Porsche Taycan vs. 2020 Tesla Model S: Which luxury EV is best

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@pierrepierre5554
@pierrepierre5554 4 жыл бұрын
I think that Taycan is cooler
@ColinFox
@ColinFox 4 жыл бұрын
The most awesome thing about this is two of the fastest, highest-tech cars on the planet are zero emission EVs, paving the way for a much cleaner future. And this Tesla / Porsche rivalry will make all customers winners, because we end up with better cars to choose from.
@ColinFox
@ColinFox 4 жыл бұрын
@David Farley They are cleaner by orders of magnitude, particularly if you trace all the materials back to source. Not only are greentech firms getting more efficient and less polluting as time goes on, petroleum is filthy from drilling to shipping to refining to shipping to pumping to burning, and also requires a lot of electricity. They are not even close.
@stalinatemyjewsoof5354
@stalinatemyjewsoof5354 4 жыл бұрын
Colin Fox but.... you’re wrong
@qoodles4032
@qoodles4032 4 жыл бұрын
I don't wanna be 'that guy' but Porsche is much more advanced and has actual experience. Tesla on the other hand, still has a massive amount of build quality issues
@nsdfancy
@nsdfancy 4 жыл бұрын
quaaacked Porsche just has more experience in general, but Tesla has more experience in the electric market. And all of Tesla’s cars (except the roadster) are cheaper than the taycan
@RogerM88
@RogerM88 3 жыл бұрын
@@ColinFox less the big battery pack that need rare metals to be mine.
@rickcobia2732
@rickcobia2732 4 жыл бұрын
That was a fair review. Two different awesome cars for two different purposes depending on what you are looking for.
@alexutzu24ianuarie
@alexutzu24ianuarie 4 жыл бұрын
Taycan all the way, except for the price
@akira28shima32
@akira28shima32 4 жыл бұрын
Which is no way.
@nsdfancy
@nsdfancy 4 жыл бұрын
But please At Tesla’s speed. Lol
@glennwilliams2950
@glennwilliams2950 3 жыл бұрын
Ok so I'd take a Bugatti then since apparently price isn't a big factor.
@S2kBPRIME
@S2kBPRIME 4 жыл бұрын
Best logical, unbiased comparison yet. Thanks!
@mgj43
@mgj43 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. In my mind however the Taycan is a superior car and drives so much better.
@evaristofernandezmarecos1553
@evaristofernandezmarecos1553 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, yeah. But Im pretty sure if you took the back seats from the tesla and lowered it a few inches (I.E., make it into a weirdly shaped sports car) it would sweep the floor with the Tycan. The Tycan wins in style and luxury tho
@Kpizzo
@Kpizzo Жыл бұрын
@@evaristofernandezmarecos1553 no it still wouldn’t. Porsches chassis control is like no other
@TheTmat007
@TheTmat007 4 жыл бұрын
The Porsche wins in acceleration. Acceleration isn't only about 0-60mph. The Taycan Turbo S accelerates from 0-250km/h much quicker than the Model S Performance.
@dryii
@dryii 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an average of the 0-60 value. Wake in the morning, perform the test for each car 5 times in a row, and go by that average for the statistic.
@TheTmat007
@TheTmat007 4 жыл бұрын
@@dryii True. But with the Cheetah update, I'd give the 0-60mph edge to the Tesla.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTmat007 Porsche probably needs a very sticky drag strip to get its 12000 nm of torque on the street. Drag Times had 0-60 in 2.59s for Taycan on unprepped dragstrip and 2.64s for Cheetah Raven on the street. So they are neck to neck within 0.05s.
@DarkExsphere
@DarkExsphere 2 жыл бұрын
I had to choose between these two cars.. I ended up choosing a 2020 Tesla Model S Long Range for 3 key reasons. 1. Superior range - being new to electric cars I was very concerned about this. 2. Price - not sure why but the Taycan felt way more expensive. 3. Charging network - I knew where super chargers and destination chargers were based on where I worked and I felt I could manage using that without needing a setup in my house and it all worked out.
@riyadislam97
@riyadislam97 4 жыл бұрын
AutoPIlot should have been briefed about. I drive about 70 miles on the highway every day, and it makes me so much less stressed. Yes, I have not had any major concerns with it. Frankly, I feel safer with AP on than humans driving, haha. I see Tesla has a Tech company with many data info, and they happen to put wheels on a computer. Porsche is known for their quality, but for Tesla since there are few buttons on the car, it is difficult to provide quality.
@nickmwansa5059
@nickmwansa5059 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder why these people don't understand that teslas are not meant to be driven but to drive you.. They are tech cars
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
@Jen You have no driving license?
@saltysoysauce954
@saltysoysauce954 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickmwansa5059 Cause it's still illegal and not nearly as fun
@Pabla98
@Pabla98 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s my take the Taycan is a Porsche that happens to be electric and the Model S is a electronic that happens to drive!
@ericrolv
@ericrolv 4 жыл бұрын
THIS
@ColinFox
@ColinFox 4 жыл бұрын
@Richard Nedbalek What's the difference?
@nickmwansa5059
@nickmwansa5059 4 жыл бұрын
@@ColinFox Tesla is car tech and renewable company whilst Porsche is jx a car company
@padawan1754
@padawan1754 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickmwansa5059 wrong Porsche is also auch tech company they build first EV
@hambone8826
@hambone8826 4 жыл бұрын
200 miles of range is plenty if you're a hermit who doesn't enjoy discovering the world.
@Mireaze
@Mireaze 4 жыл бұрын
200 miles is halfway across my country. It's plenty
@AkioWasRight
@AkioWasRight 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mireaze It's not "plenty", your country is just tiny, and there's a much larger world outside of it.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
200 miles is when driving at 90 mph and it recharges twice as fast as Model S.
@sirhenrymorgan65
@sirhenrymorgan65 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mireaze Even if you never left your country, it's still a $200,000+ car.
@lillypichu4566
@lillypichu4566 4 жыл бұрын
@@abraxastulammo9940 where you gonna charge?
@eug3nius
@eug3nius 4 жыл бұрын
These cars are not competitors. The Model S is an efficient economy car for people who want to avoid driving and the Taycan is a fun luxury car for people who like driving.
@antoinepageau8336
@antoinepageau8336 4 жыл бұрын
Did purposefully forget to mention the usability and functionality of the Model S vs Taycan? Try going to Costco with the kids in the Taycan. Try going on a long distance trip anywhere with the Taycan. Range isn’t the Taycan’s biggest issue.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
Kids will love the "magic" electric opening tricks of the bonnet caress, charge port swipe and trunk foot-wave. 🥰
@ale3hs
@ale3hs 4 жыл бұрын
$114K for a porsche sounds like a major bargain when the tesla counterpart is $97K - i thought the difference was way more.
@kevinkent6351
@kevinkent6351 4 жыл бұрын
That really wasn't a fair take. You can get a Model S, essentially fully loaded, for $75k right now. This video added on full self-driving, sport options, and the video is a bit old and didn't factor in this month's price drop. Realistically, you're talking $35-40k difference between the Model S long range (current base model) and Taycan base model.
@eug3nius
@eug3nius 4 жыл бұрын
Important countries like China get a rear wheel drive Taycan with more range starting at ~$80K. :)
@ronb4633
@ronb4633 4 жыл бұрын
He added InnoDrive which includes Porsche Active Lane Keeping which is a level of self steering with road sign reading. Also he added the performance package which includes: Rear Axle Steering incl. Power Steering Plus (turning radius smaller than a Model 3) Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control Sport (PDCC Sport) (twists the frame with active anti-roll bars to keep car flat in turns defying physics most reviewers add) Sport Chrono Package (easy steering wheel control of drive modes, Sport+ and Individual Mode) Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus (PTV+) (Electronic controlled rear differential to control per wheel torque when turning) Porsche Electric Sport Sound (the Star Wars/Lucas Studio collaboration sound of acceleration) Yes there are dozens and dozens of other tempting options like night vision, air conditioned seats, massage seats,. 10 Colors to choose in 2020 and 7 more in 2021. No doubt price is different, but there is sometimes truth in the phrase, you get what you pay for.
@giovanni4436
@giovanni4436 4 жыл бұрын
Two cars with a combined weight of 10,000 pounds....
@jd1172
@jd1172 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine how how heavy the trucks will be. Tax them to oblivion!
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 жыл бұрын
@@jd1172 WRONG on both count. Cybertruck will be very close to a V6 F150. Tax is IRRELEVANT, current situation for Tesla is perfect. No Extra Tax & No Subsidies.
@jd1172
@jd1172 4 жыл бұрын
@@Neojhun No, YOU'RE WRONG! A base model F150 weighs ~4,000lbs. A 100kWh Model S weighs ~5,000lbs. How could a 250kWh Cybertruck weigh less? And Tesla does receive subsidies, a lot of them, billions and billions and billions worth through various cap and trade credits. Stop being such a fanboy.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 жыл бұрын
@@jd1172 WTF your numbers are pointless. I did not say the base model, V6 with a Crew Cab is around 5,000lbs. Comparing the most similar spec Cybertruck smaller battery should be around 5,500lbs. 3 Motor long range heavier Cybertruck is closer to a F-250. Majority of Cybertrucks built & pre-ordered will be that smaller battery. It weighs that little because it has Intergrated Battery into Exoskeleton. Unlike Model S which has separate Chasis + Battery Packaging. You have no clue what you are talking about.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 жыл бұрын
@@jd1172 LOL are you a troll with comment like scheme? In a very short time you have likes, that's too obvious dude.
@enoughofthis
@enoughofthis 4 жыл бұрын
People still think that luxury is lot of buttons, screens and sumptious leather seats. To me. Its simplicity and functionality,lot of it.
@benkrapf
@benkrapf 4 жыл бұрын
For me, it's suspension, material quality, and seat comfort.
@venom5809
@venom5809 4 жыл бұрын
That's not luxury, you're just a simpleton paying more money for less. 😂
@lillypichu4566
@lillypichu4566 4 жыл бұрын
@Zayd Mohammad but the user interface is really horrible.
@agentjrb
@agentjrb Жыл бұрын
model s even though it wasn’t leather was much more comfortable than my Panamera. Porsche/Audi seats as nice as their materials may be aren’t the most padded. And to get their most exotic leather you’re going to be paying for it. Simplicity of Tesla builds without endless checklists of options is refreshing.
@TheGomezIndustries
@TheGomezIndustries 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla’s Autopilot technology is unmatched.
@frederic423
@frederic423 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the ability to kamikaze emergency vehicles and gore points is something no other manufacturer can match!
@venom5809
@venom5809 4 жыл бұрын
Well known fact that Cadillac's Super Cruise is better than Tesla's Autopilot actually.
@gust9464
@gust9464 2 жыл бұрын
Range & charging network is key for ant EV IMO. Lastly, Tesla software & updates are amazing.
@sanchitrastogi55
@sanchitrastogi55 4 жыл бұрын
When you have to do a Porsche commercial but you also can't trigger the Tesla fan club 😂
@rupakbag2634
@rupakbag2634 4 жыл бұрын
If price were not a concern, I would still buy a Tesla Model S. Once you really understand what Tesla offers(range, safety, tech, FSD, charging infra etc), everything else just fades out in the background...IMO.
@RANDsreviews
@RANDsreviews 4 жыл бұрын
I like Porsche but for the price of a semi fully loaded 4S can get a Ludacris Model S, Ludacris Model X and two performance Model 3s. I believe the self driving feature on the Tesla is superior to Porsches. Do they even have one?
@Cars-N-Jets
@Cars-N-Jets 4 жыл бұрын
No Porsche has basically a Traffic Jam assist or something like that.
@dryii
@dryii 4 жыл бұрын
You think you can buy those 4 Tesla vehicles for the price of a 'fully loaded' Taycan 4S (~$140k)?
@biplabkumarghosh6300
@biplabkumarghosh6300 4 жыл бұрын
@@dryii A fully loaded Taycan will be closer to $180k than $140k
@lillypichu4566
@lillypichu4566 4 жыл бұрын
@@biplabkumarghosh6300 no actually it will cost 225k
@mariorodriguez3220
@mariorodriguez3220 3 жыл бұрын
If you want the best you have to pay😂😂
@kevinkent6351
@kevinkent6351 4 жыл бұрын
Model S is an afterthought for Tesla at this juncture. From here on out, the Y, 3, and self-driving will build the company. That such an old vehicle can compete with a new $113,000 Porsche is a testament to Tesla engineers.
@sameerhussain2579
@sameerhussain2579 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed price is a very important factor when deciding for a big car investment. I think Teslas are just getting better every year but Porsche has a racing history and they can't compromise on things like build and ride quality like Tesla can afford to do. I guess Porsche is for loyal Porsche customers and Tesla is for smart people. Both cars are priced accordingly like you said. However, Teslas are taking over many other EVs and Porsche is not an exception.
@kevtheobald
@kevtheobald 4 жыл бұрын
What will be interesting is to see if Porsche does what Tesla does with updates over air that add features or make nice improvements. I have not heard much about what Porsche has been doing or plans to do in this area. I just know many Tesla owners have been pleased with how their vehicle gets some helpful upgrades even years after being bought. Nice to see more EV competition and I think we are just starting some of the pay from more R&D investment in the EV sector. If people did not believe EVs were going to take over the market in the next five to ten years, they should believe it now.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
Some have been unpleased because last update seemed to have robbed them 0.1 s 0-60 time advantage with the Mod 3 performance.
@biplabkumarghosh6300
@biplabkumarghosh6300 4 жыл бұрын
@@abraxastulammo9940 Yes the same time advantage which was provided with an update. The car didn't come out of the factory with that advantage (unless your car was built in that short time between updates)
@Lamar-zx5tp
@Lamar-zx5tp 4 жыл бұрын
Remember... The common man is subsidizing these toys, which only sell to rich nerds who think 200 miles of range is "plenty".
@archigoel
@archigoel 4 жыл бұрын
- If there is subsidy, then both common and un-common man subsidize it. - Your gas is subsidised, in fact to a much much larger extend.
@ColinFox
@ColinFox 4 жыл бұрын
EVs are subsidized in order to get people into them and out of ICE, because the climate crisis, in case you haven't heard. And even disregarding the climate crisis, there are plenty of studies showing the health detriments of automobile exhaust in cities & near residences. We all win in the switch to EVs, so considering all the things the government subsidizes, at least this is a benefit to people.
@wakingchristian
@wakingchristian 4 жыл бұрын
@@archigoel That is a very underrated statement. People don't even realize that oil and gas is the most profitable industry and also the most subsidized. How's that for irony, not mention that, at in the case of the US, just received billions in bailout do to the pandemic.
@dryii
@dryii 4 жыл бұрын
The Taycan could get me back and forth to work ~3 times before needing a charge. That is plenty for most, especially since it will most likely be 'full' at the start of each day.
@r3v0l98
@r3v0l98 4 жыл бұрын
one of a few fair comparison videos that doesn't scratch my brain, as a Tesla fan
@alemanto78
@alemanto78 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the well done comparison. As a Model S owner I would add that in it you can easily fit four or five persons and an awesome lot of baggages, still having supercar performances. I don’t know if you can do the same in a Taycan, because I’ve never had the chance to see one inside.
@nasifbidmus9507
@nasifbidmus9507 4 жыл бұрын
The quality of leather and interior of the Porsche is way better than the Tesla. If I own a Porsche, I would not be trying to put 5 person s and bagagges in there. Tesla is like a Toyota or Honda but ev, Porsche is like a Porsche but ev. Porsche don't have all the bells and whistles of a Tesla. In the next 5 years, more people will be driving a Tesla, that's y I compared it to Toyota or honda
@shanet3922
@shanet3922 4 жыл бұрын
Give me the driving experience of taking a whinding road on a weekend staycation in a Porsche. Personally, I agree 5 people that means someone better meet me there, bc 4 would be the limit.
@claudiof.barbano5530
@claudiof.barbano5530 4 жыл бұрын
I can almost buy a Model S and a Model 3 for the price of the Taycan
@justwrite7yearsago324
@justwrite7yearsago324 3 жыл бұрын
Yes agree
@garrylong2993
@garrylong2993 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you’d end up with 2 mediocre vehicles with trash build qualitt
@peterchiung1159
@peterchiung1159 4 жыл бұрын
I bought myself a Tesla model S 2020 and a Taycan 4s for my wife but we both think Tesla is clearly the winner.
@peterchiung1159
@peterchiung1159 4 жыл бұрын
@Zayd Mohammad watch the video above ..it might give you some clues
@BeardAxeMcAxeBeard
@BeardAxeMcAxeBeard 4 жыл бұрын
Ha where are you getting all that cash? Looking at a Taycan, but I couldn't buy both!
@andreasfrose9150
@andreasfrose9150 4 жыл бұрын
Talk is cheap. Typical Tesla Fan Boys. Just talking bullshit. I also bought am model 3 for my daughter a taycan 4s for my son und a taycan turbo for my wife and turbo s for me. Clear winner Turbo S. Model 3 is just a cheap car good enough for my kids.
@nickmwansa5059
@nickmwansa5059 4 жыл бұрын
@Zayd Mohammad lol i think are the people that encouraged companies like BlackBerry to fail when apple brought the new tech... Please stop resisting the change from regular cars to new high tech ones
@biplabkumarghosh6300
@biplabkumarghosh6300 4 жыл бұрын
@@andreasfrose9150 Better to compare the Taycan with Model S not Model 3
@jcl410
@jcl410 4 жыл бұрын
What real world mileage did the Tesla get in your testing?
@dryii
@dryii 4 жыл бұрын
The only issue I have is folks giving the edge to Tesla with a simplistick 0-60. What I'd really like to see is a comparison where the reviewer wakes up in the morning, goes out to the car, and runs the test 5 times in a row (just like a normal owner might do). Then give us the average as a final score. The massaged number from a one off run is not at all 'real world'.
@axdemax4725
@axdemax4725 4 жыл бұрын
Carwow my friend, they do exactly what you've said.
@kevina2052
@kevina2052 4 жыл бұрын
.....not even adaptive cruise control is included on the base model Porsche?!? Win for my base model Corolla.. standard.
@dygardion9130
@dygardion9130 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo same! I’ve got the Camry se hybrid
@mellored
@mellored 4 жыл бұрын
Not even... at that prince. It cost another $2k to add it.
@biplabkumarghosh6300
@biplabkumarghosh6300 4 жыл бұрын
Well, just to let you know Porsche's $3600 InnoDrive only works at speeds lower than 35mph. Porsche said that their drivers wants to drive their cars and they use cruise control only in stop and go traffic. In comparison Tesla gives Autopilot free on all cars starting from $40k and can be used to about 90mph
@kevina2052
@kevina2052 4 жыл бұрын
@@biplabkumarghosh6300 So.. PORSCHE is ran by a bunch of pompous assholes? A longer road trip is always possible. Even in a "drivers car" you might want to set adaptive cruise control on the freeway because your foot is falling asleep and you need to stretch for a few minutes.. I don't understand the logic.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevina2052 He is just pulling your leg, in good to know guide Porsche actually describes the behaviour at 100 km/h, but it has no 90 mph limit like Tesla, you can see nextmove testing the Taycan with ACC at 200 km/h, so 1:0 for the Porsche. ^_^
@reviewguy12
@reviewguy12 4 жыл бұрын
Fair review but you really should have talked about autopilot with the Tesla. This is a huge feature that comes standard on the car. Autopilot makes long highway commutes so much better. A lot of people buy the Tesla solely because of autopilot. If technology was a category, Tesla would have won by a mile.
@ralphmartin7741
@ralphmartin7741 2 жыл бұрын
I'm even more in love with this car
@kendavid891
@kendavid891 3 жыл бұрын
Since I was 12, Porsche was my favourite.Taycan has heritage and class,can't replace that.tesla is new and fast,but has to get those kinks out; crashing and such
@ronb4633
@ronb4633 4 жыл бұрын
I did not understand the point in the video 2:38 where he said you do not have to go through menus to get launch speeds of that they were quoting. The Tesla certainly requires going through the console to enable ludicrous mode. And if they wanted to compare only the base models and long-range they should have compared the times of 0 to 60 for those cars I'm not bringing cheetah mode. But in his summary he stated the correct opinion, if he had the money he would have the Taycan at home.
@KyleHubb
@KyleHubb 4 жыл бұрын
A few years ago, Motor Trend got 2.2 seconds 0-60 mph in the P100D with 1 foot rollout. I think you're a little biased here. If Porsche is your car, no qualms. However, the Model S can get similar numbers without the Cheetah Stance. "In his summary he stated the correct opinion..." Who determines what opinion is correct or incorrect?
@ronb4633
@ronb4633 4 жыл бұрын
@@KyleHubb my point was going into Ludicrous+ mode does require menus. Wasn't that used by MT? I know Tesla's can be fast, no debate there.
@DaveBoxBG
@DaveBoxBG 4 жыл бұрын
The battery is important. Porsche is using off the shelf standard li-ion batteries, while Tesla has special developed batteries that will last for over 1 600 000 kilometers specifically altered to last long in their car. This is the real and most important difference since the battery is probably the most expensive part in these cars and you should choose the one that lasts the longest.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't the 1 mio km record breaking car already have 3 batteries and 4 engines??
@DaveBoxBG
@DaveBoxBG 4 жыл бұрын
@@abraxastulammo9940 with the normal pre-1 mill battery tech and also the first 2 batteries were early production units and did not wear out but had some kind of error so they replaced them because of the error code. the third again was pre 1 mil tech and lasted for 700 000km already with minimal degradation
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
@@DaveBoxBG How much is the upgrade to the new special battery if I buy a used P85 with free supercharging?
@jeremy_3
@jeremy_3 4 жыл бұрын
Model S (as of today) is now $5,000 less expensive and Full Self-Driving is currently only $7,000. Other than that, great video!
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
But it doesn't full self drive, does it? It is like the "I am rich app" for 999 Dollars. 😁
@Shanboss277
@Shanboss277 3 жыл бұрын
@@abraxastulammo9940 I mean its rolling out now, so I guess it does..
@Luckyamor
@Luckyamor 4 жыл бұрын
Porsche Taycan turbo S ❤️
@themasterrnb5867
@themasterrnb5867 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla is thinking how to make the battery better and Porsche thinking how to make the exterior better ! Common sense guys. 🤦
@bayusuharso
@bayusuharso 3 жыл бұрын
I'll choose Taycan for sure. It's sooooo handsomeeeee!
@mellored
@mellored 4 жыл бұрын
IMO: Porche intentionally reduced their EPA range to match how they expect the car to be used. 200 miles of Porche level driving. Rather than 250 miles of Prius level driving.
@pdd3
@pdd3 4 жыл бұрын
It's over 300 miles with Prius-level driving.
@biplabkumarghosh6300
@biplabkumarghosh6300 4 жыл бұрын
Well, EPA originally gave Taycan Turbo S a rating of 200 miles and Porsche voluntarily reduced it by 8 miles to 192 miles It's about the same on Tesla's side, where during model S testing, EPA left the door open overnight resulting in 2% charge being lost. During Model 3 EPA test, Tesla voluntarily lowered EPA range figures by 24 miles.
@KyleHubb
@KyleHubb 4 жыл бұрын
Porsche didn't intentionally reduce EPA numbers. They even hired an independent agency to retest the Taycan in a bid to prove EPA wrong. Stop spreading false information online.
@biplabkumarghosh6300
@biplabkumarghosh6300 4 жыл бұрын
@@KyleHubb Just read the news. They did reduce the range. Probably just to make people think that EPA ratings are wrong and so are the Model S EPA ratings
@venom5809
@venom5809 4 жыл бұрын
Neither to be honest.
@tongtran007
@tongtran007 4 жыл бұрын
With over the air updates the model S gets better over time latest being the new cheetah mode. With that being said Taycan is arguably Porches best car
@jonpetter8921
@jonpetter8921 4 жыл бұрын
Model S is NOT LUXURY. None of Tesla cars are LUXURY model.
@gust9464
@gust9464 Жыл бұрын
Can you do an update video of the 2023 Model S LR & Taycan 4S or RWD?
@JJ-iq5cv
@JJ-iq5cv 4 жыл бұрын
Comparing apples to oranges - let's see how the Porsche does against the new Roadster
@JJ-iq5cv
@JJ-iq5cv 4 жыл бұрын
@Zayd Mohammad Agree 100%
@dryii
@dryii 4 жыл бұрын
A 2 seat roadster vs a 4 door sedan is apples to apples for you folks?
@biplabkumarghosh6300
@biplabkumarghosh6300 4 жыл бұрын
@goodfella21f Why do you feel that those 2 aren't in the same price range? Roadster with Autopilot starts at $200k and Taycan Turbo S (the only one to compare with the Roadster) with InnoDrive starts at $188,600. Not a whole lot of difference in price
@biplabkumarghosh6300
@biplabkumarghosh6300 4 жыл бұрын
@Zayd Mohammad Isnt price one of the most important factors? Just tell me if you had $200k, which one would you buy? Would you buy the Taycan just because the Roadster is a hypercar? The roadster has 4 seats, glass roof. The pinfarina Batista cost 10 times more than the roadster. Only 150 Batistas will ever be produced, whereas 10k roadster will be produced every year The price is almost always the single most important factor, not the performance Just think if the roadster is cancelled, I don't think any of the reservation holders will move to the Pinfarina Batistas. However they will surely try to move to Model S/Taycan
@jw6188
@jw6188 4 жыл бұрын
I don't get this comment....but the porsche exists in real life and the roadster exists when tesla fanboys get salty.
@TheCarCrazyGuy
@TheCarCrazyGuy 4 жыл бұрын
EV sale are struggling. I don’t see them selling mainstream for a looooong time.
@geenos4795
@geenos4795 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla or Evs overall?
@dahhhhful
@dahhhhful 4 жыл бұрын
In terms of luxury, there is no comparison. In one you can see the road though the gapes on the doors, on the other you don't even ear the road noise.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 жыл бұрын
"see the road though the gapes on the doors" WTF stop with the idiotic lies.
@archigoel
@archigoel 4 жыл бұрын
What are your eyes made of? please donate it to science.
@htclements4699
@htclements4699 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review! I'll just have to have them both! Like Rick Cobia wrote, "two different cars." For tech, range, and price, go to Tesla! Extraordinary luxury, and handling, and curb appeal go to Porche! However, there are other solid and essential factors not being mentioned here. These are 1) Safety 2) Maintenance and durability 3) Availability/lead time for orders 4) Model upgrades. My heart goes to Porche but, my brain goes to Tesla! My common sense says to follow the leader in EVs by going to Tesla! My soul's spirit says, screw it and live to enjoy your ride; drive a Porche! So, if I had to choose, I'd have to be smart about it and go with the Model S.
@zecaafonso6467
@zecaafonso6467 2 жыл бұрын
Great point! Even though electric cars require less maintenance, I wouldn't be surprised if it takes a lot more $ to order parts for the Taycan.
@Th3Vik1ng
@Th3Vik1ng 4 жыл бұрын
Don't bother watching this. Zero experience from Roadshow in this segment, just reading stats from websites while showing some media footage...
@BTC909
@BTC909 4 жыл бұрын
Now you know why your ability to read Craig thoughts suddenly stopped.
@matlovesrecovery
@matlovesrecovery 4 жыл бұрын
Both cars are expensive and if I’m spending that much it would have to be the Taycan!!
@PersonManManManMan
@PersonManManManMan 4 жыл бұрын
Great and fair comparison The cars are so similar it comes down to personal preferences and what are you looking for into car weather it's range, handling, saloon quality, self driving or other variables, both look great too, Tesla bit dull, but more like timeless, ironicly Porche is looking more fresh.
@NW-III
@NW-III 2 жыл бұрын
Porsche looks amazing, but I feel Tesla is far more practical. You get the performance, high tech, practicality, more range, and not to mention the ever so growing supercharging network for a much lower price. I would honestly say The Porsche is more of a weekend car (and IF I had that kind of money i would have both for that reason).... which leads me to also feel that this isn't an appropriate comparison (personal opinion). But great review!
@Curryolla
@Curryolla 4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting to see/hear Craig Cole. But, got him wearing a tin hat which was fun to see! On another note, were the Porsche the same price as the Tesla, I'd pick the Taycan. But, I love the Supercharger network. And, I still think my Model 3 Performance is the best balance of price, handling, range, efficiency, features, technology, and performance (just not build quality!!!).
@spamfried894
@spamfried894 4 жыл бұрын
The Tesla *IS NOT* a luxury vehicle. Stop calling it that.
@enoughofthis
@enoughofthis 4 жыл бұрын
How do you define luxury?
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 жыл бұрын
Model S alot more comfy and nicer than more expensive and prestigious "luxury brands".
@paperhouse6282
@paperhouse6282 4 жыл бұрын
It's luxury for people love tech, it's called the luxurious of technology
@UTVH21
@UTVH21 4 жыл бұрын
@@enoughofthis Mercedes S Class.. BMW 7Series.. AUDI A8..
@enoughofthis
@enoughofthis 4 жыл бұрын
@@UTVH21 no porsche in your list!
@nilsfrederking62
@nilsfrederking62 4 жыл бұрын
At highest level 0-60 acceleration 0.1 of a second really count, that can make a cost difference of hundreds of thousands regarding ICE cars - so you mentioned the Chiron, that car costs millions. For daily driving the 0.1 second makes no difference. Regarding interior design I prefer the Model S, but regarding fit and finish the Taycan, but I do not like the "button and screen overload".
@jaccat3019
@jaccat3019 4 жыл бұрын
How you can compare a real Car with a Tablet with weels???
@moradbenyoussef2449
@moradbenyoussef2449 4 жыл бұрын
most reviews show that taycan has more acceleration
@nsdfancy
@nsdfancy 4 жыл бұрын
morad ben youssef the new model s has more acceleration
@alexz8373
@alexz8373 4 жыл бұрын
Only the $190,000 Turbo S. The $90,000 Tesla is much faster than the $115,000 Taycan 4S. Even faster than the $155,000 Taycan Turbo.
@Jorge_Magallon
@Jorge_Magallon 4 жыл бұрын
Better? Sounds like the Taycan. Better buy? Sounds like the Tesla. Although, “Best Buy” often depends on resale.
@Jorge_Magallon
@Jorge_Magallon 4 жыл бұрын
Jen true, but my wife has a Porsche and I’ve been in my neighbor’s Model S several times. Her name is also Jen. The differences in fit and finish and general materials quality are dramatic. It would irk me to pay that much for a Tesla when what I have seen and heard is that those issues are common. Personally those things really stand out to me. She has had a lot of issues with paint. Something she has never mentioned, but I always do notice is that she has several panel gap and other similar fit issues. Again, a pet peeve. Personally, though handling and engagement is tops on my list. My personal car is a manual Mazda with a paltry 187hp because it was the most engaging car I test drove. Jen loves her car, but my proclivities definitely lean towards engaging cars.
@Andrew-ik2uk
@Andrew-ik2uk 4 жыл бұрын
@Jen where will you spend most of your time, on the roof or inside the car. If you have common or premium interiors to choose from I'd prefer premium.
@Warbay57
@Warbay57 4 жыл бұрын
Model S is twice the size in terms of space and is a family sedan. Taycan is a sportscar with interior size on Model 3 level. So they are not targeting the same audience. I think you're missing a crucial point about range, The Taycan needs to be charged twice as often which means its battery life is a lot worse.
@mariorodriguez3220
@mariorodriguez3220 3 жыл бұрын
Tesla it's a bad joke!
@zecaafonso6467
@zecaafonso6467 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla has been increasing the prices to the point that model S is now more expensive than the Porsche Taycan.
@jmoranretana
@jmoranretana 4 жыл бұрын
For the practical person the model S would make more sense (price, range). For the driving dynamic enthusiast, then the Porsche would fit better. However the price tag does play against the Porsche. If I have 200k available to buy a car, I would buy the Porsche.
@gdleo2762
@gdleo2762 4 жыл бұрын
I think the taycan looks better but the Tesla’s more high tech so it’s a preference on what you want
@HygienistDentist
@HygienistDentist 4 жыл бұрын
What?! The Tesla is gorgeous & I love that the look hasn't changed drastically, it will still look good many years from now. Like the BMW, a consistent look adds design value. Compare that with Mercedes that changes their look drastically, you'll have a young but really outdated looking car in no time (except with the G wagon of course)
@alexkohara8764
@alexkohara8764 4 жыл бұрын
having that extra range is a luxury. More range = saved time at the charging station. Time = money.
@ronb4633
@ronb4633 4 жыл бұрын
At 2:35 I believe that the reviewer is lying, menus and long preheating is needed for the Tesla. The Taycan is select Sport or Sport+ which you may already be in. Foot on brake, then accelerator then release brake.
@GG-si7fw
@GG-si7fw 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing I’m leary about the review is that Porsche tend to load their media cars with all of the optional handling options, even on base models that you can’t find in a used car market to get glowing reviews for their handling.
@notsecure
@notsecure Күн бұрын
After 4 years, Taycan had a battery recall and Model S didn't
@dariomijacx
@dariomijacx 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't consider buying a car without Autopilot. It's just wasteful.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
Just go by bus/train/uber if you hate to drive a Porsche. 😂
@Das-Radio
@Das-Radio 4 жыл бұрын
„The Porsche Taycan is the best electric car in the world“
@starshipdriver8536
@starshipdriver8536 4 жыл бұрын
For porsche money I’ll get a real performance ev which is the Tesla Roadster and actually go on long road trips with it.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
Pie in the sky...
@ColinFox
@ColinFox 4 жыл бұрын
@Zayd Mohammad How can you compare the driving dynamics of the Taycan with the roadster, when the roadster isn't even out yet? You have *NO IDEA* what the driving dynamics of it are going to be like. This is a performance focused car, unlike the Model S which is a GT (Gran Tourismo) which is really a fast luxury sedan.
@dhan219
@dhan219 4 жыл бұрын
That will be the plaid mode Tesla model S design to take on the Tycan.The roadster is not coming out until 2022
@reviewguy12
@reviewguy12 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla’s V3 superchargers charge at 250Kw or 1000 miles an hour. Same if not better than Electrify America.
@caesar7120
@caesar7120 4 жыл бұрын
Range, quality, or lower entry fee. Until EVs can offer all three, I'll keep driving my gas burner.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 жыл бұрын
That's meaningless. It's all about PRODUCTION CAPACITY. What you want is not possible if there is not enough Battery Packs being produced. We are in very early stages of Mass Production.
@caesar7120
@caesar7120 4 жыл бұрын
@@Neojhun Calm down, Tesla Taliban.
@dryii
@dryii 4 жыл бұрын
The Model 3 does pretty good in those categories.
@jeromep3182
@jeromep3182 2 жыл бұрын
I think is you want to buy an electric chauffeur car go and get the Tesla if you want the best electric drivers car buy the Porsche . Me I would go Porsche all day long if I’m spending the money I want a quality built car and I love that the Porsche offers wood grain as an option very nice touch.
@Jun31719
@Jun31719 5 ай бұрын
I didn’t know Tesla model S is considered as luxury cars
@marty7a
@marty7a 4 жыл бұрын
I have driven both cars and own a Model 3 Performance, for me this review is bang on the money. The only thing it misses is the UX of the Taycan, it's awful, I just got bored navigating endless "tiny" screens. The Taycan is beautiful in the flesh though, you can't see it in videos, trust me it blows the Tesla away on looks. For me, the Model 3 is just SOOOO easy to own and park and insure and out-accelerate everything else without having to play with buttons or screens or launch. As a day to day driver, a Model 3 is the winner, not either of the cars in the video.
@agentjrb
@agentjrb Жыл бұрын
Spot on, many of today’s owners value software and UI. Porsche menus and buttons are now feeling archaic. They’ve got an amazing look and handling but that software UX is going to be more of a factor going forward Germany needs to step up the software game.
@EvasiveEvo
@EvasiveEvo 4 жыл бұрын
Which one overheats first .
@EvasiveEvo
@EvasiveEvo 3 жыл бұрын
@ᆞ nope, the Tesla limits performance after a the few 1/4 mile runs. The Porsche remains consistent until battery is drained.
@miguellopez3392
@miguellopez3392 3 жыл бұрын
@@EvasiveEvo the battery ofnthe Porsche starts loosing power delivery after 60% and will overheat if pushed too hard on track, model S plaid fixes overheating issues that the model S 2020 had, and is now less prone to overheating then the taycan.
@asaftzadok6647
@asaftzadok6647 4 жыл бұрын
Long term potential issues with Taycan: battery and gearbox. Extremely expensive repair and maintenance services. I would wait for a Tesla Roadster.
@dryii
@dryii 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt they'll have any issues here. The battery has an 8 year warranty and Porsche makes the best gearbox in the industry (PDK).
@asaftzadok6647
@asaftzadok6647 4 жыл бұрын
Douglas York II , there are many equivalent dual-clutch gearboxes like the PDK. It is hard to compare reliability with DSG, as there are much more VW cars and the average Porsche are low mileage. Regarding batteries, time will tell, but my guess is that we will see capacity drop within the next 2-3 years. Huge load on a small number of cells will pay the price.
@asaftzadok6647
@asaftzadok6647 4 жыл бұрын
footballcoreano , you meant 1st generation Roadster, which was a PoC car, not Model S class.
@dryii
@dryii 4 жыл бұрын
I trust Porsche engineers have crafted a solid product. The know a little bit about performance vehicles. PDK is the one of, if not the, best on the market. Other companies have dual clutch, but nothing is equivalent. Your "guess" about capacity? What are your guesses based on? And what experience or data do you have that a brand new model Roadster will be any good? That car is still a myth at this point, along with all the claims to it.
@dryii
@dryii 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the battery has an 8y/100k miles warranty and the entire vehicle (including powertrain) is 4y/50k.
@cigarjefe
@cigarjefe 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla’s build quality is atrocious. Porsche has decades of perfecting what quality looks like. In a few short years, you’ll regret buying a Tesla.
@jasonharris765
@jasonharris765 4 жыл бұрын
Yea but you can also argue the Taycan is more than double the price, so objectively it should be better...
@CuzRepo
@CuzRepo 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonharris765 A $25,000 Mazda has a better interior than a $125,000 Model S.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonharris765 113k vs 96k, your math is way off.
@Stan_33lix
@Stan_33lix 4 жыл бұрын
@@abraxastulammo9940 A base Taycan is $103,800. A top of the line Model S is $99,990. But any configuration of the Model S will have inferior quality to any Porsche. You get what you pay for.
@enoughofthis
@enoughofthis 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on what you are looking for! Once you buy a car with " bad build quality", you should not expect it to get better in your garage!
@khaledalhouli8816
@khaledalhouli8816 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla is around for quite good time. Which we almost know everything about it and we do love it. We how reliable, how practical it is. And on top of the the wonderful autopilot which so far non is close to. Why should to risk and get something new that we know nothing much about!
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
An Autopilot/assistance system is not limited to electric cars though. Still waiting for that 1 million self driving robotaxis in 2020 as promised.
@stehir9260
@stehir9260 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting review. Car Magazine reviews of the Taycan indicate that it's 2 speed automatic is described as a little rough when it shifts occur between the two modes. Not as smooth as the price would imply. Test drive it in shifting situations before buying as this "feature" may be a long term annoyance as an owner. Also the Tesla is a single speed which is always smooth and it tends to regen engine brake when foot pressure is removed from the accelorator making it easier to than the Taycan in traffic which tends to glide leading to needing to manually brake more often.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
Innodrive brakes by itself depending on traffic, upcoming roundabouts, curves...remember Porsche recoups at up to 265 kW.
@biplabkumarghosh6300
@biplabkumarghosh6300 4 жыл бұрын
@@abraxastulammo9940 please mention that Innodrive works only at speeds below 35mph whereas Autopilot works even at 90mph
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
@@biplabkumarghosh6300 You are confusing something, Innodrive deactivates if the speed limit is under 30 km/h. Traffic jam assist follows the queue and holds distance by itself at speeds till 37 mph. This does not mean the ACC with active lane keeping meant for long distance travel is limited to 37 mph. It works at 200+ km/h as well. I don't understand where you get your ideas from to spread such "fake news"...
@march3769
@march3769 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla will comfortable seat 5. Porsche 4. We are a family of 5. I own a Tesla Model 3 and a Porsche Boxster. Both are great cars! But, I feel that the quality of the Porsche, and handling will be better than the Tesla. However, the Tesla provides great value, and the Porsche is expensive, and you are apt to add a lot of expensive options! Style - the Porsche is better looking.
@saddist1Gtown
@saddist1Gtown 4 жыл бұрын
What is a "credible" car comparison test without a focus on depreciation?
@larryhoudini3331
@larryhoudini3331 4 жыл бұрын
If you're worried about the difference in depreciation, you aren't in the market segment that can afford to buy either of them.
@NO3V
@NO3V 4 жыл бұрын
Psssss. People might find sub 40k, 4 year old Panameras etc. and realize that everything Porsche without an RS badge drops like a rock.
@tonytuka
@tonytuka 4 жыл бұрын
Taycan , better seats and comfortable, Tesla way better performance and range . I’d wait til Tesla improves the seats
@saranawaz3945
@saranawaz3945 2 жыл бұрын
If only taycan had more charging stations and range.
@johnm5969
@johnm5969 4 жыл бұрын
Helluva good video
@cyberslim7955
@cyberslim7955 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla is junk not luxury, so comparing both is plain dumb!
@andreasfrose9150
@andreasfrose9150 4 жыл бұрын
goodfella21f did the Porsche realy just 194 miles in the real world?
@Ravidist
@Ravidist 4 жыл бұрын
Lol ford CEO is that you
@awmustang
@awmustang 4 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed that you didn't point out the repeatability of the Porsche's acceleration results. Granted that's probably as irrelevant in the real world as the initial acceleration run. It still would serve to point out the different targets these cars are aiming for.
@akira28shima32
@akira28shima32 4 жыл бұрын
Right!!?? In the real world, Taycan can be driven anywhere in the US.
@MonsterSound.Bradley
@MonsterSound.Bradley 4 жыл бұрын
I still can't get over the 'TURBO' name. Why? Porsche why? There are plenty of other words to choose from. SMH 😎 Good review though.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
RUBOT would confuse people, so it stayed TURBO which is Indian for "car that goes fast". 😜
@rascha7869
@rascha7869 4 жыл бұрын
Strange comment... I own an gaming-computer with a high performance TURBO graphic card inside !!! No TURBO installed, exepct an electric fan for cooling... what about that ?
@MonsterSound.Bradley
@MonsterSound.Bradley 4 жыл бұрын
@@rascha7869 What brand / model graphics card has Turbo in their name?
@dangrass
@dangrass 4 жыл бұрын
What about interior dimensions and cargo capacity?
@MrSinobi52
@MrSinobi52 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla has a launch mode, ludicrous mode.
@dryii
@dryii 4 жыл бұрын
The Taycan also has a launch mode.
@GOVAUS1
@GOVAUS1 4 жыл бұрын
Porsche has always been a master of handling. I's still get Tesla for constant updates and lots of superchargers. S can be your daily car and your weekend sports car. Taycan can not. Tesla is also upgrading the propulsion and battery very soon. It'll be no contest very soon.
@someone4860
@someone4860 2 жыл бұрын
if you want long-lasting cars then sure you should go for Porsche-
@agentjrb
@agentjrb Жыл бұрын
As a former Panamera owner I wish I would have unloaded it before my 6,500.00 AC repair, the thousands in brake jobs etc. Porsche can last but you’re going to pay In maintenance costs, if servicing at the dealer they’re paid on commission…. I’m done with that model where the service becomes a major revenue driver and these EV’s can’t be serviced outside the dealer…. I would never own a Porsche outside warranty or buy pre-owned high mile because they’re designed to return to dealer for service revenue. Porsche service advisor told me the Taycan will be serviced the same minus oil changes… I also don’t want to sit my car at the dealership for weeks while it updates software, same thing was told to me by the dealer.
@henkenmiekevandenberg4694
@henkenmiekevandenberg4694 4 жыл бұрын
Tesla offcourse.
@KalifUmestoKalifa
@KalifUmestoKalifa 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Plaid Model S, it should blow Porsche out of the water in every category except design
@michaelmadsen4923
@michaelmadsen4923 4 жыл бұрын
For me the joker is in FSD. That's why I wouldn't buy any other car than a Tesla. It may still be 1-2 years away (with FSD I mean no hands on wheel at any time). At least with Tesla it seems to be within reasonable reach. For any other manufacturer it's more like: not even in the horizon.
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think of Openpilot and NVidia's robotaxi hardware with 2000 TOPS?
@archigoel
@archigoel 4 жыл бұрын
New Plaid with tri motor should blow Porsche in handling and performance.
@jasonharris765
@jasonharris765 4 жыл бұрын
I mean possibly but the car hasn't even made an official Nurburgring time yet..think they should start by just building a better car first...
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 4 жыл бұрын
Why does it need to be reworked right now, because it got too complex?
@ColinFox
@ColinFox 4 жыл бұрын
@Zayd Mohammad Your ignorance & prejudice is showing.
@Jaljoan
@Jaljoan 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think, tesla could beat Porsche in handling.
@nickmwansa5059
@nickmwansa5059 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jaljoan Tesla has achieved that recently with a much cheaper car lol ( model 3 handling is cool)
@TomDang
@TomDang 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think we can compare cars anymore without discussing the technology offered by the car. I don't mean just UI. I mean, functionality via your car's software. I'm talking over-the-air updating that improves not only your interface to the car, but can actually improve the performance in some cases. Creating a dash cam and sentry mode using the car's cameras. Yes, even dog mode among other features. Again, all added in an over-the-air update.
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