Pope: "All Religions Lead to God" - Vindicated Again!

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Jay Dyer

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@joshuamkk
@joshuamkk 4 ай бұрын
With Frank’s logic there is no reason for me to become RC because Orthodoxy is just another path to reach God.
@LayRule
@LayRule 4 ай бұрын
Was just thinking this the other day speaking with a Roman Catholic. I’m interested in the EO Church and according to Vatican 2 it doesn’t matter either way.
@Theosis_and_prayer
@Theosis_and_prayer 4 ай бұрын
As a Catholic I agree this is a valid criticism.
@rosswalenciak3739
@rosswalenciak3739 4 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly, then he already said it is a sin for RCs to proselytize EOs.
@joshuamkk
@joshuamkk 4 ай бұрын
@@rosswalenciak3739 this is the supposed universal church saying not to proselytize lol give me a break
@nicksor2543
@nicksor2543 4 ай бұрын
Bro we abiously agree with the quote . The point is augustine means the on holy catholic and apostolic church in the fourth century there was not Roman catholic and orthodox there was one church and the whole thing is we are the true universal catholic church and not the papal church because as clearly jay showed in the video the papal church has apostasized and its a false church and not the church st Augustin talks about . God bless
@robithesir
@robithesir 4 ай бұрын
When your religious leader has the same pov as Oprah, it's over for you
@Astuga
@Astuga 4 ай бұрын
Modern Ecuminism started with the First Parliament of the World's Religions, during the The World's Columbian Exposition, also known as the Chicago World's Fair in Chicago 1893. It was organized by followers of the Theosoph Emanuel Swedenborg (who had close ties to the Free Masons) and actual US-Free Masons. With their growing influence on the Catholic Church (Alta Vendita) the agenda of Ecuminism also gained track. The Catholic Church is now completey subverted.
@HellenicPapist
@HellenicPapist 4 ай бұрын
You do know that most of your bishops and patriarchs teach the same thing, right? So by your standard, it’s over for you, too.
@Astuga
@Astuga 4 ай бұрын
@@HellenicPapist Appeal to authority and Appeal to False authority are both fallacies.
@robithesir
@robithesir 4 ай бұрын
@@HellenicPapist We keep saying this but you guys don't listen. Your system doesn't allow this. Our bishops can be heretics, your pope can't
@HellenicPapist
@HellenicPapist 4 ай бұрын
@@Astuga I was showing him the hypocrisy of his statement…
@GladioMaxxs
@GladioMaxxs 4 ай бұрын
There's no other God but Jesus Christ ☦️🕊️☦️🕊️☦️
@DMMreasons
@DMMreasons 4 ай бұрын
But Jesus Christ said only the Father is the True God who sent Jesus Christ .....Was Jesus lying when he said that?
@Acularis
@Acularis 4 ай бұрын
​@devicemanagementmana2434 Jesus Christ also said " I and the Father are one" sooooo
@walidhamad7192
@walidhamad7192 4 ай бұрын
@@Acularis Read the full passage He said that him and the father are one in agreement and not in divinity
@walidhamad7192
@walidhamad7192 4 ай бұрын
Christians claim monotheism but always fall into polytheism . Trinity will always be an issue to Christians . They suffered from it before ( logically) and still suffering from it now even within Christianity . The father and the son are not coequal according to the bible .
@ezekielchapter18
@ezekielchapter18 4 ай бұрын
John 10,29. My Father ,which gave them me ,is greater than all,and no man is able to pluck them out of my Fathers hand. Jesus saying the Father is greater than ALL.
@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis
@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis 4 ай бұрын
I think Pope John Paul II said this at some ecumenical event decades ago. This is not a single pope issue, this is Vatican 2.
@God1stProductions
@God1stProductions 4 ай бұрын
The Church has been inflitraded by the juews. We can see this clealry by the same fruits as Hollywood and the global elite promote. Should we leave the Church because of that or is it more importent now to stay and fight??
@dmm3124
@dmm3124 4 ай бұрын
You are correct. We need to pray for holy popes.
@markshark1613
@markshark1613 4 ай бұрын
John Paul himself kissed the Quran. The catholic church has been in apostasy for centuries
@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis
@Sir_Gugharde_Wuglis 4 ай бұрын
@@dmm3124 I just said it’s not just a pope issue, it’s Vatican 2. The whole Roman church needs to change its doctrine. Unfortunately the Roman church has been on a bad path for a long time so I don’t really expect them to change any time soon for the better. Go somewhere better.
@sipsyep9531
@sipsyep9531 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, during the Assisi gathering, John Paul II allowed the religions of the world to do their stuff in consecrated churches. This is just the result of Vatican II.
@jonathankelly2655
@jonathankelly2655 4 ай бұрын
All paths lead to his god, Satan.
@andreaskyriakopoulos2976
@andreaskyriakopoulos2976 4 ай бұрын
Accurate
@maxinedeleon4357
@maxinedeleon4357 4 ай бұрын
Except Christianity, 🙏! 👑👑👑
@DMMreasons
@DMMreasons 4 ай бұрын
How about Sam Shamoun?
@larryjake7783
@larryjake7783 4 ай бұрын
​@@DMMreasons still discerning, pray for him 🙏🏾
@DMMreasons
@DMMreasons 4 ай бұрын
@@larryjake7783 So Sam is not Christian at the moment?
@DCWoodWorking
@DCWoodWorking 4 ай бұрын
Francis is a great apologist for the true church ☦️
@Hope_Boat
@Hope_Boat 4 ай бұрын
Amen☦️
@PastaTyler
@PastaTyler 4 ай бұрын
@@DCWoodWorking LOL, amen ☦️
@waseemhermiz7565
@waseemhermiz7565 4 ай бұрын
​@voxpopuli8132 tell his ignorant behind. He thinks he made a point
@justanotherlikeyou
@justanotherlikeyou 4 ай бұрын
​@@voxpopuli8132Yes.
@sebastianjohannesen8863
@sebastianjohannesen8863 4 ай бұрын
@@voxpopuli8132 so when the RC is in communion with Nestorian churches and the eastern rite that do not confess RC teachings or dogma is that not a problem?
@kountryboy_tx
@kountryboy_tx 4 ай бұрын
And now it will take multiple Vatican and KZbin theologians to interpret the popes words and say this is not what he meant 🤡
@dmm3124
@dmm3124 4 ай бұрын
Us Roman Catholics do not need to interpret what he said. Most of us are in agreement that the pope is a heretic.
@dtphenom
@dtphenom 4 ай бұрын
Need an interpreter for an infallible interpreter.
@deepusnttf432
@deepusnttf432 4 ай бұрын
thn wat u say abt this when Pope said : Vatican City, Apr 18, 2016 Speaking at morning Mass at the Santa Marta residence, Pope Francis on Monday urged the faithful not to seek salvation through anyone but Jesus alone, because he is the only way into heaven. Why don’t you bring Solomon who committed grave sin which forbidden to a King.Neither God removed him from King Yet we have Proverbs( infallible) word of God by Solomon. What abt David when he committed adulatory and murder of Uriah? Yet we have Psalms in our Holy Bible bcz Scripture clearly says he spoke through Holy Spirit What about Peter said one did one thing when Paul has to condemn him ( Galatians 2) Yet we have letters of Peter in our Scripture ( infallible) What abt John the apostle who worshipped angles-2 Times? Yet we have his writtings as infallible What Pope done is right or wrong it’s left to each one of us to think but condemning Church or his office is wrong
@778FraxK
@778FraxK 4 ай бұрын
@@deepusnttf432 I'd say it's a contradiction, what else?
@Sanee-n1l
@Sanee-n1l 4 ай бұрын
We surely believe that our pope made a mistake however the pope is the CEO on earth but Christ is the owner of our Catholic CHURCH. REMEMBER what JESUS said, I am the vine and you are the branches, abide in me and I in you, we shall be one in love. There is only one vine, not too many vines, Jesus feeds the vine with HIS BODY AND BLOOD TO KEEP IT ALIVE. How about you protestants, your food is coming from your own pastors who make money out of you. IT is the Catholic church that had educated the whole world from east to west from ignorance, no protestant church ever contributed to the development of the world than the Catholic church. The Catholic church spread the Bible all over the world when the protestant movement was still non-existent.
@joshua-l6m
@joshua-l6m 4 ай бұрын
Roman -Catholicism- Perennialism
@P.Whitestrake
@P.Whitestrake 4 ай бұрын
Roman NWO.
@ValentinClaudiu7
@ValentinClaudiu7 4 ай бұрын
@@P.WhitestrakeLol 😂🫡
@zane01235
@zane01235 4 ай бұрын
Joshua, spot on.
@liquidh5226
@liquidh5226 4 ай бұрын
Don't understand how millions are still unable to see why RC is lost...
@luisbergantino1207
@luisbergantino1207 4 ай бұрын
We're not blind to the heresies the Pope is teaching, nor are we deaf to Jesus teaching that whomever does not eat His flesh doesn't have life in them. So, we stay in order to obey Jesus, not the errors of the Pope.
@Somtejesstudios
@Somtejesstudios 4 ай бұрын
This proves u don't know teaching of Catholic church
@BonzTrinitarian
@BonzTrinitarian 4 ай бұрын
Cause finding the truth and changing takes work. It’s much easier to sit and defend the religion you are born into than to read all these documents. Unfortunately finding truth is a responsibility the majority of people don’t want to burden. Not that I’m some super genius truth identifier or something. David Goggins of truth lol
@MasculineVitality
@MasculineVitality 4 ай бұрын
@@voxpopuli8132if the pope is a heretic and speaking heresy doesn’t that prove Catholicism false?
@Hoi4o
@Hoi4o 4 ай бұрын
@@luisbergantino1207 But according to the Roman Catholic dogma, the Pope is infallible in his teachings and theology. By saying the Pope has errors in his teaching, you are spreading heresy according to the dogma of your own church.
@abominable.7800
@abominable.7800 4 ай бұрын
open heresy im renouncing the pope and roman catholicsm. amen amen amen
@Sever3dHead
@Sever3dHead 4 ай бұрын
​@@Pat.hibuleire we have several patriarchs, so if you think that that part of the church teaches heresy go instead to other part.
@TsarOrthodoxBro_II
@TsarOrthodoxBro_II 4 ай бұрын
I went from Catholicism to Orthodoxy, the best decision of my entire life!!! The grass truly is GREENER on the other side
@Issacandjacob
@Issacandjacob 4 ай бұрын
@@robertkolinsky1286the church is the people, not Catholics.
@hxplxss1835
@hxplxss1835 4 ай бұрын
@@robertkolinsky1286 He's leaving your sect for the Church (Orthodoxy)
@deepusnttf432
@deepusnttf432 4 ай бұрын
thn wat u say abt this when Pope said : Vatican City, Apr 18, 2016 Speaking at morning Mass at the Santa Marta residence, Pope Francis on Monday urged the faithful not to seek salvation through anyone but Jesus alone, because he is the only way into heaven. Why don’t you bring Solomon who committed grave sin which forbidden to a King.Neither God removed him from King Yet we have Proverbs( infallible) word of God by Solomon. What abt David when he committed adulatory and murder of Uriah? Yet we have Psalms in our Holy Bible bcz Scripture clearly says he spoke through Holy Spirit What about Peter said one did one thing when Paul has to condemn him ( Galatians 2) Yet we have letters of Peter in our Scripture ( infallible) What abt John the apostle who worshipped angles-2 Times? Yet we have his writtings as infallible What Pope done is right or wrong it’s left to each one of us to think but condemning Church or his office is wrong
@brettk1517
@brettk1517 4 ай бұрын
bUt iT waSN’t eX CaTHedRa
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 4 ай бұрын
doesn’t matter
@brettk1517
@brettk1517 4 ай бұрын
@@JayDyer I know, but this will be their response.
@Hope_Boat
@Hope_Boat 4 ай бұрын
Already seen that comment a few times. As if the damage is lower if he spreads heresy on a casual tone...
@BroadwayRonMexico
@BroadwayRonMexico 4 ай бұрын
@@voxpopuli8132 However, Pope Honorius does torpedo the dogmas of Vatican I
@Roman_ROCMP
@Roman_ROCMP 4 ай бұрын
@@voxpopuli8132 doesn’t that falsify the whole system of papism, though? You’re basically saying that your “pope” is “indefectible until he defects” or “infallible until he makes a mistake” - why don’t you see that as an obvious contradiction?
@martymcfly4464
@martymcfly4464 4 ай бұрын
i cannot believe i was RC for so long. My goodness...
@Roman_ROCMP
@Roman_ROCMP 4 ай бұрын
@@robertkolinsky1286 this is crazy, a false hope, and nothing but purely demonic speculation. «Do not put your trust in princes, Nor in a son of man, in whom there is no help. His spirit departs, he returns to his earth; In that very day his plans perish.» (Ps.145:3-4)
@Roman_ROCMP
@Roman_ROCMP 4 ай бұрын
@@voxpopuli8132 “canon 1404” of your false sect refutes you.
@martymcfly4464
@martymcfly4464 4 ай бұрын
@robertkolinsky1286 you put mystical visions over your own dogma. Makes sense. Trads know more about Fatima and apparition them they do about Scripture and their own dogmatic councils
@Deathbytroll
@Deathbytroll 4 ай бұрын
@@robertkolinsky1286 your own canons and councils tell you what to believe and by that judgement you are in the wrong. Personal interpretation has nothing to do with it
@deepusnttf432
@deepusnttf432 4 ай бұрын
thn wat u say abt this when Pope said : Vatican City, Apr 18, 2016 Speaking at morning Mass at the Santa Marta residence, Pope Francis on Monday urged the faithful not to seek salvation through anyone but Jesus alone, because he is the only way into heaven. Why don’t you bring Solomon who committed grave sin which forbidden to a King.Neither God removed him from King Yet we have Proverbs( infallible) word of God by Solomon. What abt David when he committed adulatory and murder of Uriah? Yet we have Psalms in our Holy Bible bcz Scripture clearly says he spoke through Holy Spirit What about Peter said one did one thing when Paul has to condemn him ( Galatians 2) Yet we have letters of Peter in our Scripture ( infallible) What abt John the apostle who worshipped angles-2 Times? Yet we have his writtings as infallible What Pope done is right or wrong it’s left to each one of us to think but condemning Church or his office is wrong
@wilder11
@wilder11 2 ай бұрын
That news story of the Pope praying in a Mosque made me sick. Love for our enemies is one thing. BECOMING our enemies is another.
@Nick-ij5nt
@Nick-ij5nt 4 ай бұрын
If all paths lead to God then why should I become a Catholic?
@channeljan8529
@channeljan8529 4 ай бұрын
Because Catholicism, as Bishop Barron put it, has the fullness of the truth whereas the other religions don't. Even though the purpose and intention of these other religions the Pope mentions are to put people on a path to reach God, they don't contain the fullness of truth the Church has in doing so. So which one will you choose?
@Nick-ij5nt
@Nick-ij5nt 4 ай бұрын
@@channeljan8529 How does a path that doesn't have the full truth of God lead me to God? Why do I need the full truth if the half truth can still get me into heaven?
@cirqueyeagerist5641
@cirqueyeagerist5641 4 ай бұрын
Choose a path according to your own preference . Thats why i side more with hinduism rather than abrahamic cults which are based upon one sole figure (jesus and mohammad) . Basically they are organised religions while Bhudhism and Hinduism are not . And also i like its meaning of life rather than following a book . Know thyself and love and let live , complete your dharma (duty (loose translation)) to break free from the cycle of karma and birth and rebirth , by defeating hate , lust , greed etc .
@cirqueyeagerist5641
@cirqueyeagerist5641 4 ай бұрын
@@Nick-ij5nt Choose a path according to your own preference . Thats why i side more with hinduism rather than abrahamic cults which are based upon one sole figure (jesus and mohammad) . Basically they are organised religions while Bhudhism and Hinduism are not . And also i like its meaning of life rather than following a book . Know thyself and love and let live , complete your dharma (duty (loose translation)) to break free from the cycle of karma and birth and rebirth , by defeating hate , lust , greed etc .
@Nick-ij5nt
@Nick-ij5nt 4 ай бұрын
@@cirqueyeagerist5641 You are extremely deceived. None of what you said is correct. No, you should not follow your preferences, you should follow the truth.
@allistersmith1967
@allistersmith1967 2 ай бұрын
Catholics after watching this video: "BBUTTTT IITTT WASSSNNN'TTTT EEEXXXX- CCAAATTTHHHEDDDDRRRAAA"!!! 🤣🤣
@joeyn985
@joeyn985 4 ай бұрын
The catholic cope on this is.....sad. they're all just like "he's just a man, he's fallible, he wasn't speaking ex cathedra" - but like.......ok? Shouldn't all the Catholic Bishops be rebuking him and making him retract his statement if it was false? Why are they all ok with it?
@stephenlee1664
@stephenlee1664 4 ай бұрын
They're all afraid of being removed from their position like Bishop Strickland.
@Hoi4o
@Hoi4o 4 ай бұрын
@@stephenlee1664 Exactly, the Papacy today is a tyrannical despotic hierarchy, nothing to do with the actual Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ.
@codyraugh6599
@codyraugh6599 4 ай бұрын
​@@stephenlee1664but isn't Christ more important than positions of power? What are these Pharisees doing? Are they tearing their garments and denouncing the man that says "I am the way"? Should they be shouting "Crucify him" to prove their devotion to God by taking that vile Christ and slaying him for daring to claim that no man shall reach the father except through him? Why is it that those who bravely pronounced the name of Christ even upon death and torture and ridicule always seem to be absent from the halls of the Vatican? What has happened to the men and women who carried Christ's teachings shouting their praise even as the Romans cut them open and let loose the lions? Where have the warriors fighting in the name of God to protect others disappeared to? Why does it seem that only the priest who hired muggers to murder the repentant knight who had renounced the further use of the sword after their service seem to be the only ones who remain within the Church of Rome?
@joeyn985
@joeyn985 4 ай бұрын
@@stephenlee1664 sure. But then how can the catholic bros claim the church can't be corrupted if bishops are afraid to rebuke the Pope when he says anti-biblical stuff? That's the issue
@sipsyep9531
@sipsyep9531 4 ай бұрын
Don't forget the one where they claim that his words are being twisted by the media.
@abiel_650
@abiel_650 4 ай бұрын
I hope Sam Shamoun comes home after this.☦️
@JC.AEP2
@JC.AEP2 4 ай бұрын
fr
@Willow115.34
@Willow115.34 4 ай бұрын
Is he Catholic or undecided?
@abiel_650
@abiel_650 4 ай бұрын
@@Willow115.34 RC
@ElectricBluJay
@ElectricBluJay 4 ай бұрын
@@Willow115.34He converted to Roman Catholicism like 2-3 years ago I think?
@ElectricBluJay
@ElectricBluJay 4 ай бұрын
@@voxpopuli8132 It would appear any who believe there is a supernatural creator are home - and home free.
@taitasutomoushimasu
@taitasutomoushimasu 4 ай бұрын
The papacy has fallen, billions must convert.
@unepicgamer4260
@unepicgamer4260 4 ай бұрын
Kek
@dmm3124
@dmm3124 4 ай бұрын
Why? He is 87 years old and us Roman Catholics will get a new pope.
@scottmcley5111
@scottmcley5111 4 ай бұрын
​@@dmm3124 Because the trend of the next guy being better when? All it does is acquiesce to the debauched world around it.
@matiasluukkanen7718
@matiasluukkanen7718 4 ай бұрын
Papacy fell since the beginning. It is entirely anti-christian to even have a pope in the begin with.
@Deathbytroll
@Deathbytroll 4 ай бұрын
@Berawan-o1k no because the orthodox system isn’t built upon patriarchal infallibility. Patriarchs can fall into heresy and it doesn’t disprove the Orthodox system. If the Pope teaches heresy then it shatters the Roman Catholic system, that’s it, gg no redos. And before this point is made it’s not “bad popes don’t disprove the papacy” no a bad Pope does not but a heretical or an apostate Pope does and THAT is what’s being argued not that he’s merely bad.
@bigol9223
@bigol9223 4 ай бұрын
Roman Catholics: stop being a heckin heretic and join the one true church! The Pope: man who even cares? Everybody just have fun and praise Hanuman
@SimoSIPI
@SimoSIPI 4 ай бұрын
​@@Pat.hibuleireWe do not Believe that the Patriarch of Constantinople is infallible.
@cirqueyeagerist5641
@cirqueyeagerist5641 4 ай бұрын
Fr who cares , imagine claiming ; “If you have the same faith as that of mine , you for sure will be granted a ticket in heaven 😂” while Hanuman from Hinduism, Rather says that you will be judged by your actions and not by your faith . 😂 The concept of karma also fixes the problem of evil (in my view) as (according to my knowledge) if you hurt a animal or a being instead of being in hell for “eternity” cause you didnt believed in a guy people were asking you to you will be punished by being reincarnated as a species thats not human . Thats why a birth of a human is considered so precious , as its the only way you can break free from cycle of birth and death by knowing yourself and realising the God within .
@cirqueyeagerist5641
@cirqueyeagerist5641 4 ай бұрын
Fr who cares , imagine claiming ; “If you have the same faith as that of mine , you for sure will be granted a ticket in heaven 😂” while Hanuman from Hinduism, Rather says that you will be judged by your actions and not by your faith . 😂 The concept of karma also fixes the problem of evil (in my view) as (according to my knowledge) if you hurt a animal or a being instead of being in hell for “eternity” cause you didnt believed in a guy people were asking you to you will be punished by being reincarnated as a species thats not human . Thats why a birth of a human is considered so precious , as its the only way you can break free from cycle of birth and death by knowing yourself and realising the God within . Sorry but for me this seems more logical than “Following a book”
@bigol9223
@bigol9223 4 ай бұрын
@@cirqueyeagerist5641 is that why hanuman is a monkey
@Sermonator9000
@Sermonator9000 4 ай бұрын
​@@cirqueyeagerist5641To be honest your system sounds like an inescapable hell. First you say youre judged by your actions, rather then faith, but then say its about knowing yourself and realizing the God within. Wouldnt that require the views you hold, meaning your religious beliefs play a big part of it? Also, if i have God inside of me, or if I'm a part of God, then how come I'm being punished then?
@TheLikesofMeh
@TheLikesofMeh 2 ай бұрын
St John of Damascus on Islam "There are many other extraordinary and quite ridiculous things in this book which he boasts was sent down to him from God. But when we ask: ‘And who is there to testify that God gave him the book? And which of the prophets foretold that such a prophet would rise up?’-they are at a loss. And we remark that Moses received the Law on Mount Sinai, with God appearing in the sight of all the people in cloud, and fire, and darkness, and storm. And we say that all the Prophets from Moses on down foretold the coming of Christ and how Christ God (and incarnate Son of God) was to come and to be crucified and die and rise again, and how He was to be the judge of the living and dead. Then, when we say: ‘How is it that this prophet of yours did not come in the same way, with others bearing witness to him? "
@Chance_Rice
@Chance_Rice 4 ай бұрын
a Catholic just tried the oldest trick in the book on me, he said he wasn't speaking infallibility so it doesn't matter
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 4 ай бұрын
The last refuge for Roman Catholics is that perpetually cited dead end: It doesn't matter what "official status" Pope Francis' statement has, because Vatican 1 teaches the Bishop of Rome cannot be a heretic, defect or teach theological error in faith and morals. Heresy and apostasy in Papal theology are not merely errors or sins, but sins that ipso facto remove one from the Mystical Body. Thus, the "status" of any statement is irrelevant given the supposed Vatican 1 "protection from error," which surely protects against apostasy and heresy! If the pope can defect, then Vatican 1 is false and indefectibility is false. But to illustrate the key point - what this shows is that Roman Catholic dogma itself contradicts, since Pope Francis statement that all religions are "paths" to "god" is exactly what Vatican 2's Nostra Aetate and Lumen Gentium say.
@servusvero
@servusvero 4 ай бұрын
@@JayDyer jay when u talk about the different paths in a worldview, are u referring to the pressupositions and basic foundational metaphysical concept like truth has to be real or illusory? same with knowledge, reason, logic, morals, etc etc? am i on the right path here or am i off base? this question has been on my mind for a while and i think im on the right path but im unsure i cant get an answer
@Chance_Rice
@Chance_Rice 4 ай бұрын
@jaydyer I was also just told pretty much that the pope is only right when he is right and when he is wrong he is wrong, but if he is the vicar of Christ who are we to judge what is right or wrong
@TehNubblet
@TehNubblet 4 ай бұрын
​@@Chance_Rice That reminds me of the Muslims claim that the Bible is corrupt except the parts we agree with 😂
@Chance_Rice
@Chance_Rice 4 ай бұрын
@TehNubblet fr that's literally what this catholic did with the pope
@bjjjools4334
@bjjjools4334 4 ай бұрын
Orthodoxy looking really appealing as usual
@Tdizzle7775
@Tdizzle7775 4 ай бұрын
Not sure how Sam Shamoun can annihilate Muslims but fails to see how the RC is non scriptural and universalist now
@Desertfox-o2x
@Desertfox-o2x 4 ай бұрын
He said today, "we dont follow a pope or a patriarch, we follow jesus Christ and every catholic will tell you that" as if to be catholic is to go with the majority opinion and not the papacy lol.
@Desertfox-o2x
@Desertfox-o2x 4 ай бұрын
@Rapturo_to_YESHUA look into Orthodox apologetics. This relativism doesn't work, there can only be one Church according to scripture. Jay has plenty of streams on this topic you can find.
@aquavitae3824
@aquavitae3824 4 ай бұрын
​@@Harpazo_to_Yeshua that is what is in question.
@Desertfox-o2x
@Desertfox-o2x 4 ай бұрын
@Rapturo_to_YESHUA the only people "born of the spirit" are those in the Orthodox Church. Not to say you haven't had genuine Grace given to you, but only those baptized into the Church have been given the Holy Spirit (acts 2:38) how about this. Relativism doesn't work because position A posits both position A and B are equally valid, position B says only position B is valid and position A is wrong, making position A invalid because it says something that contradicts it is equally valid. You can't interpret scripture without the Church that put together the scripture in history, go watch jays debate with pastor p.
@TommyNitro
@TommyNitro 4 ай бұрын
@@Desertfox-o2x There can only be one church....and it is not a specific denomination but it is the entire body of believers. It is those who by grace have place their faith which comes from God in the Lord Jesus alone for salvation.
@jonathannkalpha7606
@jonathannkalpha7606 4 ай бұрын
I was a protestant after doing research I wanted to become an Eastern Orthodox Christain I've contacted my local parish but the thing is that there where many Roman Catholics online trying to convince me that I should join Roman Catholicism but after this statement from the Pope I think I should stay being a Eastern Orthodox☦️❤
@praveendsouze
@praveendsouze 4 ай бұрын
RC & Orthodox, they both celebrate Eucharist, and these two are the true churches.
@jonathannkalpha7606
@jonathannkalpha7606 4 ай бұрын
@@praveendsouze Amin I'm sorry but I wasn't here to bash Roman Catholics
@MillionthUsername
@MillionthUsername 4 ай бұрын
Bergoglio's false statements are a trial, but his bad behavior does not nullify the papacy anymore than Judas's bad behavior nullified the office of apostle.
@jonathannkalpha7606
@jonathannkalpha7606 4 ай бұрын
@@MillionthUsername woah Judas betrayed Jesus because of greed and a misguided zeel plus I never said I became a Orthodox because of Jay Dyer or Roman Catholicism was refuted by Jay Dyer. Sam Shamoun also is a Roman Catholic and he gets aggressive when debating muslims by calling them cows
@MillionthUsername
@MillionthUsername 4 ай бұрын
@@jonathannkalpha7606 I think you missed what I said: "Bergoglio's false statements are a trial, but his bad behavior does not nullify the papacy anymore than Judas's bad behavior nullified the office of apostle." It's a simple point. I'm just saying that bad behavior doesn't nullify truth. I said this because you said it was his false statement that affected your decision somehow. I'm merely making the point that it shouldn't affect you in that way because it doesn't change any truth. It's just bad behavior. Yes, it's a trial. Yes, it's a scandal. Yes, it disturbs us. But it's not any sort of argument against the truth.
@MrFrankie2005
@MrFrankie2005 4 ай бұрын
I am protestant and when pope says "all religions lead to salvation", i see him as he is laughing at the blood of holy Martyrs of the church
@FirstOrthodoxy
@FirstOrthodoxy 4 ай бұрын
"You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe-and shudder."
@gamertag7676
@gamertag7676 2 ай бұрын
Francis does a great job in promoting the Eastern Orthodox Church, god bless ☦️
@fruitfulvine222
@fruitfulvine222 4 ай бұрын
Michael Lofton is going to pull a muscle doing backflips to spin this.
@Peter-en6bc
@Peter-en6bc 4 ай бұрын
Glory to God I left Roman Catholicism for Orthodoxy 8 years ago. For all the RC’s that say “Orthodoxy is in the same boat” bc we have problematic bishops like Bartholomew and Elpidohphoros completely miss the point that they are not infallible nor do they have any authority outside their jurisdiction. Having said that I wish the bishops would get rid of Elpidohphoros in America lol
@tony1685
@tony1685 4 ай бұрын
Exodus 20:8-11 -- both are a day late, the Lord's day is still and forever will be the 7th day Sabbath. for Christianity anyhow, Sir.
@Peter-en6bc
@Peter-en6bc 4 ай бұрын
@@tony1685 No clue what you’re saying but I’m guessing it’s some goofy Protestant BS
@caseycardenas1668
@caseycardenas1668 4 ай бұрын
​@@Peter-en6bcRC's can't help but thrust their paradigm onto everyone else and then they act confused when we deny that paradigm.
@tony1685
@tony1685 4 ай бұрын
@@Peter-en6bc of course you have no idea -- it's because you're not Biblically literate, Sir. 'BS' -- such humility!
@nV_ICXC_NIKA
@nV_ICXC_NIKA 4 ай бұрын
Your commentaries are edifying and your timely responses to happenings are appreciated.
@lucapennazzi
@lucapennazzi 4 ай бұрын
Excellent Jay as per usual.
@nicholas4727
@nicholas4727 Ай бұрын
I grew up in roman catholicism. Im starting to think you are right but I'm not one hundred percent understanding everything yet.
@XiHamORTHOCN
@XiHamORTHOCN 4 ай бұрын
I left the Roman sect and entered Orthodoxy years ago. Zero regrets. Absolutely the greatest thing in my life, the center of my life, and the truth itself. So many people profess to be Christians yet know basically nothing of what Christianity is. Prayer, fasting, almsgiving, and resting in the Triune God. Nothing more beautiful!
@deepusnttf432
@deepusnttf432 4 ай бұрын
Do you need Orthodox Bishops doing same ? There are multiple times it’s done. Don’t judge based on it.
@XiHamORTHOCN
@XiHamORTHOCN 4 ай бұрын
@@deepusnttf432 Any sect that makes a dogmatic claim that their wicked leader is an indefectible vicar of God, then has their leader defect based on the sect's own standards, is far from God and laughably false. Orthodoxy doesn't make those blasphemous claims in the first place, so there is no equivalence. This isn't complicated, and has been iterated many thousands of times in print and online, for centuries, so why do papists keep bringing it up? Of course, I know why: it is psychological, they are coping. Visit an Orthodox church and experience true Christianity!
@Astuga
@Astuga 4 ай бұрын
There are many legit Christians, but only one legit Church - Orthodoxy.
@MillionthUsername
@MillionthUsername 4 ай бұрын
The Church is not a sect. The Church was established by Jesus Christ. What does 'Orthodoxy' teach about bearing false witness? I'm pretty sure we know about prayer, fasting, and almsgiving. When you were supposedly a Catholic, did you ever crack open a Bible or a catechism or any other book?
@XiHamORTHOCN
@XiHamORTHOCN 4 ай бұрын
@@MillionthUsername Papism is a sect. The church is Orthodoxy. None of this is false witness. I was educated in Rome and had a career in philosophy. Walked away from it. You'd be surprised how few people, even in trad circles, believe in God. And no, the papist spiritual life is nothing like the Orthodox spiritual life. Even uniates have marked differences on the ground, whether in areas they are dominant or minority. Please visit an Orthodox church! Life is too important to toss away. There is healing in Christ. ☦️
@johnchrysostomon6284
@johnchrysostomon6284 3 ай бұрын
Only a short time ago such ecumenism was called ‘confusion’ and condemned in Catholic circles as a great error Bishop Marcel Lefebvre specifically refers to accommodations with Islam See Lefebvre, M., (1986) An Open Letter to Confused Catholics (Fowler Wright Books; Leominister, England), p78ff
@cleanerfloors
@cleanerfloors 20 күн бұрын
It's really interesting how the sedevacantists have been trying to hold on to that "hiatus"
@yayorandel6048
@yayorandel6048 4 ай бұрын
Islam is in no way Abrahamic.
@joseph-f4u7h
@joseph-f4u7h 4 ай бұрын
Funnily enough this has given me more conviction than ever. It’s a shame whats been done to the Catholic Church
@ppac300
@ppac300 4 ай бұрын
1 CORINTHIANS 10:20 But I say that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils and not to God; and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
@kahnlives
@kahnlives 4 ай бұрын
He is a disgrace to the chair of St Pete, most Catholics will gladly donate Francis to other denominations, please 😵🫨
@deepusnttf432
@deepusnttf432 4 ай бұрын
thn wat u say abt this when Pope said : Vatican City, Apr 18, 2016 Speaking at morning Mass at the Santa Marta residence, Pope Francis on Monday urged the faithful not to seek salvation through anyone but Jesus alone, because he is the only way into heaven. Why don’t you bring Solomon who committed grave sin which forbidden to a King.Neither God removed him from King Yet we have Proverbs( infallible) word of God by Solomon. What abt David when he committed adulatory and murder of Uriah? Yet we have Psalms in our Holy Bible bcz Scripture clearly says he spoke through Holy Spirit What about Peter said one did one thing when Paul has to condemn him ( Galatians 2) Yet we have letters of Peter in our Scripture ( infallible) What abt John the apostle who worshipped angles-2 Times? Yet we have his writtings as infallible What Pope done is right or wrong it’s left to each one of us to think but condemning Church or his office is wrong
@danib712
@danib712 4 ай бұрын
I wonder what excuse voice of reason has this time for his pope
@HeraldKros
@HeraldKros 4 ай бұрын
Come on Catholics, step in the Orthodox Church now. The games are over
@matiasluukkanen7718
@matiasluukkanen7718 4 ай бұрын
No, come to Jesus Christ, not to Church. Church is merely a vessel. Jesus is the substance.
@deepusnttf432
@deepusnttf432 4 ай бұрын
There are multiple times orthodox bishops done similar what you abt that ?
@HeraldKros
@HeraldKros 4 ай бұрын
@@matiasluukkanen7718 What does Jesus say in this verse?: "but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth." 1. Timothy 3:15 Doesn't it say, that the truth is only found in the church?
@HeraldKros
@HeraldKros 4 ай бұрын
@@deepusnttf432 Orthodox bishops do not claim to be, nor are they infallible. The roman catholic pope claims and is infallible under roman catholic dogma. We don't have such problems here.
@deepusnttf432
@deepusnttf432 4 ай бұрын
@HeraldKros Who said Pope is infallible at all the times he speaks? thn wat u say abt this when Pope said : Vatican City, Apr 18, 2016 Speaking at morning Mass at the Santa Marta residence, Pope Francis on Monday urged the faithful not to seek salvation through anyone but Jesus alone, because he is the only way into heaven. Why don’t you bring Solomon who committed grave sin which forbidden to a King.Neither God removed him from King Yet we have Proverbs( infallible) word of God by Solomon. What abt David when he committed adultery and murder of Uriah? Yet we have Psalms in our Holy Bible bcz Scripture clearly says he spoke through Holy Spirit(infallible) What about Peter said one did one thing when Paul has to condemn him ( Galatians 2) Yet we have letters of Peter in our Scripture ( infallible) What abt John the apostle who worshipped angles-2 Times? Yet we have his writtings as infallible What Pope done is right or wrong it’s left to each one of us to think but condemning Church or his office is wrong.
@mudaaa1015
@mudaaa1015 4 ай бұрын
So gates of hell prevailed V2 and in 2024 via pope francis? Catholics needs to hear this. Its not going well for caths
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 4 ай бұрын
@@voxpopuli8132 No because the gates of hades prevailing against the Church has nothing to do with the status of one bishop…
@dmm3124
@dmm3124 4 ай бұрын
You people need to understand that the pope is not the leader of the Roman Catholic Church. Our leader is Jesus Christ, the founder of the One, True, Holy, and Apostolic Church. It is not Protestantism, Islam, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, etc, or whatever else Jorge Bergolio stated.
@mudaaa1015
@mudaaa1015 4 ай бұрын
@@dmm3124 yes that's why your papal infalibility is false. The synods of bishop i.e the church is infallible not a single bishop. Every man is fallible including the pope right now. That's why many heretical doctrines arises from the west including papal infalibility. Thus you have V2 and now pope clearly saying the most absurd thing reaffirming V2 doctrine
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 4 ай бұрын
@@dmm3124 He was asking if the gates of hell prevailed because of Honorius. I don’t see the comment anymore
@deepusnttf432
@deepusnttf432 4 ай бұрын
thn wat u say abt this when Pope said : Vatican City, Apr 18, 2016 Speaking at morning Mass at the Santa Marta residence, Pope Francis on Monday urged the faithful not to seek salvation through anyone but Jesus alone, because he is the only way into heaven. Why don’t you bring Solomon who committed grave sin which forbidden to a King.Neither God removed him from King Yet we have Proverbs( infallible) word of God by Solomon. What abt David when he committed adulatory and murder of Uriah? Yet we have Psalms in our Holy Bible bcz Scripture clearly says he spoke through Holy Spirit What about Peter said one did one thing when Paul has to condemn him ( Galatians 2) Yet we have letters of Peter in our Scripture ( infallible) What abt John the apostle who worshipped angles-2 Times? Yet we have his writtings as infallible What Pope done is right or wrong it’s left to each one of us to think but condemning Church or his office is wrong
@cryptomando5473
@cryptomando5473 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for all your doing Jay
@namasi7070
@namasi7070 4 ай бұрын
Many people here giving thanks for leaving or joining the RCC or the same for Orthodox and Protestant. Be reminded it is Jesus who died for your sins and sent the Holy Spirit to indwell you when you place your faith/trust in Him that you might live lives that glorify God the Father. Beyond that, "Read your bible pray everyday and you will grow" is a sunday school song that has powerful advice. I saw videos of many people coming to Christ in places like Iran and China after seeing visions. They are not seeing visions of Orthodox, RC or Protestant Leaders or Institutions but Christ. Jesus said "If I be lifted up I will draw all men unto me". God bless us all.
@gavtopia7354
@gavtopia7354 4 ай бұрын
I beg to Differ Pope from the 10 commandments : “Thou shalt have no other gods before me."
@dolphinitely_bro3944
@dolphinitely_bro3944 4 ай бұрын
Jay you are one of the influences on what led me to Holy Orthodoxy
@MisterKilogram
@MisterKilogram 4 ай бұрын
Pope Francis is a strong candidate for the false prophet spoke of in Revelation. He's also a Jesuit. "The Jesuits have left an indelible mark on history. Their influence and havoc has ranged from communist indigenous colonies in Paraguay to syncretism in India, civil war in China and Germany, genocide in Bohemia, disastrous war with Muslims in Portugal, stagnation in Spain, attempted coup in England, and even an imposter tsar in Russia. They have been tied to collaboration with fascists in Europe and assassination of heads of state, including President Abraham Lincoln in the US" (Source: Stuart Quint, Berean Beacon).
@gilgamesh7652
@gilgamesh7652 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, but revelations already happend in the first centuries
@deepusnttf432
@deepusnttf432 4 ай бұрын
thn wat u say abt this when Pope said : Vatican City, Apr 18, 2016 Speaking at morning Mass at the Santa Marta residence, Pope Francis on Monday urged the faithful not to seek salvation through anyone but Jesus alone, because he is the only way into heaven. Why don’t you bring Solomon who committed grave sin which forbidden to a King.Neither God removed him from King Yet we have Proverbs( infallible) word of God by Solomon. What abt David when he committed adulatory and murder of Uriah? Yet we have Psalms in our Holy Bible bcz Scripture clearly says he spoke through Holy Spirit What about Peter said one did one thing when Paul has to condemn him ( Galatians 2) Yet we have letters of Peter in our Scripture ( infallible) What abt John the apostle who worshipped angles-2 Times? Yet we have his writtings as infallible What Pope done is right or wrong it’s left to each one of us to think but condemning Church or his office is wrong
@gingeralex4009
@gingeralex4009 4 ай бұрын
I was reading Bishop Barron's book on the OT today and he denies that the theophony on Mount Sinai should be read literally while quoting the exact text where it describes God's appearance *in detail*. I like Bishop Barron a lot but this is something that an Orthodox priest would never do
@PastaTyler
@PastaTyler 4 ай бұрын
Saw this unfold on Twitter in real time, another insane ecumenism L for the pope
@blueskittel8980
@blueskittel8980 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your work! Literally life saving
@purple5744
@purple5744 4 ай бұрын
The question is which God?
@Chance_Rice
@Chance_Rice 4 ай бұрын
RIP the Roman See, is this the end of Rome?
@Chance_Rice
@Chance_Rice 4 ай бұрын
@voxpopuli8132 the world was also completely different to how it is now
@countryboyred
@countryboyred 4 ай бұрын
@@voxpopuli8132that was before Vatican 1 dogmatically declared that the Pope can not be a heretic. You’ve had several heretic Popes since then. Therefore Vatican 1 is false. Therefore Roman Catholicism is false.
@deepusnttf432
@deepusnttf432 4 ай бұрын
thn wat u say abt this when Pope said : Vatican City, Apr 18, 2016 Speaking at morning Mass at the Santa Marta residence, Pope Francis on Monday urged the faithful not to seek salvation through anyone but Jesus alone, because he is the only way into heaven. Why don’t you bring Solomon who committed grave sin which forbidden to a King.Neither God removed him from King Yet we have Proverbs( infallible) word of God by Solomon. What abt David when he committed adulatory and murder of Uriah? Yet we have Psalms in our Holy Bible bcz Scripture clearly says he spoke through Holy Spirit What about Peter said one did one thing when Paul has to condemn him ( Galatians 2) Yet we have letters of Peter in our Scripture ( infallible) What abt John the apostle who worshipped angles-2 Times? Yet we have his writtings as infallible What Pope done is right or wrong it’s left to each one of us to think but condemning Church or his office is wrong
@cac9926
@cac9926 4 ай бұрын
@@deepusnttf432 My brother that's missing the point entirely. It's the fact that it's official DOGMA that the pope can not make an error in faith or morals, and temporal authority. So do you think what he said goes against that literal dogma that states you can't be saved without submitting to Rome's authority and partaking in communion ? If so, then the laws that make up his office are false... Also, our Lord states “Very truly I tell you, *unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.* Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day." Clearly stating if you are not partaking of my flesh you have NO life in you. How does that at all corallite with "All religions are paths to God"
@RobMikael
@RobMikael 4 ай бұрын
I speak Italian 🇮🇹 I watched the video the Pope said exactly that 😅
@johncassles7481
@johncassles7481 3 ай бұрын
Is it just me or does pope Francis look like Elmer Fudd?
@AshOzerLemon
@AshOzerLemon 4 ай бұрын
I really hope this brings a bunch of new converts to Orthodoxy! I pray for this every night! God bless and save us all ☦🕊🫂
@AndonisG2G
@AndonisG2G 4 ай бұрын
thanks Jay for these videos. going over the catholic documents really help, and I also found Luigi's response to Voice over reason, what an obliteration lol. God bless!
@avakruse4083
@avakruse4083 3 ай бұрын
Jay you have helped me a lot come back to Orthodoxy, I was an inquirer to catholicism for a while but your videos help me a lot ❤☦️🥹
@danielandrus2637
@danielandrus2637 4 ай бұрын
I'm making my comment, to be fair, before listening to the clip. However, I have recently heard this open interpretation of religion from my stepmother and father. I told her, my father is Catholic raised Mormon, that this is a very Mormon view and the visceral reaction was anger/disgust.
@dolyharianto
@dolyharianto 4 ай бұрын
It kinda feels weird seeing all the chess pieces are positioning themselves, moved by invisible hands behind the curtains. This is ensuring that the fragile unholy alliance between the West and East to revive the ancient Roman Imperium (Rome and Istanbul/Clay and Iron) will be realized in the near future. Very near future.
@Procopius464
@Procopius464 4 ай бұрын
The errors of the Papacy are a feature, not a bug.
@johnchrysostomon6284
@johnchrysostomon6284 3 ай бұрын
The pope is now a Toaist saying many spokes share the same hub
@endorphinrush2867
@endorphinrush2867 4 ай бұрын
The Catholic Church recognizes the good in other religious traditions and believes that the Catholic Church has been entrusted with the fullness of faith and represents in the closest manner the authentic teaching of Jesus Christ as handed down to us from the Apostles.
@matiasluukkanen7718
@matiasluukkanen7718 4 ай бұрын
Well, Pope Francis and office of papacy itself proves this view inherently wrong and hypocritical.
@Deathbytroll
@Deathbytroll 4 ай бұрын
That’s not what the Pope said so try again
@LukeAmos-j9m
@LukeAmos-j9m 4 ай бұрын
good Job Jay, The easiest to understand argument is the strongest! anyone who excepts this is coping hard
@littlefishbigmountain
@littlefishbigmountain 4 ай бұрын
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is monotheistic
@gamex3067
@gamex3067 4 ай бұрын
I thank God everyday for bringing me to Orthodoxy, the journey wasn't easy but its rewarding
@antoniodeeb
@antoniodeeb 3 ай бұрын
☦️☦️☦️🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Harith-le5iq
@Harith-le5iq 4 ай бұрын
Great as always Jay
@R_t_o_b_y
@R_t_o_b_y 4 ай бұрын
Francis is the greatest apologist for the Orthodox Church
@ScreamingReel500
@ScreamingReel500 4 ай бұрын
"For a person is not to be called a heretic as soon as he shall have offended in matters of faith; but he is a heretic who, having disregarded the authority of the Church, maintains impious opinions with pertinacity." Catechism of the Counsel of Trent. Article IX.
@dearjohn445
@dearjohn445 4 ай бұрын
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.
@Bluets023
@Bluets023 4 ай бұрын
When a manager sit on a golden trône when millions are dying each year , especially the smallest of God children , morality has completely left the leadership circle .
@pete6300
@pete6300 4 ай бұрын
I cannot understand how people can overlook the massive problems that have come from the papacy. No doubt ill get some catholics mindlessly repeating the church script just like Muslims.
@EasternChristian1988
@EasternChristian1988 14 сағат бұрын
It's getting harder and harder to stay Catholic.
@evanbrooks8737
@evanbrooks8737 4 ай бұрын
I mean, all paths do lead to God… for judgement…
@joefuentes2977
@joefuentes2977 4 ай бұрын
Yeah something tells me a lot of people think that they're not gonna be judged because they have a magical get out jail free card... Unfortunately Jesus himself said quite the opposite.
@lifestylemedicinals8692
@lifestylemedicinals8692 4 ай бұрын
Sounds to me like the Pope is saying one can spiritually roam and there’s no real need to submit to Rome 🤔
@ketogenic_ron
@ketogenic_ron 4 ай бұрын
Sam Shamoun has come out swinging using the same measure of judgment against the Orthodox, are you able to respond to what is happening with the Orthodox Church
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 4 ай бұрын
It’s not the same measure of judgment when it’s a different ecclesiology
@ketogenic_ron
@ketogenic_ron 4 ай бұрын
​@@JayDyercan you at least address the issue? I'm a Protestant that is in the process of converting to Orthodoxy, and it's concerning for me to hear these claims that were made about the Orthodox Church.
@MandyWyrd
@MandyWyrd 4 ай бұрын
"Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6
@TheActualCorrectOpinion
@TheActualCorrectOpinion 4 ай бұрын
erm, what the tuah!?
@IgnaceLoyola
@IgnaceLoyola 4 ай бұрын
Freemasons and Jesuits are taught mysticism which often turns gnostic and ends up into buddhism. This is the same for every major religion mystics, the exact same system and conclusions.
@editlife41
@editlife41 4 ай бұрын
wrong regions could lead you to hell.
@stevesepka2542
@stevesepka2542 4 ай бұрын
Paul VI said in an audience: “Given the Council's pastoral character, it avoided pronouncing, in an extraordinary manner, dogmas endowed with the note of infallibility.” Vatican II is not a dogmatic council.
@Roman_ROCMP
@Roman_ROCMP 4 ай бұрын
It still teaches blasphemous heresies, though. And the later “popes” only prove this fact by acting in accordance with masonic satanism proclaimed by V2. The whole system of papism is invalidated by the fact that those proclaimed to be supposedly “infallible” and “indefectible” in faith and morals, in reality, obviously erred and defected from Christianity.
@EzeBall1710
@EzeBall1710 4 ай бұрын
@@Roman_ROCMP its still not dogmatic tho
@Roman_ROCMP
@Roman_ROCMP 4 ай бұрын
@@EzeBall1710why does it matter?
@2anthranilicacid
@2anthranilicacid 4 ай бұрын
Catholics also need to submit to the ordinary magisterium, see Vatican I.
@tenets128
@tenets128 4 ай бұрын
Vatican II is not a council
@LeirbagFR
@LeirbagFR 4 ай бұрын
Islam and Catholicism are like coke or Pepsi. Pick your preferred works based salvation
@c.kevincrow2115
@c.kevincrow2115 4 ай бұрын
"Theistic Fallacies" by Dr. _?
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 4 ай бұрын
Gereby
@marcelalhind
@marcelalhind 4 ай бұрын
​@@JayDyer Thanks brother Jay Dyer God bless you for your work
@Hour_of_Mercy
@Hour_of_Mercy 4 ай бұрын
This is an excellent and very elaborate video that brings up many thoughtful points. As a Catholic, I believe it's essential to focus on the sacraments, especially the Eucharist-the true body and blood of Christ. While Popes and religious figures may sometimes misrepresent or make confusing statements, I don’t believe this invalidates Catholicism as a whole. The heart of the Church’s unity is not found solely in papal statements but in Christ Himself, who is truly present in the Eucharist. It’s through Him, in communion with the saints, that the Church remains united and continues to stand.
@Donnprada
@Donnprada 4 ай бұрын
I had to leave Catholicism today saddest day of my life
@2anthranilicacid
@2anthranilicacid 4 ай бұрын
Lord have mercy. I will pray for you.
@matiasluukkanen7718
@matiasluukkanen7718 4 ай бұрын
Saddest day of your life was to be free of deception that was on its way to whisk your immortal soul to hell? No, this should be happiest day of your life. You are free from great deception and can become a christian.
@Deathbytroll
@Deathbytroll 4 ай бұрын
@@matiasluukkanen7718 more charity, friend, it’s a devastating thing to be shown something you believed in strong is false. Even if there is great joy in the future with the Truth
@josephb.4640
@josephb.4640 4 ай бұрын
Someone needs to record how many Catholics are leaving the RC after this. The numbers must be astronomical.
@Procopius464
@Procopius464 4 ай бұрын
Come to Lutheranism, LCMS if you're in the US. We are similar to Catholicism but we have no papacy. We just use the Bible for doctrine.
@orlog3343
@orlog3343 4 ай бұрын
Starting to notice that RCs seem to think their bishops and saints are authoritative and righteous because of these titles, whereas the Orthodox Church gives these titles to people because they teach and confess the one truth. RCs would rather go thru gymnastics to justify heresy, then correct it at the source.
@OrangeMonke14
@OrangeMonke14 4 ай бұрын
Just a shower thought I had. What are your thoughts on dinosaurs?
@cjgumbert
@cjgumbert 4 ай бұрын
F-hake
@slowzberry
@slowzberry 4 ай бұрын
😆 🦖
@pragashgnana597
@pragashgnana597 4 ай бұрын
I was seriously considering starting RCIA until this news came out few days ago. Now I'm leaning towards EO or the Coptic church
@razorbager
@razorbager 4 ай бұрын
Respect, Jay. I’m catholic, these are troubling times, this pope is clearly heretic. The solution is not to change to another religion but to save the one church. I pray Catholics and Orthodox unite once again so we can move away from these troubled waters.
@Roman_ROCMP
@Roman_ROCMP 4 ай бұрын
The Church has already been saved by our Lord Jesus Christ. The papist synagogue is a heretical sect which has departed from that Church around a thousand years ago, since then the Latins have proclaimed a myriad of blasphemous heresies as their official teaching. Changing the false religion of papism, repenting and joining the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Eastern Orthodox Church is the only option you have if you wish to avoid eternal damnation, as all heretics will eventually depart into the everlasting fire.
@BroadwayRonMexico
@BroadwayRonMexico 4 ай бұрын
It wont happen unless the papacy essentially ex cathedra admits that all of the post-schism papal dogmas are in error (worth mentioning that Benedict XVI *did* come VERY close while stopping just short of flat-out admitting it) and renounces the Filioque. Also, quite a few RC canonizations/beatifications would need to be revoked (histrionic demoniac nuns like Margaret Mary Alacoque, and persecutors of Orthodox Christians like Josaphat Kuntsevych and Aloysius Stepinac, as some examples). You will probably see the Ecumenical Patriarchate/GOARCH go Uniate next year, though. I doubt any of the others will
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 4 ай бұрын
Vatican 1 clearly teaches popes cant be heretics. This means papalism is false.
@Deathbytroll
@Deathbytroll 4 ай бұрын
If you believe that then Catholicism has been in error since at least Vatican 1 and if that’s also the case then Orthodoxy has a stronger claim to being the true Church than Catholicism
@MillionthUsername
@MillionthUsername 4 ай бұрын
@@JayDyer What the hell is "papalism"? You mean Christianity? Christ appointed Peter to his office, so the papacy is part and parcel of Christianity. Always was, always will be. And, no, Vatican I teaches that the pope is infallible when he speaks EX CATHEDRA on faith or morals. It doesn't teach that he somehow loses free will when he takes the office and therefore can never sin in the area of heresy or anything else. It's saying there is divine protection, through Christ's prayer for Peter, against him formally teaching heresy to the whole Church. Christ established the papacy, so Christ backs it up. You also must realize that anyone who is actually a heretic is therefore not a Catholic, so therefore cannot serve as pope.
@Nrev973
@Nrev973 4 ай бұрын
Hey Jay! I’m in the process of OCIA(RCIA) and I deeply appreciate your intellect and criticisms. I’m formally atheist and don’t really understand much about church councils etc. From my noobish stand point I appreciate EO thought and practice and I think Catholics are also awesome. Do you think the east is needed in order to balance out the west maybe?
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 4 ай бұрын
No I think Orthodoxy is the only legitimate Church
@Hope_Boat
@Hope_Boat 4 ай бұрын
The orthodox Church is relevant ☦️
@FideiDefensatrix
@FideiDefensatrix 4 ай бұрын
@Hope_Boat The Orthodox Church hasn’t been relevant since the Great Schism. Its share of the Christian population has been shrinking ever since.
@JdSpoof
@JdSpoof 4 ай бұрын
I have had an interest in orthodoxy for some time (coming from a protestant background), but do not live close to a parish that I can go to every week. How can I begin practicing orthodox teachings where I am now?
@Roman_ROCMP
@Roman_ROCMP 4 ай бұрын
It is vital that you get baptised in an Orthodox Church, because without the sacrament of baptism you can’t be considered a Christian - so put all of your available resources into reaching the nearest Church, a priest that can baptise you so you could be joined to the Arc of Salvation, the Church, and give you Communion. It is of utmost importance that you do it as soon as possible.
@David-kz2im
@David-kz2im 4 ай бұрын
Visit your local Orthodox Church and speak to one of the spiritual fathers there before or after Divine Liturgy. Let them know that you are discerning the Orthodox Church and want to begin the process of becoming a catechumen. Things will proceed from there, God willing. P.S. As the brother mentioned above, baptism is very important as it pertains to our being members of the Church. This is why it should not be delayed.
@JCKay
@JCKay 4 ай бұрын
@E_PluribusUnum
@E_PluribusUnum 4 ай бұрын
Jay Dyer has probably been the best finding I made thx to Andrew Wilson
@DrCrispyJohnson
@DrCrispyJohnson 4 ай бұрын
Perennial Vatican philosophy
@davidotto7612
@davidotto7612 4 ай бұрын
The Catholic Church is the true faith built on Christ. A bad pope does not affect the Church or Its teachings. People of weak faith may be easily shaken by this.
@jessecurle716
@jessecurle716 4 ай бұрын
Except Jay explains why this isn't the case in this video. Did you watch it?
@rishg134
@rishg134 4 ай бұрын
@@jessecurle716Obviously not, or he missed how the rot runs deep throughout Vatican 2
@georgemartin1383
@georgemartin1383 4 ай бұрын
@@jessecurle716 Jay is being autistic, their have been worse Popes in history, and worse Orthodox Patriarchs then the Pope.
@Nochiya
@Nochiya 4 ай бұрын
You're practicing selective hearing or just not comprehending what the response is.
@caseycardenas1668
@caseycardenas1668 4 ай бұрын
A bad Pope doesn't affect the Church or its teachings? Then what's the point of having him? The foundation is built on him, that position is nonsensical.
@CedanyTheAlaskan
@CedanyTheAlaskan 4 ай бұрын
Orthodox have said this as well. Though, i dont think his statement is as cut and dry as it may seem
@JayDyer
@JayDyer 4 ай бұрын
The difference is this disproves Vatican 1
@bob_bobbins
@bob_bobbins 4 ай бұрын
красава мужик
@BenjaminButler.
@BenjaminButler. 4 ай бұрын
Fanook
@animals_are_alive
@animals_are_alive 4 ай бұрын
Skittles man
@Chance_Rice
@Chance_Rice 4 ай бұрын
Whats the meaning behind this
@paulthiele3102
@paulthiele3102 4 ай бұрын
Great stuff, man! Boy would I love to see you take on JD Catholic Engage!
@RavenCreekCharms
@RavenCreekCharms 4 ай бұрын
Jay, you ROCK !! 🙏💜
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