Love this new sub segment 'New Vs Old'! Very interesting to compare technological advancements over the years!
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
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@theofilosgavriil82243 жыл бұрын
i think you made the best video you have ever done so far with these two truly beautiful Porsches'!!!!!!!!
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much please recommend 😎
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
00:00 Acceleration Porsche 718 Boxster 4.0 00:11 Sound check 986 vs 718 Boxster 00:22 Exterior 986 vs 718 00:54 Thomas at 12 years old 01:46 First Boxster generation 02:20 718 Special Edition 25 years 02:37 Side comparison 04:04 Rear and engine comparison 05:11 Roof test and interior 986 06:40 Infotainment system retrofit 07:58 Roof test and interior 718 09:57 Trunk comparison 10:58 Fresh air season 11:43 Driving 986 Boxster 17:25 Driving 718 Boxster 4.0 22:27 Boxster 25 years exhibition Porsche Museum 25:16 Conclusion
@chrispyy6060606063 жыл бұрын
Love the retro elements in the special edition.
@dolph76563 жыл бұрын
Unfair!!! To be honest I own a 2002 Boxster S. However, if you want to compare a current Boxster GTS to a 986 you should compare it to a 986 Boxster S manual. 0-60 in 5.6 sec a more sporty suspension and 18 inch wheels is a much more fair comparison. Maybe your conclusion would be the same but I think it would be much closer. Otherwise a great video and enjoyed watching it very much.
@littlsuprstr3 жыл бұрын
the 718 really matured handsomely like thomas.
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
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@haleohanamalama29673 жыл бұрын
That telephone looks so cool... Instantly you’ll become a CEO! Would be a perfect phone for Christian Bale in American psycho~ 😁
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
😂
@RM-ep2dc3 жыл бұрын
A Boxster for over 100k. I think i spyder.
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@luisluiscunha2 жыл бұрын
The 986 is the most beautiful Porsche ever made, and the one Ferdinand would love the most, I am sure. It saved Porsche, by the way. But what's the importance of that small detail? Also, the 986 was already irritating for snobs when introduced ("the poors man Porsche" ). Imagine now, when a person who didn't become poor, can put a part of the profits he/she made from clever investments into buying a 986 for some 10k, repairs included.
@slaWterCH3 жыл бұрын
I truly have a thing for silver mid-engined Porsches! I'm going to enjoy this one!
@adamglus10753 жыл бұрын
Very good video 😃😁 I love Porsche 🚗👍
@wildwest54363 жыл бұрын
I remember in 1994 in Germany, when I first saw the Boxster on the Autobahn Porsche was testing the performance with a flat black 986 with wires and test probes all over it. They pulled over at a gas station and so did I in an Army Humvee. I asked the Porsche Driver if he wants to trade cars! He laughed and simply said...Nein Danke.
@Miricadeadshot3 жыл бұрын
you are the nicest man on the planet and the man with 0 haters . Big likes for your work!
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
thanks so much please recommend =)
@manfromanotherplace25483 жыл бұрын
I' ll take the 986. It is close now to be a classic. But the 16" wheels must be replaced by 18" original Porsche ones. THEN the shape of the 986 really works. Sure, the 718 is quicker and perhaps more easy for everyday driving, but it is a car that does the driving for you. All that computer nonsens drives me mad. I want to drive myself! And then remember....the 718 is 4 cyl. The 986 is a 6 cyl. A 6 cyl is the real thing for..well...everything. But of course the 986 MUST be a manual! 4-5 years from now and the 986 will begin to rise in price.
@colors66923 жыл бұрын
Love the red interior and I would take the 718!
@johanneswergeland40242 жыл бұрын
Of course the 718 is better than the 986. It is brand new, and has a 25 year technological advantage..! In all fairness though, the 718 should have been compared against the 986 Boxster S with the 3.2 liter engine and the manual gearbox, which was the sportier alternative. All in all I agree that the 718 is the best car, but I think a 986 Boxster S offers provides more value for the money. Almost as fun, at just a fraction of the price of a 718..! 🙂
@vincefries Жыл бұрын
I own a 986 from 1997, arctic silver with red interior and 17" OEM wheels (better look than 16" and still confortable)...some great options like M030 sport chassis and Limited Slip Differential. It is a delicious car to drive. Personally I appreciate to stay in the analog atmosphere with the original Becker radio compared to the new connected option. For 2.5 owners, I do not recommend 18" wheels (not recommended by Porsche also). Great video @autogefuhl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@ClaireYunFarronXIII3 жыл бұрын
If you were raised by my family in the 1900s, you would have gotten to drive that Porsche when you were twelve...if you behaved yourself. 😅 Red interiors get a thumbs up from me usually when Bentley, Brabus, or Mansory create them. Usually. 😅
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
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@mr.terwilliger57283 жыл бұрын
If I had $200,000 for a car I would buy mint condition used 1998-2006 boxters and mint condition used 1998-2006 911s
@Markybug-Keira-Cody3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the clean and uncluttered look of the original. The new one has a few too many fussy and unnecessary details?
@clu4u3 жыл бұрын
My 987S was traded in on a 981 Spyder, 144K miles on the older one. It’s like a go kart whereas my Spyder is almost Gran Touring in it’s comfort. “A newer Porsche is a better car but a worse Porsche”, if that old adage makes any sense. It does to me now. BTW, the GT Silver over Garnet Red is spectacular!
@tipazas3 жыл бұрын
Just realized funny thing, that Porsche for me is the only one car, which I could buy just as base model without any option and my dream will come true :)
@shakesnbake3 жыл бұрын
Love the old v new series 👍The red interior works on the OG Boxter - looks garish on the 718 but get why they did it. If only they could have done the mesh cover for the fans like the concept car too :) As much as I love the nostalgia and the 986 is genuinely pretty, the 718 looks the best.
@JetNix3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I love comparisons like these! =) The new car looks better. As for red interiors... hm, I like when the interior has some colors. Like some accents... for example, I had a 2015 Toyota Aygo and I selected the glossy pearl black panels for the dashboard and red surrounds for the side vents and gear shifter. And with white, body color accents on the doors it looked really contrasting and nice. =) Right now I have a 2019 Yaris Hybrid GR Sport and they had an option for red surrounds around the side vents and gear shifter too, so I selected them.) So yeah, I like multi-colored interiors and those Porsche colors look good to me. Mostly red, but also has black\ silver colors. But I would choose tan color for old car and black with tan for the new one. =)
@fabrizioriceputi44823 жыл бұрын
Awesome video but the beautiful 986 model will become more and more beautiful, it is already a classic, much softer design like the 50s models, the new 718 has no personality like all modern cars, they look like transformers, I always loved always the classics.
@StudioWilkeMedia3 жыл бұрын
Disappointed that the headlights are incorrect in the "original". My 1997 has the correct GT-1 inspired original all yellow (amber) lights. Why did they not get this right?
@AlpinaRS3 жыл бұрын
Proud to have a silver one 986 in the garage, manual transmission and over 180tkm without problems
@KurisuDE3 жыл бұрын
Funfact: "Oldtimer" ist a german word. The correct term is "classic car". Nice comparison, looking forward to the next one. Please don't do Golfs like everyone else.
@Ken_Jones3 жыл бұрын
Thomas: Gets a red interior Porsche as a birthday present. Also Thomas: Wow! Thanks! That's so nice! Also Thomas: Red car interiors? No! No! No! Not for me. Grateful for any present, such a gentleman.
@normdavis34502 жыл бұрын
Bitte den netten Herr Blume fragen ob er ein geschenk für mich hat, nächste woche habe ich geburtstag! ;-)
@leonardoluc63623 жыл бұрын
Prefer the Boxster over the Cayman as that looks just not a 911
@fatih.tavukcu3 жыл бұрын
I guess Thomas wouldn't have complained if the car had a blue interior :o)
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
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@JeffMarraccini3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this series! Brings back memories. Looking forward to the next visit to Porscheplatz post-pandemic. Nice video! Great Birthday present, too, haha! Happy Birthday, Thomas!
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
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@yueibm3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video, Thomas! The 2.5L 986 sounds a lot better than the 2000+ 2.7L, at least in the US (4 catalytic converters starting in 2000, and different intake manifold with crossover pipe). I miss my 1999 Boxster (in storage 2000km away) every time I drive the 2001 I purchased temporarily.
@dr-ok3sn3 жыл бұрын
new? it’s actually the same car since 2012, so yeah 9 years is really „new“😬
@ClaireYunFarronXIII3 жыл бұрын
"New" meaning the most recent or latest one, as he has called it in the video. And it is new, especially in relation to the older model.
@dr-ok3sn3 жыл бұрын
@@ClaireYunFarronXIII if you think so
@bicyclist23 жыл бұрын
I don't like the automatic transmission, but I love the beautiful red interior leather. It goes well with the metalic silver exterior. I hope to own one some day. Thank you.
@alexdarmstaedter4543 жыл бұрын
I like the red in the silver. My first car was a 1963 Ford Galaxie 2 door lightweight , white with red interior. And Yep, Even though I have an 02 986 S, I would choose the new one if given a choice.
@MrDarrenNice3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this 😊 I would pick the new one. I always like shiny and new. I do have a small connection with the older 986 as I used to work for an independent Porsche specialist many years ago ☺️
@rnrouss993 жыл бұрын
I love the red interior. Had it on my 981. I’ll have it again on my next Boxster.
@simonjury29163 жыл бұрын
Great video as ever. Love them both, personally owned the two in the middle, 987 and 981 from new . Shame you didn’t have them in your review as well for the full Boxster fan-fest!!
@borinvlogs3 жыл бұрын
4.0 sounds so different to 4 cylinders 718. Just woooow...
@kilabot7493 жыл бұрын
That old boxster reminds me of the game Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed, hehe.
@JAM_20243 жыл бұрын
It was crap from what I remember. Same with the Boxster.
@seanwalsh9993 жыл бұрын
They say that the 98 to 2009 had the same doors from the 911. They also say that the 2009 and onward has a little more seat travel. I don't know about you but I am six foot and I barely fit in my 2000 Boxster, and that is with the seat lowered and all the way back. I am thinking about the 2009 as that is the first year of the PDK and that stands for ( pretty darn quick ) plus my left knee is not very good. Thanks for showing the cut away car, really enjoyed seeing how they integrated the roll bar into the chassis frame. These are special cars, they are very small, not at all like a Corvette, totally different driving experience, more akin to Miats and MGB's but much stiffer and quicker and unbelievable handling. and braking.
@MathewLewit3 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea for video! Love it
@papapoum3 жыл бұрын
986 or mazda mx5 ? that's the question..
@RacketBlue3 жыл бұрын
i hava a mx-5 nc and i love the car. but never tried boxter
@joemesgleski36083 жыл бұрын
Great video comparison, well done. I have owned my 01 Boxster for 17 years and have enjoyed every bit of it. Plan on keeping it till I earn wings. 😄
@boblowe90373 жыл бұрын
Porsche... which one ? like everything comes down to your budget... but whatever that is... buy a Porsche.. you will not regret it. if you've never owned a Porsche then you wont understand but if you have... you understand. Base models will give you 98% of all the enjoyment and ownership experience of a Porsche... which you will not understand until you do. Add those many extra $$$ to go into the rarefied areas of GTS, GT3, GT4 etc... and my budget keeps me, more than happily in my base 981 Boxster (with a few added goodies).. i can only dream of the added delights.. memo to me.. work harder lol
@chrisdyson55133 жыл бұрын
Great video comparison, thank you so much. It was largely due to your video couple of years ago on the 718 Cayman that I bought one. Couldn’t be happier with it.
@mikeb10392 жыл бұрын
LOVE the 718 but not sure I want the "rich guys car" that is a given with it's garishness. the older one is more understated and less confrontational. I'm reading of increasing vandalism on expensive cars and I doubt that's going to get better. A real shame that the love of driving a fun sports car has to overlap with "what people think" if you own one. At least for those of us that can afford one now after a lifetime of wanting one.
@brianwebb69133 жыл бұрын
Both Boxsters are beautiful cars but given the choice, I would take the new one with the 4.0 engine. I would also add that the red interior is sexy.
@yueibm3 жыл бұрын
12:30 great observation about sitting on the car vs. in the car! I think it's one main reason why I enjoy driving my old Boxsters more than my 997 cabriolet. It feels more exposed to the elements.
@metalguyn3 жыл бұрын
you can lower the seat in the 986 with the lever on the side. I just discovered that recently.
@yueibm3 жыл бұрын
@@metalguyn That reminds me to adjust it! I have a 99 Boxster that I've adjust just right but left it with a friend when I moved, and I haven't adjusted the seats (except front-back) in the 01. Come to think of it, the 01 might be power seats - shows how little I've adjusted the seats.
@guser71375 ай бұрын
Drivers demanded the return of the six cylinder engine. Porsche gave the middle finger and said no engine for you. The EV is game over.
@mikewestwood5673 жыл бұрын
I can deal with Red seats but I hate the way Porsche colour the whole interior. It’s just wrong to have Red carpets and Dash too. No,no,no.
@Braydenplaysallday3 жыл бұрын
If I could trade the modern headlights onto the original boxster. I would take the 986
@TillOverHill3 жыл бұрын
Guys, this was an absolute delight. You should definitely do a premier type thing with these, it might pull in some more viewers? Hopefully. Or maybe even Patreon behind the scenes or more loosely edited versions :-D I would have loved to watch this as an hour long show really. Thank you for the content.
@nocommentnoname11113 жыл бұрын
Idk, but I don't buy a car because it has an Infotainment system or telephone installed from the factory.
@JAMAL123823 жыл бұрын
I would go for the old one as it has a pure design
@ryosaeba87182 жыл бұрын
Older is just classic porsche look how it got famous. Like it lot more than the new IMO
@sergeantsqueaker3 жыл бұрын
The 718 looks so big and ugly compared to the smooth lines of the 986.
@philp70123 жыл бұрын
The 718/Boxster is one of the last sports cars that still commits to the original philosophy. I'll take the Anniversary as a weekend toy and an M2 Competition as a daily please. And how can you not like red interiors Tomas! Silver on red is classic Porsche.
@dragospahontu3 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Toyota GT86 is better
@jamesjacobs5338 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video: I drive the older 986 and it's a simple delight. Thomas, your articulate enthusiasm is infectious. Thank you -- so interesting.
Why didn't you compare the price? The old model is affordible for more people.
@midhatvoloder407 Жыл бұрын
The red one is ugly as shit, turn down two good deals just because of the red interior.
@TheCreature73292 жыл бұрын
“Short and tiny” I mean.. looks average to me.. some might even say it’s huge..
@asaftzadok66473 жыл бұрын
Great video, Thomas ! 986 is the most disruptive car Porsche has ever made - I own one and looking to buy more :-) Where can I buy the headlight that your uncle had ?
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
Hehe good question, i dont have a source for that
@omerfaruksenturk5367 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. Thank you Thomas. I’m planning to buy old one 986 boxter (but of course not the red interior 😀) because i like retro desing and it’s cheaper. New generation is also superb. I want to go Porsche and ask them why red interior, why? It’s not good. Interesting decision.
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
glad u enjoyed :)
@bobpleau2 жыл бұрын
glad to hear you aren't into the red interior. I think it would agitate my nerves.
@justinmaccreery24903 жыл бұрын
The new one looks much better, but the older one is smaller... Hum...
@torreyinnewyorkcity3343 жыл бұрын
My pocketbook would only allow me to buy the older one but I would take the new one and the second
@sunilkhusial2 жыл бұрын
Why are the Concept cars always more beautifull?
@kriskalpa Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, it's really interesting to see the cars in the Porsche Museum. I have 2 986, one a press car for Porsche UK and the other is the first RHD car and I hope to visit the Porsche museum someday!
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
thanks for following :-)
@selldivision3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review!
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@wildwest54363 жыл бұрын
My silver 986 is black interior. Much nicer!
@ldgvh7210 Жыл бұрын
Great video! beautiful shots of the museum and very good host, well done
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏
@timetravelerarewethereyet37453 жыл бұрын
real talk..... i still like the old one better.. and my next car will be electric
@JCAlmeidaMusic3 жыл бұрын
Eww... automatic Boxsters. Nice video though!
@marilynkirkby48203 жыл бұрын
The phone call kills me! Hahaha! Love it!
@九条成恒3 жыл бұрын
986!!!
@doccyber3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. I have had 3 generations of the Boxster and this made me really miss my 2000 Boxster.
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
👌
@thedrivebygg3 жыл бұрын
Interesting you mention the boxster T, I test drove the base 718 and loved it.
@ant_mk35963 жыл бұрын
Microfiber seats? Do you mean Alcantara?
@mwh3227 Жыл бұрын
Both are great cars but very different than one another!
@davidkoh709711 ай бұрын
With the top down, I'd pick the 986.
@kriskalpa Жыл бұрын
It's interesting you mention the build quality has improved.. time will tell but I think the original cars are from a time when Porsche over-engineered cars and they were genuinely built to last. The 986 feels like a tank inside, everything solid and well made (except the air vents;)) And some engine issues.
@roygarramone71904 ай бұрын
New one by a long shot and red rocks.
@qc6r7bt465t4b23 жыл бұрын
I am considering buying an old boxster 986 but i am 195 cm tall.. will i fit into the car at all?
@Ryan-oh1sm2 жыл бұрын
I’m 193 cm. I just fit
@godoff.53043 жыл бұрын
Despite the wheels and tail lights, that 986 looks like it just designed just recently and came out of factory. I hope Porsche never change the interior of that new gen Boxsters like the way they did with the new Carrera. That full digital screens (Infotainment, speedometer etc.) for everything in the car, touch buttons instead of real knows and push buttons ruins all cars these days. Only touch screen thing in the cars should be the infotainment (Navigation), which should also have real/physical buttons/knobs. It locks terrible, extremely annoying to change sound, climate etc. while driving, not natural at all because your muscle memory (hands) cannot find it naturally, without taking your eyes off the road. It also gets bloody dirty all the time and looks disgusting. Audi was one of the best car interior designer in the planet but look at the interior of the 2020 and later RS6, compare to the previous generations. It feels like a computer game screen or more like playing with a tablet, smartphone etc., instead of driving a car.
@mark-hollis3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that the 718 is so ugly from behind. I would prefer the 986 over the 718 because of this every time. But for me the most beautiful Boxster of all time is the 987. That looks clean and beautiful from every angle.
@ivo43573 жыл бұрын
Thomas says you're better off with the old one if you want a car for cruising around, but if you're looking for a cruiser vehicle, I wouldn't think you'd be looking for a Porsche. A Porsche should always be sporty in my opinion.
@lifetree46232 жыл бұрын
The 986 steering wheel in this example is 2002-style 3-spoke, not the bigger, earlier 993-style wheel the Boxsters originally had.
@jeffreylonidier16073 жыл бұрын
RED interior? YES, YES, YES please! My 987 RS 60, 6 speed manual, has GT Silver Metallic exterior, red top and beautiful red full leather interior. 3.4l with Sport Exhaust is intoxicating! Rolled over 80k miles TODAY! Over 2000 HPDE track miles and countless AutoX. LOVE IT! Thank you.
@TheYjmfan3 жыл бұрын
I have the 986 2.7 Arctic silver with hardtop I’d love that red I have black/blue interior alcantara.I have the 17s Porsche standard twists.you just have to have the flat 6😬
@darkknightsds3 жыл бұрын
This was a joy to watch.
@stampedetrail20032 жыл бұрын
For appearance I'll always choose the 986. I even prefer the interior. But the 718 mechanicals are unmatched.
@nalukeko3 жыл бұрын
Yea that 4-banger was a bummer. Boxter finally looks the part with the 718, but 4-banger was just ridiculous. So glad the flat 6 is back.
@Greggory19873 жыл бұрын
Hey Thomas, greetings from San Francisco! I love your videos! Also, I actually just ordered a 2022 Boxster and can't wait to receive it from Porsche in 4 or 5 months.
@RzogL3 жыл бұрын
I drive a silver-on-blue 2001 S manual. No slack in the steering, thanks to 18" wheels, sticky tyres and a custom geometry setup, but I also wish I could lower the seat a another couple of inches. I really like the 718 (I'd be inclined to choose a PDK car, but I'd have to try it back to back with manual), the hood is a marvel, the interior looks lovely (it doesn't look that bad in red. In the 986 bright red looks garish! Teracotta would better) except for the button-festooned steering wheel that would look more in place in an Audi or a VW, I'm sure I'd even love the 2l 4-pot (yes, I know it doesn't sound as good, but it has a broader torque band and it's probably a lighter/more compact engine, so, swings and roundabouts...), it looks much better than the 987 and the 981, 25th anniversary silver and gold scheme looks fantastic, but... look at how much bigger it is, parked next to the old car! And the sharp-edged front wings carried over from the 981 don't really work for me, I prefer the smoother look of the original: some say the old car looks like a bar of soap but that's the 50s racer design language. This will sound a bit inappropriate, but looking down the front wings of the 986 through the windshield is like looking down a woman's cleavage... But these are minor details, any Boxster is a brilliant car. I hope they don't ruin it in the next generation: the Taycan is fantastic, but a 2-seat convertible version just wouldn't be a Boxster!
@Legaumaisdsts3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the simple, pure line of the 986; open top, hooded or with its hard-top. Ditto for its interior. I also prefer the relaxed sporty driving of the 986 to the brutal sporty driving of the news. I prefer a mechanical gearbox to an automatic gearbox.