POSITIVE TRAIN CONTROL meets railroader... it's annoying. | ES&DT in Railroader Ep. 30

[@BiscayneTPP]

PTC didn’t prevent me from enjoying the episode, but it did prevent me joining. Glad yall had fun in my absence!

[@AShadowboxsFSX]

😂😂

[@jerrysgardentractorsengine2243]

As the grandson of a Marine who served during Korea, thank you for your service Cory. Semper Fi!

[@Johndoe-jd]

Hello Mr Hyce, CDO of ES&DT You currently have an outstanding debt of 4,751,962.73 USD. That is the equivalent of 2,375,981 ES&DP (ES&D Packing peanuts). However, I cannot take any railroad credits. As such you need to pay in USD, gold, silver, or other precious metals. For your swear jar, I have counted 2 swears this video. You and the rest of this railroad need to put in an additional 6 USD or the equivalent amount in other currencies. Any IOUs put it will have some sort of collateral also written on alongside the note. For example: IOU ### USD Collateral: my car The total amount of money in the swear jar is the equivalent of 0 USD. As a reminder, the swear jar money will collect interest, and it will be used to buy coal for Montezuma once she is completed. The swear jar will stay in my possession as to ensure that no one tries to steal from it or short change it. Hyce, my good bird, on the livestream I knocked off two million dollars. In the time of two episodes you got two million and then some in debt. If you can't pay it off, you can work it off on my railroad. Railroader Debt Collector, John Doe

[@BandanRRChannel]

"My good bird" That's perfect!

[@jackgamer6307]

You're here too? I tought you're only a debth collector in the valley

[@Johndoe-jd]

@@jackgamer6307 no. I am THE debt collector. Whether it is in Derail Valley, Railroader, or Siberia, I will always be there. I am like death. You cannot hide from me. I am one of two certainties of life.

[@jackgamer6307]

@@Johndoe-jd Oh no... I'll pay for that sad exploded S060 I swear!!

[@itsjustaviper]

Mr. Doe, I, as a co-leader/co-founder of the fictional railroad, the FA&FO, (apparently theres multiple of us), will give the ES&DT: IOU 30 USD Collateral: one of our clapped out choo choos (we *slightly* binned it at Sylvia Interchange) I hope this helps Toodeloo, Viper P.S. i swear i didn't spill any passengers' martinis in Business Class Edit:Fixed typo

[@yearlygymnast9865]

Had a fun time playing! I'd like to say though, that the one time that my engine (the 5) got PTC'D was because ptc itself was being dumb and not listening! I was being a good kid *mostly*

[@bluescrew3124]

Thank you for keeping your channel an escape from real life

[@bluescrew3124]

Thanks for explaining “I’m standing next to a huge wheewhee “

[@taylorstout2067]

Hyce for president

[@lanteanboy]

his electoral promise, Railroads instead of Highways

[@taylorstout2067]

@@lanteanboy high speed railway

[@hughmungas5462]

The class 2 that my dad worked on had cabooses with radio controls for the locomotives for yard switching and industry work, he always called them motherships. Neat idea. But really just seems like a whole lot of extra steps.

[@daedelushex1841]

I've loved seeing you do all the different jobs around the railroad, but I'd love to see you do the Whittier Switching job, cause I've noticed that the eastbound freight train always gets there before the Whittier switcher does their damn job. I hink you could do that, show us how it looks, and do it before the freight gets to Whittier.

[@bear470]

Today has been nothing short of a cluster and I just woke up. So glad I have a hyce video to watch, always makes the day better

[@Austriantrainguy]

Binned my little shunter at the museum today... ...and yesterday... And three times on the weekend. Gotta readjust and rebuild some faulty switches now😳

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

*I'm standing next to a huge wEEwEE-* Still yet to get that production rate mod for Robinson yea-? Hungarian State Railways used "cab control cars" with steam locomotives since 1962 (steam stayed in service till 1984). Note that the cars had brake and whistle control and a lever to shut the throttle of the steamer, so to open the throttle and manage everything on the locomotive a second assisting engineer had to be placed on the locomotive. shipping still only works within the US does it-

[@faine_marquete6599]

Had a blast on the session and the late night chat,❤❤

[@catfishkid1986]

29:29 I love the engineer teaching his conductor and break man how to operate

[@Knsgf]

PTC in this session was more like ATS.

[@Hyce777]

Very true.

[@pootispiker2866]

And a very minor PITA

[@ClearTrackSpeed]

I'm excited to see Conductor Brad. John is super cool too, As a north American Passenger Conductor, it was fun to trade stories with another railroader; thanks for sharing Hyce

[@michaelasbury7121]

Cory, thank you for your cervix. The crayons were an acceptable price for your service.

[@whatusernameis5295]

>cervix

[@Hyce777]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@htilden42]

the end part honestly got me a little teary-eyed

[@arcticgraywolf6000]

Enjoyed watching your Railroader video while playing Railroader

[@BandanRRChannel]

I've occasionally pondered the thought of taking a shoving platform (usually an old caboose) and putting radio controls for an engine in the cupola. I know there's a few shortlines, like Meeker Southern, that put horns and even ditch lights on their caboose, but for short enough trains would putting engine controls on them be worthwhile? Sorry to hear you got so many annoying comments about the etymology of "train", but don't let that bug you...because bugs are covered by entomology, not etymology. 😛

[@bene5431]

That's a control car, cab car (North America), control trailer, or driving trailer (UK, Ireland, Australia and India). Usually the rest of the car is a passenger car

[@ltandrew1951]

I will now be using “hotwheel car” as a car length call 🤣

[@TheDeathsfear13]

18:30 a conductor's job in coal county just north of you is tie / untie cars and to talk on the radio. Other places actually do things.😅

[@heathnielsen4449]

0:49 Hyce, the track to the left is a branch. It is used by mods to make more interesting industry for Natahala.

[@alexanderbeck5063]

38 mins in: A suggestion! My Good Slime.

[@Johndoe-jd]

How about: My Good Comrade

[@Alleghemer]

28:40 I came out to have a good time and I’m honestly feeling very attacked right now 😂😂

[@djkevonator]

Hyce: Today I’ll be operating the Number 8. My brain: ‘Number 8, BUURRPP!! Number 8, BUURRPP!! Number 8, BUURRPP!!……. 😂 Another great video as always!! 😃

[@Coolengineer30]

You could always say, "Yes Chief." That how I respond my boss, my boss' title is Chief Engineer.

[@schwarzermoritz]

You can do the sawmill at tier five all from Connelly with three trips up the hill. L2 L3 L2 one day, L3 L2 L3 the other. Empties to one spur up, logs from the other spur down each time. Over two days thats three trips to each spur, (7+8)*2=45. That leaves you with three pickups from L1 to make along the way to get to 60, which you can do with a single string of cars. So thats one engine, twenty cars, three trips a day. With the K-28 that's a single refuel, including switching out the sawmill and pulling down all the pulpwood for sylva at tier 5 and spotting it at East Whitts yard. A sixteen car train every day, plus one eight car train every other day.

[@Hyce777]

That sounds like a solid way to do it!

[@Tyrope]

At the Tonnage First, Safety Last, we have 24 log cars; split over 2 12-car consists, each loaded 4/4/4 at L1/L2/L3. Running it thrice daily satisfies the saw mill at T5 just fine.

[@99BLACKJACK99]

22:52 if you're using the tostilities mod I found in experimental you can't change the cars operations it just leaves a blank page

[@desmondk-o7148]

oh is *that* whats been doing that? had that issue on my personal save and its been the reason I havent played it in a while. *sigh* thats one of my favorite mods, so many useful features

[@99BLACKJACK99]

@@desmondk-o7148yeah I disabled the mod reloaded the game and it worked for me. It would be nice if the mod author would update the mod to work again

[@2Brothersid]

The NTSB approves this episode

[@RailfanKnexified]

Please tell Cory I said thank you for your service in the Marines!

[@forbiddenknowledge2847]

We're cargo moving people from N&W railway (The song is called cargo moving people It's a good song)

[@SYEDHasan-nk1oz]

At 37:58, say 'My good gentleman' Hyce

[@williamtheNWRS3class]

mark i know you dislike thomas because you thought people would hate and bully you because you liked it but that doesnt mean you shouldnt talk to people who DO like it like i do anyways great video! :D

[@QuorkQTar]

PTC: Personal Train Control^^

[@MikeinUt]

From an Amtrak engineer. Most Amtrak conductors are just a clerk with a rail pass. Conductor Brad is different. He’s old school.

[@katies6426]

great as always Hyce!

[@dc1118]

Fun running last night, just wish I could have stayed for the whole thing.

[@KR4FTW3RK]

As a fellow counter-thrust enjoyer I have to wonder.... just how BAD would it be to run a real locomotive like this? E.g. you're going down a hill at like 15 mph and instead of using brakes, you use the steam engine to push against the train? Let's just assume there are snifters and we're not sucking the "nice" stack fumes through our valves and cylinders.

[@Hyce777]

It was standard practice on mountain grades when running light to do such, but with the bar *barely* in reverse, and very light throttle. Really working it hard against itself is far from ideal.

[@Tyrope]

"Far from ideal" is my modus operandi!

[@robertgarrett5009]

The DHR, who still use steam in regular passenger service, run the engines on the downhill side of the cars, and they use the locomotive in reverse for slowing down.

[@AndreEckert]

Nice 👍 Greetings from the ES&DB ❤

[@forbiddenknowledge2847]

We're cargo moving people from N&W railway Norfolk and western There is no stopping us

[@therealatlanticfoamer]

oh no, PTC has touch the ES&DT

[@faine_marquete6599]

It did and surprisingly made things run smooth some how 🤔

[@whatusernameis5295]

​@@faine_marquete6599because they don't have jersey blowing through everything lol

[@Kaliphissis]

Why doesn't the Bryson switcher do Walker as well? They could take the full ones down and put them with the Appalachian on the big freight. The Freight then dumps them at Whittier and continues on to Sylva. The Bryson switcher meanwhile shoves the empty cars up to Walker for the next day. Less downtime for the Bryson switcher and no need for a new locomotive.

[@Hyce777]

That'd work pretty well, until the tonnage gets bigger for the eastbound... :D

[@faine_marquete6599]

56:40 I will say In defence a little lel that I didn't hear the bit about the alarka cars I only heard about the other special orders. I will honor the call and accept the lack of packing peanut 🙃 for my own hubris.

[@wobblebee1242]

I feel like now may be a good time to reintroduce cabeese so your crew members have something to ride along in, instead of standing all over the engine lol

[@ThatGuyAt2FPS]

I am willing to watch the same episode twice if that means more jersey and hyce collaboration (and the classic Jersey derails)

[@DaysofKnight]

"Cren?" You mean "Crayon?"

[@GarrisonHughes-vm1xr]

As of date of this video releasing 39 days until one year since it was released.

[@GarrisonHughes-vm1xr]

time is fake

[@Hyce777]

Christ. time is fake.

[@itsjustaviper]

ptc could not have fixed this

[@monicagende1651]

0:19 I’ve been to Nantahala NC

[@forbiddenknowledge2847]

Halloween My guy What are you going to do for Halloween What are you going to do with the trains for Halloween my guy?

[@EdisonRailfanner]

Quick question, how do you get the different tender font?

[@Ivorydiamond214]

You haven't added me to the credits yet Hyce. I wonder when I'll be worthy.

[@Hyce777]

I update the scroll about once a month - it's unfortunately a lengthy process. I updated it last about two weeks ago. So in early November I've got ya! :D

[@Ivorydiamond214]

@@Hyce777 I appreciate it, also love your videos.

[@marcusyoutubegamineer]

why is so short?

[@Hyce777]

We had a lot of behind the scenes conversations that weren't appropriate for the episode. lol!

[@NORTH_WESTERN]

​@@Hyce777o no

[@uberraisin4487]

What's the music at 44:30 ?

[@AShadowboxsFSX]

Was it Jersey who changed your whistle?

[@Hyce777]

it was not

[@heathnielsen4449]

Hey Hyce, what are you playing in the background?

[@Hyce777]

Lots of my original music. :)

[@heathnielsen4449]

@@Hyce777 where is it?

[@bluescrew3124]

@@heathnielsen4449 Spotify

[@EyeMWing]

It slightly infuriates me that you ran that whole trip tender first when you could have wye'd around at Alarka. Or Bryson. Or used the table at Bryson. Or at the Whittier wye. Or the Dills table.

[@thestainmorephoenix8632]

You aren't West Coast Rail and that engine isn't Tangmere!

[@Dan_Gyros]

My good thou?

[@thedawg16]

Isn't chef in French just boss?

[@thatww2nerd81]

PTC could not have prevented this.

[@rdreher7380]

"Yes chef" is actually not that strange of an idea. In English, "chef" means a master cook, but in French it has a much wider meaning of "boss." It's related to "chief," "chieftain," and "captain," all of which come from earlier versions of French. Some other languages like German also use "Chef" in the broader French sense of "boss." "Yes sir," and "yes ma'am" are both terms you use to your superior, and "chef" in the French sense is another word for your superior. Of course most English speakers would not immediately get that, so it made me think that simply saying "yes boss" is a pretty good candidate for a gender neutral "yes sir/ma'am." I personally like "aye, aye cap'n" though, lol. On another note, I'm sorry you got so much crap from the etymology nerds. I'm angry those blokes made us language nerds look bad. When I watched that video, I did kind of wish you had talked about where the word "train" comes from in that video. I had a feeling some people would miss the fact that you are talking about a technical definition of a train not the "original" meaning, and also thought it would have been good to start with a sort of "level one" understanding for lay people/kids who don't even realize that a train is not the same thing as a locomotive. However, I didn't bother to comment on it. Etymology and dictionary definitions are a good example of how knowing only a little bit about a topic can be dangerous. I can speak from my own experience of being on the spectrum that literal or rigid, legalistic thinking about words is a common experience for people like me, and while I grew from etymology obsession to a very in-depth understanding of linguistics, some people are either still not far enough in their development, or so stunted it can get cringe. The result of this is an insistence that words have a single meaning, maybe a technical meaning from science ("tomato is a fruit"), or if they get into etymology an "original" meaning that they assume is the "true" meaning. In linguistics, we talk about the arbitrary nature of words, that the meaning of words is created by context and the community of speakers that uses it. There is no intrinsic "correct" meaning of a word, and words change meaning over time, gain specialized meanings to certain fields, or broader metaphorical meanings, etc. Insisting on being "well actually" with some technical definition or etymological understanding of a word comes from having a little bit of knowledge but not the bigger, wider understanding that you need. Also, the only thing worse than being unnecessarily pedantic is being an a$$hole about it too.

[@Hyce777]

I appreciate the etymology, I just know a couple who use it for... Well, adult-y couple things. Lol!

[@rdreher7380]

@@Hyce777 Oh. Was not aware of that. Yeah, maybe "aye, aye cap'n" then, lol.