WAS IT REAL OR FAKE? | Sister Wives | David and Allison react to Season 19 E.4

[@peanutbutter46464]

11:19 Can we all play the game? 🚨 “WHAT DID KODY DO WRONG?” ⬇️ Add yours down below…

[@peanutbutter46464]

Credit David and Allison: 1) Not fair during Covid 2) Isabelle’s surgery 3) Telling Christine you’re not attracted to her and don’t love her 4) Maintaining a relationship with Meri indefinitely and without ever breaking it off 5) Being horrible to the children mothered by Meri, Janelle, and Christine 6) Buying a sports car for two when you have 18 kids 7) Offering Meri the barndominium 8) Icing out Janelle’s kids 9) Being horrible to Janelle 10) Only spending time with Janelle whenever 11) Spending more time with Robyn than anyone else 12) Melting down Meri’s wedding ring 13) Putting the house in just Robyn’s name 14) Dividing the land unevenly 15) Robyn’s big wedding 16) The kiss with Robyn 17) Robyn’s long honeymoon

[@carlynotwitter7728]

18. Ignoring Savanah 19. Scaring the family into moving to Vegas 20. Making the family move to Flagstaff for no good reason

[@tiffanykibby8832]

21. Not working at the relationship with his other wives and children. 22. Expecting all his relationships to revolve around him instead of trying to take an interest in any of their lives or interests.

[@o2lakowski]

Husband & Parent separate responsibilities

[@peanutbutter46464]

24. Forgetting Gabe’s birthday… yet calling Gabe on Gabe’s birthday ONLY for Kody’s own self-centered, attention-seeking needs and not acknowledging Gabe’s birthday at all.

[@CindyfromOz]

Remember this is Robyn who took her eldest 3 kids away from their real father and moved them far away and then re-wrote history with a fake photo and made Kody marry her and adopt her kids. When Covid hit she coerced him away from his other wives and their children because they were not safe.

[@chantallennox1201]

Can anyone make Kody do anything? Or did he always sneakily do (get) what HE desperately wanted and let Robyn take more than her fair share of the blame? I bet he played on Robyn’s naivety and over-anxious nature at all times to steer things in the directions he wanted. He’s never been a team player.

[@jlmdd2]

@@chantallennox1201exactly. Even in this discussion when he was running out of excuses of having to grovel with “those people” he made sure to remind her that they blamed HER. So yes, she was an active participant but Kody’s narcissism brought everything crashing down.

[@TheDgdunn62]

Robyn did to her 1st husband, make up lies about him to his kids. Alienate them from him. Shock Dayton with Kody adopting them as their dad when he loves his real dad. Robyn throws out her daddy issues now for us to be sympathetic. Nope not buying this as real fight. She is shady manipulative still.

[@laneneal3510]

But Robyn is trying to redeem herself

[@janesmith9006]

​@chantallennox1201 I think Kody and Robyn wanted everything and she is only changing courses because the public hates her.

[@janeanhite2418]

I want to also point out that Robyn understood that Arielle needed to express her feelings … but when she announced her pregnancy she was upset at the OG13 kids when they needed to express themselves… She is fake!

[@KellyLee62]

The need to express themselves is only for Robyn's kids. No one else is allowed!! 🙄

[@oc2538]

Oh yes, she was so disappointed they didn't jump for joy and hug her but she couldn't just let them absorb it. She had to comment about it. It was so unfair, even in a normal monogamous marriage, if Robyn was a step mom most kids wouldn't be thrilled.

[@kristinesharp6286]

Hunter was not even expressing himself. She bashed him cause he was not cheerleading the event. Victim mentality. 10 people seemed pleased. She even chased down Leon who when to a bathroom so as not to ruin anyone’s joy over being sad her mom had to hear again it was someone not her. Why was that necessary? Hunter was neutral as were Maddie and a few others. Robyn was doing a lot of GOT positioning. You have to in a family set up like that. Even asking to be Meri’s gestational carrier she said in a couple years when I get my body back can I, can I please I have to know now. WTH? It was totally about being in the middle of a drama. Why not ask when you are a few months from wanting to do it? Terrible idea. I’m glad they didn’t.

[@Sophia-uu1im]

Great catch!!! Another: during Covid she claimed “Kody is not one to have a wife control him”. Also Robyn when it came to Arielle clinging to Kody not wanting him to leave “I wouldn’t have allowed Kody to stay here and not go to another wife’s house” 🙄

[@cathywithac]

Until Robyn apologizes to Dayton, Breanna and Aurora for ripping them away from their bio-dad AND actively works to rebuild their relationship with him, I don't believe her sincerity. Her words don't fit her actions.

[@mckait]

100% and an apology won't repair the harm done.

[@Mtrench101202]

Wow. Yes!

[@confettiglass]

Right, so she separates the kids from their dad and, if the news stories are true, uses financial leverage to coerce him into giving up custody (Dayton's ATV accident hospital bills). Then, she stands in front of the whole family telling that story about how this bad boy/man "stole" her "purity," obviously insiunating that their dad had done the bad thing and mistreated her. And now she wants to stand there and complain that the other kids' moms are just telling the kids things that make them not want to have a relationship with Kody. The hypocrisy runs deep.

[@mrchips4489]

Rather ironic that Robyn is so concerned about Cody's relationships with his children but wasn't the least bit concerned about keeping her first 3 kids away from their father...pretty hard to take the convo seriously.

[@MzPurple74]

Bingo.....🎯!!!! Perfectly stated

[@kristinesharp6286]

Yep. Lots of things she does is contrary to what she says. Rules for thee and not for me? She should be terrified Breanna does not have a good relationship with her dad before he dies. If she is so worried about Hunter. He is throwing Janelle’s kids under bus but not Christine’s. He is not bashing Gabe and Garrison. Suddenly it’s Hunter and Maddie? This is total PR for Robyn. The person he loves most in the whole world. Why no mentioned of that? If it was not after Garrison like I suspect but before being as he texted crew that night from the show what were they filming with Garrison. What clips were they showing him. That would be absolutely devastating to hear as a child that their dad who is supposed to have loved 4 different women only loved one of them and puts her above the kids. I worry for Kody I hope he is getting in person therapy.

[@LPnerd]

Unless you were there, you have ZERO idea what happened in Robins first marriage.

[@NM-ub6ml]

Yes but robyns marriage shouldn't have defined her kids relationship with their father.. unless she had cps and a restraining order plus police reports on him.

[@kristinesharp6286]

@@NM-ub6ml you are not getting it. For the 2 years before the legal marriage the kids were not able to see the dad. The moment the marriage and adoption happened they finally brought and left the 3 kids with their bio dad and extended family for a visit for 2 weeks. Then Robyn and Kody drove up to collect them again. I think that was the carrot to make the kids okay with the adoption. You can see “Preston” after. Aurora was calling him Preston. On camera. To Janelle. And talking excited about seeing him finally after 2 years. These are really sick people. Not people who feel their bio dad was not around after the divorce but kids still need their bio dad people.

[@aimeeguzman6758]

Allison hit the nail on the head. Put your money where your mouth is! She is saying the right words but her actions don't fit. It was both Robyn and Kody that allowed the other kids to be neglected. She wanted him with her kids. I think she realizes he can discard her kids now too. She keeps her kids from their siblings so this is all talk.

[@fledge1234]

Totally agree. Robyn's actions never matched her words. She lied to her kids and said the other kids didn't want relationships with them. She interfered and removed her kids from their sibling gift exchange. She absolutely made sure that her kids saw Kody the most. He lived with her. He visited the others. When Garrison & Gabe asked Robyn if they could "have their dad back" you know she made sure to make them pay for that via riling up Kody's rage & ultimatum that they must apologize to her.

[@jenniferkovalick2959]

He already showed that her kids aren't immune to his abuse, since he put Dayton out of the house. He tried with Gabe and Garrison, but Janelle put her foot down on that one. Kody's like any other polygamist man, and can't stand criticism or anyone standing up to him.

[@SDStellaD]

@aimeeguzman6758 100%. Now she's seeing the results of her shitty behavior, and she doesn't like it. But it's too late. I think it would be great if he could reconcile with his kids, but I think she is truly too insecure to actually allow true reconciliation to happen.

[@kristinesharp6286]

@@fledge1234 and did not bring the kids to shower or Logan’s wedding. Robyn spoke about that. Not Kody. But Maddie was bad for moving her kids away from them. When he has had an open invitation to their home all this time. Robyn kept the kids from isolating Meri. Kody was asking her and she said no. Not a time to relax the rules. Uhm wasn’t that the rule isolate and get together? I don’t know how they can treat the rest like horrible humans who could contaminate them they have to keep Ari and Sol away from and expect to hold babies, get calls or have their calls answered. When the adults still sick dying from COVID with 99.6 degree temp - they didn’t send the little kids to Janelle’s to care for until they recovered. Or Meri’s. He said no more isolating and then showed them doing trick or treat to all the doors on their own house. Not even loading them up in the car to trick or treat at Janelle’s or Meri’s. He has lost it from isolating. Really.

[@Angelface11]

She says lots of terrible things too when they slip out and behind the scenes

[@cathywithac]

I've noticed that when Kody gets into an argument with one of the kids, the kids are talking about their relationship with Kody. When Kody feels called out, he brings Robyn's name into the argument to distract the conversation and hides behind her.

[@JMP829]

Good point!

[@msdaphne]

I think it probably goes something like, "Dad, here are ways that YOU showed preferential treatment toward Robyn/her household" and they arent actually saying anything about her specifically. But as soon as he hears it, in his head he goes, "oh, your example has a specific that I can place blame away from myself on? Okay. On Robyn. Now I will defend her and not myself. Because I can't actually defend my actions. So I am going to strawman your argument and say that Robyn did nothing wrong." But they are calling him out, not Robyn.

[@kaycarle8361]

​@msdaphne which basically makes it impossible for her to ever have a good relationship with any of them.

[@Jennifer_7600]

@@msdaphne Precisely!!! 👌

[@Jennifer_7600]

@@kaycarle8361 Yes! Thank you! 👌

[@binnydee]

After hearing you say Robyn wasn't awful to the kids, I *strongly* suggest you watch the entire series of Sister Wives. There are examples throughout all previous 18 seasons, from her telling Meri not to invite the rest of the family for thanksgiving because that felt "scary"; telling the kids if they didn't sign the Family Mission Statement they were out of the family; telling Maddie she can choose any church she liked, but after her brain was fully developed; pushing baby Truely away when gifts were given to her kids; her youngest child not even knowing her half-siblings' names, and lets not get started on how she kicked poor old Drake may he rest in peace. That whole filmed "heated exchange" was either set up or a dramatized reenactment of what took place before cameras arrived and Kody had to go for a drive to calm down.

[@g.flesch9731]

Robyn was so angry with Kody's teens when Kody announced that Truely would no longer be the youngest Brown cause Robyn was pregnant. Robyn holds it against the other Kody bio-kids because they were not excited or happy about her adding yet another kid to the family. She resented kids whose frontal lobe was not fully developed. Probably they were remember eating stale bread & hotdog water for food.

[@gloriabos2381]

​@@g.flesch9731 and let's not forget this family was always struggling financially. Robyn brought 4 mouths and debt, but somehow expected excitement. This was another huge move and uncertain future for those teens snd preteens. The only consistent thing in there lives was instability

[@Dawnsdelightsart]

100% he had watched all tge prior episodes and still backs Robyn. I wouldn't want him as a therapist

[@brite1217]

Yall are just as crazy as Robin! You know that, right?!! You think you know everything about this women based on a highly edited reality tv show. I’m not a fan of hers, but when she’s making a good point about Kody’s relationship with his kids, I’m gonna give her some credit. Doesn’t mean I’m celebrating her or falling for some act. It’s that I’m an actual adult who understands that being human is difficult and we all have good and bad sides. Your judgmental holier than though, high self praise belief in yourself and your opinions makes you just as narcissistic as Kody and Robin. Good job!

[@brite1217]

Dawn, he wouldn’t want you as a patient either

[@djtonja]

"Serving turkey and grabbin ass" 😂 putting that on an apron for my hubby to wear on Thanksgiving.

[@shawnmorymcmillion]

😂😂😂

[@MK-sx4nb]

😂

[@jeanetter2876]

I want that on an apron too!

[@jewels2799]

They missed the opportunity to do a "stuff the turkey " joke 😂

[@MommaHonu7]

The “knife in the kidney” fake over dramatization was more real than their argument here 😂

[@LPnerd]

I don't think either were fake, and that's even worse.

[@TheRachag]

Hoping these are fake it would be embarrassing if it was real!

[@dzeniseli]

Robyn and Kody’s actions speak louder than words. In a recent interview, Janelle and Christine revealed that Kody still has no relationship with his kids. And Robyn even messed up the one relationship she had - with Mykelti.

[@jackierouse9929]

@dzeniseli, what happened with/between Robyn and Mykelti?

[@patsyjayson8503]

When you're thinking Sobin is really trying to get Kody to reach out to his kids, just look at her home and the painting hanging on her wall, that's not a person that cares about the others kids that's a person knowly spent all the money didn't care if the other wives and their kids where taking care of. Like medical bills for their kids like Ysabel, Truely. Sobin is afraid that the money is going to stop and what she is thinking about with Kody.

[@beckyashwood8958]

@@patsyjayson8503, well that will stop soon! Christine is suing Grody for 4 yrs back child support for Truly and for half of Isabelle’s surgery. 🎉 I think it’s great!!!!

[@dzeniseli]

@@jackierouse9929 Mykelti said there were things that happened during Garrison's funeral that caused a rift between her and Robyn.

[@msmendes214]

When this was filmed Savannah was still 17, & Truly was around 11. Ysabelle was still a teen. He absolutely still had "kids" that needs their father to make huge attempts at reconciliation & a relationship. I'd argue even the young adults need an active father to help navigate this world. Also, yeah Kody looks horrendous in this scene

[@msmendes214]

Also I think it's a real conversation that they're probably rehashing, but I also think it's highly likely Robyn just saw the season with Gabe crying & Garrison arguing with their dad & she realized it was a bad look. She's beginning to see issues with Kody, albeit only in regards to the children (obviously, not the wives 😂)

[@maganalia]

@@msmendes214 Wow if it took that long for her to realize their behavior looks bad she must have had her head stuck somewhere.

[@killsa]

It was actually filmed Thanksgiving 2023 the rest of the season is 2022 but almost all their segments are recent. Several people from flagstaff said it didn't snow in 2022 around Thanksgiving because it was so mild. And the color of the coat hes wearing came out in 2023 and the game night Ari is CLEARLY preteen

[@killsa]

​@@msmendes214 I bet you are right about a real conversation that they are re creating!

[@msmendes214]

@@killsa they were referring to "last Thanksgiving" & included the footage from the 2021 yr with covid discussions. They referenced Madison being pregnant with her 3rd, which lines up with 2022. I can't image they'd skip a whole year

[@Nicola-ii7mm]

What is he wanting to do at thanksgiving??? 😂 Can the man not control himself for one afternoon?!

[@laneneal3510]

Nope! It causes him pain to be around the women and children that don’t acknowledge his leadership and obey it. He gets angry(actually the child in him wants to throw a tantrum)

[@mandicicalo5875]

I thought the same thing. So, he can’t be around others if he can’t control his urges? I’ve never heard this type of reasoning before. He makes excuses for his behavior as a way to deflect from mistreating others.

[@karenkaren707]

I know, I bet the kids at the house are scarred because he won’t get off her 😂

[@LizaS70]

He used to do that when they were all together in the past!! He couldn't show affection to one wife then!The good old days, remember??

[@sgtdaugh]

Cop a feel over the candy yams. They make him randy

[@loristone8860]

Someone pointed out that the jacket Kody is wearing wasn’t for sale until the autumn of 2023. So while some version of this fight may be real but it wasn’t filmed until at least late 2023 or later. So TLC may have asked them to *recreate* a fight they had previously filmed in 2022. It’s especially telling that he named almost all of his adult male children, except Garrison. I think TLC had to reshot this sequence to remove any negative statements made about Kody’s deceased son.

[@brendatruant7404]

Sorry, but I believe Garrison passed in winter 2024. Just 7 or 8 months ago. People seem to be getting to fennite on this discussion.

[@loristone8860]

@@brendatruant7404 Garrison died on March 5, 2024. There was still snow on the ground then. It possible that the scene was filmed earlier, but not before that particular winter jacket was available for sale. But it’s unlikely that scene, in that particular format, was filmed contemporary with the birth of Mykelti’s twins.

[@Jennifer_7600]

Interesting if true that the Robyn/Kody scene was a setup, but honestly, it’s a reality show on TLC for entertainment purposes only. We just have to accept that the producers pick and choose what we see, and what we don’t. They need to show us a compelling narrative, with some characters we love, and some we’re encouraged to hate. Which makes me wonder why on earth they all decide to keep filming! So even if this scene was re-created, or staged to make Robyn look better; this conversation doesn’t seem fake to me. I honestly believe that even if it was set up, it turned real very quickly. Otherwise Kody might have wanted to *not* come off as a total jackass once again. 🫤

[@mustangsallie]

​@@brendatruant7404 winter 2024 hasn’t even happened yet! He passed in March 2024 (technically still winter 2023 because official 1st day of spring was just a couple weeks away) was still snow on the ground in Utah then so it’s feasible it was filmed right after his death. Especially since according to some, Kodys coat he has on wasn’t available to buy until then.

[@Nicola-ii7mm]

I think this may be true. He looks desperate to get his ‘feel sorry for me’ message across but as usual he just screws it up because the stand he is making is just not normal!!

[@janeanhite2418]

If Robyn really cared the relationships would not have gotten this bad … Robyn sat back and let her kids benefit from the family while the other relationships with Kody crumbled

[@killsa]

We also know that present day allegedly she doesn't talk to even mykelti because of some thwt happend at Garrisons memorial service. I don't think she's as evil as Kody but she KNEW what she was doing she's just backpeddling because she's o disrespected now and that has to suck for anyone. But acting like she's concerned does not erase what we've all seen since episode 2

[@brite1217]

Better late than never they say… ppl can learn and change. That’s what we should want as human beings. But yall just want perfection from the get go like yall are perfect from the get go. Jesus maybe look inwards and judge yourself the way you judge Robyn

[@deehente8530]

@@killsa I read that either Kody, Robyn or both talked about Garrison's life insurance and sale of his house at one of the funeral services and stated that Kody should get half of the money from those things. Mykelti was not happy about that and it changed her perspective on Kody and Robyn. How vile do you have to be to discuss money from the loss of your son at his funeral. I suspect it was the private family funeral as at the military one, Mykelti was sitting on the left side of the aisle and not looking too happy.

[@killsa]

@deehente8530 wow if that's true that's deplorable

[@LPnerd]

not robins responcebility to fix Kody's relationship with his other wives. In fact, Her trying to fix Kody and Meri is what really pissed Christine off.

[@cathywithac]

This was not a fight. This was a Kody tantrum with Robyn 'momming' him to de-escalate. Kody is not listening to Robyn. He is ego-broken, not heartbroken. He is manipulating Robyn. The subtext is, “I gave up everyone for you and you don’t appreciate it!” Also paraphrased, “This has hurt US more than it has hurt THEM (aka THESE PEOPLE). I want to work on US first. You are the person I love most in the world." Kody did not take in a word Robyn said about any of his kids needing him or working on his relationships. Robyn is distracted by him refocusing on her. Robyn enabled him yet again. Has Robyn figured out that Kody could turn on her kids next?

[@jamikirby7854]

When Robyn tries to take the kids side, he reminds her how mean they were to him. He has to get her back on his side and, she does.

[@mindyd952]

THIS!!! Exactly!

[@katieg.9235]

You hit the nail on the head. Notice she never tells him to take any responsibility!

[@MEmyselfAndMeowfia]

I’ve never seen a comment more on point than this! 👌

[@avp6730]

Probably she sees this coming to her kids so she's trying to change him before her turn comes

[@Mgmb1123]

I distinctly remember Meri asking if she should invite all the kids for Christmas Eve and Robyn saying NO!

[@UnPluggingThePlayer]

And Robyn refused to group text the kids instead of engage in adult parental communication. Now R says she'll talk to them. Do these people not think that it's on film? Or do they just think viewers will forget... like they do.

[@heatherprice2387]

To believe that Robyn was being genuine in this discussion and really wanted to mend the fences with the kids we'd have to forget that she spent the last 2 years convincing Kody that the kids were unsafe. She convinced Kody that the kids were "unsafe" to be around. Convinced Meri to not have Christmas at her house and inviting everyone because it wasn't "safe." She was contributing participant of this demise with the kids. This is the Robyn redemption tour.

[@m2c175]

But… she can afford to be magnanimous now, she’s won. It isn’t even a contest anymore. She gets the points for being selfless without having the risk of losing. If he ever really started building relationships again that threaten her position, she can start the subvert campaigns again. This tactic is how she ‘won’.

[@annaskov5723]

I don't think it matters whether this is staged or if Robyn is actually pushing Kody to talk to his kids. The important part is what Kody is saying, which is consistent with past statements and behavior. My read of what he's saying is that Kody is incapable of listening to his kids explain how his actions have hurt them and trying to actually work it out

[@Fuzzyedgz]

Exactly!

[@Jennifer_7600]

Spot on!👌

[@loumac8270]

Good point!

[@brite1217]

Yep!!! She’s trying even if it’s fake, she trying. He will never try.

[@laneneal3510]

Yep

[@Carlosthepoolguy]

I wouldn’t allow one episode to sway your view of Robyn when there’s years of seasons, episodes where she was actually rude to the kids in addition to monopolizing Kodys time. If she had a track record of trying to make things better I’d agree with you.

[@jenopolis9227]

At this time in real life, two things: season 17 started airing and all the very awful things Kody was saying about the kids started coming out publicly. At the same time, the kids were coming out and speaking-- Gwen had a patreon, Paedon had the John Yates interview... This scene is likely real panic from Robyn because she is scared the kids are going to come out and ruin their ability to make money from the show. But she is FAKE in her concern for any of these kids. She never called anyone first, for 12 years!! Don't believe her stupid hype, she is trying to get him to talk to kids so they don't ruin their show. Also, KODY sucks and is the worst Dad. But Robyn is a big party in disconnecting him from all of those kids for many years.

[@onmike7944]

Ugh. John Yates sucks.

[@pigz4prez]

Yes, this screams "damage control." I think Robyn is less delusional about how viewers will interpret things and doesn't want to be so hated.

[@maganalia]

Exactly!

[@maganalia]

@@pigz4prez Bit late I reckon.

[@jananderson5712]

I think the argument was fake, I think Kody would do anything to make Robyn look good even if it meant he didn’t come out looking good.

[@JaymieJaymieFrederick]

Robyn has shown us who she is. For years she has manipulated Kody, the wives, and the children. Kody fell on his sword for Robyn in this episode because he knows he needs to make Robyn more palatable to the kids for any future relationship with them. The we don’t like Robyn domino has to fall in order for him to make any inroads with them. Just 1 episode ago Robyn was confused as to why Janelle thinks she should get the money she contributed to Robyn’s house back. This is just the tip of the iceberg of why the kids are totally on their mom’s side. Robyn expects them to eat their scraps, and one conversation like this isn’t going to redeem her. I will believe these two when they acknowledge what they have done to the rest of the family, and attempt to redeem themselves to those they have wronged. And oh by the way, the Covid rules were Robyn’s. Kody was asking her permission to do things like ask Meri over. He feared Robyn wouldn’t allow him back in after Janelle’s mom’s funeral. She had a nanny coming in daily, who eventually gave them Covid, but she didn’t seem to see the hypocrisy in that. Thousands of clues into Robyn’s mind over the years show her character. The UK version of the show has less edits, and it was Robyn spewing about her kids loyalty, which was a backhanded slur on the kids, same episode.

[@GrannyDi276]

The nanny contracted covid, but the family didn't get it at that time.....they actually caught covid from Breanna who contracted it at school❤

[@Lady.Scorpio7]

Couldn't have said it better myself. It's astounding to me that Robyn sputters out a few rehearsed lines and POOF she's a changed person. How gullible are some people!!

[@2enjoy1]

💯🎯

[@ginah.6243]

Buffoon is a perfect description of Kody.

[@Sjussmee]

That's actually a kind take...

[@ginah.6243]

@@Sjussmee it's an insult to a buffoon. 😂

[@lauranewcomer170]

Baboon might be better...

[@Lilbopprrr]

Allison asking, 'What is your work? Your work is the show, and I'm pretty sure they would follow you over there' wins the Internet today! 😂😂😂

[@elizabethgulley7044]

Please remember that when Robbem couldn’t control the Christmas gift exchange face time, she told Mykelti to tell the kids there would be no Gift exchange and she didn’t want to have anything to do with them. This is playacting to make Robbem look good. Not working. They also never film inside of Janelle and Meri’s house!!! They have stolen money. They are not good or kind.

[@pippiecarr9378]

David thinks the OG kids were in the wrong over the gift exchange. He said they should have done what Robyn asked. He wanted Maddie, who just had a baby to sit up and wait until Robyn decided it was acceptable to call. He's been team Robyn from the beginning. It's because men can't see women as manipulators who need 100% control. And, will hurt people, including children to get what they want, and not care that they behaved that way.

[@Sail392]

@@pippiecarr9378He doesn’t give Christine or Meri the same benefit of the doubt.

[@NM-ub6ml]

Yes... I don't get why he can't see robyns actions and words don't match up... and then he puts an immense onus on Christine and janelke to always act and facilitate relationships but not on robyn and kody. It is bizarre. Robyns a nightmare.

[@charmanwilson6354]

How is this guy a therapist but doesn’t see that Robyn knows what to say in front of the camera but does not behave that way when cameras are not around. Why does he believe Robyn over about 20 other people?????

[@Sail392]

Y’all saw the one where Meri wanted to invite Janelle’s kids to her house for Christmas Eve and Robyn said NO? Bc there might be fiiiiiiighting. When Robyn wanted Easter she said she’d go to her mom’s for Easter and then the Browns had Easter. If she wanted him to talk to his kids, he’d talk to his kids.

[@cmbarrineau1]

I literally just watched that episode not 3hrs ago and Robyn didn't say that. Meri felt like she was caught in the middle and didn't want to invite everybody cause of what was going on and then Robyn said that there might be fighting. She didn't say no.

[@maganalia]

I agree with Allison. Robyn talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. I wonder if she ever called one of the kids, besides Mykelti. Kody and Robyn don't want the OG kids around their family because they may clue them into what's really been happening.

[@Ubepati]

How many times has Robyn's kids been to family events since covid, Christmas gift exchange, second Christmas, Mykelti's baby sprinkle, Logan's wedding. Even Mykelti said that she has had many attempts to see them without their parents and it never happened for some reason!! Robyn has continuously separated the kids from everyone else!!! As for Kody he expects the kids to just pretend like nothing happened and apologize to him for "betraying" him!!

[@janeanhite2418]

The OG13 kids are not safe 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@jojolina7]

I felt it too. After hearing from Mykelti clearly nothing is better and his words in this episode has made everything worse. Very sad.

[@betsybabf748]

No one was saying Kody and TLC scripted it. All are saying Robyn is playing a part to make herself look better. If she genuinely cared about his relationships with his kids, she wouldn't have done everything she has done since she entered the family. Robyn also took her own kids from their father so is that really a concern for her?

[@MelissaKitto525]

This!!!

[@charmanwilson6354]

EXACTLY!!! I love this comment. I wish this therapist would have an open mind and stop believing Robyn over EVERYONE else in the family.

[@judimaus]

Kody didn't take in concideration that, in monogamy, you can't run away to another wife and stay there until you feel "Safe" again.

[@SaguaroBlossom]

Kody is complaining that Maddie moved her family to the opposite coast, saying THAT'S why he can't be involved and go visit her. Um, they do have these ~magical~ things nowadays called "video calls." Most phones can do them and Kody is tech savvy enough to figure it out for total strangers when money is involved. 🙄

[@lstarsabb]

The thing is he was the one that moved first.

[@kendrajohnson9049]

You guys listing the "wrongs" sent me through the floor!!💯🤣🤣😭😭

[@apriljones2950]

That was hilarious. I wanted them to keep going with the list.😂

[@kendrajohnson9049]

@@apriljones2950 There's so much more💯😂🤣😭

[@cindyspoor1020]

BRILLIANT IDEA!!! Hopefully Kody will watch it because he seems to have caught Robyn's "confused" virus!

[@tracey4385]

Some people are saying the scene was filmed more recently to make Robyn look better after Garrison passing. They looked up Kody's coat which came out in 2023.

[@womanonthinice1276]

Yeah but Robyn told the kids thru Mykalti that she didn't want to have anything to do with them. Remember how Robyn cut them off for the gift exchange. Also, this was during the time when Gwen and Paedon were on social media telling their truths about Kody and Robyn and Kody wanted TLC to have them sign agreement that the kids could not speak against him or Robyn. Robyn wanted Kody to get those kids to shut up. This was all about K&R to stop the negative exposure they were getting. That's all R wanted, shut them up. Go back to what was happening outside the show. They use the show to set a defense. Fake Fake Fake

[@dbeecooks]

"Servin' turkey and grabbin' ass..." 😂 I love watching you two dissecting the latest Sister Wives episode.

[@c.s.s.8117]

Made me laugh so hard!

[@youtubeismytimemachine5917]

This fight may have occurred and is being reenacted for television. Robyn is not sincere because her past actions, as recently as season 18 indicate she didn't care about his relationships with his kids. Robyn is pushing this because of the backlash they have both received.

[@SRayn2012]

The question should be: Why is Robyn saying this now? This is supposedly happening after Robyn said her kids didn’t feel “safe” enough to participate in the Christmas exchange. Robyn has shown as long as she and her kids are taken care of, she really doesn’t care about Kody’s interactions with anyone else. This convo is so out of place and makes no sense given Robyn’s history.

[@kungfumind.]

The biggest issue is that Kody has a "You're either with me or against me." mentality. Everyone's the enemy outlook and the victimhood is legendary. There's no repairing that mentality. He's far gone!

[@bbearsmama]

Very true! He doesn’t understand that no one needs to pick sides. That’s *his* “battle” if he chooses to see it that way but nobody else has a duty to pick a side on your behalf. That’s what mature adults do when separation/divorce occurs. They try their best to keep the kids from feeling like they have to choose a side.

[@jblkcns]

Who among us has not had an argument but waited to shovel out a rectangle to stand on first.

[@barrydawn30]

Dr. David, oh ye of poor memory, did you forget Robyn told Mykelti to tell everyone she wanted no contact after the Christmas text message fiasco?

[@Antibeautyguru]

That’s not what she said. She said that she didn’t feel that situation was safe for her kids which was still dumb but let’s not act like she cut them off forever there. It was clearly a situation that she felt was for a time which was still messed up.

[@sandragill9916]

Remember she would not let the kids come over for Xmas etc and she took her kids away from Thier father

[@DTMVwithReba]

They can’t even get the script right. Definitely a fake argument made to redeem sobbins reputation.

[@gillianchanga-nj4lm]

The shoveled bit of snow is the best. And don’t forget Robyn did everything to keep her three children close to their dad- not!

[@owencorbett296]

The fight was fake!

[@lindorini]

4 sure!

[@lizsanchez2276]

Totally staged. Neither is acting naturally it’s like watching a school play. As far as Robyn watch Ysabel crying over her father asking why and Robyn didn’t want him leaving her two youngest that’s not someone that cares.

[@barbn1211]

100%

[@NatNat4Tally]

Plus we got another, "stab in the kidney" bad acting moment from Kody. When he said, "I'm going out of my mind." I'm like OK, here we go again. And Robin strategically meets him outside to talk. They only show the inside of their house anymore when their flashing back. It's weird.

[@peggyw5279]

Totally

[@sashas3332]

They shoveled a square to stand in lol

[@lori1508]

This scene outside with Robyn and Kody did not happen in 2022. This scene happened after Garrison passing. It has been proven that the coat (color) was not available in 2022. As was the scene with them playing jenga. Arry is much older in that scene.

[@kristinmullins6896]

She also enables him by never sticking it out with holding him accountable in full. She always says well he did this because he’s hurting. A lot of people go through pain and don’t verbally and emotionally abuse their family

[@kimapel1528]

Exactly!

[@maureenmiller-delisle2505]

He looks stupid because he is and a bad actor! Why all of a sudden is Robyn so concerned about the OG13 now she never was before! She didn’t care about her own children’s relationship with their biological father! So so scripted and fake! How can you not see this? Mind boggling

[@Jennifer_7600]

Well, we have to remember that this is a “reality” show for entertainment purposes only; and that the producers get to pick and choose what we see, and what we don’t. I’ve honestly never gotten a vibe (or seen a clip) that Robyn didn’t care about all the kids. Or that she was *intentionally* undermining the entire family dynamic. And I’ve watched the entire series twice!! 🙈 TLC has subtly encouraged viewers to despise her over the years, because a compelling show needs heroes and villains. I’m just emphasizing that we really don’t know the whole story (of Robyn). I’ve always felt kind of sorry for her, flawed as she is. One thing we know for sure though is that Kody is a complete and utter jackass narcissist. That’s really all we know.

[@Lady.Scorpio7]

​@@Jennifer_7600Well I believe Kody's children, Janelle and Christine over Robyn. Robyn is a compulsive liar. She has no relationship with his kids, she has never treated them like they're her own. She has done nothing but cause problems since day one. It's shocking that some people are falling for her fake performance. Her actions speak louder than her words. What is there to feel sorry for? She hogged all of Kody's time, her kids got him 24/7, she spent all of the resources on herself and her kids, knowing he had 13 other children and 3 other wives he was neglecting. She didn't give a shit and she doesn't now.

[@Jennifer_7600]

@@Lady.Scorpio7 But can you point to actual clips from the show that demonstrate *Robyn* saying or doing any of these monstrous things? That’s what I’m getting at… we only hear the negative stuff from everyone else… while the only one we see truly, desperately trying to save the family and Kody’s relationship with his children and other wives, is Robyn. She’s absolutely, 100% misguided in her attempts, but it’s not Robyn maliciously pulling the strings, it’s Kody. She’s just his mouthpiece. Which isn’t ok; she’s just deluded. And she has always been there for Mykelti, especially recently when the twins were born… I just think everyone hates her because she defends Kody. Which yeah, does not make her an endearing character, but does explain that she’s just a vulnerable cult-follower. 😕

[@jenniferscoles3429]

I absolutely agree

[@Lorisa25]

My favourite thing about this video is how much you clearly love your wife

[@bkbgr]

This outside conversation (and WHY do this outside?j felt 100% rehearsed to me.

[@j.johnson7296]

Because they didn’t want everyone to see all the paintings and trinkets they have wasted their money on. They don’t want the OG 3 to know and want their share of the cash value of everything. They don’t want fans of the show to hate them more too.

[@AnnieW-b4o]

Cody pulls up and Robyn comes out right away all dressed in hat, coat, snow boots gloves. anyone who lives in a cold climate knows it takes more than 5 seconds to get all that gear on. Fake fake

[@kimberlied1631]

I LOVE how she calls you out for not fighting the way you are saying they should. 😂😂😂

[@mindajane]

David asked why they would make Kody looked so stupid, Kody does that all on his own. I think they know there is no saving his image but they were still hoping to save Robyn's. Her words say one thing but her actions say another. Even in this conversation, he says he wants to work on their marriage and put the other on the back burner and she says "That's what I want to hear." Also when the Chritmas text crap happened, she did the same thing as Kody. People got upset and instead of trying to have a conversation with them and figure it out, she just shut down and refused to continue to talk to them. She's not reaching out either. She's not trying to fix her relationshipw ith any of them either. That's why I think the fight was staged.

[@theresadavis5440]

Kody and Robin went to the Acme School of Emoting. They worked hard on that scene.

[@loriboyce942]

Scene-in-a-box

[@sinfulsympathy]

I think if it was real it wouldn't have been on camera.

[@jenrae-w7w]

ROBYN used her time on screen to throw in there "they are misguided" the kids only heard what moms were saying about you kody" ugh.... I give Robyn no pity. She is a BIG PLAYER in this.

[@LittleKikiBear]

The reason we don't believe Robyn is because we've watched the show from the beginning.

[@debbiepatton9593]

Some people looked into the timing of this fight. They established that the coat he’s wearing didn’t come out till 2023. 16:02 This was filmed after Garrisons death so it’s just a way for her to make herself look better.

[@deehente8530]

I really believe this argument was set up because Robyn and Kody both have said that Robyn has been trying to get Kody to contact the kids. But there was no footage of that, so this now provides that footage. I don't think any of it is real. Actions speak louder than words and Robyn might have the right words, but she doesn't have the matching actions. And just to add to the list with what Kody did wrong: Napping while Christine was taking Truely to the doctor, not paying for any of Truely's medical care, kissing Robyn and visiting her while Christine was in labor, forgetting Gabe's birthday - and then also not calling Mykelti on her birthday, taking Aurora to get her ears pierced (fake, they already were you can see in previous episodes) and not even know when or if any of his other girls had that done, not being father enough to even have a 'comfortable' hug with Truely on her last night in Flagstaff, thinking Ysabel's 18th birthday was her 17th, thinking Truely was younger than she was and Christine having to tell him, replacing his wedding ring from the 4 wives with the horse ring BEFORE he and Christine separated - you can watch that footage of Christine and him at Christine's table when she says she doesn't want to be married to him anymore - he is already wearing that ring on his left hand - oh and having a 'matching' ring for Robyn, NOT BEING involved with Janelle's housing at all, buying a house for Robyn while Janelle is in small apartments or an RV, not calling Savannah on Christmas, not getting Savannah any presents and not inviting Savannah over for the Christmas celebration when Truely and Ysabel were in town - when Savannah did nothing to him - all to punish Janelle. There is more - but I just wanted to add to the list.

[@juststacey5771]

This shows me that Robyn KNOWS what is right and what is wrong. But, over the years, her actions have not matched her words. She only cares when it benefits her.

[@just_a_smalltowngirl585]

🎯

[@SaguaroBlossom]

Kody is SPECIFICALLY ignoring the fact that Caleb and Maddie moved to Vegas *specifically* to be near Kody and the family, but then Kody forced the wives to move to Flagstaff. I think he wanted Caleb and Maddie to follow them to Flagstaff. He basically tried to establish their own family group to follow them around, but that wasn't going to happen. Caleb and Maddie were very open to him initially, but he basically tried to control them so they did what they needed to *protect* their family, but were still open to some contact, for the sake of their kids. Too bad for Kody😢 if he doesn't like the consequences of his own actions.

[@julchenaufdermauer1333]

Well, there are enough example where Robyn was not so nice to the kids, for example calling Hunter out on national television because he wasn't overjoyed about her pregnancy when the move to Vegas made him really depressed

[@Thatsmyshoe]

Maybe they should try Flagstaff community theater.

[@Hazel-bz5bp]

They wouldn’t get the part. The acting was atrocious. Total second hand embarrassment when Kody tried to cry 😅

[@GrannyDi276]

😂😂😂

[@shawnmorymcmillion]

😂😂😂

[@Jennifer_7600]

It’s utterly breathtaking that Kody still can’t acknowledge the truth even when Robyn is pleading with him to see it. But I honestly believe Kody’s narcissistic brain is wired such that he is *incapable* of empathy for others. He’s an automaton, and programmed to be self-interested at all costs, even in the tragic wake of his child dying by suicide. Absolute proof that Kody’s incapable of changing.

[@jec8of]

Didn't go to Isobel's surgery Tried to get Janelle to throw out her sons during a pandemic Lied to Meri about getting back together to get the money from her house in Las Vegas Melted the ring Meri gave him Moved the entire family to Flagstaff for the sake of Robyn's son regardless of the hardship on some of the older OG3 children Went all out for Robyn's children for Christmas but couldn't even call Savannah Had Truly, Isobel and Mykelti over for 2nd Christmas but didn't invite Savannah Didn't allow Meri to take care of Sol and Ari even though she had been quarantined for weeks Didn't acknowledge Gabe's birthday during the call on his birthday

[@charmanwilson6354]

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! Such good points!

[@laneneal3510]

Everything you’ve said about Kody is correct. Robyn is just trying to redeem herself. Why didn’t she see that the kids needed him during Covid. Why now? Cuz she sees how hated she is. It’s all about Kody. He truly believes they betrayed him. He does not get what he did wrong. He will have an excuse for everything he did. He reacts to their reaction but doesn’t take accountability for what he said or did to them to make them lash back. He only reacts to their flashback and says, what did I do to deserve that?! Typical narcissist.

[@hop775]

I think the fight was real, at least the direction it took and the feelings it brought up. It also felt like at a certain point Robyn switched over to placating because of how Kody was spinning it all.

[@jae6335]

Kody is so childish. It is like middle-schooler who, when he is not getting you to agree with him, says, "You should hear what she said about you!"

[@bbearsmama]

True. He so badly wants everyone to pick sides (or rather his side).

[@jae6335]

@@bbearsmama , yep!

[@kellywilliams4813]

Kody is incapable of recognizing how he really looks to others

[@maganalia]

Yep he probably calls us all losers.

[@bizburgess1947]

Dont forget to watch the episodes where Robbin gets to tear down her original 3 kids father and fights to removal his custodial rights. That's how much she believes in the kids having a relationship with their father. The one time the kids get to see their father they are excited both before and after that visit. We have no one but Robbyn claiming he was not a good father. We can all see she is low level mother btw her need for constant help to care for just 3 kids and treating adult children like infants. The other family couldn't visit during covid but the Nanny came and went daily.

[@marikamoreau8828]

"I feel like we helped!" 😂😂💀💀 Also, my narcissist ex would also very proudly proclaim that he wouldn't "canp out on their door step" or "chase anyone". Left him without any friends or (finally) girlfriend. Even in the beginning I would quietly think to myself "but don't you want to be friends?". I never understood why people have such a hard time taking the blame in order to resolve an issue. I don't care if I'm at fault at not, if the relationship is important enough. But he just simply couldn't take any responsibility for anything.

[@AshleahShortcake]

Yall they were literally fighting on a shoveled area of pre-shoveled snow! How can you even think this is genuine?? Not only did Robs makes this all about HERSELF and her pain, it wasn't about the OG kids being neglected, it wasn't about their pain, it was about her. Then Robs claims she's so upset over Kody not being a dad that she's "losing respect" for him yet Kody says let's forget all that and work on us and she says "thank you for that" and drops it?? Then what was the whole point of this "fight" then?? TLC is dropping clues for us about who these two clowns are, which is why they panned out to show us the shoveled patch they were standing in.

[@TakeAwayRenee]

To clear up a misunderstanding on the redemption arc theory, Robyn is only in cahoots with herself on this one in my opinion. She’s played a calculated game since Day One. No way she’s stopping now. She sees Christine with a new guy … errr I mean .. MAN!! Jenelle and Christine about to get their OWN show!!! And all she got was “this stupid polygamist and highly mortgaged McMansion. She’s scrambling!!! 😂😂😂

[@shawnmorymcmillion]

You KNOW that she’s JEALOUS AF over Christine and David’s gorgeous we, beautiful love story, and the lovely new home David and Christine are buying in Utah! Janelle’s new venture with Maddie and her husband was so popular and supported by thousands of people on just their first day’s Tshirt launch that the Taeda Farms website crashed and they sold more t-shirts in one day that a decade of Robyn’s crappy, creepy, badly designed overpriced jewelry did in a DECADE! Robyn only sees green right now: green with envy and her schemes of how she can get her greedy conniving claws on Janelle’s money! BABY, THAT boat has SAILED!

[@christinestewart289]

Robyn didn’t want to take the offer to live in the main house in Lehi, Utah. Janelle said she’d split her area. Robyn said No and cost the family lots of $$$ and they lived separately. She didn’t make the kids feel comfortable at her home. She didn’t allow the kids to open her refrigerator.. she kept Kody from his kids when in need .. Robyn from the beginning manipulated his time and money!! This was a fake arrangement! Not a real discussion at all.

[@merlinshouseoffreereadings4641]

I don’t know the space - but I feel like meri should have been able to share.

[@deniselevesque9464]

At best, it was a reenactment of a previous argument and loosely interpreted to make Robyn look less awful. Given this was 2 years ago, and we know as of today there's been no reconciliation and plenty of happy K and R out and about photos. Clearly, Robyn didn't lose much, if any respect for K. It's b.s.

[@loriru3135]

If you look at the length of Cody’s hair, and the ages of the small children, it will show that they are shooting scenes now, after Garrison’s death, to rewrite history, and perhaps give Robin cover…in my opinion. They are also showing clips out of order, again to rewrite history…”allegedly”.

[@artbylesleymilne]

I never thought it was scripted or fake, but I still think that Robyn's words are manipulative. Just the things she says like, "what the kids have been told' etc. She wants to try and rid herself of her evil stepmother role. That's why Kody looked so confused half the time because he's being gaslit by a master. Not that he's blameless, but he really seems to be living in his own world.

[@cathywithac]

Robyn ‘forgets’ that she tore her 3 kids away from their bio-dad and had his parental rights terminated. If Robyn feels it’s so damaging to Kody’s kids that he is not involved in their lives, the same way that her bio-dad was not involved in hers, why did she move mountains to remove her kids’ own bio-dad from their lives?! Robyn did to her kids EXACTLY what her mom did to her. She made a conscious decision to sever the relationship between bio-dad and kids. Robyn confronted her dad once about his neglect and he made a “bunch of lame excuses. It sucked.” Just like Kody’s lame excuses suck today. Why did Robyn do it? Because it was all about her. Kody said that he would not marry a woman who left a 'good man' so she villainized her ex. She sacrificed her kids' relationship with their bio-dad to be with Kody. Through their own actions, Robyn and Kody taught the OG3 kids that bio-dads are optional/expendable in their lives. FYI: By all accounts, her ex is a good man. Dayton has reconnected with him. IMHO, Robyn is 15 years too late to be the person to advocate for a good relationship between bio-dad and kids. This generational abuse has got to end here. I understand Maddie (and now Mykelti) putting distance between Kody and her kids.

[@zoeann1221]

I think this conversation DID happen, but I think it happened WAY later than what TLC makes everyone think. This did not happen in 2022. I think this happened in 2024…after Garrisons passing to show their “other side”… especially Robin and trying to make her look good in showing “actively” pushing Kody to interact with his kids.

[@maryspry21]

This scene was filmed after Harrison's passing and inserted here in an attempt to rewrite history and make it appear robin was trying to encourage him to fix relationships. The truth that we saw was that she considered the other kids "unsafe" and Gabe said she feels her and her kids were mistreated be them and she demanded an apology. Someone contacted the Kuhl jacket manufacturer of the jacket he's wearing and it was not available until 2023.

[@maryspry21]

This was the response from Kuhl: "Deep pond/dark khaki was a seasonal colorway in multiple jackets created for our fall of 2023 line. The jacket in the photos you provided is The Stretch Voyager jacket. The Stretch Voyager jacket In deep pond/dark khaki could have been purchased In August of 2023 or later from our website. It's also possible the jacket could have been purchased from one of our retailers sometime starting in June of 2023. The jacket was not available to the public In 2022."

[@kimgage4354]

I think the fight is real in the sense that it happened. I believe they reenacted it for the camera. Coty honestly thought people would take his side.

[@Kairo4402]

Kodys wording of the kids saying I wouldn't talk to you again anyways sounds like he sent a text with an ultimatum and they were like nah bro lol

[@irisbeard2413]

Ya'll don't want to see Robyn's fault. Remember, Robyn and the text thread, remember Robyn telling her kids that the rest of the family don't want to have Thanksgiving with them. Robyn manipulated to keep Kody to herself and that impacted the wives and the other kids. She does not get a free pass because this one time she pushes back on Kody. Let's be real, she didn't push back that hard. Wasn't this supposed to be from Dec 2022? He still doesn't have a relationship with the kids so how hard did she really try.

[@bernadettestrickland7877]

A parent's love for their children should be unconditional

[@MK-sx4nb]

Agreed. Cody gave up on his kids when he gave up on his wives.

[@LouisGonzalez-py1zd]

This is a Robyn redemption act. Remember she insisted that his children by his other wives weren’t safe. Also Robyn alienated her own children from their father. So this is all BS.

[@MrKizzlerk1]

David, do you film this the middle of the night? Allison always looks like she’s falling asleep in every single one of your videos. 😂

[@mamabear1324]

Robyn wanted to look good for her audience and the kids. She wanted to look like the good guy. Thats my gut reaction. Wĥy do this on camera.

[@leestanyer7300]

I agree because when it comes time to have the kids over she doesn't want to cause it's not safe Its ok to protect her kids so they don't go to anything to be part of a family event and tells them they aren't liked It was just words in my opinion and she does nothing to try and make it happen

[@abigale1972]

I believe this was filmed after Garrison’s death. Look at the shoveled squad they’re standing in. This was scripted to attempt to redeem Robin. As for her dad, why did she remove their father from their lives if she can empathize with the trauma of having an absent father.

[@wvgall]

Yes!!! Let’s not forget Meri wanted to host a Christmas gathering and Robyn said no. Robyn sent word by Logan and Mykelti she would never speak to those kids again

[@wvgall]

And the ladies on the threads proved Kody’s jacket was not available until sept 2023

[@ninjakitty4816]

If you look up the jacket Cody is wearing you find out that that particular jacket came out in the spring of 2023 meaning the fight scene was staged AFTER Garrison had passed away

[@yourchristianbookkeeper]

For the cameras she is saying the right things. Doesn’t mean her actions match her words. My grandparents said all the right things, did nothing to back it up. So no, Robyn gets no credit until she backs it up.

[@juliezaukas9670]

This is the first time I noticed a certain dynamic between Kody and Robyn. She brings up an issue and he gets all defensive about how he's been wronged. When she doesn't bend he switches it to how SHE has been mistreated by the people he's mad at. That's an absolute method of manipulation to bring her over to his side.

[@FragileLikeNitro]

Yup

[@denisebrown4933]

This is the conversation that viewers will harken back to when the Garrison episodes come up. I think the editors don't like Kody anymore than anyone else does.

[@dramallamamama]

Do you remember when Meri asked Robyn if she was inviting the kids to the house for Christmas when Kody was demanding a conversation and Robyn said NO?!!!

[@Angelface11]

His kids all say that he was always at Robyns since marrying her

[@mayahdoss7050]

Kody's jacket didn't come out until Sept 2023. This was supposedly filmed in 2022. It also didn't snow after Thanksgiving that year.

[@patriciamorgan7308]

I believe when the trailer came out you two thought the clips of Robyn's BS convo were very obviously fake. Interesting to see the change.... Especially because we know Kody and Robyn still have nothing to do with his kids, ROBYN included. If she really felt like his kids needed their dad and she was losing respect for him, she should be gone or reaching out to those kids herself. She can sit on their doorsteps if she wants "the family" so bad.

[@laurenm3689]

I can't believe some people actually thought that "fight" was real and Robyn was being sincere. Her actions since her first coming in the family says totally different. I have ALWAYS belueved actions over words. Maybe Robyn sees how much peiple despise her and she's trying to save face....I don't kniw, but she and Kody have conquered and divided that entire family. Also, why is she JUST now bringing up her dad abandoning her? If she was worried about Kody doing that to his kids, she would have said this to him YEARS ago. She was fine with it when it benefited her and her kids.

[@JMP829]

No matter whether Robyn is or isn’t being fake in this scene, having to put up with Kody has to be exhausting.

[@debsk734]

So what type of man would think he is entitled to 4 wives? A narcissist, that’s who. And having all those children, he expects the wives to be the parent and thinks that’s an excuse for being a shitty dad. Why would the children respect such a douche?

[@HeyyyRobyn]

I enjoyed the game of what Kody’s done wrong wayyyyy too much 😂😂😂😂