cameramen: how many shots do you want? porsche: *yes*
@DEV4ST4T0R9 ай бұрын
That tech is amazing, all time flat car perfect traction
@3Sun_Rise38 ай бұрын
Xantia Activa
@artolphototolok77028 ай бұрын
Bose in 1990😂
@mro94668 ай бұрын
i want to see how long the system is going to work before maintenance
@techzillaro8 ай бұрын
Citroen C5/C6
@Excepticus8 ай бұрын
@@artolphototolok7702that system proved too heavy and too maintenance heavy to be in a road car.
@atamanaker95398 ай бұрын
damn. if we consider the standart chasis as a really good chassis for avergae car the active ride was mindblowing. nice job
@russellsmith52788 ай бұрын
That green is amazing
@FifiL72428 ай бұрын
Bose suspension is bringed back to life :D
@codyrap958 ай бұрын
Brought*
@wadimek1168 ай бұрын
I think bose was better by a big margin, still wish it would be made.
@samuelrodriguez66848 ай бұрын
@@wadimek116 yeah and it's a completely different tech
@yithenntan78758 ай бұрын
Hopefully its reliable as it can be. Porsche engineering is just beyond what other car companies could do
@hrtlik8 ай бұрын
I have my Taycan at the dealer for the 4th time in last 12 months :)
@drkphntm68408 ай бұрын
@@hrtlik what did you do to the car man, hahaahahh
@hrtlik8 ай бұрын
@@drkphntm6840 First time heater failed, second time side electric charging doors failed, third time again charging doors, fourth time 12V battery failed - had to be towed.
@G82Watts8 ай бұрын
@@hrtlikheres an idea don't buy an EV. 😂😂 why would u get a PORSCHE and choose to buy an EV version. I get the taycan is sexy af but ur just missing out on so much fun.
@hrtlik8 ай бұрын
@@G82Watts every problem that occured has nothing to do with an EV. IT is just poor engineering and poor software development in VW group. Combustion engine cars are outdated in my opinion. I have a headache from loud engines and breating toxic gases which coming from them. On top of that, my "fuel" and service costs are about 1/3 of what I would have paid with 911 or Panamera.
@leonstoma74328 ай бұрын
Remember Xantia Activa? It was way ahead of it's time! On the Moose Test this Porsche will do extremely well!
@jmsterdam8 ай бұрын
But the rising nose on WOT looks awesome from the side and feels awesome from inside too
@splitz77588 ай бұрын
It actually doesn't
@minomarazzini8 ай бұрын
Bose did something identical 30 years ago (about), showcasing it on an experimental Lexus LS400, but implementation was different (electomagnetic and not hydraulic).
@루이스-c4x8 ай бұрын
I am wondering if the standard model without active ride even doesn’t have PDCC?? I am interested in knowing the performance difference between this new model with active ride and the 971.2 (previous model such as 2023year model) model with PDCC.
@brickhead_079 ай бұрын
Impressive engineering!
@sealabverticle78978 ай бұрын
this is going to revolutionize the car industry, as other performance car companies will start to apply this the way porsche does
@matthest.30908 ай бұрын
BOSE already did this in 2007. just search for BOSE suspension. Funny vid
@TakosH58 ай бұрын
the green Porsche almost took off
@WayApp8 ай бұрын
Porsche elegance
@Lucifer010128 ай бұрын
The wierd part is the normal panamera is not bad either. But the active suspension is just better
@ChrissOHV8 ай бұрын
Does it also jump like the Bose ride equipped lexus many years ago? 😀
@dr.md.raihanali55538 ай бұрын
Nah man... It looks like BYDs YAANG WAANG U9s suspension. I think Porsche stole the technology...🤓🤓🤓
@tobias_k018 ай бұрын
@@dr.md.raihanali5553 yeah sure, as if they ever would... Something like this takes years of development, and how old is YangWang again?
@dr.md.raihanali55538 ай бұрын
@@tobias_k01 I don't know... But it sure looks cool though...
@jordan-ho7gt8 ай бұрын
@@dr.md.raihanali5553 no one copies xing ling technology
@GerardButIer8 ай бұрын
@@jordan-ho7gt2004 was 20 years ago. Wake up old man, the worlds changed
@jeanmoins4958 ай бұрын
Citroën : "hold my Activa"
@rocogo8 ай бұрын
I wonder if this will prevent the front wheels from feeling light and floaty under hard acceleration
@MotownModels8 ай бұрын
I doubt it would be significantly different. Even though the body of the vehicle isn't pitching back as much, the weight is still shifting rearward on acceleration. The car is level from the outside, but if you looked at the load values, the rear axle would still be loaded up way more.
@RealLubba8 ай бұрын
@@MotownModelsthat's what i was thinking too, I'd be curious to see data on this
@bobbyjones22938 ай бұрын
It looks so smooth and fast
@KingaKowalik-m6n8 ай бұрын
Bardzo miło oglądało się to wideo.
@vincentdahlenburg94745 ай бұрын
I wonder if it is really worth the extra cost. My 2012 Panamera turbo handles damn good for a 4 door car.
@Pro_Architector8 ай бұрын
BYD Seal: hold my beer 😂😂😂
@realme41078 ай бұрын
my bear?
@stan-qf3dk7 ай бұрын
what?
@mikeicee8 ай бұрын
The car staying flat will make the average consumer push it even harder to crash harder in real life
@Hinterhof-qx5ql8 ай бұрын
The bouncing after braking to a standstill is still present and could be improved with the active suspension
@DMHN848 ай бұрын
Porsche making Porsche look bad? Haha that suspension is surreal 😳
@CaptainKedah8 ай бұрын
i saw this on a First Gen Lexus with Bose Suspension but didn't make it into Production
@HaskiHNK8 ай бұрын
Algún día espero ser el que prueba los coches.
@GethinJames8 ай бұрын
The initial bounce though at launch is apparent. Some lean is also not an altogether bad thing. I'd imaging ride quality would be compromised to some degree?
@jetplume8 ай бұрын
Roll is not a good thing. And no, ride quality is not compromised, which is why it's a big deal.
@김홍석-p4h8 ай бұрын
Porsche ignore the physics
@bugjuicer8 ай бұрын
The car being so 'stiff' means that the forces are going to be felt more tho? Might make the car feel too stiff in the corners and give those seats n your sides an extra beating? Impressive tho
@christmasisawesome93488 ай бұрын
Isn't that just the PDCC option?
@resadrecebli22638 ай бұрын
PDCC can't do that
@christmasisawesome93488 ай бұрын
@@resadrecebli2263 What do you mean? PDCC is designed to do that. My 991 turns flatter with it on. I bet the difference is even more noticeable with heavier cars like Panamera
@nomansland1208 ай бұрын
@@christmasisawesome9348 This is air suspension bro, not just PDCC. It's brand new tech just introduced in the 2024 models
@christmasisawesome93488 ай бұрын
@@nomansland120 My bad. I didn't read the description. PDCC is an active anti roll bar. This new tech has nothing to do with that but the shocks themselves.
@MotownModels8 ай бұрын
No, read the description. This is a completely different damper/spring system
@hechter808 ай бұрын
Nobody commented about the amount of cameras 😁👌
@adamal95609 ай бұрын
Is it coming to the taycan?
@johndaily98698 ай бұрын
yes
@torentmonkey8 ай бұрын
Merge this with the active angle adjustment from Lamborghini ( still vag ) then put it on the taycan turbo GT. New record :)
@ThunderTiger08019 ай бұрын
Does a system like this have a noticeable impact on the fuel consumption? Cause with a car that heavy I imagine that a lot of energy has to be used. Or maybe the full potential of the suspension is only used under heavy load when the engine is pushed a lot anyways?
@flacjacket8 ай бұрын
I imagine its fairly energy neutral, body motion consumes energy too.
@stan-qf3dk7 ай бұрын
pretty sure the energy from regen braking covers this
@EdwardChew8 ай бұрын
So it helps with lap time?
@LemtemPoktui8 ай бұрын
Yes
@marcowerner87398 ай бұрын
I would prefer the more traditional feel of the car rather than having a synthetic feeling and its unnatural weight transfer under load. Weight transfer can be very useful and is absolutely essential for a vehicle if you’re not driving it on a racetrack.
@jakestarboy8 ай бұрын
Wait what?! Wow!!
@joshuacampbell77108 ай бұрын
Get this model at the porsche experience and see if it can drift and stay level. It'd be a fun challenge.
@sebastian.cercelaru8 ай бұрын
At this point Porsche is not hurt Porsche likes to hurt others
@athanasius10138 ай бұрын
Guys amazing how difficult to do that possible ???🎉🎉🎉
@hadrienlf238 ай бұрын
This system is very good, but still would be inferior to a fully adjustable hydro/Gas suspension created by Citroen and used in DS, BX, Xantia, Silver Shadows, Discovery 2 and Mclaren hyper series cars whom have developed the best ever system yet.
@MotownModels8 ай бұрын
What makes you think that? Read the description, there's lots of technical info.
@jz92668 ай бұрын
What about ride quality?
@thepineappleburster44398 ай бұрын
Jfc. Insane
@yoldza8 ай бұрын
Brutal
@gardawg8 ай бұрын
Does the engineer is the people who invent Lexus Bose Suspension technology back in the day?
@kavkawasdie8 ай бұрын
But how was tge time?
@YoutubeYou-i8n8 ай бұрын
10/10
@datogadelia8 ай бұрын
flat when needed, cloud when not needed
@mou1998ssa8 ай бұрын
The seats are going to be the biggest problem with this system . The Gs experienced will be insane
@ERTZZTRE8 ай бұрын
That`s a marketing gag. They have to compare the 971 with PDCC against the new suspension.
@S251178 ай бұрын
So wich is better?
@The_North08 ай бұрын
Your mom
@gokhancatalci8 ай бұрын
Bose suspansion system on 1998
@gekl84448 ай бұрын
why is this not standard in every porsch?
@Excepticus8 ай бұрын
System that only works on ev / hybrid models due to the need of a strong electrical system
@stebansb8 ай бұрын
Great, until it breaks, which it will.
@4hmedb3 ай бұрын
Thanks another reason why I should avoid the panamera and look for another car, this suspension should be standard and not make me pay 8k for it 🤦♂️
@lillilit848022 күн бұрын
I don't think that its how a business works lol,if It was standard you still have to pay the cost so the base price would be 8k higher
@4hmedb22 күн бұрын
@ What are you to tell me that’s not how a business works 😂? The more people that buy a product the cheaper it gets, making it standard means everyone’s paying the price for it so it can become as much as 4k less, it cost them ally to invest then they have to make it standard to get that money back but making it optional forces them to price it high so they can make the cost of investment back
@lillilit848022 күн бұрын
@@4hmedb People are not going to pay 4K for an option so that Ahmed can have it cheaper 🫣 The system of having all the options as a base only works for cheap cars,in expensive cars add the suspension,lights,park assist, security sistem,premium audio system...and you have 50k in options that Will kick the 90% of your potential buyers 😂
@4hmedb22 күн бұрын
@@lillilit8480 Surprise surprise you just mentioned the exact reason why I avoided this car in my first comment 😲😦, and when a whole car model is based on luxury I’d expect the suspension which is the most important of all to be standard like on a maybach, rolls,Bentley, you are not wrong on making everything an option but if the suspension is what defines the car model then it should be standard! Just like in those cars! Why doesn’t the rolls offer spring suspension then? Because it won’t match the use of the car model, just like the whole purpose of the panamera which is 80% luxury % comfort and 20% Porsche dna chasis,you might aswell say the 911’s engine should be optional and the 4 cylinder should be standard 🤦♂️
@lillilit848022 күн бұрын
@@4hmedb the suspension in the basic Panamera is good enough,if people want something more premium they have to pay for it, such as an M5 and an M5 competition, or the brakes, you can have great brakes but if you want the best quality you have to pay for the ceramic ones.
@supersimon1268 ай бұрын
I'm not sure i've seen this absence of bodyroll before on a car that actually has.. Well. Suspension..
@soiadesign8 ай бұрын
Bronze is a 3d rendered simulation vs Green real car physics)
@freeking42918 ай бұрын
Bose: Ya so late
@rozikrazimator8 ай бұрын
GTA IV vs GTA V physics
@cyrilmatthew29958 ай бұрын
Passengers inside will get more force I reckon ....
@lucasworktv8 ай бұрын
Something Lexus had 30 years ago 😂
@Taganskii8 ай бұрын
mmmmm bose suspension
@AKA-hl1pv8 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to return the car for maintenance and wait 50 days to get it fixed lol
@sanchezking61888 ай бұрын
This thing will just eat through tires.
@lucasclaude91218 ай бұрын
Citroën 30 years ago be like 😅😅
@kaiyoung73268 ай бұрын
so basically this chassis is good for cutting up 🤣
@gadgetblitzs8 ай бұрын
How many of you are looking for comments who could explain what was the difference !!
@bogart749825 күн бұрын
Mechanic's worst nightmare
@dimitriscupraman85428 ай бұрын
Citroen xantia activa typing....😂
@rebelroad4018 ай бұрын
Porsche is copying Mercedes’ E-Active Body Control which was introduced in 2019.
@phixxter65758 ай бұрын
copying? more like realizing it can be useful and then implementing it like most companies will begin to, but you do you, mf
@vorsprungdurchtechnik58 ай бұрын
PDCC has been around far longer than E-Active Body Control, done better, lasted longer and hasn't been discontinued in most models it was offered in originally. "E-Active Body Control" isn't even a competitor to Porsche's PDCC as its solely for comfort and this is for both that and performance… Not hating on Mercedes but they can't even compare because they're 2 different things.
@mcunhabr8 ай бұрын
Mercedes e-active is a (bad) copy of PDCC 😂 Porsche’s PDCC came first.
@rebelroad4012 ай бұрын
PDCC only reduces lateral body roll while cornering. It does not reduce longitudinal movement when accelerating/braking. Active ride does both lateral and longitudinal and copies the mercedes system which was designed with an air spring and an electric motor on each corner.
@tourtool52198 ай бұрын
Bose tech
@taurussho868 ай бұрын
Bose 20 year + older active suspension is still better than this.
@Mrsteamdeck8 ай бұрын
성로형 탕후루 그만 빨고 이거나 빨아보자~
@saifalketbi73128 ай бұрын
More tech more services more money waste 😅
@BIGGELATO8 ай бұрын
wtf
@Serhio_Alvarez8 ай бұрын
No difference only marketing..
@carlosorff8 ай бұрын
A Porsche made anothe Porsche look bad. Same car model, but one is for high class and another seems as if it was made for plebeians.
@dr.osamaalshareef88468 ай бұрын
Free Palestine
@v7xgaming8 ай бұрын
I hate this lol
@ilvesman8 ай бұрын
That’s pure BS for any driver looking for a weight transfer feedback. Useless, expensive and fat feature.
@TheMaximBond9 ай бұрын
What a dull sound! Amg and M are just laughing
@zolnte9968 ай бұрын
Until they go through a corner
@JTM6108 ай бұрын
Amg and bmw m don't sound better theyre the same quiet
@crea678 ай бұрын
Bmw m yeah, but AMG nope. Cause AMG made for fun and have a great sound, but BMW M made for efficiency like Porsche did