Porsche Taycan RWD | The Everyday EV

[@raist315]

The Taycan could definitely get me into an electric car. I'm just not even close to being able to afford one, unless they'll give me 17 years of payments.

[@picklerick7731]

Well, I have a membership in the same club 😅

[@michaellee7933]

Can i interest you in a 30% apr?

[@12ealDealOfficial]

Market is so bad I couldn't afford to rent a room much less an apartment in the middle of nowhere.

[@autoterrainng5052]

@@picklerick7731 uupgig

[@needmetal3221]

That could probably happen if nissan financed it

[@uzah88]

The wagon would make sense as family car but damn does this body style look good in real life

[@tipnoel]

I've seen one for the first time in the "stormtrooper" spec, literally looked straight out of a Star Wars movie.

[@jml9550]

I am still debating whether to get the Lucid Air Pure or Base Taycan. Lucid is more roomy but Taycan is pure driver.

[@computercrack]

Wagon looks better imo

[@jml9550]

@@computercrack It’s a tough decision. but if I was “forced” to take one, I take the sedan.

[@DavidDatura]

That’s a nice retro color on the car. Modernized with a metallic sheen. A very good looking vehicle, inside and out.

[@MrSchn3ll]

I love my RWD Taycan with big battery and air ride. I had a Cross Turismo on order but the lead time was 1 year+, prices kept going up and the tax rebate going away, I found a 500 mile dealer demo car for a price I couldn't refuse and don't regret it at all. The only issue with the Taycan is the availability sucks right now. Great car!

[@pieswimmer1]

How much gold bullion did you have to trade in for it?

[@hamsterbrigade]

How long have you owned it for?

[@MrSchn3ll]

@@pieswimmer1 I sold a 991.2 Carrera T and made $30k over what I paid, and still had 5 figures leftover shekels after I bought the Taycan. Plus I get another $7,500 back at tax time next year.

[@MrSchn3ll]

@@hamsterbrigade 2 months - but it's been flawless so far. Getting the updated infotainment next week so it's nice to see that Porsche is prioritizing software updates.

[@Meekmillan]

Can’t even tell if this one is classical goose sarcasm lol

[@TankRust]

I have owned almost this exact spec car since February. I have over 10k miles on mine and use it as my daily driver. I drive around 50 miles per day. The Taycan has been an amazing car so far. I am a driving enthusiast… I have an NB Miata track car and traded in a 2019 Miata RF on the Taycan. I couldn’t be happier. My wife and I have taken the Taycan on multiple weekend trips and the Electrify America chargers have provided a great experience here in the Florida/Georgia area. Free fast charging for 3 years on that network is a great bonus and was included with the purchase. The Taycan provides a very wide envelope of driving experiences. From ultra quiet and smooth highway cruising to turning hard laps at my local road course, it has exceeded my expectations in every regard. Yes it is expensive, but I feel it is the best balance of price and everyday useable performance of any EV currently available.

[@RelizEkpoJnr]

Cool. For 20k less, one can get a roomier Rivian R1S which I'd consider to be of more value.

[@TankRust]

@@RelizEkpoJnr In 5 years there will be all kinds of great EVs available. Have you driven an R1S or a Taycan? They look like two completely different vehicles to me.

[@MrSchn3ll]

@@RelizEkpoJnr And you can roll the dice on a company that lost $1.7 Billion last quarter and can't deliver cars - so it's vaporware. Oh and the pricing is skyrocketing as well. And good luck with getting the Rivian serviced, I have a Porsche dealer down the street...

[@Mark-rt6fy]

Do you feel the weight compromise when you full send it to corners compared to miata?

[@TankRust]

@@Mark-rt6fy Absolutely. Two different cars at the limit. The Taycan is 4600 lbs compared to my Miata at 2000 lbs. That said, the Taycan is a blast to drive on track. I was honestly surprised at the tendency for the car to rotate on trail braking, as well as oversteer on corner exit. The power is a continuous push as long as you are on throttle. I can’t wait to see what the future holds for performance EVs.

[@MatthewGaither]

As Mark said, I like the spec on this one. Perfect commuter spec that is both an EV and a really great car at the same time.

[@markmiller3279]

Maybe add the LSD, plus the larger battery pack, if only $5k, is a good deal for both range and power. But even those aren't necessary. If this has such decent ride quality and handling in the steel springs, I'd stay away from the air suspension for sure. They almost all fail long before the rest of the car and are insanely expensive to repair. I prefer the wagon for both better rear headroom and styling I find more distinctive (and appropriate for a four-door), but I'd be happy with this. I do wish they'd restyle the headlights. They look like some sort of aftermarket replacement that don't fit the holes they're stuck in.

[@matthewday1242]

LSD? 😂

[@computercrack]

@@matthewday1242 limited slip differential

[@jlolment]

You guys don't get enough credit for your sound mixing. Absolutely top of the heap on any KZbin channel I've ever come across

[@NeonDude20]

Except this is so quiet. Then the ads blow my eardrums out

[@veryrare7647]

@@NeonDude20 ublock origin. but also support your favorite creators

[@pm9625]

Can’t wait to buy one in a few years once some of these RWD become 2nd cars. Perfect real estate daily driver for my city.

[@kabysummit5801]

I swear you two work off each other like no others on KZbin. Just a pleasure to watch.

[@pete1067]

I've taken this particual 270° highway onramp at very high speed, traffic permitting, riding my 1299 on many occasions. And one day a Taycan Turbo joined my shinnanigans rocking licence plate "Silence". He nearly matched my entry speed. And 1299 Pingale is no slouch of a motorcycle. I was impressed. I gave the bloke a thumbs up and sped up. He had no chance of catching me..LoL

[@chriscahill7463]

“What are the competitors to this?” Doesn’t even mention the model S lmao I love it

[@TheMukster]

I was about to comment the same thing. I would think the model S would be the main one being cross-shopped to this given the price point

[@ForgetfulFoot]

​I guess they probably thought that Porsche buyers wouldn't cross shop a Tesla? I know I wouldn't if I could afford a new Porsche.

[@driliagor]

I just tested a refresh Model S for 3 days. Rented on Turo. Build quality and quality of materials is pathetic for 100k car. Replacing a real controls with yoke, sensory buttons and screens is a cheap , not safe trend either. So happy to return to X5 that got it all right. Doubt anyone who test Taycan and MS have any problem choosing a car and not a religion.

[@Joe-nb3fs]

Tesla isn't a luxury brand. It's a tech brand.

[@hazardeur]

@@driliagor I had a Tesla Model X 2018 for rent and i was absolutely shocked by the quality. it's a 30k car in reality really.

[@thomas_2285]

It's crazy we live in a world where $100,000 commuter cars exist.

[@johngalt5411]

For the record those rims will set you back a cool $9K, the larger Performance+ battery pack (with 20% more range) $6K.

[@markmiller3279]

The battery pack is actually a pretty good bargain. In how many other cars can you get such a big power bump for so little? And here you get a sizeable range increase, too. I can't see any reason not to get it. The wheels I'd pass on.

[@C2B1303]

For the record those rims will set you back US $6K

[@motoyoku]

0:55 minor correction: this color is Frozen Blue Metallic, not Frozen Berry Metallic as stated

[@needmetal3221]

It's amazing that a 13 second car can be considered "lacking speed"

[@Roddy451]

Another excellent review and you guys always manage to include some nice humor in it; ie the color of the eyes to match your car video! I remember hating the look of the Panamera, with the odd proportions and whatnot. The thing has grown on me with the Taycan. It is a great-looking car and this version strikes a good balance. I gotta get me one of those shirts!

[@cidworth2260]

It's beyond asinine that a 2023 model year $100k car still has a very noticeable half second response delay on their touch screens (especially in warm weather). Who the hell is actually asking for HVAC controls on a touch screen!?

[@dielaughing73]

Absolutely no-one

[@SamPolland]

The same people who want a digital screen on their toilets.

[@C2B1303]

except there's been a major software update, and the response is now milliseconds

[@Rocket9944]

Exactly

[@cbatiau2528]

I disagree with your comment that this doesn't have a lot of standard stuff, without adding any options. If you're only going to use this as a commuter car, I would only see one must-have option (18-way seats for $1700), and buy this thing at under $90k. Very little else in the options catalogue is really necessary for a great commuter car. If you're going to do long road trips, that's another story.

[@rlb2444]

I would suggest that you asks owners of Taycans, "How many days have you lost the use of your Taycan due to recalls?"

[@desertdetailing7022]

Smart to blur the speedometer! Thoughtfully smart reviews in all your videos 👍🏻

[@paulira7407]

If this was $65K instead of $105K, I would actually lease one of these as a daily driver. 👍

[@ForgetfulFoot]

Then you would see as many Taycans around as Macans.

[@IanCharlesPearce]

Audi e-tron gets closer to that price.

[@demetriosb5758]

It’s a Porsche it’s more expensive than a model S spec for spec wise but drives better and is built better.

[@C2B1303]

guessing you shop at Costco

[@VaunShiz]

Best thing about these is they grab everyone's attention on the road

[@kevinpeirson4692]

The wink got me. I was rolling.

[@ruturaj47]

Lucid air has much more interior space with just an inch longer and handles pretty great too. I think they nailed it when it comes to ground up thinking in EV.

[@Porsche1969]

First of all: Lucid is just a rookie in the industry and will have the same disgusting build quality issues like Tesla has. You can't compare such a totally unknown thing like a "Lucid" to the best EV drivers cars in this industry. If you do so, well, you really have no fucking clue about premium EVs, dude! You can't beat Porsche build quality with a Lucid! And forget about this "... the Lucid handles pretty great too", because it's far away from Porsche capabilities. The Lucid Air is just another big and fucking heavy "electric scateboard" vehicle, where you will have exactly this feeling of "just riding a fucking huge battery", whereas the Porsche Taycan is still a drivers car despite of its high EV weight, even in its "base" single motor version. A totally rookie like Lucid just can't beat a Porsche Taycan. Sorry, dude! It's like you compare a shitty built fucking heavy "thing" an a huge battery to a totally composed and perfectly built German performance luxury vehicle.

[@ruturaj47]

@@Porsche1969 lol, sure 😂. Because everyone at lucid graduated and joined lucid, right? All I talked about ground up thinking about design, the way Porsche and lucid went in different direction. Problem with Tesla was that they wanted to do everything in unconventional way. Anyway please f off 😂. I didn't ask for fanboy to come comment. 🤷‍♂️

[@ruturaj47]

@@Porsche1969 and the most funny things is air has almost double the range, lower price, more space, less weight, better 0-60 and top speed all in comparable trims 😂😂. Porsche handle great but so do air, look at the reviews from others like hagetry. But who I am telling this 😂😂 fanboys don't care about facts. 🤷‍♂️

[@markmiller3279]

@@Porsche1969 Snort. It's perfectly reasonable to compare the actual products, not your fanboy imaginary version. Lucid hasn't been having the same assembly problems Tesla did because, unlike Elon, they hired some seriously experienced people to make sure they didn't. Of course the Air is not quite the same, and isn't trying to be, but for the general driving/commuting they were talking about in the video it's no joke, either. Dismissing the Lucid as a "skateboard" ignores that the Taycan is built almost the same way, with a big slab of battery under the floor. Yeah, they stepped it a little at the footwells, but it isn't that different. It's really the only sensible way to build an EV right now. It also gives a nice, low center of gravity.

[@Porsche1969]

@@ruturaj47 And the even more funny thing is, that this doesn't fucking matter at all compared to a Porsche Taycan, dude! Forget about this shitty and boring "range" discussion, because 90% of Taycan owners certainly won't need 400+ fantasy miles of range for such an EV. Because most these customers still have some other Porsches at home, for using them more purposefully and for longer range. The Taycan is still a true Porsche. It's not a shitty low quality product, made by an unkown little company... 😉😉😁😁 Charging the car at home, every day, at night, is just perfect for Taycan owners. A fully charged battery each day in the morning with a Taycan is all what you need with this car. A rookie like Lucid maybe has to make some "statements" with things like "range", because nobody knows who they are what they are making. All the Porsche Taycan models certainly don't need fantasy range numbers like Lucid and Tesla have. Forget about all this EPA bullshit, because Taycan range numbers are always near 290 miles, whereas Tesla numbers have always been absolute fantasy.... At daily driving you won't have bigger problems with the Taycan range. By the way: electric range from a 130 or even 150 kWh battery.... Is this the future? This is the fucking dumbest thing EV makers can do. In our era of environmental issues and CO2 discussions all over the place, these fucking heavy and huge batteries are just like the wrong answers to a wrong question. The question is: how to get more electric range out of a smaller batterie, but not from a bigger batterie. It's just this typically American thing, as ever: "Bigger is better"... blah blah blah. It's so boring! I see: You understand fucking NOTHING about the Taycan, dude. Therefore it's pretty useless to argue with people like you, who are so full in "Tesla/Lucid fanboy" mode. It's as fucking boring as to discuss with a brain dead fanboy of these low quality products, which are still fucking expensive vehicles by the way! The Taycan is worth every penny of it, just like any other Porsche. Tesla and Lucid have fucking awful build quality, their materials are shit and these cars will be fucking outdated in a very short time. A Porsche Taycan will always be a true drivers and luxury vehicle. And it's a PORSCHE ! Listen, you unteachable clown: You just can't beat a Porsche with such an American rookie vehicle called "Lucid", period! 😂😂 Porsche as a legendary 19 times overall winner of the LeMans 24 hour race (with some 110 more class victories) has more than 70 years of huge experience how to translate all its racing suspension, chassis, steering technology, and for the Taycan also braking recuperation technology, into their road cars and EVs. A rookie in the industry like Lucid has fucking NOTHING to take on the EV table beside pure "range". That's all! But range isn' everything! Daily charging at home with a Taycan is all what you need for almost 90% of Taycan owners. Rookies like Tesla or Lucid are fucking N O T H I N G S compared to Porsche! Wake up, you clown! Their build quality, chassis technology, braking and steering just sucks, whereas a Porsche Taycan is the best driving EV, has a perfect build quality like a totally rocksolid piece of luxury vault on wheels, which drives like a sports car. All these new EV companies just build fucking 2.5 tons heavy and huge batteries on wheels with some fancy gimmicks around it. Mark and Jack in this video are exactly talking about this FACT. Just watch the video!

[@andrewhillman9632]

I think something is wrong with the in car camera, it keeps blurring out the speedometer when Mark is driving 🤔

[@BrazenRain]

Would totally buy a base RWD wagon

[@christopherye4146]

In non-US markets, a RWD Taycan Sport Turismo is offered (as well as the other typical trim levels offered on the Cross Turismo). In the US, the only Sport Turismo trim is offered in GTS guise.

[@markmiller3279]

@@christopherye4146 Which is a shame, and I think a mistake. Anyone who actually uses the rear seat will run up against the limits of the sedan. Or their passengers will - with their heads.

[@markmiller3279]

@@christopherye4146 I guess I'd settle for a Cross Turismo, but buy it in a dark color to help disguise the stupid black bits. Both the dark Cherry (really burgundy), and the Gentian Blue look pretty.

[@simplymusic487]

With the current lease discounts this car is an awesome buy compared to the gas powered cars. Purchased this and E-tron GT and the E-Tron has more power, air suspension etc. but the Porsche trumps it with fit and finish, slightly sportier suspension and thankfully no glossy black interiors. Also the car is just slow in 0-60 but if you look at quarter mile of 12.9 seconds all the time is lost in the 0-60… between 40-80 this car just pulls!

[@trevorsutherland5263]

Yeah, drove a base E-Tron GT a few months back as I prefer its looks. When I asked how much, the lady was kind of embarrassed to say $116K. I make over $200K and with a wife and three kids in high school, a $116K car means we have only one car, not the three we need. One car that doesn't even seat all of us. Then I go look at a '22 BMW 530e at $57K with a more luxurious interior than the base E-Tron GT or Taycan. The Federal credit on the 530e is about $6K and my State throws in another $2500, so the 530e is less than half the cost of the E-Tron GT, seats more, more luxurious. The 1.7 sec difference in 0-60 costs $66K. Ummm, no thanks. Auto journalists live inside a bubble. To call this an "everyday EV" is patently absurd.

[@bassandtrebleclef]

And the rear seat is pretty uncomfortable for the 5' 10 and up passengers. This is a luxury good, so I agree that calling it an everyday ev is a big stretch, unless you rarely carry passengers and are wealthy.

[@microtransactions2661]

Pretty sure the title is in gest, everyday also as most people cant afford kona ev much less step up to the plate for the taycan.

[@JJ-df4kx]

There are enough potential customers who don’t have kids, or have young / smal kids. A big portion of my childhood I spent in a Toyota Avensis which certainly has smaller back seats. Would be fine from my perspective 15 years ago, It’s all about your standards. In my case, this car would be a perfect addition to my single turbo Supra which I use in the weekends. It certainly delivers for petrolheads as a second car and people who are on the opposite spectrum compared to the Tesla buyer as in you don’t need too much gimmicks.

[@Mark-rt6fy]

If you only know cars by 0-60, sports cars aren't for you, good choice going with 530e.

[@d.leesheppard7607]

@@Mark-rt6fy I would argue that OP knows cars exactly as we all do - tools in life that can be fun. To reduce OPs whole post to the century mark comment is banal and superfluoustical. Both words are as appropriate as your comment.

[@markm0000]

When politicians say we will all have EVs they have zero grasp on reality. Who is going to afford a $40k EV, no question something like this $100k.

[@dantesinfernopurgatory7826]

Especially when the infrastructure is decades away from being ready for the extra capacity. And that's a generous figure. Anyone who claims EVs are green are delusional at best. The materials used to create the batteries (read: lithium) require environmentally-destructive mining. But EV proponents won't mention that part because that's the kind of fact which doesn't fit their narrative.

[@TheAdventureAuto]

The average new vehicle price for all vehicles in 07/2022 was $48,000. American's have been obsessed with overpriced pickup trucks for years, yet now they can't afford a $40,000 car? Honda Civic's cost $40,000 now by the way. If $40k isn't in somebody's budget just wait a few years for more affordable options.

[@gearzdesign]

40k is basically the standard entry level now for newer cars.

[@samin90]

A Nissan Leaf is like $27k new before any incentives

[@markm0000]

@@TheAdventureAuto If you didn’t know, our tax code is messed up. Most pickup trucks are for business use, even the highest trim levels with heated leather seats qualify. The other set of buyers have a house far away from cities and need a pickup to move supplies around. The cost of a vehicle is not correlated to the income most people have. I’ve seen a study where even a new $40k car bought every lifecycle ends up as some ridiculous half a million dollars over a lifetime. EVs should be much cheaper to produce but corruption has its way.

[@tlf361]

105,00, damn what a steal...

[@jet_black]

Matching shirts OMG how adorable.

[@kreigerbailey3550]

Portland, JAMAICA in the Building !!!!!

[@con4609]

The back seats are not great for people over 6 ft, your head doesn’t touch the roof but it’s just close enough where you’d wish you have the hatch version. Plus the shape of the roof makes it uncomfortable to get in and out

[@G82Watts]

This is the only EV id consider getting. The noise it makes is pretty cool i guess. Better then any other EV ive heard. Atleast the interior still has bucket seats and everything so it feels special to be inside unlike teslas dull and boring design system. Very good looking EV. The only people that get a tesla over this simply cant afford it.

[@_saifr]

i loved her role in true detective season 1 would have liked to see something like that with porsche commercial.

[@greatheightsu]

Everyday minus winter climates. Looks good tho.

[@timflint25]

I'll never be able to afford this but it seems like the perfect trim to me. It's honestly all you need and the only EV that's ever given me the tingles. I question how good the open differential will be in poor weather but honestly it seems like the most fun option by far. My car is FWD and thankfully has an LSD but in a RWD vehicle I'd rather enjoy myself (and hopefully not send it off the road!).

[@future62]

Damn kind of disappointed this isn't a hatchback. That would help with the rear seat space and cargo room

[@K03sport]

...but there is. Sport/cross turismo thing...however, Porsche added a larger rear volume and charges you for it. But it can still be had as a hatch/wagon.

[@billyhughes9776]

I guess if I lived in a place like Florida and could afford it, would be a great car as a daily.

[@ForgetfulFoot]

I managed to gather up enough money to buy a 987.2 Cayman Manual with the 2.9L. I hope one day I can afford a brand new Porsche. Every car in their range is amazing.

[@TexasRiverRat31254]

Had one of those, 2010 with sport package and other nice options. I truly regret letting it go and would love another.

[@berengerchristy6256]

@@TexasRiverRat31254 I lust after a camaro zl1 1le or a mustang gt350R. once I pay off my loans this year that's what I'm gunning for

[@d.leesheppard7607]

@@berengerchristy6256 be the baller you are and get the v6 1LE

[@berengerchristy6256]

@@d.leesheppard7607 I'm on track to pay off $80k in 2 years, so get a job when you grow up and you too can have nice things

[@d.leesheppard7607]

@@berengerchristy6256 ease up bro no sarcasm intended. I've read the v6 1LE is the way to go. I don't think fun should cost so much and today's sports cars are OP for the street. Chiillll esssay

[@JJ-ic6pn]

Like the basic Carrera 2 on the 911 cost/enjoyment curve.

[@nacholibre1465]

Tesla s not a competitor?

[@rosgoncharuk2403]

Everyday EV for only 104k huh? Gonna need some inflation magic here...

[@buttsexandbananapeels]

Porsche tax.

[@hotdog9262]

@@buttsexandbananapeels expensive, but cheap for what you get in a tesla for the same money

[@buttsexandbananapeels]

@@hotdog9262 I wouldn’t buy a Tesla, either.

[@ronin1914]

"Riding on top of a battery pack" - Mark I'm borrowing this.

[@THX5000]

These electric cars must depreciate like all other electronics. In ten years it will be equal in value to a used laptop.

[@mcspikesky]

You stupid? Maybe as a percentage of original value.. These vehicles will have many useful parts for salvage.

[@ramk2443]

Teslas for the most part keep their value well but other brands depreciate like crazy

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Porsche made an actual car that drives well. It will hold value for that alone. Tesla is propped up by the exclusive charging network, but I doubt that will keep them ahead for much longer. Porsche, GM, Audi and the Koreans are far ahead of Tesla in terms of making good vehicles.

[@currycel470]

@@ramk2443 Tesla will sell dirt chep 🤮

[@dantesinfernopurgatory7826]

@@ramk2443 Until you have to replace the most expensive component of the vehicle - the battery. And that day will come.

[@beachboy0505]

you can buy a tesla dual motor and have money 💰 left?

[@richardh3587]

A few counterpoints: -I don’t think most RWD taycan buyers have/ could afford a 200k-300k gt3 as their 2nd car. That might apply to taycan turbo owners though. -EV or not, I can’t find another sub 100k car that I’d rather have as a daily driver. The taycan has a great blend of looks, seating position, build quality, ride/handling and comfort. Bmws and Mercedes are too ugly, Audis are too numb, and I don’t want an SUV or a FWD based car. The turbo 4 and 6 cylinders in most modern cars don’t do anything for me so I might as well get the benefits of an EV. Personally I could just about afford a RWD Taycan with a few options. No I don’t make typical Porsche owner levels of income but: -we only need 1 car now that both my wife and I work from home -I’d save about 200/month in gas costs which is equivalent to leasing an ICE car with a 15-20k lower msrp. So effectively I could run this car for what it woukd cost me to have 2 mainstream cars. Fair tradeoff I think.

[@savagegeese]

Average Taycan owners makes 550k. Thats straight from Porsche FYI.

[@richardh3587]

@UCgUvk6jVaf-1uKOqG8XNcaQ not surprised…I bet the average transaction price is easily close to 150k

[@maxmeier532]

@@savagegeese Why does Porsche know the average income of their customers a) and b) those numbers are probably based on last year's dogecoin owners. They might very well be making -550k annualy now.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Taycan’s are amongst the most common Porches I see, so they’re doing something right with this. I don’t know why but the RWD Taycan feels like its gonna be the G35 of luxury EVs

[@SharkBoy87]

I have a Taycan and have yet to see another on the road. Cayenne's I see on a daily basis. I'm more North, so maybe that plays a factor in a state where trucks are the norm.

[@ChrisWalksFast]

That commercial segment being imbedded was hilarious.

[@ivanvidic]

Could anyone find a complete commercial?

[@kleinbottled79]

Worth noting the lower running costs vs ICE competition. That monthly vehicle budget gets to be a bit more lease and a bit less other costs. Might make sense to mentally compare it to more like the $85k ICE equivalents.

[@ashishpantstu]

The battery replacement cost is outrageous. 50k+ according to some reports. I would be willing to buy one if the replacement costs were under 20k.

[@hotdog9262]

in frozen blue and some decent wheels yes please

[@zoner__]

I prefer Mamba Green

[@bobbymcjenkins006]

Pro tip: Never buy a base model Porsche. 4S and higher trims or bust. Surprised the heck outa me after driving both that the Taycan 4S/Porsche 4 wheel drive system handles better than even the legendary Audi Quattro system in the rain and snow. No problem driving this car fast as fk in the rain and snow with peace of mind

[@MizuMaloon]

Mark gave me a wink. Had to give it a like.

[@damnmillennials3913]

The Taycan’s owner is a prime example of why EVs aren’t practical for most consumers right now. They’re relegated to a second, third, fourth, etc care for the affluent due to range and charging capability. At that point, you’re certainly not seeing net savings through eliminating gas or diesel costs

[@Traysandor]

It's more convenience factor too. If you're leasing one of these you basically never have to see a mechanic about anything other than tire rotations. Even long term ownership costs of not having to worry about engine problems. Sure, once the battery goes kaput you're probably better off just buying a new one, but until then...

[@ethereous]

Amazing content as always.

[@stevelouie5928]

I wish they made a drivers edition of this car. Make everything analog - instrument and hvac. Remove most of the screens/tech and just put in performance parts and sell it for 70k.

[@matthewday1242]

I disagree with the reviewer- how does it not make sense for longer drives?? If you're driving 550 miles in one day, you've charged ONCE for 25 mins from 5% charge almost back to full. And saved something like $80 in fuel with electricity thats free with EA for the next 36 months. Its a no brainer. Also- I don't believe there is any PTV+ on any Taycan. The rear motor on ALL Taycans have the integrated electronically controlled LSD, not an optional PTV. There is no open diff.

[@karieltheone]

This car should be 60k, fight me.

[@MrDead1975]

it's frozen blue but frozen berry. also it's not just one less motor, the single motor is also smaller than higher spec models

[@bearclaw5115]

Be grateful for cars like this. The people that buy them are financing the next round of R&D which will bring prices down on this tech for the rest of us.

[@Persocondes]

liked, commented and subscribed for the algorithm!

[@wma6019]

Would be much cooler if it was slower and inferior with a internal combustion engine.

[@AKK5I]

Isn't that just a panamera

[@wma6019]

@@AKK5I yup,

[@amnottabs]

I'll take that V8 diesel Panamera

[@d.leesheppard7607]

@@amnottabs speaking of which, I tested a tdi beetle cab (6m). The combo was appealing in theory, but still, driving a beetle cab is gaf

[@WpnX81]

I feel so sorry for anyone in the back seat of this car (or the e-tron RS). I haven't had the "pleasure" of being whipped around in one of these, but just seeing Jack-in-the-Back I can only imagine how claustrophobic/vomit inducing it might be for someone.

[@JohnFromAccounting]

I haven't tried the current gen Audi rear seats, but last gen was so uncomfortable. It was almost torture sitting in the back, even with a good driver.

[@TexasRiverRat31254]

That's only a problem for people that need one vehicle to do everything. they may not have the six figure entry price.

[@yorbalindason]

I’ve had the terror of being a passenger in both a Taycan and eTron. The eTron though is like a private jet lux experience.

[@user-lf7zz8ef3i]

Welcome to the 21st Century's version of the 912.

[@EduardoSanchez-un2hh]

I'm waiting for the hybrid 911

[@xeratube]

It's incredibly cathartic to hear you guys pronounce Taycon (tie-con) properly.

[@chrislangstaff]

Resisting the urge (unsuccessfully) to make a Daddario headlights joke

[@fegik5922]

@3:52 and @6:59 its the way how Mark is always smiling like some mischievous chihuahua pup🤣

[@planbparadise2046]

It's very green and cloudy in this part of Mexico where they are testing 😁

[@Del_987]

iX with B&W and options is like $102k (with air suspension, rear steer) so might compare

[@J-_-S]

that car looks like TikTokers car.

[@Affalterbach1967]

6:44 Todario = "faded porta pottie" in Portuguese

[@duranamo4297]

been waitin for this one!

[@h2muller]

I am very curious as to how you get to put a regular plate on this EV, IL regulation is so annoying with the electric vehicle license plates (and how their licensing is almost twice the price of gas car licensing)

[@yorbalindason]

One thing I don’t have the idea of yet is how these cars will depreciate and hold value. Porsches hold value, some value, forever. Often very well. What will be a 10 and 20 year Taycan be worth? Will the car be bricked because of the battery? Will future owners accept an old Taycan with reduced range because it’s older as a trade off for having a classic e-Porsche? When if ever will there be a path to reasonably priced battery replacement? There are 50 year old Porsches that make a lot of people happy as classics. What is the future of the classic e-car? I’ve owned 3 electric cars. I’d love to keep driving our e-Golf but it’ll be a brick in a couple years. And yeah I passed up all sorts of EVs to buy a super fun 991 911 like Mark says of the GT3 for the weekend. Have driven the Taycan a bit. The 750 HP versions are overkill.

[@maxmeier532]

The answer will likely be coming from independent body shops as it has been for ice cars, I assume. I remember a time before every old car suddenly is more valuable than a new one and back then, cars either went to the scrap yard, became donors or were maintained privately or independently. Like it's possible for old Prius and to a smaller degree for Teslas, independent shops offer battery repair/exchange with refurbished cells, that will likely come for all EV brands. Obviously there is somewhat of a spectrum regarding how owners take care of their car, so there will certainly be taycans rotting away at some point, but it will likely be the minority.

[@medotorg2720]

The descriptor 'everyday' is pretty dubious in a $100k 'daily driver'. But this car is a gargantuan homage to Colin Chapman's dictum "simplify and add lightness", in the sense that this is the lightest 2 wheel drive version.

[@misterhat6395]

Time for me to pony up some cash and get one of these, with the gas savings it should pay for itself within several decades.

[@C2B1303]

think of all the idling gas fumes you and the rest of the planet will no longer inhale, too

[@dielaughing73]

Yeah because it will definitely last that long without ruinous maintenance expenses

[@bRiAn55549]

Gorgeous color

[@andeekim888]

well done gentlemen, great music, too...

[@silkhead44]

a 100000 dollar daily commute car...brilliant

[@vasantos-re4hb]

This is the sedan version of a e911 and eCayman

[@K03sport]

Sport/cross-turismo wagon thingy for me...just ups the Taycan coolness +1, and we all know euro wagons are cooler. Entry fee is the biggest hurdle for me.

[@andrewwoulfe6579]

Tesla Model S Long Range? Not comparing? Same price and configuration except you get 2 motors, all-wheel drive, 400 mile range, and a hatch. Oh, and 0-60 in 3 seconds. Picking on Tesla panel gap is not going to make up for $50k Sorry for sounding like a Fanboi but I really wanted to like the Taycan and shopped the Taycan Cross Turismo heavily. There is lots to like in the Porsche but the numbers and don't work in Porsche's favor. At $75k the Porsche would make more sense. Too be fair, people make excuses for Tesla build quality all the time, but this video made all sorts of excuses for Porsche. You don't need the extra speed. You don't need the range. you don't need heated seats. At $100K I sure as hell do.

[@darrens7603]

Though not a direct competition, but how does it handle compared to Model 3P?

[@kerplunk38880]

You guys have a typo in your description. Should be $105,000. Do I win something for finding this? Was this a test?

[@zero11010]

6:12 you guys need to capture and reuse the “aww, yeah”.

[@zero11010]

9:36 come back to reality. No, everyone with 100k for a car doesn’t also have a total of 300k for two cars or even double the money for a different car. Are you insane?

[@jackholmes8105]

Average taycan owner makes 550 according to pca. So normally i would agree with you but in this cars case its the truth.

[@zero11010]

@@jackholmes8105 Is the average taycon owner the owner of a 100k car or a 200k car? It’s the 200k model. They’re buying this 200k car as their secondary vehicle. Do you think they also own another 200k Porsche? In the state I live in 550k works out to about 340k after taxes. Do you spend the equivalent to your annual salary on cars or leases (where when the lease is over you have nothing to show for the money you’ve spent). Don’t forget how people with this kind of money tend to stick to cars that are less than 5 years old. So, this is 100% of your salary every 3-5 years.

[@sephiros9883]

@@zero11010 a gt3 Will resale the same price or thereabouts, and this thing at maybe 70%. People making 550k a year are fine, don’t worry too much for them lol

[@zero11010]

@@sephiros9883 there is no worry. I just disagree with that statement. Would you spend your net annual salary on one or more cars? Most people making 500k are swimming in debt. Doesn’t really matter how much a lot of people make, they find a way to over extend themselves. But, is that cars … or homes or jewelry or investments …. Different per person. What I do know is, it isn’t common that people are spending their annual net salary on cars. “Hey, it retains 70% of the value” is the same as “hey, want to throw away 30% of your money?”

[@TexasRiverRat31254]

@@zero11010 Perhaps a lot of them can use the car as a business expense/tax deduction.

[@demetriosb5758]

Uh isn’t the model S a direct competitor to this car? I love the Taycan but the model S isn’t a slouch. It’s faster, more range, more space, and better charging infrastructure?

[@zoner__]

Porsches are an investment as they are made to last. Tesla is part of our throwaway culture, built like crap.

[@markmiller3279]

Also unreliable, poorly put together, ergonomically challenged, and not very luxurious-feeling. It does move quickly and have a proper back seat, I concede. The charging infrastructure advantage is likely to dissipate over the next couple of years, and for most is only an issue if they want to take road trips. The Porsche doesn't strike me as intended for that.

[@demetriosb5758]

@@markmiller3279 Unreliable? Model S has been the executive luxury sedan EV benchmark for the past ten years… Its more then held up to scrutiny and has proven to be a reliable car. As for ergonomics, it’s a personal preference and even the Taycan has ergonomic issues people mention (the lower screen controls and upper screen lag on older Taycan models). Yea their build quality is not at Porsche levels but it sure isn’t absolute garbage as people love to make it out to be. Especially on the new model S and their updated interiors. Also the charging infrastructure has a LONG LONG way to go to catch up it’s not even funny. EA stations in majority of stations only have 4 chargers. On top of this, only one is capable of 350KW charging speeds rest at 150KW. Tesla already has minimum 8 stall V3 locations with 250KW charging. This doesn’t even include the actual issues with CCS stations being unreliable and down frequently. There is absolutely no reason the model S shouldn’t be brought up in comparisons because at least on paper, it blows the competition out of the water.

[@marquisdaily7715]

Aren’t Lucid Air, Tesla Model S Plaid and Mercedes EQS direct competitors of this Taycan?

[@markmiller3279]

Well, they addressed the EQS. The Tesla isn't really a driver's car, despite its nutty acceleration. Lucid still needs to prove itself a real car company with staying power, but the Air might be a decent competitor.

[@Fastvoice]

Did I see that right? You have a drift corner on your favorite road where somebody died in the past (small cross) - although there is only open space and no tree?

[@PJ-hi1gz]

that Porsche ad was weirdly Aryan

[@bjwal6]

I can't remember who said it, but buying a big luxury German EV now feels a lot like buying a top of the line laptop computer in the mid 90's - it will be completely obsolete in a year or two which makes the purchase a bit hard to swallow

[@C2B1303]

whoever said it might've been clueless, Fox News?

[@bearclaw5115]

Comparison not valid. Cars have much longer product cycles than tech. But 5-10yrs, sure they will be outdated, however you have to drive something today right?

[@cmontes7961]

I just drove it fast for 15 minutes. Now where's the charger. A car that acts like a cellphone is not a car neither is a car without an engine. 200000 for a battery. Ya right 🤣🤣

[@bearclaw5115]

Off on all counts.

[@silkhead44]

concrete box....it's a 1000 lbs heavier

[@mattbourne4401]

Excellent review. I have a Tesla 3 and want to move to a better driving experience. I really liked the conclusion of the guy driving when he said it’s better to buy a proper sport car with the 100k overprice of the turbo s. I actually have that small sport car (Alpine) so I’ll definitely go for the RWD TAYCAN. Can you remind us what options the car you tested has ?

[@Vageta1999]

I’d honestly buy a used gas powered corvette for 60 ish k and keep the model 3 for daily driving. I don’t think they tycan really makes sense from any value proposition

[@C2B1303]

I test drove this one in Barrington, il: upgrade to 21 exclusive wheels (painted), add premium package is the gist of it

[@smwatson1512]

Cheaper than a 320D as a company car in the UK. Shame they're so massive.

[@JohnFromAccounting]

The Taycan is the same car as the e-tron GT but you can get it cheaper because of the single motor variant. Is this the first time the Porsche was the cheaper option than an Audi?

[@0Turbox]

Same price point, but the Audi comes with AWD.

[@JJVernig]

My thoughts about this kind of vehicle is about deprecation. I do think they hold up better than Porsches with ICE's because of the lack of the technical stuff. And this is also better, with simple diff, no air-ride, there is less to go wrong. And with low deprecation it's a better "investment" than a 60k base BMW 5 or similar. And the nametag helps also..

[@gretchenlittle6817]

Not saying you're wrong, only wondering whether depreciation with EVs will prove to be similar to ICE vehicles? As someone thinking about switching, I've questioned what value a current model will hold as the technology improves over the next 5-10 years?

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Porsche is one of the better brands for holding value. I can think of the first gen Boxster and the 944 as cars that are quite easy to get for cheap. The rest, even old 911s, are barely obtainable. If the EV platform is modular enough to swap out obsolete batteries for better ones in 10 years time, I think the Taycan will hold value better than its competition.

[@wiegraf9009]

I can't see it because the batteries are mega expensive to replace.

[@mrtyrang]

I'd take something like this over Tesla any day.

[@bearclaw5115]

You mean you want an actual steering wheel, strait panels and don't want to use a touch screen to make a 3 point turn? Me too.

[@MrCaptainbirdman]

This is so relatable