Positive Control Early Mooney Autopilot

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@witblitsfilm
@witblitsfilm Жыл бұрын
First video I found when searching for "wing levelling autopilot". What a fantastic and simple concept!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@kevinbaslee3262
@kevinbaslee3262 2 жыл бұрын
I flew a 1975 M20C for several years with this system. It really works quite well, when it works. We did have to change some servos and vacuum lines, but as you mentioned it's really simple and easy to work one. Took a bit to get used to pushing the button down when you wanted to turn, but the plane would remind you quite quickly with the stiff controls. Love the Mooneys, they are great aircraft. I was really sad to see them stop producing them again!!
@paulsautocm
@paulsautocm 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo, my wife has positive control also. I'm positive she has control.:).
@evfarry
@evfarry 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, we have wives in common.
@darrylday30
@darrylday30 2 жыл бұрын
My wife has insisted that I find a good Mooney and fly her from place to place. I guess I will, if I must.
@ph5915
@ph5915 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! that's pretty ingenious for that era! My C172-K has a Brittain wing leveler - which works, but if engaging it you always have to fiddle with it to stay level - that Mooney system sets itself to level by default, that's awesome!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
When the wing leveler works, it is very good.
@derstuka96
@derstuka96 2 жыл бұрын
A very rudimentary concept, yet so effective!! You learn something new every day!!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Simple is often best!
@lynnkramer1211
@lynnkramer1211 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I own one, I can't seem to be able to learn enough about ERCO Ercoupes. Mine is a '46 415C and even with a good number of them around, they all seem to be different especially the cockpits. An essay on these beauties would be a real treat for thousands of your fans.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to have one here and do a lot of research.
@5695q
@5695q 2 жыл бұрын
The Brittain autopilot system builds off the PC by adding a heading hold function by connecting to the directional gyro and altitude hold by adding diaphragms to the pitch control system along with a sensor in the tail next to the PC gyro already there.
@FlyingNDriving
@FlyingNDriving 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this is the same wing leveler as that guy that passes out in the cabin of his Mooney and it landed itself in the snow up in Minnesota some years back
@MikeP-we2ve
@MikeP-we2ve 8 ай бұрын
Outstanding information. Thank you.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@MrRogRamjet
@MrRogRamjet 2 жыл бұрын
A PC system saved the day when I throttled back during an ifr approach, and the heading indicator suddenly began turning with wings level. (Vacuum problem) I shot the ILS with my compass, VSI, and the localizer needle, and made it in. I was a young CFI, ferrying this Mooney from Albany, NY to Eugene, OR. I was in over my head, and I learned a good lesson that day!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh ... memories. Good story, Roger!
@rmiller640
@rmiller640 2 жыл бұрын
Learn something with everyone of your videos Mark. Keep up the good work. Always looking forward to the next one
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@SirJer
@SirJer 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are fantastic, it's clear you have excellent knowledge in GA, probably more than most I've met around here. Looking forward to more, really like the mechanical/how-it-works videos, expert flight tips are welcome too! Keep up the great content!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ted1728
@ted1728 2 жыл бұрын
If you can please go into this system a bit more in the future. Thank you
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
OK, I'll mention it more in other older Mooney videos.
@sactu1
@sactu1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow - THAT is a new way (to me) of entering a Mooney. I'm going to try that out this week on my M20J. Thanks!!
@drifter503
@drifter503 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. I just saw one of these in the wild
@stevenflattum156
@stevenflattum156 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos thanks I always learn something new.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@furball5553
@furball5553 2 жыл бұрын
Love to be a fly on the wall when you tell the story of the pc saving your beacon will once again I have learned something thanks skywagon university 👍
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I’d never heard of that before.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@daszieher
@daszieher 2 жыл бұрын
Mooneys never cease to amaze me. I always wonder why they did not continue the simple versions as an entry-level model. Imagine a fully mechanical M20C with speed mods such as the M20J cowling and the more sloped windshield.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Entry level today is a financial pain point for most of us.
@daszieher
@daszieher 2 жыл бұрын
@@skywagonuniversity5023 yes, Mooney would have probably tried to sell this entry level model for over half a million of "your finest green ones". Weren't "proper" Mooneys going for almost 800k? Using appropriate composite construction methods in combination with the tried and true structure and looking what a non-certified four-pot costs, I am convinced one could build and market this entry-level Mooney for under 200k.
@6ellsworth
@6ellsworth 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video... Previous owner ripped out this leveler, I am looking forward to reinstalling it! this video witll help me with that.
@Qrail
@Qrail 2 жыл бұрын
You are always informative!
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jim!
@Nord3202
@Nord3202 2 жыл бұрын
Pre 65 M20C & E's did not have positive control from the factory. My 64 M20C has the popular Century autopilot which does everything except attitude hold. Also pre 65 Mooney's the step is hand cranked up & down. Great videos, keep up the great work passing on the knowledge.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, true. Thanks.
@philbrammer3632
@philbrammer3632 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this is the reason some people say Mooneys have slightly heavy controls.
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Only early ones with PC.
@triskellian
@triskellian 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmph! How elegant and clever.🙂
@MotorsportsX
@MotorsportsX 2 жыл бұрын
Mooney made the best airplanes way ahead of thier time. They need to come back
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they do.
@davidwhelan8550
@davidwhelan8550 3 ай бұрын
Mark, do you know or do you have a resource for anyone to talk to about the original Brittain autopilot?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 3 ай бұрын
Brittan is still around. Google them and call them.
@habk8574
@habk8574 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@philbrammer3632
@philbrammer3632 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering, with the manifold pressure at takeoff power (ie reasonably close to atmospheric pressure) does the step make its way out again?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
The step is up when the engine is running.
@davidpearn5925
@davidpearn5925 2 жыл бұрын
Love your work Mark. In the 60s/70s our freighter Bonanza A36s had a ‘wing leveller’ via an electric switch which was used to do a ‘cloud break’ (if stuck on top) without loss of control. I never understood it’s true purpose because it wasn’t much of an autopilot and we had IRs, but switching it on and reducing power would have done the job if you didn’t panic. What ‘drove’ the wing leveller Mark ?
@UltimateAnarchy
@UltimateAnarchy 2 жыл бұрын
The cameraman still hasn't learned to mute his phone before recording eh?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
If a phone didn't go off in one of our videos, you'd think we'd been kidnapped and replaced by clones. Cheap knockoffs. We want to give you the real deal.
@sport2175
@sport2175 2 жыл бұрын
My PC trim in my M20C is turned all the way to the left for level flight. If I disable PC and let hands off the yoke the airplane will in about ten seconds be in a 45 degree right bank and picking up airspeed. I think it should be rigged a bit better than that. Other than that it hard to complain about 160 mph on 11 gph
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a vacuum leak, Sport. The hoses and bags get old and start leaking.
@davidduganne5939
@davidduganne5939 2 жыл бұрын
Get a kick out of the maintenance manual fix for a "heavy wing"--bending an aileron trailing edge with a set of vice grips... (gotta use precision tools when working on airplanes 😀 )
@Lawiah0
@Lawiah0 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mark, how much will Aircraft be worth when Avgas/JetA is selling for $15.00 dollars per gallon by the end of 2022?
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
People will still fly, people will still drive. We need to get from A to B. Last time the prices of gas went up before Trump made the US energy independent and brought the prices down, the market for planes did not even react.
@Lawiah0
@Lawiah0 2 жыл бұрын
@@skywagonuniversity5023 IMO - Whats going to continue to transpire over the next 7 years will make the Great Depression look like "Holodomor" and East Germany, 1945 - combined. Best regards
@apexgrin
@apexgrin 6 ай бұрын
This aged like milk.
@Lawiah0
@Lawiah0 6 ай бұрын
@@apexgrin I always put the milk back in the refrigerator if i know it's turned.
@FlightSimDude
@FlightSimDude 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍
@cluelessbeekeeping1322
@cluelessbeekeeping1322 2 жыл бұрын
What's your take on Mooney? (I've always loved them!) What do you think will ultimately happen to them? Will they continue or are they, effectively, finished?
@FlyingNDriving
@FlyingNDriving 2 жыл бұрын
My controls!
@adamalbert9179
@adamalbert9179 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally just looking for a video like this
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
The spyware we installed on your computer told us everyth ... um ... it was a spectacular coincidence. Yeah! Coincidence!
@chrisc161
@chrisc161 2 жыл бұрын
Time for a new autopilot 😂
@skywagonuniversity5023
@skywagonuniversity5023 2 жыл бұрын
The old one still works, Chris!
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