Pope Francis: There Is "Too Much F@GGOTRY!" | The Catholic Talk Show

[@ufoundwaldo5995]

Anyone entering the seminary must conduct themselves in a way worthy of a Catholic priest Chastity. Not just gay or straight chastity. CHASTITY.

[@anairenemartinez165]

Exactly. It is a tough job but somebody got to do it.

[@goodman4093]

What are you even saying? Having gay tendency means you aren't baptised with the holy spirit. It is Same as anger, lust etc. A man must have cast out these to be even a good Christian much less a pastor of church. Is this how the standard has fallen in the western church?

[@nortonvandepoele2359]

@@goodman4093 that is not what the person is saying

[@MichaelMcDonald-my2np]

You can be LGBT and Christian 👨‍❤️‍👨

[@deb9806]

Priests have had affairs with men and women, both are wrong but chastity has to be the goal. Today priests, parish priests are very busy but some say lonely. You can be lonely in a crowd and with paperwork up to your ears. I wonder how well the seminary prepares you for that. I knew an older priest, 60 maybe who sent out emails and notes to fellow priests to have lunch, use a day off from mass etc and out of over 20, got maybe 2 returns. Busy, not interested, IDK. You need friendships. The dinner over a parishioners house is not the same as a confidante, a person to go on a hike with or lunch.

[@juliehiga8628]

“Don’t let your emotions carry you out of truth” great line. God bless you both!

[@dansaber4427]

You can be LGBT and Christian 👨‍❤️‍👨

[@KathyMcClernan]

I have been praying for Jen, Father Rich and his Mother. He deserves the time off, to help his Mom and and hopefully having his knees taken care of. God Bless each one of you.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

What happened to his knees? 😨😰

[@ritablanchard8133]

@@MeanBeanComedyI know he had knee surgery in college (listen to his call to the priesthood). So I’m betting arthritic issues. Or another injury.

[@JayRedding12_12]

Thank you. I was about to comment and ask what happened to Fr. Rich because this is the first episode that I didn't see his name during the opening theme.

[@KathyMcClernan]

I just saw Fr. Rich is not in the opening credits. I pray he comes back. The three of you are great together.

[@Karen-c3d7i]

I am a 77 year old mother of two adult married sons. I have worked in the Catholic church and understand what you are discussing. This interchange has truly hit the mark. Your interchange is truly enlightening. We are children of God. We are adopted sons and daughters of our Father in heaven. Co-heirs to heaven! Thank you. I am grateful for your honesty and clear thinking.

[@karenlesiak3625]

Just one thing: We are his children: not adopted We are his created creatures

[@Rosiedelaroux]

Hilarious

[@MarilynBoussaid-yd1vk]

@karenlesiak3625 Actually, in a strict sense, we are adopted. By Baptism, we become the adopted sons and daughters of God. There are numerous Scripture passages to support this. Sometimes people use the term "children" loosely. In that sense we can say that everyone is a child of God, because of being His creature. It doesn't mean to be in right relationship with God.

[@michaelverde4844]

​@@karenlesiak3625 Yes to both. We are "adopted" and children of God.

[@phoenixaz8431]

@@karenlesiak3625 You are God's child insofar as you love, trust and obey him. I try to be gracious and decent to every soul, so I don't go out of my way to disobey God, but I don't love nor trust Christ or the Father. Hence I'm not of God but of Satan. Christ was clear on that when he told whoever that they were of their father, the devil. We're born as de facto enemies of God. Baptism, conversion and a Christian life are what make you a child of God.

[@lovemeorshutup]

No need to apologize. The pope spoke the truth regardless if someone's feelings were hurt.

[@ghosty4262]

Oh he spoke the truth...but hindsight is 20/20. Today, Archbishop Carlos Vigano made allegations that Jorge Mario Bergoglio was a homopredator at the Seminaries too like his friend, Defrocked Teddy Mccarrick.

[@tenaciousb4731]

Their feelings weren't hurt. It was their butt that got hurt. Probably due to gay stuff

[@fullcircle4723]

Exactly! But wasn't it not too long ago he told his bishops to bless same-sex marriage. Confused.

[@vanessagarcia7515]

@@fullcircle4723he did not say that! He said gay people could receive a blessing but NOT the union !

[@YoutubeHandleModerator]

Well, I think they should work on the kid touching, cause somehow that just got ignore and moved around.

[@MarilynBoussaid-yd1vk]

Jesus did say that some make themselves eunuchs for the Kingdom of God. He is not speaking literally. I believe this refers to someone making the decision to be celibate and chaste in order to devote himself entirely to the service of God's Kingdom. This requires a tremendous amount of Grace. I don't recall hearing much mention of Grace in this discussion. The power of God's Grace is unfathomable. Prayer, fasting, and the Sacraments -- sources of Grace. A real desire for holiness. The priesthood is the highest calling on earth, in my opinion. When I watch the priest recess out of church after Mass, I get a feeling in my heart, a welling up of gratitude and awe. That man brought me Jesus. Nobody on earth but a Roman Catholic priest can say the words of Consecration and bring Jesus down from heaven. This might not be theologically well expressed, but it's how I see it. I'm a convert from Judaism and so grateful to be Catholic. I would say that almost every priest I've met in over 30 years of Daily Mass has been holy, devout, self-sacrificing, and kind-hearted. The priesthood is a daily martyrdom. I don't know where all these terrible priests are that you're talking about; I haven't met them. Pray for our priests, make sacrifices, pray for vocations. Without our priests, we are lost.

[@Myohomoto]

❤ Very wonderfully said! ❤

[@Happy-zj9wo]

amen❤

[@in_defense_of_the_church]

Every priest deserves respect because of their office and bc they are all made in the image of God but as a 31 year old that tries to be very involved in my local parishes I have, in my opinion, met not so great priests. Priests are men and like all of us men they are not all perfect. We had a Hispanic priest who by his mannerisms we could see he was maybe one of these priests being talked about in the video and he did end up falling into some kind of scandal and was removed from the parish. Nice priest and I’m sure he is very devout but like we all do, he fell to his sin. Fortunately it was not with a minor but with an adult.

[@theyliveyousleep8965]

@@in_defense_of_the_church homosexuality is 💯 contrary to the very foundation of the Catholic Faith. Doesn’t matter if the priest is nice and well-meaning. Entering the priesthood and nunnery requires an oath of poverty, chastity and obedience. Any kind of mortal sin is contrary to these oaths. Being a gambler or thief = lack of poverty. Being a porn actor, porn addict or homosexual = lack of chastity. Ignoring the oaths to live however they want = lack of obedience. A devout person is above worldly affairs & personal desires…and puts God first in their life. So a devout priest would not fall to sexual scandal. This is much more dire than venial sins or simple human slip ups. It’s a choice.

[@anairenemartinez165]

It is one of the Sacraments, like Marriage, baptism, last rites.

[@gstrikr7]

These news agencies could have titled it better: "Pope Francis says more Catholic things. More news at 11."

[@videowatchaccount7551]

Must you manufacture hate?

[@sadiegirlson8122]

I've never heard any Church official refer to their Seminarians as "fa*gots" before. Where is it written? I'd like to know when my Church started calling gay men fa*gots. The 11:00 news seemed surprised by this new religious term.

[@K-bq3lv]

Actually, the headline should have been, "Finally the Pope takes a traditional Catholic stance".

[@StringofPearls55]

​@@videowatchaccount7551 must you manufacture victimhood?

[@videowatchaccount7551]

@@K-bq3lv Biblical stance, actually.

[@jillheath3276]

I support The Pope with his comments. I believe we all know in our hearts that Pope Francis did not mean to come across in a negative manner. He has said multiple times all are welcome to Mother Church. We are all sinners, we all have our cross or crosses to bear. I agree with both Popes regarding Holy Orders for the priesthood/seminary. Their hearts are with the sinner and eyes focused on God and His gift of redemption for us, a place to worship and receive Him in the Holy Eucharist. His church needs to be focused on Christ, love. Christ’s Priest need to be men of the cloth without any hidden sin’s that could be potentially danger to the Priest, Mother Church(the laity). It took courage for Pope Francis to address this issue with Bishops he knows will push back. God bless him and keep him safe.

[@fc-qr1cy]

one problem we forget. humans did not walk from africa to argentina and Jorge Mario Bergoglio become POPE to lie to us. he is human but his intent of LOVE for all of US just in kindness, grace, and peace.. not pervert, hate, evil, envy. homosexuals and straight people both decide they act because of free will. be more than a sexual animal. there should be a mental standard for priest hood.

[@thomashunt6123]

​​@@fc-qr1cyYou do know about evolution and migration, don't you? Humans did indeed evolve in Africa and did indeed disperse across the continents, by walking. Specifically, people crossed the landbridge of Beringia and eventually migrated to South America

[@kfresne3011]

There used to be stringent vetting and close attention paid to seminarians during their training. ​@@fc-qr1cy

[@videowatchaccount7551]

@@thomashunt6123 The out of africa theory has long ago been debunked.

[@genevievekelly1792]

Everything he says is negative toward reverence. He is a heretical communist infiltrator into the Catholic Church.

[@tracyohare4008]

The Pope has nothing to apologize for. Maybe he could of used a better word but truth is truth

[@janeyount8412]

He should have used an inoffensive term, but he's correct to object to sexually disordered seminarians.

[@Ruudes1483]

@@janeyount8412It doesn’t matter what term he used, the rainbow mafia would still be upset.

[@genevievekelly1792]

This heretical pope needs to apologize for all the disgusting unholy things he has done and is pushing on the Church. He is NOT even Catholic. He is a communist infiltrator.

[@danielacristicchi9618]

I think that he used that term because he didn't know it's an offensive one. He's not italian so maybe it's just a mistake

[@lsd8497]

Nothing wrong with the word. Homosexuals did the same by adopting the word "gay" when the actual meaning is merry, chearful. So how come they're allowed to soften the definition for their way of life and the Pope can't plainly say it blatantly?

[@kimfleury]

This is a thoughtful and considerate discussion. I ignore mainstream and almost all secular reports of pretty much anything the Pope says or does, so I missed this report. You brought it all together into a cohesive teaching of the Church, with the theological and practical aspects behind the teaching. Thank you for that.

[@helenebee166]

When my friend was in seminary, he said you would go to bed after dinner because of the activity that went on at night with a certain group of people. So, it affected everyone's way of life in that seminary.

[@meganlazare9177]

Yikes!

[@ritablanchard8133]

@@meganlazare9177read goodbye few good men

[@bluebear107]

Really ?

[@mrking695]

That makes me so sad.

[@tammyhartley1382]

After all the scandal in our church, everything swept under the rug, why as a seminarian, wouldn’t you do something about that type of activity, if it was going on in the seminary? that doesn’t even make sense.

[@rscott1459]

Great conversation on this issue. Very well balanced and considerate! Keep up the good work!

[@joshf2697]

Ryan and Ryan, I really appreciate the channel and your work. You guys are doing great things for Christ and his Church. I will say that I was hoping that a distinction was made in this video between gay-identified men seeking the priesthood and men seeking the priesthood who, though bearing the burden of same-sex attraction, have never identified as gay, nor ever acted out, nor promoted the lifestyle or any changes to Church teaching. I happen to be a man in the latter category. Yes it's a struggle, but it is not impossible and there are many groups out there that help integrate people who struggle. For me, Desert Stream helped me tremendously. I just wanted to bring to your guys' attention that there are men earnestly seeking the priesthood and striving to live authentically masculine lives while having all different kinds of struggles. Again, thanks for your work and keep it up. Prayers for you guys.

[@patsampson1174]

Perfectly said. Thank you.

[@emilialyngdoh5490]

Now I feel like spending time before the blessed Sacrament for all those who are in seminarians for Priesthood.

[@Ikakaal]

The Pope was being honest and factual. As a Sikh of the True Guru. I respect what he said. Peace and respect to him. 🙏🏽

[@virginiahydo3452]

More prayers for Jenn and Fr. Rich

[@cfban]

What happened to Fr Rich?

[@MeanBeanComedy]

​@@cfbanHis mother is sick. 😢 He's taking care of her! ☺️

[@giselepiesinger2286]

🙏🏻for Father Rich and his mother🙏🏻

[@lisamonoson]

Is Father Rich coming back? I noticed his name was removed from the intro😢. I know he's caring for his mom and his knees but didn't expect to see his name gone from the intro to this show.

[@Karen-c3d7i]

Hallow IS AMAZING! Started out slowly and now - it is part of my life!

[@LauraBeeDannon]

I listen to music on ot every night to fall asleep.

[@teresaritchie2177]

Agree same here, I love using hallow . Has helped me develop a routine, educational, informative prayer routine. 🙏🙏🙏

[@jillheath3276]

Thanks gentlemen for the update! We should say a rosary for Fr. Rich, his Mom and Jenn ❤

[@writegillian]

Let's do it. I'll do one in the morning. Praying for Fr. Rich and his family.

[@giselepiesinger2286]

My husband and I will say the rosary for Jenn, Father Rich and his mother🙏🏻📿

[@donaldnavatto9890]

Thank you for commenting on this subject. It was on our news so hopefully this clears it up🙏💕🙏

[@DSkye-n7m]

Prayers for your wife and Fr Rich and his mother.

[@helenebee166]

There are so many really beautiful choices for prayers and devotions in the Catholic Church. I love the Divine Mercy Chaplet. Hallow is a beautiful place. Prayers for Jen and Father during my Divine Mercy Chaplet, that is when I feel closest to our Lord. 🙏🏻❤️‍🔥

[@john_from_eastcoast.]

The Pope calls it as he sees it. The other Vatican officials told him to apologize, but he knows better.

[@RepentImmediately]

How many priests in your state have been accused of being a pedo? In Illinois it's 500.

[@IsaacRushing-qs5vq]

Think he just said how he feels out of sheer frustration.

[@videowatchaccount7551]

@@RepentImmediately How many rabbis do the same and then it remains hidden from authorities under rabbinical moser law?

[@SmokeyLove-vt4xd]

@@RepentImmediatelyyeah, Illinois what other southern/midwest states?

[@johnpietros9439]

​@@RepentImmediatelythat. Number is absolutely false.

[@unicornclouds8723]

I will keep Father Rich and Jennifer in my prayers. May God bless and be with them.❤

[@johnflorio3576]

Pope Francis is firing a shot at the bishops; they run the seminaries.

[@peterzinya1]

The pope is in on it too. Its all just a show. News is getting out that ALL new priests are fegatellos.

[@tomgjokaj]

Cardinal McElroy, and cardinal Cupich and Bishop John Stowe and Fr James Martin and let's not forget Fr Massengale they ain't gonna be happy 😁

[@Tobymydog812]

@@tomgjokaj poor babies..ya breakin ma heart

[@tomgjokaj]

@@Tobymydog812 that's fine don't get your booty poked 😁

[@tomgjokaj]

@@Tobymydog812 whatever sins you're struggling with if it's SSA God can cure it give it to God just like I couldn't overcome my sins until I gave it over to God

[@wuttamark8584]

I appreciate the strong stance. I have a friend involved in the Methodist church and she wants to leave and she's pretty liberal but she says "every week its like the church of gayness. Every week there is some LGBT agenda being pushed and promoted. All the pastor talks about is LGBT issues and displaying rainbows" and to me that's a clear sign of someone who has lost the script and is instead embracing the acceptance of modern society than embrace The Lord.

[@mariekatherine5238]

He’s right! There shouldn’t be any of that in the seminary.

[@workinprogress-ye5or]

No man should stay in seminary if deep down he thinks he is "hiding" , hiding from getting married, people asking him too, ultra conservative parents. He wont be happy. I listened to priests, older who talked of how many were pushed in for various reasons. Maybe less judgement from others will keep curbing that from happening. I think now, if anyone loves the Lord, feels called and will stay chaste, who they feel desire for shouldn't matter. Pedophiles aren't gay or straight, they just are. My husband was in law enforcement and they are a different breed who love kids in a sick way but not adults. They are married, single, gay and straight.

[@garycarbone]

To Marie: you’re correct, but there is a proper way to say it if you’re pope…you don’t just blurt things out…not what he said but the WAY he said it

[@workinprogress-ye5or]

@@garycarbone I think he didn't know the slang well. He goes out of his way to be nice. But he's human and he apologized.

[@garycarbone]

To work in progress: Agreed

[@peggyjones4563]

More prayers for Jen and Fr. RICH. AND hallow is the BEST!!! I joined it for over a year Best decision i ever made . Also being a patron of the catholic talk show.

[@JackieHamlin-xs5se]

That was by far one of your best podcasts. Good job Ryan and Ryan!

[@priestsfortherestorationof9390]

I do agree with his assessment, but he has no finesse. The Church does not need men who are compromised in any way.

[@jackiehall1953]

Thank you for this talk. It really help me in understanding what is going on in my Catholic Church. ❤

[@peterzinya1]

Dont tell me you just found out 70% of priests are homos.?

[@patriciahoffman5140]

Prayers for Father Richa and his Mother, Also prayers for Jenn. God bless all of you!

[@generaldurandal3568]

Glory, Honor, blessings, thanks and praise to the Lord my God, for healing my heart during a heart attack! On March 26th 2022, just past midnight, I was restless in bed, my limbs became numb & tingly, my chest became tight, & my heart felt like it was being crushed. So I sang out to God and Jesus, about my pain, my feelings, my faults and my inabilities. As I sang, I began to feel like a river, & a hand was on my back, it's fingers where skimming the surface of the waters, separating the waters, causing ripples through my body. Then the hand reached inside my chest, lit my heart on fire, & the heat moved like waves through my body. When I was done singing, all the pain was gone, & I looked at the clock, it was past 1am, I had sang near an hour. Then the voice of my guardian angel called my name from above, & there was a hymn of energy in the air, the same hymn I hear in my dreams of God. Hallelujah to the Lord my God for healing my heart! Hallelujah for His son Jesus for saving my soul! Hallelujah for every day! Hallelujah for every breath! The Lord is Faithful and true! May the Lord Bless your hearts, so that you have the will and strength to turn from selfish sins, and flee from the slaveries of the flesh!

[@paul_321]

People outside the church will complain. The laity of the church will applaud Pope Francis

[@workinprogress-ye5or]

I don't think he meant to use that slang the way he did. He's a kind man and same one who welcomes gay men and women into the church, who talked to teens in film about being gay and abortion and other things. He was never curt or rude. He's human but I wouldn't applaud a bad word. I'm sure Jesus wouldn't say that or applaud.

[@davidtalley6939]

I am sorry that the holy father used the word that he used, but the message is that a disordered nature is not going to continue to be tolerated in the priesthood. We are all sinners and need God's grace. But the priesthood has to be on a higher level.

[@chase6579]

Why would you be sorry? Sometimes forceful speech is required to get people's attention. Especially when years of gentle speech has been ignored. I'm only sorry he apologized.

[@RickW-HGWT]

He is neither holy nor a spiritual father, his betrayal of our Chinese brethren to the ccp using the filth mccarrick as his toady shows that. This is no surprise, he insults faithful religious and laity, mocked Cardinal Burke during his illness, so this is all in character for this evil hireling. I'm curious how the popesplainers are going to spin this one, look for him to do something insulting to the faithful during June to get back in the good graces of the mob.

[@patrickkenna6387]

Nothing wrong with that word, Christians need to stop being weak.

[@IsaacRushing-qs5vq]

Don't you dare be sorry. I'm a very liberal guy. This just doesn't belong in our priesthood. Your personal life? I don't really care. That's between you and the Almighty. But if you're a priest? Very clearly not okay.

[@ignatiusjackson235]

​​@@IsaacRushing-qs5vq That's exactly how I feel, compadre... wanna make love? JUST KIDDING, DUDE!!! 😂

[@joseeturner]

I really appreciate this discussion. I think you hit the nail on the head on so many levels. I appreciated the insight that the tendencies, whatever they are, that are especially acted upon in privacy whether it be of a sexual nature, alcohol it might even be with a love of money, are things that need to be addressed as something that might indicate a signal that a person is not meant for the priesthood especially given the solitary nature of the priesthood. There were just so many good points. Thank you! God be with you and praying always for Jen!

[@kevinkoski7570]

This was a really insightful discussion, especially talking about personal experiences. St Peter Damian, pray for us

[@cchronis8864]

This is by far the best clarity, insight and perspective on the issue of homosexuality in the Church, our response and Pope Francis's statement. Thank you.

[@matthewblanchard3211]

Thank you for clarifying this teaching! As someone who suffers and has suffered with SSA, it was good to hear the loving side of the reasoning behind not entering priesthood. God bless!

[@johnniles2715]

And shortly after we read... Pope Francis has reportedly encouraged a 22-year-old gay man to continue to pursue a vocation to the priesthood after he was not accepted into a Catholic seminary. According to the Italian newspaper Il Messaggero, the pope responded to an email from Lorenzo Michele Noè Caruso, telling him to “go ahead” with his vocation Can this guy not make up his mind?

[@rhwinner]

Let's be honest: he's right.

[@carakerr4081]

Excellent conversation thank you so much! It was very helpful for me God bless you both and your families and Father Pagano 🙏🙏

[@DesignInNature]

Francis perhaps used too crude a word, but he spoke the truth, and a truth that needed to be spoken out loud. The priesthood is NOT a closet for those struggling with homosexual tendencies. It is the place where the Lord prepares servants for pastoral work for the protection and guidance of his sheep.

[@tengligutan265]

Ryan D Jen is in my everyday prayer especially interceding through Blessed Solanus Casey along with Fr Rich and his Mom and I added St Jude for both of them. Thanks for the update. I plan to start praying to St Ezekiel Moreno patron saint of cancer patient. A priest who was diagnosed with lung cancer and is healed through the intercession of St Moreno. God bless all.

[@ll_Scholastica_ll]

🔥❤️‍🔥🤝🙌🏻🕊🙏🏻True... Blessed Mother of God, pray for us! Jesus I trust in you. 🌹

[@antonioflores7917]

Mb also thanks so much for the vid and I'm really happy to see you guys. Prayers for Ryan's wife and father rich's mom and miss him a lot 🙏

[@yeetmaestro575]

Even if it wasn’t intentional, it was right for the Holy Father to apologize. We should not utilize slurs in defining our institutions and beliefs, it does not do anything for us or those these words are directed at except for hurting them. I despise being associated with people who wanted it to be an intentional slur.

[@denisemaslowski7052]

Act of contrition says avoid the near occasion of sin Should a man who is prone to this sin be involved in the seminary with a group of men?

[@joecastillo8798]

@denisemaslowski7052 Denise, No one who has a sinful habit, which offends God, must be part of any Seminary until he has repented and resolved to never again revisit his past; thus avoiding the possibility of eternal damnation.

[@spike3346]

He has nothing to apologize for, call a spade, a spade.

[@simonslater9024]

No. Paul said that Sodomites are damned

[@springsummerwinterorfall]

Shame on you

[@nancymcmonarch]

He apologized because he said something mean and hurt people's feelings. That's what mature men do when they've done something wrong.

[@ritablanchard8133]

@@nancymcmonarchhe didn’t do anything wrong

[@abnd8025]

I think it's in Pope Francis' nature to apologize for something like this, but it doesn't mean he's gonna take it back.

[@soulscry]

If he is made to apologize then he should be made to ANSWER the Dubia from 2018 while he's at it...

[@sstritmatter2158]

No Pride Masses - since when do we venerate homosexuality? They don’t discuss confession, from what I have heard.

[@Hope_Boat]

We orthodox don't☦️

[@LauraBeeDannon]

I've never heard of a "pride mass". That seems like a letter to the Bishop time.

[@mrking695]

I haven’t heard of this and hope I never do. I would have to get up and walk out if I found myself in such a Mass.

[@sstritmatter2158]

I will say to all of you - I live near the Washington, DC region. One day years ago I happened to go see the famous steps in The Exorcist. It is in Northwest DC next to the Georgetown University Campus. I was walking by a Catholic Church that is right near there. There was a BUNCH of people at this Catholic Church and I couldn’t believe what I was hearing (warm day, the doors/windows were open so I could hear outside). It was basically affirming homosexuality. If I am not mistaken it may have been Fr. James Martin, SJ - the outspoken promoter of homosexuality in the Catholic Church. He is also a Jesuit (SJ) and Geaorgetown is a Jesuit University… so go figure. Yes this exists. The HORROR of it - pray to God that the clergy teach, preach and follow the dogmas, moral doctrine, sacraments, theology and traditions of the Church properly and replace those that don’t.

[@sstritmatter2158]

​@@LauraBeeDannon see Cardinal Tobin Archdiocese of Newark Pride Mass. Now, I responded to you once with this and came back and noticed KZbin outright took it down. Honest - I would say this upon the Altar of Christ, not making this up. Hopefully this message stays. But it goes to show there are evil powers at work and media is one of them trying to hide this.

[@jlopez-showalter3846]

In italian the word may not be as gross as Americans want it to be. This PC culture has gone too far for a country built on freedom of expression. Ridiculous. I use the word queer for anything that seems queer to me and now zi'm chastized like a two year old.

[@Aurora-tp3dy]

Yeah, it's the same.

[@loganleroy8622]

Apparently, according to other Italians fluent in both languages it carries the same level of connotation.

[@UpstateMarc]

Yes,

[@donaldbush1182]

It’s similar to calling a black person the N-word.

[@ignatiusjackson235]

​​​@@donaldbush1182 It's absolutely not even the same thing. Your melanin levels are completely different to your sexual orientation. Nothing about the latter has ever been proven to be genetic. These LGBT really need to quit using the serious problem of racism as a bargaining chip. It's obnoxious, misleading, and insensitive to the entire Civil Rights movement.

[@existentialpoet8216]

It does not surprise me that Pope Francis continues to be criticized when, in fact, he has been clear that, as sinners, all are welcome to come before God. The challenge with any identity issues is that individuals tend to weaponize their victimology.

[@theyliveyousleep8965]

Yes, all sinners are welcome to come before God. But the whole point is for those sinners to stop sinning, to. choose holiness and to change their lives. Most Protestant denominations leave that last part out and cry out to just “come as you are!” without ever making changes to their lives according to God’s plans for us.

[@jonellstetz356]

I was wondering if anyone was ever going to address the “good old boys club”. I struggle with your description that if you have deep-seated homosexual tendencies, you shouldn’t be a priest. I think that the term grooming at the seminary level is very appropriate and very against the teachings of becoming a priest.. I think that the thought of as long as you keep it in check, it’s all fine. Shouldn’t Be allowed either. I have personal experience in a parish where the pastor was arrested for trying to meet up with a young boy that was really an undercover agent … they found that he had been living a life on the back of the Catholic Church…. I’ve known two bishops in my diocese that had been whispered about as being homosexual… I see nothing wrong with Pope Francis telling those that are grooming the young man that wants to become priest to stop this behavior and focus on Christ and your vocation and you’re calling…. Otherwise they should not be in those positions.

[@padye1980]

They should not be in those positions..God made Adam and Eve..and instituted the union of man and woman..marriage..he did not make any other union..to say he did would be going against him

[@bajone02]

When you know the story of Bella Dodd secretly working for the Freemasons to recruit less than ideal men to the priesthood to bring the Church down, and you understand that spiritual warfare is all around, then. It makes even more sense to not perpetuate men who are already struggling with such tendencies to attempt to become priests, no matter how faithful they are trying to be.

[@irishandscottish1829]

Firstly if you are a faithful Catholic then have to ascent to the 2005 document on discerning vocations and what it says (which they read from in this video) Secondly you might want to repent of your participation of gossip! Unless you have actual evidence of those two bishops and the gossip and whispers of them being gay then you have committed a grave sin by repeating said gossip

[@kyled3737]

Don’t get me wrong, you guys are awesome, but i miss Fr. Rich :(

[@IrishEagIe]

Where is he?

[@dcmbdcmb3116]

Where is he?

[@LostArchivist]

Where is he?

[@davidbauer1624]

​@@dcmbdcmb3116 I believe his mother has fallen ill and he is helping to take care of her, so he is taking time off for that.

[@dcmbdcmb3116]

@@davidbauer1624 Thank you. I have heard the same.

[@candacebailey7357]

So grateful for news about jen snd Fr. Rich. Thank you.

[@richardroy3813]

If all the gay priests and religious left their vocations and ministries the church would come to a dead halt!

[@tinadavy3990]

SAD TO SAY BUT SOOOOO TRUE .

[@HoldYourBreat4]

I don’t agree with you ! It’s hard enough being a Priest and living in celibacy… why put yourself in a setting with other men that share the same sexual inclination. “Avoid the near occasion of sin”

[@grunyonthoughtsfromagrunt8264]

Absolutely nothing wrong with what he said and he's 100%right. You can even make the argument 1 homosexual either in the Preisthood, Seminarys, decons or Nuns is too many.

[@anatomicallycorrwctsquirrel]

Yea, except you child abusers cant tell the difference between celibacy and the sexual abuse of the defenseless. 1 catholic in government is one too many, fucking dinosaurs

[@freddovsek4116]

No one should go into seminary or holy orders to work out their sexuality. Look at all the damage done and the poor victims. No hate here but it's Not the place to be

[@Firebird-65]

Thank you for having this excellent talk…I love and pray for Pope Francis 🙏🙏❤️ prayers for Father Rich and his mother 🙏🙏

[@patrickkearns344]

I just came across this episode just now - watched it - and I have read up on the latest statement coming from His Holiness in recent days..... AS a person who, 'once upon a time'.... has spent a short time in seminary in early years of formation - and who also left seminary voluntarily, so not to live a 'double edged sword' - soto speak - and since as an openly gay man - IF I had chosen to stay in seminary and pursue discernment of a ordained vocation - I would have whole heartly kept my promises of chasity and celibacy - that I had no issue with at all - but when I was told I would have to denounce my 'person' and ideals....well I couldn;t and that is what led me to leave seminary - if a man is faithful to promises of chasity and celibacy both thru years of formation and in their priesthood - who cares what sexual orientation their inner core is..... that is my stance which I stick to - thanks

[@theyliveyousleep8965]

But a persons sexuality is not WHO they are. Sex is an action, a choice, a behavior. Even if a person has sex every day…sex is only 0.2% of what they do. Yet people have been programmed to completely identify with taking their pants off. It doesn’t matter how many times the TV tries to tell people they were “born this way”…it’s just objectively not true. (Dozens of studies have proven this). And, there are countless testimonies of men and women who chose God, left their worldly desires and became as God created them to be.

[@glennhebert9016]

You know not of what you speak. GH PhD​@@theyliveyousleep8965

[@CONDACOCLIPS]

Sitting down and talking to a gay guy or girl face to face, the Pope would never dare use derogatory insulting language...for sure!

[@deb9806]

he might not have known, but he is older and human and I'm sure very sorry. In all his time as a priest, you never heard that from any gossip which they love to spread

[@garycarbone]

Italian is not his first language….if he giving this talk in Spanish, he would have chosen a different word, I’m sure…..I have a few things against him that many of us have, but in all fairness, he realized the blunder and did apologize….same feelings about it but would have chosen a fair, kinder word, not derogatory ; not sharp but would have gotten the message out

[@deb9806]

@@garycarbone he never would hurt on purpose

[@garycarbone]

To Deb: exactly! He’s been taking a lot of “left turns” lately but in all fairness this wasn’t meant to hurt anybody

[@charlottelauzon3147]

Disorder is disorder. We are seeing the effects of where priests or seminarians seek comfort for their disorders and temptations. Whether it involves sex, alcohol, food…etc. The laity notice these things. Where it involves sex, we have scandals. Where it is alcohol or food it involves health issues that effect the longevity of their vocation. Just saying…. Stress is a big factor there.

[@blaiseaimee7098]

100%. Stress but also attacks from the evil one. We have to pray for our priests more fervently.

[@mrking695]

I went to confession in a cathedral while visiting a certain town for a few weeks. I noticed the priest at times sounded effeminate and I was actually ashamed of myself for thinking he was gay because he seemed so nice. I later saw him outside the confessional and noticed he is in love with food. It’s very sad really but you are right, the laity notices.

[@marciahoward7023]

Just think if it was St.Peter responding...what Pope Francis said would just be Peter warming up....

[@willys2747]

Priest are supposed to be celibate. They are not supposed to have sex. This means no sexual orientation.

[@peterzinya1]

Thats the claim the CC makes. Have you ever been in a seminary when the sun goes down? Lawd have mercy baby cakes. Lasse le bontemps roulet!

[@tammyhartley1382]

@@peterzinya1that’s a horrible statement.

[@_Pia12]

@@tammyhartley1382he sounds gay, would you expect a gay to say anything decent?

[@peterzinya1]

@@tammyhartley1382 Good catholics like yourself dont like people mentioning these things. Shoot the messenger. But the reality wont go away. Even your Hoy Father said the same thing. (;-D. Its not a secret anymore. Get a grip on reality.

[@marklisney1319]

Priests aren’t expected to be asexual.

[@soulscry]

THE MOST honest and truthful statement reflecting the magisterium that this "pope" has EVER made since 2013...

[@rick9870]

I stopped at the 10:17 mark because I heard Pope Francis's words thrown around twice. I am by no means a pope-splainer etc. but PF should not be taken out of context. PF didn't just say "who am I to judge?" In context, the full quote is Jul 29, 2013 ... "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will, who am I to judge?" His statement was a conditional one, not an unconditional one. This is altogether an independent thing from the statement he made to the bishops last week.

[@ritablanchard8133]

There’s a lot of back n forth. You should finish and hear the whole conversation. Just saying.

[@marklisney1319]

What does this mean for currently ordained priests in good standing who are gay? Would we not want priests like author Henri Nouwen? I’m not sure, but it might be better to look at the individual candidates for the seminary rather than make a blanket ruling.

[@LauraBeeDannon]

It means nothing. It means we shouldn't know if they are gay or not gay. They shou be talking about sexuality to the flock. If they do maybe it's to bring people to be chaste? Seems like it won't effect anyone who's already there.

[@Gemmahaven]

Pope is right this time.

[@johnholmes6667]

I hope the pope is sincere. His actions, associations and promotions defy his words. What can we believe. He’s confusing and conflicting.

[@ConvertingCatholic]

I love Pope Francis more and more everyday! 💙💪🏽🙏🏽

[@marciahoward7023]

I think it's funny what Pope Francis said and he's right!

[@LuisRamirez-vv4dk]

Well he's not wrong. Chose his words poorly but he's not wrong.

[@maryl.8417]

It’s not about rejecting the men who might be gay, after the abuse scandals the children have to be protected as well as the Bride of Christ.

[@marioatienza9453]

Indeed. What is ironic is his seeming too tolerant on the homosexuality issue with his pet "who am I to judge" quote.

[@tinadavy3990]

WISHY WASHY WISHY WASHY

[@cjr4497]

It is not okay for them to do so in any way shape or form. That is how we got the whole scandal we're in today and why so many refused to go to church. Francis is 100% right. Way too much gay. The laity is sick of it.

[@daniellekaraczun7484]

Thank you for this video - amazing conversation and insight

[@MoonlightNothing]

Good to see you Guys! ❤❤

[@row1landr]

James Martin should leave the priesthood.

[@Pigeonnz]

Hey everybody welcome back to another episode of the Catholic Talkshow, today we’re gonna be talking about Pope Francis’ recent based comments about homosexuals in the seminary

[@Spiritof76Catholic]

As usual I’m confused. Pope Francis promotes people who notoriously support active homosexuality but he’s apparently personally opposed to homosexuality in the priesthood? I don’t get it.

[@ruthgilmour8399]

The Pope knows. He is well aware and approaching judgment time himself. Time to clean house and what a big job that will be. I'm a devout Catholic, so it pains me to speak this way, but truth is truth.

[@josephsgroi4474]

My mother’s parish priest (there for decades until his retirement) whose housekeeper was his “wife” and her children were his.

[@erric288]

I think that back in the days when Priests had high regard in the public eye and men with SSA were still stigmatized in the culture, many men with SSA went into the priesthood and a subculture developed around their common sexuality. The hypersexuality of that subculture is the big problem where you get the abuse of fellow priests, seminarians, and children. I think that's waning now as people with SSA have no need to hide in holy orders, and seminaries are more keen on rooting these people out. I think that's what the Pope was joking about here in a morbid sort of dark humor. Obviously, he was talking to these sort of priests, now bishops, who were trying to open the seminaries back up to SSA men. It was his way of shutting them down while acknowledging the extent of the problem.

[@jessiewoods988]

He is correct they should not be behind the pulpit. or seminary . The UMC has enough for the 25 century .

[@quinnvids]

What I still have confusion about is whether it applies to someone who has truly repented from a gay lifestyle and doesn’t have those deep seeded tendencies at the time of pursuing priesthood

[@markjohnson1520]

That was Chesterton -- The true soldier fights not because of hate of what is in front of him but for love of what's behind him.

[@CatholicTalkShow]

Of course! Duh! I should have remembered that…

[@mjperfume1523]

How do I stop a curse that keeps being used on me. She had made my husband stop loving me. I have been married going on 54 yrs

[@PatrickIreland.]

as i understand it some bishops said that word to him and he repeated it back to them in a mocking way by way of sarcasm back at them , thats all

[@fc-qr1cy]

great conversation gentlemen. even myself as a man. i one reason could never be a priest because of my animal lust toward females. so i would rather be a good man and avoid hiding sin. Pope Francis was correct in saying many things this year remember we can not also pick and choose his statements to benefit our own agenda.. as it is true a Priest should not be openly homosexual as a Priest should not be openly sexual.. also he said war is evil and Love is good when we going to agree with that statement.. dont pick and choose just listen and learn..

[@normandrobert585]

As retired military, can I still get Hallow for free? If so, where can I go to sign-up? God Bless!

[@Felipe-js1wl]

Hey, he calls it like he sees it.

[@RepentImmediately]

Are most Catholics like you?

[@RepentImmediately]

People outside the Catholic Church view your leaders as pedos

[@danielscotthamm]

If Italian is not the Pope's first language, where did he pick this word? From the people around him in high positions in the church in Italy, among them the ones who snickered at his use of the word. Let us always pray for the deacons, priests, bishops, archbishops, cardinals and the pope, not only during mass, but on our own. One can find lots of prayers for them online. They need our prayers.

[@stevendinello2471]

GOOD! FINALLY!!!

[@soniak2865]

So what about current gay Priests? what does it matter as they are supposed to be celibate no matter their 'inclination'?

[@LauraBeeDannon]

If they tell you their sexuallity it's wrong. No priest should let you in on their personal sexual choices. Eww.

[@tina-g8p]

If they remain celibate , but how many do?

[@glennhebert9016]

Gay or straight!!! Over 53% of priests are not celibate, and that's a cinservative figure.​@@tina-g8p

[@johnf2023]

Many of the gay priests, even non-Jesuits, are enemies of the Catholic Faith and want the Church to change.

[@zplapplap]

This should have no bearing on a celibate priest.

[@hmm7204]

Very well said. "...impede on the masculine heart.' That's it exactly.

[@genevievekelly1792]

He FINALLY said something TRUE!

[@ultimouomo11]

You posted the wrong link to the thumbnail. When I pressed the thumbnail it brought me to another video.

[@rpmgrlca]

30 years ago, I was told about a man that left seminary because the gays made him very unwelcome. 30 years.

[@workinprogress-ye5or]

There have always been gay men in religious orders. It doesn't mean they aren't chaste. Maybe if conservative haters didn't force them to hide there, there would have been less. Today that is much less but some families would disown a son who said he was gay but be overjoyed he went to seminary.

[@zplapplap]

There’s no reason to presume that seminaries were somehow cleaner in the middle to end of the 20th century.

[@mfyhb]

think people should lighten up on Francis for his gaffe. All of us have occasions where we might have chosen better words. For example, Ryan perhaps could reconsider his definition of true fatherhood . The world is full of men who have been wonderful fathers to children they didn't sire, adoptive fathers, relatives or friends who step in for lost fathers, stepfathers, St. Joseph comes to mind, and others. Being gay does not prevent a person from having the attributes of loving, responsible parenthood. It may be that the gay parent may be particularily sensitive to his childs feelings if he has experienced the difficulties of being different from others. As for the " masculine heart", what the heck is that? Are males born with same sex attraction less masculine than straight men? I am sure you did not mean to promote the stereotype that gay men are uninterested in the same things that heterosexual men are. Obviously chasing women is not one of them, however lacking that desire often makes for close female friendships, in my experience. We all have our crosses to bear, priests included. I think if a man feels a vocation to serve God and is able to live within Church teachings, it should not preclude him from entering the priesthood. Otherwise you may have to accept women priests to keep our parishes open.

[@acevers]

I agree with Pope Francis but why does he put up with James Martin?