Porsche Releases 2 New Macan EV Variants! I Drive The Range King RWD & Sweet Spot 4S

[@panic.attack]

Gotta say I appreciated this review. Dave does not deliver the full nerdy experience, but he has no less attention to detail.

[@idiNty]

This is an exceptionally complimentary review! Also to directly blend in the technical specs of certain configurable components is very helpful. Thank you for coming over!

[@dirk2349]

It`s always a pleasure to see Out of Spec in Germany.

[@USMA81]

I have a Macan 4 on order. Here’s why: 1. I love Porsche vehicles. Had several, great engineering. 2. I have excess solar on house. Free electricity to charge. ICE is so 20th century, especially when electricity is free. 3. The Taycan is terrific, but no hitch for bike rack. 4. I want something other people aren’t driving. 5. I’m willing to pay for the quality (will keep the vehicle many years). 6. Need space for large dog. 7. Ordered 4 before 4S became available. Turbo seems overkill, with reports of drivers getting nauseous. Probably would get the 4S if ordering today, but 4 is fine. 8. Didn’t want a vehicle with a large tablet glued to the dash. Just my design preference. 9. Brand history, quality and reliability are important, as is the financial strength of the company. Some of these off-brand EV makers are going to go under (Fisker). 10. Macan has a monster charging curve and range will be good/ great for road trips (Kyle, 10% challenge on the Macan?) 11. So many choices to customize the vehicle. I will be getting a “one-of-a-kind” vehicle. 12. Driving reports from influencers are stellar: “Drives like a true Porsche!” Here’s what I give up: 1. Tesla charging network and software are better. 2. Money. Porsche prices are eye watering. 3. Design is OK, front is good, back is not as good (but coefficient of drag is very good) 4. OPD is not important to me. 5. Macan 4 0-60 is just OK, but not a big factor for me. Most people don’t use full acceleration very often. So, essentially I’m paying for quality, reliability, functionality (for me) and uniqueness. These are very expensive vehicles. Most people won’t be able to justify new, but the good news is that these vehicles will be affordable in the used market in a few years.

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

not having the tablet in the middle is a major flaw, but it's not just that, i will never go back to anything else from Tesla. easily the best ev after tesla, the Macan is excellent

[@Anthony-z5i]

I think the inside of this looks sensational. Everyone else building EV,s seems fixated on just putting a steering wheel on a plain dashboard and attaching a big iPad with all controls on it. I think the designs of EV,s are a big factor as to why many people are NOT interested yet in buying one. Everybody I speak to at work, or socially all say the same thing when we discuss them. They like the idea of going EV, but the look of them is putting them off. They see ICE vehicles looking stylish and just upgrading gradually with new tech and they look nice, but for some reason, as soon as the same companies decide to build an EV, they suddenly get out the space ship design specs and commence making something which looks like it belongs in the Jetson’s garage. It’s not needed. Just give people choice for now, by making the same vehicles but with a choice of EV or PHEV that look the same as the ICE versions. Also for the same price or even a tad cheaper due to government subsidies to get everyone thinking more about EV,s.

[@computercrack]

@@Anthony-z5i BMW is doing this and it seems to pay off.

[@computercrack]

@@USMA81 Great choice, wonderful car! Although the Taycan is available with a bike rack and can be equipped with a roof transportation system

[@gillesa2153]

Thanks for your detailed comment! Nice configuration. I have the same arguments as you. My only exception is that I took the Turbo version. No doubt very, very overkill, but in Switzerland the (final) price difference between the 4, 4S and turbo wasn't as great as that (at least for me...). And as I'm planning to keep it for as long as possible, I'll be able to avoid selling it and buying something more powerful (I know myself!). I'm looking forward to it, it should arrive in about 1-3 weeks. In any case, the tests and reviews seem to be unanimous! A killer (but expensive)

[@brianfitzgibbons8167]

Thanks

[@MrHundd]

You, sir, are an excellent reviewer!

[@arnaudcampion]

Thank you for this cool review Dave … I’m getting My Macan Turbo on the 7th of November

[@2013AirForce]

Great review Dave! I like your perspective. It’s not the same way as I look at cars, nor is it the same as Kyle’s perspective but I always appreciate your thoughts. Thanks

[@darinbrazil5496]

long time no see, nice review Dave I bet it was a blast to drive! "6 foot 5 and maybe a little wider than I should be" lol that was ghoooood!

[@joshuabourgeois9734]

Really complete review ! 👍👍

[@vp0029]

Dave is a legend! this was great!

[@ksampsondavis]

Awesome video, Dave+OOS. Would love to see more reviews from you.

[@evkx]

Thanks for reviewing this for Kyle! When it comes to regenerative braking, Porsche, Audi, and others offer a superior solution compared to Tesla. With their systems, you don’t need to press the brake pedal to activate regen-adaptive regenerative braking kicks in automatically when necessary, such as when approaching a car or slowing down for an intersection. This makes for a more comfortable and efficient driving experience. Tesla, on the other hand, lacks advanced brake-by-wire technology, so they don’t support blended braking. Given their Full Self-Driving (FSD) capabilities, you would expect them to have moved beyond their 2012 regen strategy by now, but it seems cost may be a limiting factor.

[@bartdeking]

You mean completely unnecessary, when you release the gas peddle a bit you coast, little more and you brake a bit even more you brake more, realse and you brake hard. Then press the brake and you brake insane hard. I do not get why you need anything more? Similarly why I do not get why people want drive modes (unless for fsd) When you drive you should always have full power and you can control your drive mode with your foot unless you are disabled.

[@evkx]

@@bartdeking to be forced to keep the foot in a special position is less comfortable and efficient. On Q6 built on the same platform Audi have added one pedal driving mode, but they also have a display that show all energy wasted with one pedal driving. Seems like you are driving a car without air suspension and adaptive dampers. Drive modes are 99% about that. On my personal Audi i have full power in all modes.

[@bartdeking]

@@evkx I am sorry to hear that you can't control your foot. Humanity has been driving with their foot controlling the speed including deceleration for about 100 year. Also if you have trouble you can always use the cruise control button. I am sure your local stealership can help you finding it. 🤣

[@evkx]

@@bartdeking you should really try a car with propper regen :-)

[@davek4442]

Great review does this EV offer bi-directional charging? For home power back up.

[@doomsday9973]

no

[@G82Watts]

Believe their is 2 charging ports on each side like the new taycan.

[@doomsday9973]

@@G82Watts he means bi directional as in you can power your house

[@paulburns3211]

Off-throttle regen is a setting in the vehicle menu. Regen in the 4 is just fine-maybe a little less than Taycan.

[@PH-ENJ]

Confirmed. Look for a this setting in the Vehicle - Drive setting screen. It's that little gaspump with an arrow around it in the bottom right hand corner of the screen

[@harleykervenschery2791]

Dream car right there! It’s even better looking irl.

[@shrichaudhary]

It’s only a matter of time before we find the Conners get a McCann EV in the garage!

[@jacquesnauer5630]

KEYLESSS DRIVING: can it be implemented?

[@581rma]

Great video sounds like a car to put on my bucket list

[@dannyboy6983]

Great review Dave!

[@ericnewton5720]

I fucking love the way they look. But I can’t stand the 90k+ base price. I’ll be looking at them again in about 4-5 years.

[@anguspaterson5713]

The standard RWD is the EV to have if you’re a driving enthusiast with a family. Practical, good range, quality interior, good to drive, sporty.

[@gsengle]

"regen is not very strong". YOU MEAN lift off deceleration / one pedal driving is not aggressive. This has nothing to do with regen. The porsche does exceptional regen. It just has to be intentional at the brake pedal, which actually tends to enhance efficiency. You get exactly the same regen for a given degree of deceleration regardless of mode in every EV. Its not like you're not going to brake. But coasting is what you should be doing as much as possible for efficiency.

[@CybertuxSpain]

Overall the best EV your money can buy

[@otm646]

75k! I like the design, it fits the target demographic. It's still very Porsche but there is serious competition both EV and ICE at that price point. 15k jump over the old base ICE is hard to justify.

[@paulburns3211]

Dave better hope the bonuses are good this year, because he’s buying two Macans.

[@johnpoldo8817]

Dave, you must get one of these for Kathy with a light interior. You can enjoy it too.

[@navy9398]

Great video. Just so you know, though. (FYI) No one ever called the trunk of the VW Beetle, "frunk". And, you don't say, "runk" for the rear trunk. Thank you.

[@madsdgdhg]

The cool thing is that, without the roof rails and the "off road" pack and with sport suspension... it looks just like a (bigger) european hatchback, not just another SUV. And that alone would make it a buy for me... if I had the money. 😁

[@theusefulchannel]

Just tell me the price of the batteries.

[@johnpoldo8817]

This is the first EV giving me a reason to trade in current model S. Regen braking is a must and their implementation maybe fine. But it seems you must press brake hard at a red light which one-pedal EVs don’t require. Light blue looks really nice and unique, but concerned too feminine for a guy. After driving EQS 580 with rear wheel steering, every new EV I buy must have it.

[@JonathanEzor]

This is a vehicle that I would love to own, but I know it would be wasted on me given where and how I drive. Hell, I rarely if ever push my Mach-E GT anywhere near its true capabilities. Still, I am sorely tempted by this. Thanks much!

[@oliverp8006]

But there is no one-padel-driving, that's a bummer

[@CybertuxSpain]

Macan 4 is perfect for me.

[@TheChrisMoris]

Which color is that light blue?

[@antonymcneillis]

It must have one pedal driving. It must also have Carbon ceramic brakes as an option.

[@hendersonjr2]

Dave - I bet what was happening when you tried to open the charge port door on the passenger side: The car was first closing the other door on the driver side that you opened before it would open the passenger side door

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

They need to offer a "range spec" version with 245 square tire setup on 19in aero wheels. People buying the base model likely want range and want to save money. A square setup would help with cost and efficiency. This car definitely has a lot of good thing but its missing some features like one pedal driving and is priced high for what you get. It will sell well enough but I expect depreciation to still be somewhat brutal. Personally i dont care for one pedal driving as long as the brake pedal has some kind of intial regen to recoup energy. The reason is two pedal allow for a more graduate and finer control of the brake pedal. I drive a Tesla and gas performance car and the gas car can be driven in a smoother manner to some extent. Either way I think the Q6 E tron is the better pick for 20% less money. Should offer 95% of this cars stuff.

[@computercrack]

of course the brake pedal applies regen first up to 200 or more kW you can brake reasonably strong before the mechanic brake kicks in. like 0.5g or so

[@concinnus]

To get adaptive air suspension on the Audi you have to step up to the prestige trim, only $6k off the base Macan. That Audi trim also gets you AWD, but not everyone wants that.

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

@@concinnus You can get RWD on the Audi Q6 E tron and save 2K. But not sure why anyone would save 2K when it nets you much better performance and not much of a range hit. As for the air suspension that is true. But if you add all the features of the Q6 E tron prestige to a Macan 4 it will be 90K+. You have to remember that everything is an option on Porsches.

[@fluffysharkdatazz9460]

Are they still blood curdling slow to charge?

[@outofspecdave1554]

270kW peak and mid 200’s all the way up to approx 65% If you call that slow, then yes

[@fluffysharkdatazz9460]

@@outofspecdave1554 excellent, I only ask cuz I know many of my friends went to Audi, Tesla, and one to Rivian cuz the taycan charge was unbelievable slow back a couple years ago.

[@paulburns3211]

For the record, Dave, I’ve yet to inadvertently open the frunk.

[@diydrivenGA]

I'll wait until Rivian is helping VW group with direct SW improvements before buying an EV from them. I will say I love the design of the Macan, always have.

[@kkjjqrysdgadff7782]

Rivian's software is actual garbage. I've had an R1S for 2 months and it's absolute dogshit. The car is also in the shop now for at least a month due to multiple serious issues, it was towed a week ago. Rivian makes garbage.

[@otm646]

​@@kkjjqrysdgadff7782If it's been in the shop for a month already, look up your state lemon laws. You likely already qualify.

[@G82Watts]

Buddy porsche is partnered with RIMAC.

[@Porsche1969]

Oh, wow... That's really stupid dude🤦‍♂🤦‍♂😂😂. PORSCHE certainly doesn't need "help for improvements" from Rivian! Dumbest opinion I've heard for a long time.

[@jonpetter8921]

Porsche doesn t need Rivian. It s Rivian that needs Porsche.

[@bneyarb5037]

God this is a good looking car imo. Did turning regen on in the infotainment make a diffference off-throttle? I don’t care about strong regen but I want it to at least feel like a torque converter in a gas car off-throttle - i.e. mild deceleration, not coasting.

[@PH-ENJ]

regen or recuparation as Porsche calls is, although it's way less than in de Tesla Model 3, it's certainly not coasting. It also doesn't go all the way to a stop. But Porsche has a pedal for that...

[@kevinn1158]

Starts at 110k CAD here in Canada....yah everybody should buy one. LOL

[@jameshetfield5894]

I vastly prefer no roofrails in terms of looks🤪😁

[@galactictomato1434]

Shame they don't have a more powerful RWD variant.

[@Porsche1969]

What a weird opinion, dude. "More powerful" wouldn't be very useful with only RWD in an electric Porsche. You have to take at least the Macan 4S, then you'll get more power. There's nothing wrong with an "only RWD" electric Macan base version, because the ICE Macan still has an only RWD base version too. The Macan base version isn't meant to be an "electric muscle car" for "sliding and overstearing fun" BS of 18 year old clowns....

[@galactictomato1434]

@@Porsche1969 Who said there's anything wrong with the base RWD variant? I just want a RWD version with more power. I have no need for AWD, and RWD is more enjoyable.

[@PrincessTS01]

they should make an all carbon fiber version and ditch the back seats and hatch and it only needs 2 doors

[@sirgardensalot]

Dave great review so from your recommendation to go for the turbo, so Kathy would be getting a turbo I assume 😂

[@RT-zg9qi]

I love Porsche but you can get a Base Model Y for about 2.5 times less. Not really sure it is worth that price tag.

[@Porsche1969]

At least you have to touch the front bumber surface to open the frunk. It's not just a gestical system like inside of BMWs.

this will be a competitor with the Rivian R2 variants

[@nerdbikes3841]

Well. The Rivian R2 is supposed to start at $45k so…. There’s that.

[@G82Watts]

People that drive porsches aren't looking at rivian. This may get some EV lovers over to porsche side but not the other way around. Porsche is a porsche. U don't downgrade

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

This car put tesla to shame. Even with the new model y theyll never achieve a car that looks this good and have air suspension, HUD, driving dynamics, etc..

[@joetacchino4470]

That lane departure chirp is so annoying. My wife has it turned off in her Cayenne and freaks out if it accidentally gets re-engaged.

[@junehanzawa5165]

That's a tight fit in the back for such an expensive vehicle. Great technology, performance, and charging, though.

[@andrewdoane6558]

The car will always regen with the brake pedal before it applies friction brakes. The regen option controls if it will regen if you come off the accelerator. Unfortunately, it’s still not one pedal driving.

[@Aztasu]

The way Porsche is doing it ensures consistent and powerful braking when you need it, much better approach.

[@Porsche1969]

Wow... Americans still don't get it, that PORSCHE EVs OF COURSE are always recuperating, if you step on the brake pedal 🤦‍♂! These stupid "why no one pedal driving blah blah blah" BS questions from still a lot of American "car journalists" don't show any learning curve. Listen, you clowns: PORSCHE EVs are recuperating with much more power than almost any other EV! For example, the Macan electric recuperates with up to 240 KW and the Taycan with even up to 420 KW! Porsche just want to guarantee its customers the same driving and braking feel in the electric Macan like in every other ICE Porsche model. And therefore "one pedal" BS in a modern Porsche is still totally irrelevant! Just use the brakes, after coasting the electric Porsche! This way of braking recuperation is also very efficient, but sadly some Americans are still too dumb to understand it.

[@eingast7798]

I enjoy the Taycan, BECAUSE it has NO ipedal, never would buy a car that cant coast.

[@barryw9473]

No rear wiper?

[@Carfan678]

Its an option 🤣

[@concinnus]

It has the window angle of a coupé, and coupés don't have rear wipers. It's not going to get mud thrown on it by the wake turbulence the way an Ioniq 5 window does.

[@ianwilson2968]

@@Carfan678only if you don’t spec the insulating / privacy glass, you can’t have both, well not in my country anyway.

[@computercrack]

​@@omnicognatesnr5947 the ev doesnt have a spoiler so this will not be a problem. rear wiper is ultra ugly imho this would ruin the car

[@concinnus]

@@omnicognatesnr5947 Maybe, but the 3rd gen window is about 40 degrees from horizontal, whereas the EV looks more like 30. It also has a higher and sharper edge at the shoulder line.

[@ericn3221]

The Porsche guy said the RWD range was 394 miles so that must have been done mimicking a USPS driver and Dave is 6 foot 5 if you didn't know.😂

[@EVandMe]

For the price, Rivian is a better option.

[@josephcullen2512]

Ooh das ist interesting

[@richmeyer2064]

Nice informative review. I see the styling and air suspention a plus. On the negative, a 50% ($25,000) premium over a Tesla Model Y will probably limit it's appeal to a niche group that must have a Porsche.

[@Aztasu]

no one is cross-shopping an outdated and ugly Model Y with a Porsche Macan

[@galactictomato1434]

I wish you would have showed us footage of the HUD in action.... Frustrating 😡

[@Arpedk]

Wow that is an expensive Model Y!

[@EVPHASE]

Used 2021 Model Y Dual Motor would be better

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

If you don´t like cars - just transport you are right.

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

Would be better for who? Brokeys? The model y looks like the most basic traffic blob ever without even a guage cluster screen or HUD. The macan is gorgeous

[@jonpetter8921]

Biggest joke of the year!!

[@EVPHASE]

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 I love my TM3LR with AC Boost, faster than most Ferraris

[@diydrivenGA]

Oh that sliding charge door looks like an pricey and unnecessary point of failure.

[@DemonXplaid]

Wait for the refreshed model Y. Maybe not as nice inside but much better technology, efficiency, and cheaper. Oh and it has FSD. The macan and every car that doesn’t have FSD will be obsolete. I estimate there will be a period of about 3 years once FSD becomes unsupervised, where people realize that a car without FSD is not worth getting no matter how nice it is. There will be a few exceptions like people who still ride horses for fun or like to race their cars on a track, but the Vast majority will prefer a car that can drive itself. Basically a personal chauffeur

[@JoeS97756]

Dude, Porsche with FSD makes no sense, you pay extra for Porsche to drive it.

[@jonpetter8921]

FSD is a scam and Tesla is no Porsche

[@Jeff.55649]

I don't like the egg shape!

[@zyxlsy]

It's sad that Porsche just doesn't understand NOT having lift-off recuperation (at least some) IS a great hazard in city driving. Not having to constantly move your right foot between two pedals is a great effort-saver and you're still driving the car yourself. Please stop being so stubborn...

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

So you put regen on, its simple

[@ChuckJ1944]

Porsche does not believe in one pedal driving (and neither do I)

[@carlosalves517]

Did Porsche fly you out and put you up at a hotel for the review? This would be very important to,disclose.

[@tonymcflattie2450]

I have to press on brake pedal to regen? WTF… unsubscribed. lol. Jk keep up the good work

[@Tomzuki.]

I agree with Porsche's decision to not have any one pedal driving etc. since I would rather have the car roll freely if I'm not pressing any pedals. Regen is very useful when you are coming to a full stop or braking hard, but in those situations you might as well use the brake pedal as you normally would. When you are driving dynamically its more efficient to try and carry the momentum when making slight adjustments to speed, since regen is never 100% efficient. Also I think it makes the ride much smoother compared to having constant deceleration and acceleration, it's all down to the driving style of course

[@computercrack]

OPD sucks

[@tonymcflattie2450]

@@Tomzuki. I agree! Just drive it like a normal car

[@tonymcflattie2450]

@@computercrack yup, I agree. Not a fan of opd

[@dyhppyx]

Porsche gets away with so much

[@johnnyv5995]

Nice, but way too expensive(yes I know it's a Porsche).

[@johngalt5411]

I kinda wish Kyle had reviewed this. Nothing personal against this guy, he's very good. I just know Kyles sensibility & the review would have been more meaningful as this is a very important model for Porsche, and so far I haven't been feeling it.

[@garydmercer]

Isn't this Kyle's dad?

[@johnbowater-md9wd]

it's his dad...this guy 😂😂

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

Kyle is doing It most professional - he will for sure review it again (he did already before it was on sales), and this guy is his dad and doing it just for fun

[@doomsday9973]

Kyle already reviewed it

[@doogiemcdougster6740]

No one-pedal driving? WFT!

[@jamesphillips2961]

Went to the configurator and built a Macan 4 to roughly match up specs with an AWD Ioniq 5 Limited. The I5 is quicker, has somewhat more cargo space, and is about $30k less expensive before any dealer incentives. The Macan 4 has more range, although the 2025 I5 is supposed to increase that. Porsche has had good build quality over the last few years.

[@doomsday9973]

@@omnicognatesnr5947 agreed I'm not impressed with it

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

Well you compare apples and pears....but if those 2 are in your final decision round it's up to you

[@otm646]

On paper sure, but the type of person that's going to be buying one of these is not the type to cross shop for a Hyundai. I bet most wouldn't be caught dead in a Korean car.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@@otm646 Kia´s are great - but they compete with a model Y or M3 from Tesla. And totally agree, I would never cross shop a Taycan with a Tesla

[@G82Watts]

Remember porache heavily understates their 0-60 and even HP on paper numbers just like BMW. I guarantee if porsche says 4.0 it's more like 3.4 in real world . Just watch any review it's always .4-.5 better then advertised just like bmw

[@lemagnitio72]

What a disaster. Having to move your foot to a different pedal to slow down. I think I’d rather die.

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Uh....every car ever 🤷‍♂️

[@frankbromley260garage]

Porsche at the price point and power and range will sit at dealers and be bankrupt in 5 years. Chinese markets have proved this us and eu market mite take longer but it’s inevitable.

[@SparkySho]

Ouch

[@Aztasu]

@@omnicognatesnr5947 lol UK is bankrupt. The respone in North America and Asia has been great

[@cbenson513]

Too ugly for me. You can get a lightly used Taycan Turismo variant for the same or lower cost and fairly similar storage/passenger utility. That's the winning move imo.

[@frumpd63]

Me: Man Porsche really builds beautiful EVs, I wonder why I always forget about them Also Me: Oh right, no one pedal driving.

[@danburkland]

It’s such a miss :(

[@computercrack]

Try the car, you dont need it. if you use cruise control you dont need to use any pedal at all. also you can have a very low regen that works like OPD. its much more comfortable to not use this imho

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

Acting like this is the soul reason u aren't driving a porsche just sounds like ur reaching for any reason to justify why u can't afford one. 😂 porsche also has many features that other brands don't. Like a HUD. Which I think is far more important then one pedal driving. Once u have a HUD u never go back. Makes everything easier

[@danburkland]

​@@PEACEOUTXX1 Oh if you only knew

[@danburkland]

​@@computercrack Yea now try in stop and go. One pedal driving is superior for day to day driving. Porsche should give users the option to make it a setting but stubborn Germans think they know best :)

[@rolan2dr]

It’s overpriced

[@galactictomato1434]

That's true for every Porsche.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

It's a sales hit, so you are wrong or you are just too poor my unknown friend ;)

[@ALRinaldi]

It means in 3 years they’ll be much more reasonable on the used market after the new buyers take the depreciation hit.

[@computercrack]

nope its not

[@iambenmitchell]

It’s a Porsche

[@undrachvrsage]

I really laugh at all these "suv"s and their "offroad capabilities" if a grown man can't comfortably slide under it when it's on the pavement it's not an suv.

[@PD55_]

Please eliminate protectionist tariffs so automakers can compete. We need safe clean affordable cars not overpriced crap or ego toys.

[@galactictomato1434]

F those Chinese cars.

[@jeffs6090]

This! Especially from China. Many people don't care about the "China issues" and China racism that some others have. Many just want competition (world wide) to thrive so there's less expensive options to choose from.

[@otm646]

What you're not understanding is that the Chinese government is actively subsidizing their EV production. It's not square competition.

[@SparkySho]

They won’t be premature about it

[@galactictomato1434]

@@PD55_ Nobody wants those crappy Chinese cars.

[@garydmercer]

My 2021 Tesla model 3 standard range plus can go zero to 60 in 5.3 seconds. Is more efficient, but has lower range due to a smaller battery pack. Let me do the math. Bought mine used with 35k miles on it for $25,000. Thank you for this review. You just made me feels so much better about my Tesla purchase! :) But no one peddle driving? Seriously? Fail. Great review.

[@Knnnkncht]

Well but your Tesla is a generic shitbox

[@computercrack]

M3 is crap compared to the Macan. OPD sucks

[@otm646]

I mean if you're looking at the used market, you can pick up a nice Lucid for 60k with low miles

[@bartdeking]

​@omnicognatesnr5947 I am so happy for you and the other 0.023% of drivers that think similarly like you. For the rest of us there is the tesla that outperforms in everything. 😂

[@JoeS97756]

Exactly, my model 3 performance is almost 6 years old, weighs 1,000 lbs less and will smoke all the Macan models and tie the Turbo in 0-60.

[@bartdeking]

Good to see that porsche is almost bankrupt. Would be good to see this company gone after what they did in w w 2 . The sooner the better

[@GonzoMallorca]

Lost white old man.

[@Json918]

It's such a goofy looking thing, You can see how they had to make similar shapes to a Tesla Y for aero, but just put a tacky porsche flair to it. I'll take better tech and better value of a Tesla + enjoy the number 1 charging network in the world.

[@kenan0293]

Better value? Just because something is cheaper doesn’t mean it’s better value. Macan has better ride quality, better materials, better charging and an overall better driving experience than any Tesla. Those things may not be of value to you but they will be for others and that’s Porsches target demo.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

I like the M3 design wise - but the Model Y is just a miss, ugly - but it's a matter of taste.

[@computercrack]

Better tech? Head up display? rear axle steering? Adjustable dampers? BRAKES??? Should i go on??? the Tesla is fine to go from A to B. nothing more. you could take the bus instead

[@PEACEOUTXX1]

Dude porsche has an all new air adaptive suspension amongst so many other features tesla doesnt have. Plus charging speed is way faster in the new porsches. For u to even act like the ugly NpCmobile model y looks better then this is absolutely delusional. If someone made a poll over 90% would say the macan EV looks better. This makes the model Y look even more prehistoric then it was

[@JoeS97756]

@@PEACEOUTXX1 haha because Porsche has so many charging stations.....

[@KyleConner]

Thanks for going, Dad! I had to cancel this trip at the last minute but Out of Spec Dave has us covered 🫡 In terms of pricing the Turbo still seems like an enticing value when you start to spec up a 4S… I’m not so sure how many people in our market would want a RWD version of this car. But time will tell!

[@thebigdoghimself]

Porsche EV sales are in the toilet. I beleive yhe fact that they don't offer single pedal drive negatively affects sales. Single pedal drive is simply a software implementation, so why would you not just offer it for the folks who regularly drive EVs and are used to it?

[@Drumox]

From what I recall porsche engineers said previously is that OPD isn't as efficient, but I do agree that it needs to be an option

[@johnbowater-md9wd]

because Porsche are drivers cars not for fat lazy folk who need the car on one pedal

[@ChargingtheRoad]

That's ashame. I love my OPD on my mach e.

[@niradgupta4075]

Yup. I wanted a Taycan until I learned that it lacks what I consider one of the key features of an EV. I would like to invite Porsche engineers to spend one day in Los Angeles with one pedal drive, and one without.

[@evkx]

Recomend trying a car with propper regen implementation like Porsche/Audi and more. The low tech Tesla way without adaptive regen or blended braking was ok in 2012, but now I is a mystery why they dont offer adaptive regen. More comfortable and more efficent.