Possession Games Training Lesson with Ivan Balabanov

[@felixneher]

Those who go to the workshop are very lucky. I am located in Melbourne Australia, so it is very expensive for just 3 days. But if I had the chance to buy it online I would do it without thinking twice!!! 🙌Enjoy this wonderful event!👏

[@shepherds.pie.youtube]

I'm NSW, Australia. Same!

[@pinenutrover3207]

I watched this and I can see this puppy already has a lot of motivation to possess the pillow. I understand from your (Ivan's) comments elsewhere that the goal is not to create obsession for the toy, but for interactive play. I want to understand possession games better. I used to have a subscription to trainperview and I watched the possession games video and the chase and catch video, but I don't have access to those anymore. I still have the OWC dvds. That was more than 10 years ago. At that time, it was hard for me to motivate my dog to play. He had some drive for the flirt stick or bite pillow, but I must have been thinking that I wanted the game to be about obedience. In your other recent video, you basically describe people that play Possession Games by using obedience so the result is that they look like you -- like Ivan. It's been explained to me that there is the drive to possess, and then the out, and then impulse control. The way I remember it, I was probably killing drive with out commands, and if I would start to demand impulse control (permission to bite), that would basically end the game. So, I don't think I've learned to play this game properly. My dog isn't here to help me anymore. I want to get this sorted out before I think about getting another puppy. Learning to play the game is the most important topic here, but there are some other things that come to mind. You praise the puppy's grip. This puppy has a wonderful full grip that is desired in Schutzhund and the behavior of pushing with the mouth and wrapping the paws that some people want to see. I think that is Belgian Ring. My dog wanted to grip the pillow handles or if I got him to take a full grip, he would not have a lot of bite pressure. For him, preventing me from getting the pillow by intimidating me was a better strategy than gripping hard. But this wasn't just 'resource guarding' because he would drop the object to invite and dare me to take it (he was obviously playing) which I could do either with the line or by scooping it with a hand. He would respond by gripping the line instead of the object. This was intelligent, but it caused me a bunch of anxiety about his grip style because it wasn't the fashionable style. I was able to have a better relationship with him after I quit trying to do anything in Schutzhund or ringsport, Now, I could get a dog that is genetically more predisposed to the behaviors that are desired in those sports, but I could also decide it doesn't matter to me. Being able to play with the dog in a way that the dog enjoys the play is more important.

[@natehinkson2313]

Ivan 🙌🏼 thank you

[@tuffy2242]

I like the cooperation + competition idea very much. My non-protection companion dog loves this and I’ve stuck with the give and take and creatively expanding, that you’ve shown in your videos. I’m using it as a relationship developer rather than as a protection and bitework building game. Thank you 🙏

[@felixneher]

Finally new content from Ivan!!! So happy to see it in my emails!!! Thank you sooo much!! :)

[@quinncolby]

Love watching you working puppies

[@MackTrainingAcademy]

Lots of interesting and subtle things being done here. Love that you showed how you do this.

[@Facectrl91]

Уникален ... Идол си ми адаш !

[@SofiaViviEnDo]

I wish you can come to Argentina Ivan. I'd love learning from you.

[@IvanBalabanov]

@@SofiaViviEnDo some day

[@Todsfitness]

Would of loved to be there -

[@cappyrackley8824]

Thank you for sharing this!❤

[@IvanBalabanov]

You are so welcome!

[@chrisdalton9849]

Ivan, keep up the good work, top man

[@cristindsz]

This is great! I’d love to see how you got Tina to play!! With that razor focus

[@katl5683]

Loved the bite on this little one! Curious how you obtained the out, was watching you at jaw sides, was there a verbal command to out?

[@SamAlderdice]

what a masterclass! 🦊

[@robertkezer3665]

Well done sir

[@shepherds.pie.youtube]

Would love to buy an online replay of this event if you are filming it. Can't make it even though it tears me up to be missing out. 😢

[@DC-fb9tt]

Would you bscktie if this were solo?

[@ProfNomis]

Hi Ivan 👋🏻 Thank you so much for this introduction video, I really appreciate all the advice that you give freely 🙌🏻 I have a question, when first starting the possession game what ratio of wins for the dog should I be aiming for? I really appreciate your time here, thank you so much 👊🏻

[@SimpleCountryDogTrainer]

That’s a great looking pup!

[@IvanBalabanov]

I think so too!

[@kristineherzog7215]

Trained one of my problem dogs with a TWC trainer and used all these tactics. Worked brilliantly. My older dog, no matter how exciting I try to be, I cannot get him interested in play. How do you motivate uninterested dogs?

[@corymarinan2996]

Have you tried THIS hard? Prior to seeing this I would have said after 5 minutes of trying that the dog just won't play. kzbin.info/www/bejne/enPFZKOompVkg80si=AUYb5a_65_7TI6_G

[@kristineherzog7215]

@@corymarinan2996 Hi! Thanks for your reply. This looks like just working through fear in general. He's too scared to even think about play in that video. My dog is not like that. He's not fearful, he's just not very interested. I can get him to chase the ball a couple times, and then he goes absolutely flat. I feel like he only chases the ball, not because he wants to, but because he loves the praise he gets when he goes after it. It's been tricky.

[@youngsid919]

What does rubbing the top of the muzzle do?

[@MarshaMarshaMarsh4]

Do you go into the “why” this game is the absolute most important game we can play w our dogs?

[@chuckwheeler3923]

Do you play the same with personal protection pups as with competition pups?

[@IvanBalabanov]

Yes

[@SomeMinorDogTraining]

For anyone reading this: I know that dog training can be difficult sometimes, but you're doing great. Keep up the good work, and your dog (and your own sanity) will thank you for it! ❤️💕

[@i_k9]

shut up :D

[@donb2527]

So true, dog training is all about patience and controlling your emotions.

[@SomeMinorDogTraining]

@@donb2527 yes! It's a marathon, not a sprint. ❤️💕

[@oooyugi]

Thank you. Why is this ‘The most important game of all’ ?

[@thankmelater1254]

I don't know what Ivan's answer would be, but I'd say it's because that's how dogs play, naturally.

[@IvanBalabanov]

@@oooyugi a million dollar question

[@katerinakhan1328]

How can I do it solo with my dog? Without another person helping me

[@hollissensenig1775]

Excellent introduction to the course. Thank you! ??I echo previous question. How to handle a dog/ pup that snaps at handler who reclaims the toy when game is finished? ?? Any suggestions on motivating a mature dog with no current interest in possession games? ??After reving the dog up with possession game, how do you address impulse control and teaching Calm?

[@IvanBalabanov]

Will be talking about this at the workshop 💪🏼

[@travisblanchard88]

Could you do this on your own with the puppy on a back tie?

[@psimmy73]

Super grips on that pup, your breeding Ivan?

[@Lil_Kumquat]

How many observational spots will there be?

[@IvanBalabanov]

50

[@love1614]

is there also an online course for this? I'm having a lot of trouble getting my 4 month old puppy to play. What course would you recomend? live in the Netherlands so could never physically participate

[@ThomasMcParland-j2i]

Cornerstone collection on his website

[@love1614]

Thank you

[@Renegades79]

When applying and if accepted, does a payment need to be paid in full at the time of booking or at a later time or split payments etc? Observer or with dog, either way I would love to attend and $$$ is tight these days. Thanks

[@IvanBalabanov]

Yes to secure your spot you would have to enroll.

[@carolinapointretrievers8619]

How do we find out how to apply for the weekend course?

[@IvanBalabanov]

application link is in the description

[@AdamFlackDogTraining]

Really enjoyable and will try out letting a bit more possession when playing chase/tug games. Question: do dogs ever become over possessive and snap towards the person trying to take the toy? Almost like resource guarding?

[@joeyglewnston]

Dog will bring the toy to you if he values you and the toy together

[@watchmoivies123]

This dog reminds me a lot of my dog, but my dog actually resource guards do you have a problem with that? Seems like he kind of wanted to resource guard when he used his arms to hold onto it but I could be wrong. What’s your answer?

[@IvanBalabanov]

This is a common problem that I will be talking about at the workshop

[@watchmoivies123]

@@IvanBalabanov great thanks. I have asked a couple of times about Tina and ice. Do you still have Tina and his ice walking better and feeling better thank you.

[@bandar1982]

How do you end the game?

[@IvanBalabanov]

I talk about this at length in the possession games video

[@oooyugi]

Confidence building ?

[@fallbrkgrl]

I adopted a 5 year old female GSD from the shelter almost 4 months ago. She's very fearful, and doesn't play. She's also not food motivated. I'm completely out of ideas on how to get her to engage, and want to work. Let's just say that she is doing a lot of laying around and sleeping. It's so hard to watch, and it's breaking my heart 🥹 I can't help but feel that she would be better off with a man... just want her to be happy.

[@thankmelater1254]

Did they have her on psych drugs?

[@fallbrkgrl]

@@thankmelater1254 since I got her from the humane society, I would think not. Before that, who knows. They had no history on her.

[@bingsballyhoo711]

I am not an expert, but in my experience with shy shelter dogs it can take some time while they decompress and get basic confidence enough to play.

[@fallbrkgrl]

@@bingsballyhoo711 we are now 8 months in. She still doesn't play, and I get the sense that she still doesn't feel like this is her home. I try really hard not to anthropomorphize, but I feel strongly that whatever took her from her original owner, literally broke her heart. I can only hope that however long it takes, that she will someday come to feel "at home".

[@tigertalks1567]

You're very structured and black and white.I'm looking at 2.2% of the first video I've ever seen of you. You need to add in a little bit of emotion and maybe help dogs, as well as just making money from them. just a tip from a professional intuitive. If you do that your success will be much more fulfilling. This is the info that came to me when I first looked at you. Now I'm going to watch the video

[@IvanBalabanov]

@@tigertalks1567 and after you watched the video what’s the feedback now?

[@tigertalks1567]

@@IvanBalabanov I'll let you know after I watch it