Is Tesla Model S Raven a Good Buy in 2020?

[@ColinFox]

Ben - almost all of your acceleration tests were on a curve. That's going to eat into your acceleration, because instead of putting 100% of the tire's traction budget towards making you go faster, some of that budget had to be spent to change your direction, and the amount necessary to turn increases as you accelerate. There's a reason why quarter mile strips are not on corners.

[@03056932]

clutching at straws, this is NOT making 0.6 seconds difference

[@kevinkent6351]

But real world testing includes ramps.

[@skepticmoderate5790]

@@03056932 It absolutely will. You don't know anything about car performance do you?

[@Devinfrbs]

Forgot about rollout.

[@_Just_V_]

And he didn’t specify whether or both these tests were done in ludicrous+ mode...

[@stevenallen889]

I own a 2019 raven s model. It’s the best car I’ve ever driven. Period

[@LarsRR]

Steven Allen congrats on the Great car. I would probably still not recommend beyond get the car still. We will see a 400 mile range S this year, and even a plaid, that will be super powerful. That doesn’t make the Raven worse, but it makes it worth less (not worthless). I had the issue when getting the 100D late in 2018, and losing 50k in value within 4 months.

[@stevenallen889]

NinjaNick 07 it’s an option. It’s the performance version. It replaced the 100d version. The raven has some new style of air suspension. It didn’t feel much different then the 100d I test drove but they say it’s better

[@clu4u]

Lars, Long Range version has been upgraded from 370 to 390, which should be more than enough.

[@clu4u]

NinjaNick 07, there a two versions, Long Range and Performance. Both have the Raven suspension

[@cjpardo100]

G G have you ever test drove Etron or IPACE. I was a huge Tesla fan until I drove them. Tesla is not the best anymore.

[@stefanmarxmeier3179]

If you don’t need the size, buy a 3. If you want the performance, wait for the Plaid.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Or roadster

[@stefanmarxmeier3179]

Teslanomics with Ben Sullins Well if you get em for free...

[@thisbass]

If you want the range, the the Long Range - which is what I did, and if you don't drive like you stole it I am getting about 85-90 percent of advertised.

[@stormgemios1343]

@@BenSullinsOfficial if you're lucky enough to be one of the couple of thousand who can get one

[@atefetacheese5401]

AteFetaCheese I can’t buy a Tesla because of the interest rate. The same goes for all practicing Muslims who can’t afford to buy it in full. Wish someone is able to bring that into Elon’s attention. Basically Muslims can’t deal with interest. My dad ended up buying it in full but not everyone can do that.

[@WhatsInside]

Until Tesla upgrades the S and X 8 year old battery packs, Model 3 is the only *NEW* Tesla in 2020 worth buying. My 20-7 X charges faster than this Raven S at V3! Crazy!

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Agree for *new* options, a 2yr old p100d is a good buy I think

[@EnellGmz]

Are they really using the battery technology from 8 years ago? If that's the case, where did the better range and performance upgrades come from? Just from the motor?

[@KyleHubb]

EnellGmz Believe me, the P100D is much better and has a more consistent 0-60 than the Raven. This update is a disappointment.

[@jrgenramdahl123]

@@EnellGmz Fosile fuel cars has used the same fuel for MANY years, but still have gotten better milage.... Same goes for electric cars...

[@rogerstarkey5390]

ALL battery cells, packs and BMS will get an upgrade... All cars and it will impact storage. Biggest news of the year (imo)

[@rl_31123]

I'll wait for an interior refresh and fast charging like the Model 3 has

[@paulchen508]

fast charging sure, but what would you changed in the interior? :)

[@rl_31123]

@@paulchen508 I like the widescreen the model 3 has, and the center console on model 3 is more usable, some storage on door panels would be nice, nothing else really, lol im just being picky, its an amazing car

[@paulchen508]

@@rl_31123 okey i see and totay agree. The doors really need a storage area

[@canderson7776]

If they do that they better leave the dashboard alone!

[@PokeTexas_TCG]

Christian Anderson the model 3’s lack of dash are what’s definitely put me off getting one tbh

[@Russ72581]

I have the long range 2020 Raven S (non-performance). I don’t think it’s worth the price, non-performance or performance. I bought it fully knowing it (purely because it’s been my dream car and I simply wanted it). You get a LOT more bang for your buck in the model 3. And I would’ve bought the model 3 if it looked more aggressive on the exterior.

[@kabysummit5801]

I just bought a used 2020 model S long range plus. My GF has a 2021 model 3. I love all 3 of them. But the S to me is the quintessential Tesla. I like it over the 3 for the road trips and the hatchback utility. The model 3 is more nimble and some would say it's more fun, however I do have problems with getting in and out in the 3.

[@e-xinfinity3817]

What kind of bang for your buck do you get out of the 3 compared to the S?

[@Russ72581]

@@e-xinfinity3817 All the features that are similar between the 3 and S: EV, fast acceleration, fast charging, large screen, autopilot, etc. The only *noticeable* things S offers above the 3 are physical: more leg room (I'm 6'1), hatchback, proximity door handles, slightly longer distance (only noticeable on road trips), aggressive looking exterior, and clout (I guess) when strangers actually know how much more it costs. I love my car but are those worth the an extra ~$46k (basically another car)? Imo, absolutely not

[@e-xinfinity3817]

What years does this apply to? I’m trying to figure out if I want a 3, X, or S I love the styling of the S and I’ll be doing a road trip once a month, I’m a single guy w/no kids. The X is cool because I can write off much of the vehicle with section 179. Also what years would be ideal to look at considering the new tax credits that are coming in to play? Are there any years of model S that match the features of the 3?

[@jacobknollinger4943]

69% efficiency. Nice.

[@kusaweir3074]

NICEEE

[@Krit.Krisam]

NICE

[@Pecaal]

NOICE

[@trisailor3318]

"Efficiency" in this context meant that he got only 69% of the range that was displayed/predicted. Not so nice.

[@jacobknollinger4943]

@@trisailor3318 aight

[@chenxubin]

I love the S, can't stand the interior of Model 3 with hard plastic finishes. Also S looks 10 times better. If you put a 3 next to a S you will understand what I mean.

[@flaviomuratore]

Xubin Chen i feel the same way, only opposite direction. The 3 looks current and the S looks dated.

[@_diogenes1]

Don’t get caught up on the make up - the heart of technology is on the 3. - battery - charging system - touchscreen response - computer system (graphics/ video) - motor No brainer

[@rogerstarkey5390]

"can't stand"...... Drama?

[@joewhip9303]

We have a S and a 3. I much prefer the interior of the 3. You have better vision with the lower dash. I much prefer the screen over to the left as I don’t have a light behind the wheel. Less glare is important to me at night. I have to readjust driving the S and really have come to dislike the screen behind the wheel.

[@jayj4154]

​@@_diogenes1 we have a S and 3, not sure what you're talking about - you sound an owner of a 3 and drove a loaner used S S has same or better everything except charging speed (which isn't big deal imo). S more than makes up for it with size, performance, suspension, luxury vs bumpier ride (with model 3), looks. Is it worth double the cost? Honestly... yes. 3 drives like a honda accord which is compliment to honda, model S is extremely smooth and supercar sleeper

[@SoCalMikey]

Launch Mode (0-60 in 2.4?) 1) Enable Ludicrous Plus Mode (Wait until Ready) 2) Change Suspension to Low 3) Enable Warp Mode Easter Egg (Yes Bring it On) 4) Floor the Brake and hold 5) Floor the Gas then release 6) Display says “Launch Mode Enabled” 7) Floor the Gas (within 8 seconds) 8) Release the Brake (within 4 seconds)

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Interesting, will need to try it next time!

[@SoCalMikey]

Teslanomics with Ben Sullins Yeah, I think Launch Mode is the ticket to the 2.4 0-60 time on a drag strip probably with wind in your favor and some luck. I will be able to test it more soon.

[@djprojectus]

That is ridiculous! 8 steps?WTF

[@ouethojlkjn]

@@djprojectus this is deliberate to ensure you don't have launch mode enabled all the time as it causes excessive wear on the drive train. other performance vehicles achieve the same thing by only allowing you to use their launch mode maybe seven or eight times between getting a service.

[@djprojectus]

@@ouethojlkjn Still 8 steps? Maybe 2 or maximum 3 but 8 steps??? Wtf ,are we breaking the Fort Knox? If all this launch mode is so detrimental to the Tesla hardware then don't allowed in the first place!

[@ak_hoops]

"Overall car winner for past 70 years" that's a huge statement and many, especially car enthusiasts, would be very upset with that. The thing is, I completely agree. Put it like this: an NY Times article argued that Steph Curry was the N.B.A. Player of the Decade (not Lebron) this is because Steph literally changed the entire game. From NBA to grade school kids at the rec center. Tesla, specifically the model S, changed the automotive industry. Now EVERYONE is trying to make a good electric car, especially as we move towards renewable energy. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk

[@jacksonritchie7672]

Ben pulled a Marques Brownlee 😱 “So I’ve been driving this new car for a week now....”

[@jacksonbrock3676]

I was thinking the same thing lmaoooo

[@asdf51501]

He did pull a "so I've been using this Mac Pro for a few months now" recently. :P

[@kimonogryphon3770]

I think the S overall is a gorgeous car, and I would have been perfectly happy with the standard S model. The styling is beautiful, mainly the front end style, the wheels, and such. And of course the acceleration should be noted as well. However the additional cost of the higher performance edition is far out of my budget, It wouldn’t be a good choice for me personally. Like I said, I would be happy with the standard S if I was given a choice of the S models. Great video as ever Ben, to a hopeful Tesla 3 owner maybe within the year.

[@TTemobility]

Hello Ben and greetings from me and Arnie from Germany . We bought a fresh Performance Raven Model S in August 2019 and enjoy it. Unfortunately after 20k kilometer the rattle from the Shocks in the front came back, like a lot of other Model S suffer from. The ride on the ne adaptive Suspension is great so far.

[@jpwe10]

Set suspension to stay in low all the time. Will reduce or stop the rattle under acceleration caused by the CV joints

[@jordanbanko5347]

T&T Emobility, Ove Kröger have you taken it back to Tesla to file a complaint?

[@TTemobility]

Jordan Banko sure appointment 2.4.2020

[@TTemobility]

jpwe10 it’s not the driveshaft rattle

[@cablewaffel7957]

I feel like the Model S is the Tesla that everybody forgets about. The Model X has all of the features, the Model Y is the new one, the Model 3 is the one that everybody has, but the model S is just kinda in the background. The Model X is the car I think of when I hear the word Tesla, but the Model S is my current favorite because of the style and performance.

[@viper5ko]

Wish they would let us upgrade MCU1.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

It's not slot in. There's wiring etc to consider.

[@viper5ko]

@@rogerstarkey5390 it's plug and play. Verygreen did the upgrade himself

[@vawlkus]

@@viper5ko not all of it plug'n play. Some of the accessories (bluetooth antenna, LTE hookups, etc) are non-standard and vary from car to car. There's also the cameras being different between 2.0 and 2.5. I'm very hopeful that MCU1 can be upgraded to MCU 2, but I'll wait and see.

[@viper5ko]

@@davidbeppler3032 you guys are wrong. Check greens twitter. Ap1 you need a harness. But 2.0 or 2.5 is straight plug. No harness

[@LuanNguyen-ls5rt]

Love the model S and wouldn’t go with another luxury sedan if I were in the market. Yet, it is easily the worse car Tesla makes. I had p85d. Loved it. Currently have an X. Just frustrated to see the neglect towards the S. No significant changes. Tech is behind the 3. Battery tech is old. Even the X has other features like soft close doors and falcon wings that make it different. All the attention goes into the 3. Wait for the update or get a 3.

[@Jimbojam]

or get the Model Y which will be out very soon!

[@rogerstarkey5390]

The battery? Expect a new battery and pack(!) In 2-3 months.

[@TheSteinbitt]

Luan Nguyen Model S is probably the most reliable car they make. If you don’t have to have an X for the space then you shouldn’t get it as it’s the same platform as MS, worse range and consistently rank at the bottom of quality in the SUV category every year.

[@ajacobso9]

I ordered a 2020 model S even though fully aware that there might be a model refresh. Changing a beautifully designed car solely for the purpose of making a change is not something I believe is in Tesla‘s DNA.

[@chazbaz1496]

Have a subscription with this guy for ages. Have not been in my recommended list for a while. This is a really good vid, interesting and informative. Will remember to check on more often.

[@maxschremmer1334]

Looking to buy first Tesla, should i get a model 3 performance or a model S long range?

[@Michael4Reall00]

We need a full refresh for Model S and X in 2020

[@Mike-kr5dn]

No we don’t I just got a model s XD

[@matthewgroza]

why? the car is timeless and still looks relevant. it was 10 years ahead of its time in 2012 and it’s still ahead of its time today. what other car do you know of that hasn’t changed in 10 years and still looks current? the 2016 grille change was a smart change and the only thing needed.

[@pieterdannaux8754]

I don't get why so many People say this. It's not even that old and it still looks sooooo new this design Will stay relevant in many years to come

[@chenxubin]

Best Tesla period. I agree with you Ben.

[@vivekathawale5615]

Ben: So Tesla launched a new vehicle and I've been using it for a week. Marquees must be so jealous 😂

[@Rsmith420]

Raven been out for a minute though

[@subsjssnnssn4578]

15-20% of driving economy is efected by the driver, just saying Ben

[@oisiaa]

I routinely beat my Model 3's rated range because I drive like I'm chauffeuring the Queen.

[@Michael-cf9lf]

It sure is the one to buy for all the reasons mentioned its an awesome car, oh and right if i have a 100k budget to drop on a car.

[@ajbucks]

I have a P100D and I’ve never hit 2.4 0-60. I’ve gotten a bunch of 2.6s and a couple times in the 2.5s. You need to be in Ludicrous +, fully heated to 50C, at least 80% charge, and use launch control. It doesn’t appear you used launch control. Good video though 👍

[@jpwe10]

2.4 is with the 1ft rollout

[@ajbucks]

jpwe10 lol thanks, I wasn’t thinking about that.. now it makes sense.

[@ajbucks]

I tried 0-60 this afternoon in Lud+ but without using launch control and I did a 2.86, and a 2.91 at 82% soc.

[@dendipp]

State of charge and temperature of air and battery, could be factor's as well, right ?

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Yeah lots of things, that 2.4 is really an ideal scenario

[@wermagst]

@@BenSullinsOfficial Yet everybody hates on Porsche for advertising realistic numbers achievable in everyday driving 🤔

[@creamyalmondz]

The performance Model S is a freaking beast and I love it! I am OBSESSED with Tesla!

[@SoCalMikey]

How many miles were on this car and when you used draggy, what was the battery level? I have a 2020 Performance but it has the newer thinner seats with 19s. I just got draggy too so I plan to do some tests as well on and off the drag strip. First try in Ludicrous (Not Ludicrous Plus) with 3 other passengers, cold, was 0-60 in 3 flat. I feel the difference in new air suspension vs old is night and day. Nice review

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

90% SoC, Ludicrous+ enabled and battery warm, didn't know about the launch mode thing, really I think my times were slow due to the uneven ground and somewhat damp road

[@gospodin0]

I was listening to the suspension portion of the video. I have read that the raven adaptive suspension is smoother on the non-performance Model S. I haven't heard anyone confirm this, but maybe having the non-performance raven edition might make for a noticeably smoother ride.

[@obmitty1]

Is it a little slower on the 21 inches?

[@Fearinator]

Where is the MKBHD link??

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Forgot to add it, thanks for catching that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2XRnJmAoLJ-p80

[@Lamppostout]

The problem is I’ve essentially been looking at the same car since 2012. The new front fascia doesn’t alter the entire look of the car: a handsome sport back that could lose some weight in that rear.

[@PremiumElectric]

KZbin is now too many commercials. Could pay youtube netflix cost for their ads. But, that doesn’t stop: embeded ads, sponsors, patreon, merch commercials. KZbin was for a quick entertainment fix. Now it’s riddled with ads. Even the elevated quality of creators hard work isn’t going to be enough to save this platform. Creators deserve to be able to make some money. There is value there. But, I’m being repelled from it with all the ads. For a quick fix of entertainment...I don’t want to spend time watching ads. It’s like back in the day when we would pay for a newspaper or magazine and be full of ads. Paying for ads! KZbin is ripe for going the way of newspapers and magazines. I don’t think KZbin can save itself. So, a replacement from someone else is going to be needed.

[@ParisLondonSinger]

Which touchsreen do you prefer? The model s or the model y?

[@tristanskylark]

Can it do 250KW charging like the model 3?

[@rickdeckard9810]

13:12 I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the Model S is the only good looking Tesla. Tesla could use some fresh ideas, but if they can sell the Cybertruck they can sell anything.

[@espencapable]

Good and unbiased review, covering both positives and negatives.

[@jimbrown2701]

Can anyone point me in the direction of where I can get a comprehensive list/chart of what features, specs that have been added and subtracted with each release of a subsequently newer Model S? I'm mainly interested in 2017+. Thanks!

[@charliebason8791]

Do u guys get the Kia E Niro in the US?

[@andromeda9340]

In California,yes :)

[@jonathanl2748]

Are the 21” turbine wheels really that much more a harsh ride than the 19” wheels? Do the 21” wheels crack easily?

[@asthasingh7430]

FYI - The 2.4 seconds is measured with 1-foot roll out which is pretty standard with most publications.

[@03056932]

it really is not standard. where you are getting that assumption from is beyond me

[@TasimanaOG]

03056932R he means with most testing ie. motortrend (who i hate but still) got 2.28 0-60mph

[@brocklee1996]

The S is amazing and beautiful but the model 3 performance is just too good of a buy for the money. I cant justify the extra $50,000 to get an S model.

[@TasimanaOG]

in australia the difference is 80,000 aud which is quite crazy but then again a lamborghini huracan can cost 800,000 with little to no options 😔

[@umah.]

How about the steering and handling? Is there any noticeable improvement?

[@alexmartens5276]

Can you use a phone to lock/unlock a 2020 Model S like a Model 3?

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

yes

[@EnzoBergstrom]

Did you turn on lutacriz mode? When you tested

[@rwdplz1]

I'd still take a used S over a new 3 because of the horrible 3 minimalist dash.

[@DrTed3]

I hear that in the next Model 3 the screen will be gone, but it includes a Neuralink brain implant, so the screen is unnecessary.

[@MIDASMaverick]

torn between this and the model y... im 6'4 what do you guys think

[@N8zAdventures]

Hey Ben, do you know if Model S will be allowed on Tesla network and if so would a used model S be allowed after AP2?

[@GunDaddy818]

Question: why would you buy a Performance Model S over the Long Range Plus? (The LRP has more range and is $20k cheaper.)

[@viper5ko]

You should do a video on the HW3 upgrade. Specifically how they are only upgrading MCU2 AP2.5 cars. MCU1 cars are not compatible

[@chuckhill5698]

Why would Tesla sell FSD with HW3 upgrade to mcu1 owners if not compatible? If this is true, mcu upgrades better be available or refund the payment for FSD!

[@adolfodef]

@@chuckhill5698 They will rather "bite the bullet" of having to do a huge "re-compatibility" overhaul of all of the old cars that were bought with the "promise" of a future F.S.D. (not as many as you may think); rather than the P.R. hit of giving money back. [If technically impossible -> NEW FREE CAR! ].

[@MacGyver1908]

Yes! It is the perfect car for me. Lots of space for my family, fastest and best looking Tesla with mind blowing performance 🥰 I have a Raven S Ludicrous 👌

[@orangemarley5086]

Hey, why would you get the 19" wheels? Does it have anything to do with 21” wheels having a harsher ride?

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Yeah, and range. I would probably get HREs or something different if I wanted a high end wheel

[@AbdullahTech]

At 3:25 is the back door not set right?

[@RedwoodGeorge]

No mention at all of the Permanent Magnet motor in the Raven S and X models or that it will do true one pedal driving which, until now, was only available on the Model 3?

[@Carlos-qf7sd]

The only public V3 chargers? What about the Fremont factory V3, and the Kettleman City V3 that opened last Thanksgiving? There have got to be more as well, those are just two that come to mind. I guess this was recorded a while ago.

[@MAGApepe]

does it have hardware 3 ?

[@matteogauthier5773]

to get good launch lower suspension as low as possible, turn on ludicrous plus and wait for battery to heat, then use launch mode.

[@djprojectus]

What is the wait time for battery to warm up?

[@daisame]

Do you get any state rebates on buying used EVs? In NJ they have just signed a new law for one rebate on EVs, and they also don't charge sales Tax on EVs. What I don't know is if those rebates count on used vehicles. That can be over $10K of discounts. on a new car. Not sure if it is applies to used.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Not out in CA

[@teropiispala2576]

Did you used the launch mode? It is required for max performance. Those asphalts did look being over they best days, so there is propably room for improvements before going to race track

[@EnellGmz]

I didn't get the part where you said that the model 3 is better. Is it in charging speed or battery technology?

[@saitamazi]

In both ways.

[@Smartboy14727]

There's a V3 16 stall in Anaheim next to Angel Stadium.

[@Arpin_Lusene]

4:19 Your dragy 0-60 tests made it seemed like you press the pedal too soon? You always pressed the pedal way before countdown turned green.

[@johnm9775]

Can you run a segment on Tesla Insurance? I have only heard a little, but interested what people's experiences have been. thanks.

[@a.j.williams195]

How do you borrow a car from tesla?

[@tekolicious8310]

can you get free super charging on the Cyber Truck???

[@haywoodjablome234]

Is that TeSla or TeZla. Still looking for that Z.

[@tristanskylark]

We need 250KW charging on S & X like the 3.

[@stevenguyen292]

I just order the 2020 model S long-range plus and after watching this video and reading all the comments below I am wondering if I should cancel my order. especially I trade-in my 1-year-old Lexus LS500 Fsport for this model S.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

If you can find a similar used one for a lot cheaper I would go that route

[@TheJoeSwanon]

For that amount of money the better install a heat pump like they have on the model Y it is ridiculous that they do not

[@bretthuber7549]

What year was the Model S & X MCU upgraded?

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

I think it was late 2018

[@fhamre]

My research suggests that MCU 2 is installed on all S and X after March 2018.

[@dennismiller5725]

Get serious, I own an S 100d, why does any one need any greater preformance from a sedan than I have? in addition, I have also been in the tire business for years, and low profile tires will NEVER ride well. The S is a luxery sedan not Porsche GT3.

[@drtyjrze]

Umm you know there are plenty of cars quicker than a model 3. Should they all be banned? You win the donkey of the day award...

[@dennismiller5725]

@@drtyjrze The discussion was about a model S not a model 3 and why is it necessary to somehow get personal, "donkey of the day" what does that even mean?

[@dennismiller5725]

@@drtyjrze My response is directed to my model s not a 3, what does donkey of the day even mean?

[@drtyjrze]

Dennis Miller my reply was to the cloxxi comment under yours. Donkey of the day means you’re the ass of the day.

[@elyliu]

How many real world miles do you get on your older Model S?

[@nealpatel5556]

Ben, does the resolution on the screens change from MCU 1 cars to MCU 2?

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Hmm, not sure about resolution

[@elyliu]

Do you have to turn on Ludicrous mode to get the 2.4s 0-60?

[@SoCalMikey]

Ely Liu Ludicrous Plus, wait for 30-45 minutes until it says ready and then use launch control.

[@diongalbreath9441]

I was thinking the same ludicrous turned on for that 2.4

[@SoCalMikey]

Dion Galbreath Ludicrous Plus, Launch Mode and pretty much a full charge on a drag strip.

[@smbcap]

i don't understand your comment that charging at 150kw has been the charge rate *forever*. it was only last year they upgraded from 120kw to 150kw. and your charge was 155kw which is a 30% improvement over prior max charge rate...

[@user-jt1jv8vl9r]

Our country lanes in UK are often 60mph. Far too fast quite often. Should probably be 40mph.

[@taipoxin]

Ben, I think there might be a bit of an inaccuracy in your Dragy reporting. That 2.76 time is likely including the 1' rollout. Tesla reports it's times of the Model S by excluding the first foot of rollout. In the Dragy app itself you should be able to see the 1 foot rollout time as well on the performance report at the bottom, which should be about 1 to 2 tenths lower than the time you reported - so closer to 2.4 or 2.5 and more in line with Tesla's reporting. Also I'm guessing you didn't use the hidden launch mode as you were just on a random ramp on the highway, which gives it extra power and should allow it to hit close to the 2.4 time.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Yeah check my Twitter, details

[@mr88cet]

I agree that Model S is still the best-looking, inside and out!

[@xrayangiodoc]

And if you want range and don't need to go 0-60 in less than 3 seconds you can get a non-performance Model S long range and go 0-60 in 3.7 seconds and save about $20k and get about 373 rated miles of range.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

I would buy that one over this, but really a used 100D is probably the best overall value

[@davidhunternyc1]

Have there been any updates to support 0 - 60 in 2.4 seconds? Also, I want the white pleather on the dash. It's upsetting that Tesla took this feature out. The dash now looks dark and ordinary.

[@jaredlove4379]

Doesn't it have to be in Ludicrous Mode in order to achieve 0-60 in the 2.4 seconds?

[@jacobwilliams17]

Should you buy the model X or the Model S if you don’t care about the number of seats?

[@patrickday3393]

Did you ever check out the full self driving preview?

[@pjdambra]

To get the full power to the 2.4 you need to prep the battery in Ludacris Mode. Just stopping on a ramp and flooring it won't get the full power..

[@trisailor3318]

I love my Model S. But battery capacity and range are oversold. Note that the range was only 69% of the "rated", advertised range. 235 miles instead of 330 miles is significantly less. While you may be able to do somewhat better, you may not. At 6 months my car showed a full charge range of brand new. But in fact had a 14% loss in battery capacity (and 30% less range) and Tesla said all was "normal". So factor that in as well. If you are buying a used Tesla, the full charge rated range may conceal rather than reveal battery degradation.

[@hoffmantnt]

Dragy does not exclude the 1-foot rollout. A 1 ft rollout is the standard in the U.S. for 0-60 performance specs. All U.S. publications use this unless they specify otherwise. VBOX will provide the 0-60 time excluding the 1-foot rollout.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

thanks, just learned that, posted results on twitter

[@usasupra23]

Doesn’t it make sense for most people on this topic to just buy the optioned used Tesla that’s 2016.5 or newer to get most of the current goodies vs buying new rite now?

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Yes, used is the better value right now

[@JuanMii24]

There a supercharger v3 that i have charged at Fairfield, CT. Theres another one at Tennessee. Plus publicly the have one In the UK and some in trans Canada.

[@vawlkus]

pretty much all of the SCs in the Prarie provinces (Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan) are all V3's, however, most are having teething troubles. I don't think we've gotten a sustained charging rate much above 125 kw thus far, and many are struggling to get to 70 kw. This is all third hand info (I'm on the East Coast), so take it with a grain of salt.

[@oystein8371]

Havent your heard? Front facing child seats increases risk of injury or death by 5 times?

[@elyliu]

I also did not get the full V3 charging speed in my Model 3 at the LINQ supercharger recently. In fact, it was SLOWER than normal. I was getting like 25kw? Granted, it was cold (in the 40s), the car wasn't warmed up, and my battery wasn't super low (~70%).

[@raheeb1]

Model 3 Performance hands-down over this ... not even a question. If you know your Teslas really well, including the weird issues like the yellowing screen in the S/X, you would agree, too.

[@raheeb1]

faster than light ride is more than fine. A great in-between. Rides better than my F32 bmw (which did not have M suspension).

[@gebendik]

What about the next chassis on Model S?

[@tonyrusi1978]

Thank you for reporting the real numbers on a Tesla. What is the real range, charge time, and cost per month? These are things consumers need to know for a fact, and hype is very counterproductive for Tesla's sustainability over the long term. And when you say a V3 charger network does NOT really exist yet, I find these facts very sobering! I would want to drive my Tesla from Seattle to Yellowstone. I would want to power my trailer with it. I can't wait 2 or 3 years for an oversized Cybertruck, although I enjoy the notion of having a vehicle designed to operate on the surface of Mars. I need a vehicle now, and I am tired of being lied to about "sustainable transportation".

[@delschier1419]

Ben your videos are great; keeps me up to speed with my Tesla. You didn't mention it but did the web browser work on this model S because my 2016's web browser is useless at dial up speeds or worse. It used to work and Tesla is unable or unwilling to fix it.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

Yeah it worked well

[@joekim4345]

Ben. ive been following you for several years now but i feel like your tesla content is a bit behind. there is so much exciting stuff going on in the world of tesla. Have you taken a break due to life, kids, other interests? hoping for some classic teslanomics with numbers, graphs, etc.... will be waiting

[@HFPAccord]

Sentry Mode and the dash-cam only record video on USB if you have HW2.5 or later. You can turn on Sentry Mode with HW2.0 cars in order to use the alarm, but you won’t get any video. Remember that guys.

[@sessionsatimpact]

Elon's said there's no plans for a new S or X anytime soon... all the focus is on getting Y to market for the time being.

[@francoischarbonneau9447]

3:28 the question needs to be asked, "Why is it only at 155 kWh charging speed, while the 3 has gone up to 250 kWh?

[@francoischarbonneau9447]

I think I have the answer to my own question: It's the batteries, 18650 they can't handle the charge, they need the 2450 to do that quick charge like the M3. But battery day is coming and who knows, these old style batteries might end up in the trash bin because the new tech will blow it away.

[@Mobile_Dom]

wait, are 60mph non motorways not common in the states? iver here in the UK 60mph roads and dual carriageways are pretty common here.

[@altosack]

Domenico Lamberti - 55 mph non-motorways are common.

[@redcanoe2637]

Great review, will or have you done any testing in cold weather? Living in Central Canada I do have concerns with battery degradation in cold climate conditions.

[@BenSullinsOfficial]

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