Wish: The Failure Disney Deserves (Quick Review)

[@PossumReviews]

By the way, my re-written version of the movie at the end of this video is something I came up with in a couple hours. That's not me bragging. All I did was follow simple storytelling logic. Disney can't even do that. Support me on Patreon: www.patreon.com/DrShaym Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/ReviewsPossum Submit your fan art: facebook.com/DrShaym/

[@michaelpowers671]

The ending left us hanging 😢

[@AbrasiousProductions]

very impressive honestly, I wish this was the wish we would've gotten.

[@ToastyYokai]

You mf, lol that story was too good to just cut off like that 😂

[@AbrasiousProductions]

@@ToastyYokai yeah that peeved me a bit.

[@AliRadicali]

One of the problems preventing them from following simple storytelling logic is their newfound set of progressive morals. How do you encourage a good work ethic if you don't believe in work? How do discourage wishful thinking and magical solutions when your entire ideology is based on such simplistic, childish notions? The fact that Wish is simultaneously trying to encourage and discourage wishful thinking perfectly illustrates the contradictions in the underlying ideology and the reason you simply cannot arrive at a good story when it is being written by people with such terrible and contradictory morals.

[@221Prohunter]

There really is a modern trend of making villains that aren’t actually villains. Somewhere along the way, we lost the “villain doing bad things but we can sympathize with them” and replaced it with “villain that has ideas are actually pretty good but he raises his voice sometimes so he’s now evil”

[@tobiasbayer4866]

I think the problem is that they try to move away from the mustache twirling evil for the sake of being evil villains, but they also dont commit to developing an ideology the villain follows that clashes with the hero. Instead we have this weird mix where the villain has a kinda understandable motive thats never actually challenged in the movie and instead they just make the villain be angry or do mean things so that the audience dislikes them and we are fine with them being defeated.

[@clydecraft5642]

its like most media is trying to normalize shouting down people just because they are emotional despite having good points... sounds like all of media exaggerating stories and wrongly reporting them @@tobiasbayer4866

[@berserkhunter1981]

Back in the day, villains were bad. A few years ago, it was sympathetic villains. Now, villains are what the protagonist should be

[@shadowleon659]

I miss the days of Frollo, Cruella, Maleficent, Scar, Ursurla, Goston, Dr Facilier, Clayton, Sykes, Yzma, Jafar, Shan Yu, Hades, King Candy/Turbo and McLeach. They were well written and had interesting personalities.

[@AliRadicali]

It's because the people writing these stories are themselves evil. It's not just the villains either, how many hero-in-name-only girlbosses have we seen in the last few years?

[@theimperialwizard9295]

I really like how the star character is conveniently animated to be a marketable plushie

[@alexanderackerman3807]

It looks like a bootleg luma

[@A.Z.S.GXZ777]

💯

[@NoraIconiq]

Fun fact you can buy the plushie at my local theater.

[@alexgomez6723]

To be a LITTLE BIT fair, doesn’t that accurately apply to most American animated protagonists?

[@theimperialwizard9295]

@@alexgomez6723 yeah but it’s styled much more cartoonishly than the rest of them

[@elijahdoesstuff4600]

FUN FACT: This movie was originally going to be fully traditional 2D animated. The yellow star guy was going to be a shapeshifting love interest for Asha and King Magnifico and his wife were going to be a villainous power couple. Would this have made the movie better? Debatable. But it definitely would have been more interesting and creative than what we got.

[@ravenouself4181]

It would have definetly made it better, at least on why Magnifico is the Villain, since in the final product, I can't call him even an Antagonist as he was absolutely in the right.

[@MikeWazowskixxx]

WE WERE ROBBED MOTHERFUCKERS

[@keiz5052]

@@opportunity3278be careful, your racism is showing

[@ttracs]

the 2d would have been way better than the half asses 3d that looks on par quality-wise with a weekly cartoon.

[@P.H691]

@@ttracs You know what I wish Disney has done? Have 3D models animated like they are 2D. We've seen this happen, hell Dreamworks figured it out. What excuse does Disney have?

[@eggballo4490]

Honestly, I lost all respect for Disney after they refused to let a grieving father put Spiderman on his 4-year-old son's grave.

[@Agueybana1978]

Disney doesn't own the rights to Spider-Man, at least not completely.

[@Ledinosour673]

​@@Agueybana1978 disney owns marvel

[@Agueybana1978]

@@Ledinosour673 but, they don't have the rights to Spider-Man films, they can only make shows, comics, and merchandise and even then, they have to share their profits of Spider-Man with Sony.

[@dawn95]

I also lost my respect when they shut down bluesky studios but refusing to let a grieving father to put Spider-Man on their child’s grave is fucked ip

[@knightpal1545]

​@@dawn95 The pr team: "YOU DID WHAT?!?"

[@DoodleDude1878]

13:50 It's interesting cause "the quirky protagonist" worked well with characters like Rapunzel and Anna. Mostly Rapunzel in my opinion. Rapunzel has been kept isolated in a tower for nearly 18 years, she's naive to the world outside those walls. Only knowing about it from the books she had, presumably, and the lies Gothel told her. Anna is slightly similar, having no interactions with peers around her age and being cooped up in a castle for 13 years before the coronation. She's become desperate for social interaction with people beyond the servants in the castle, but is also awkward cause she doesn't know how to interact with them. I know they're the two that somewhat started the trend but at least the stories explain why they have become that way.

[@missAlice1990]

Also, their designs match their personalities. When I saw Asha, I thought she will be more gentle and elegant, like Elsa or the classic princesses. Contrary to the popular belief, you can make a strong and interesting protagonist who is calm, serious and feminine.

[@beelzebub6414]

​@@missAlice1990 why even add "feminine"? show me one masculine disney female protagonist lol

[@sindy1014]

@@missAlice1990 Right, I was so surprised when Asha was shown as quirky. It could work, if she had more complex personality like Moana. She knew when to be a leader and when to be laid back and fun. Asha is just quirky all the way.

[@sakamoto5754]

​@@beelzebub6414 Merida

[@realswobby]

Yes, it is important to make it understandable and acceptable WHY this character acts in this sort of way. Otherwise, you just create an annoying copycat.

[@whiterabbit75]

What Disney did to Treasure Planet should be considered criminal.

[@insertnamehere5809]

It was an underrated masterpiece

[@kenzieuchiha1191]

Don't forget what they did to Atlantis: the Lost Empire. That movie got shafted and ignored, too, because it dared breaking the overdone Disney generic formula.

[@whiterabbit75]

@@insertnamehere5809 Facts. It was the best Treasure Island retelling since Muppet Treasure Island.

[@whiterabbit75]

@@kenzieuchiha1191 Atlantis was another great movie that was largely forgotten.

[@seastriker4437]

They also did it to the Princess and the Frog, and ignored it for years instead pushing Frozen.

[@Khalith]

Take my cat to see wish? I’m not going to engage in such animal cruelty.

[@carpecanem611]

My cat walked out.

[@AbrasiousProductions]

same here, I love my kitties, they only watch refined media like Prisoner (1979-1986)

[@msmaria5039]

​@@AbrasiousProductions Not The Lion King?

[@AbrasiousProductions]

@@msmaria5039 lion king's okay but I don't watch it often.

[@lmahu6627]

My dog responded positively to _Lady and the Tramp_ (the original one, not the live-action version that somewhat exists). I doubt that would happen for _Wish._

[@researcherchameleon4602]

That rewrite at the end was legit better than any movie Disney has produced in the past couple years

[@katet_33]

Decades*

[@Crazyashley42]

I'd definitely watch it!

[@robmclean4352]

Well, the "it was all a dream" bit is lame, but a lot less lame than what Disney's been putting out lately!

[@researcherchameleon4602]

@@robmclean4352 that last bit could be rewritten to be more like a movie, but the overall concept is solid, and could have made for a good movie

[@ScumSookar]

Yeah, I actually liked where the trash rat was going with that story, then he had to go give me blue balls like that.

[@johnnymontalvo5620]

I don’t despise “Disney.” I despise “modern Disney.” Disney used to be the pioneer in animation. It’s sad how mediocre they are now.

[@mupty]

The people who run "modern Disney" right now are the ones who despise Disney as a whole. They show in anything that comes out these days.

[@Noelle_Holiday]

@@mupty It's almost like they're trying to sabotage their own company, which they inevitably did.

[@End-of-Winter]

What Disney did to themselves by destroying their legacy almost makes me want to cry if I think about it too long; it's tragic. They used to be synonymous with quality. I grew up on their movies and was a Disney kid through and through. Now I can't stand what they have become, and I just wish the company would go under and new talent rise from the ashes.

[@ajakakakak]

Disney was never that good

[@Axodus]

@@ajakakakak I disagree.

[@madamefluffy4788]

Well, of course Queen Amaya was totes fine with Magnifico being dethroned. She knew he was corrupted by the book, and said nothing about it/made no attempt to reverse the curse (from what I understand - she had the means to do so; but saw it as futile). Without him in charge, she's now the sole ruler of the island and the people will worship her, instead - which they do instantly after she tells her guards to have Magnifico taken to be hung on a dungeon wall 'because he deserved it'. The real villains of this story wasn't just Asha (who was an unintentional one), but also Queen Amaya for throwing her beloved husband under the bus so she could rule on her own.

[@nont18411]

“Never interrupt your enemy when he makes a mistake.” The queen seems to take this lesson from Napoleon to her heart…so, how is she not evil?

[@MikeWazowskixxx]

NOT TO MENTION THE QUEEN WAS ALSO GOING TO BE EVIL ORIGINALLY BUT NO BECAUSE DISNEY THINKS THATS MYSOGENY BECAUSE THEYRE STUPID

[@tiagopesce]

she got her wish on a silverplate ;)

[@Zenocius]

Women

[@davidmccall4024]

that would have been a genius twist.

[@brandonhelcher3691]

The 1 wish a month thing could have been explained easily. "The spell to grant wishes requires a full moon to work"

[@achangeinthename]

that would be such a spectacular concept for the film! they could have had the magic system be based in space. Maginifico drawing from the moon to grant one wish a month. Its power is strong enough and reliable to fully realize the dreams villagers have and make them reality. But even with the moon it takes a lot of work and energy from the caster in the process. the bigger the wish the more it takes from the magician. It could drain you of your life if you arent careful with what you're doing. So magnifico only ever grants the small simple wishes. The small ones that are safe for him to cast, even if it means some people wishes will never come true. They could have little celebrations based on the phases in the village. Maybe a blue moon festival where there's two wishes involved. theres a lot of possibilities. stars could also sources of magic, but more chaotic and unstable in nature, and youd have to work very hard to harness and use its power properly. sometimes being more of a hindrance than a help. But succeeding in using star magic could make you quite powerful. Something asha might turn to in effort for her own dreams + the wishes of her friends and family. theres a lot you can do with a concept like this im still thinking about it

[@brandonhelcher3691]

@@achangeinthename Borrowing from Avatar, eclipses. What effect could a solar/lunar eclipse have? Negate all magic, amplify it, make it go haywire? I think the 1 wish a month thing was added just to make the "villain" seem stingy. They could have actually been creative and construct an astrological magic system, actually elaborate on the classic wish upon a star thing, but no.

[@LeXofLeviafan]

Problem is, that single sentence would make the White Guy In Power so obviously not evil, even these writers would have hard time deluding themselves into believing otherwise, despite all that mandatory practice in mental gymnastics.

[@zackyfaisalb9007]

@@brandonhelcher3691 Yeah, this story could be a special things in that the protagonist turned out to be the villain and the antagonist is actually the hero of the story. There is someone in the past that is able to grant wishes like she did, but that person is a naive weak-willed kid that get exploited by everyone around them. And then the would-be founder of the kingdom swoops in and saves the day by managing the wish granting ability in a much more safe and effective way and then lead peoples to build a prosperous and stable kingdom. Centuries passed by and nobody remember the past anymore. And then our female protagonist shows up. She wishes to know about the secret of the king and unconsciously granting her own wish, decided to go against him because she think he is an unfair tyrant, and history repeat itself. The king have to go great length to undo all of the dangerous wish granted by our protagonist, even used a forbidden spell to destroy all wish-granting magic and finally sacrifice himself to save everyone. This should teach kids that not all wishes should be granted, that not everything they do for justice is actually just, and to think of the consequences, thrice, before doing anything drastic.

[@jetpilledmyron2056]

What would do a green, twin-tailed comet ?

[@silverscorpio24]

I am fully convinced Disney writers sincerely don't know what makes characters heroic or villainous anymore.

[@Mike_Oxlong07]

Because they align more with the villain

[@Monsoon-r5n]

its cus they want to dumb down kids

[@bernardoheusi6146]

Lawful evil (In the dark Asmodeus laughs 😂)

[@takethesquid]

What if there are no writers and it's just AI? they haven't replaced animators yet because AI hasn't reached that level, but i always get the sense that management mandates alienate audiences

[@rainbowbears1627]

i believe they do, but nowadays they get shut down by the coorperate site of disney to make it the most marketable in the shortest amount of time

[@jeremieherard2166]

This movie actually fits its targeted audience perfectly. Let me explain: The Evil guy is not even evil, he does what must be, and sometimes gets angry when sassy brat don't get it. The villain is just the average viewer's dad.

[@stoopidpursun8140]

Sassy brat wants everything for free, doesn't want to work for anything, and ends up rewarded despite screwing everything up while accepting no responsibility for their actions. Yep, you're 100% correct.

[@sonicmastersword8080]

That just makes it worse. Disney is supporting the indolent do it never mentality that is ruining every generation since the millennials.

[@melodyscorpion6606]

​@stoopidpursun8140 sounds like every ivy league college student I’ve ever met....which is ironic given how much those places cost

[@Attmay]

Exactly. Like almost everything Disney has done since the turn of the century, it celebrates the “virtues“ of being a spoiled brat.

[@leviticusprime4904]

@@stoopidpursun8140average collage student

[@bloodrunsclear]

'Imagine taking no risks at all and still failing' - 2023 Disney in a nutshell

[@FOF275]

Isn't it insane that Disney hasn't made a big budget main movie for Mickey in so long? The 100th Celebration would honestly have been the perfect time for it

[@Axodus]

I doubt they have what it takes, they're probably afraid of ruining the charm the character has.

[@FOF275]

@Axodus The way they are now they'd definitely ruin him in a movie, but it's still surprising that he hasn't had big movies recently

[@Axodus]

@@FOF275 It's the same reason Valve doesn't make an episode 3.

[@saccorhytus]

@@Axodus it's the only character they care about

[@ching-jungyang62]

@@Axodus Oh yeah, now that the copyright is ineffective, someone else will ruin the charm for them.

[@ministryofwrongthink6962]

“Disney isn’t an entertainment company. They are a toy company that makes 200 million dollar commercials.” Damn, that goes hard .

[@bisbee1678]

The sad thing is that their toys don't make money either.

[@ministryofwrongthink6962]

@@bisbee1678 LMFAO True. They’re toys are literally doing so bad, Hasbro is now publicly suffering because of it.

[@Really_Big_Moth]

@@bisbee1678for real??

[@Really_Big_Moth]

damn..

[@sparks6177]

@@bisbee1678 not that sad, their toys lose money because their movies are generic, bland slop that panders to the lowest common denominator. When no one wants to watch any of your 200-500 million dollar movies it’s no wonder you can’t sell toys that are based on those movies. And again, when you are marketing to childless people who despise the nuclear family at best your toy customers are the 40 year old Disney adults that love Star Wars toy sets, but they killed Star Wars too so even that group is reluctantly stepping away.

[@LabMatt]

Magnifico is the personification of Disney itself: it has the power and resources to make unbelievable things, but sticks to the most safe, generic and harmless creations

[@thetabo8648]

Problem is Magnifico is doing it for a good reason

[@theblackswordsman5039]

@@thetabo8648which is?

[@gliscaradu1424]

@@theblackswordsman5039 not to put people in danger/to maintain his stranglehold?

[@thetabo8648]

@@theblackswordsman5039 because Magnifico playing it safe and only granting safe wishes meant nothing dangerous was gonna come from it while still helping out people. His shortcomings pretty much feel forced on by horrible writing. Disney playing it safe is not only wrecking their own name, which is let's be honest the only thing they have going for them, but their legacy of actual good movies as well with sequels/remakes that are so empty and dumb they didn't need to happen in the first place

[@md_vandenberg]

@@thetabo8648 Problem is, Magnifico doesn't explain his good reasons in a real manner because Disney has lost their mojo.

[@Tienhamir100]

The bad part is, Treasure Planet is actually a really good movie. But like you said, Disney sabotaged the film.

[@shio_juniper]

Its PURE GOLD!!! I love this movie with my whole heart!

[@Selrisitai]

It's my favorite Disney movie and I own it in blu-ray in a beautiful steelbook package. I will lose my MIND if and when it comes out in 4k. With HDR this movie is going to be a sensory extravaganza!

[@kimberlyhartman4865]

Yes, an incredible movie!

[@falloutraider4168]

Even less known is that it has a video game sequel.

[@nightmarerex2035]

is the captan cat girl responsible for furrys?

[@rarinrecruit3150]

Funny how Puss and Boots: Last Wish was mentioned, in that movie Jack Horner is like Disney because of all the fairytales and such they hoarded and collected. And Jack seeking the *Wishing* Star led to his demise. Disney’s “*Wish*” just so happened to be a huge flop and marks their tombstone as they sink into it just like Jack. It’s like a prophecy is being fulfilled people. You can’t write this shit.

[@eat_mold]

As a tumblr girl veteran of 12 years let me tell you that Magnifico dude is straight up hot dilf bait. They literally created that character in hopes the fandom side would obsess over him and buy the merch 😂

[@shio_juniper]

Yes, but they forgot to make one some tiny little detail - to create A DECENT MOVIE. No one would fall just for looks, there HAS to be SOMETHING behind.

[@Monsoon-r5n]

pervert, stop thirsting over images of fictional beings

[@Monsoon-r5n]

tell that to entire human race, its over lol @@shio_juniper

[@eat_mold]

@@shio_juniper indeed. Their loss. He could have been the next Onceler

[@frootsnacc6790]

Oh yeah they were definitely trying to take a page out of Nimona’s book and make their own Ballister; since they don’t have the rights to that movie anymore. But it didn’t work-

[@supereldinho]

You know what's ironic? With current advancements in technology, Disney is now perfectly capable of making 2D animated movies at a fraction of what they'd originally cost. No longer do you have to painstakingly draw every single frame and movement when you can let the software do most of the heavy lifting for you. If anything, they'd only have to put effort in making sure the end product retains the same charm and soul as Disney's classics. Of course, this in itself highlights the actual problem: Disney has no charm or soul anymore. Their creative bankruptcy is only matched by their artistic laziness and financial incompetence.

[@RubykonCubes3668]

THIS! ALL OF THAT!

[@z-man1237]

Preaching to the damn choir on this one bro!

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

The only creativity and magic left at Disney is working on accountancy and doing their taxes.

[@RubykonCubes3668]

@@DonVigaDeFierro i can imagine jumping through the taxation loopholes must take some smooth-braining 😂

[@sirquaffler542]

I know they'll never do it because of the costs involved, but I would prefer them (or any other studio) to go back to the days of hand-drawn 2D animation. And it's specifically because of the higher upfront cost of production. When drawing every frame by hand, you don't have the time or resources to be lazy and just create any frame you want at a whim. You can't just "fix it in post" (at least, not nearly as easily), you have to get it right the first time, and that involves PLANNING and RESOURCE MANAGEMENT. Also, I think it just looks objectively better than CGI. When I look at films like Snow White or The Little Mermaid, for example, I can tell that all the people involved (the writers, animators, musicians, voice actors, directors, producers, etc.) were working towards a singular goal with a fiery passion. I don't see any of that with modern CGI Disney films. All I see are lazy cash grabs that are more interested in pushing "THE MESSAGE" than telling a compelling story.

[@Shoe0nHead]

your Wish movie is much better and i love how Mickey is the main character for the 100th anniversary. but he would need to have a sassy female POC sidekick for modern audiences of course.

[@MrLolguy93]

Don't forget about the side shaved haircut

[@HexonDevelopment]

I wouldn't be suprised if disney turned mickey into or replaced him with a sassy female POC version of himself in order to make the brand more appealing to *ssholes on twitter.

[@frysslaughterlounge6807]

Didn't think I'd see you here.

[@Ghost_of_a_Flea]

A sassy female POC who absolutely, definitely, don't need no man to take care of herself.

[@kvproductions2581]

@@Ghost_of_a_Flea doesn't need a mouse*

[@MrNegativecreep07]

I'm assuming the Queen turns on him so quickly because you aren't allowed to have an actually bad female character.

[@Managable_Mayhem]

How could we forget THAT important detail!? I actually forgot their pandering issue, not sure how I managed that tbh considering it's half of what their content is about.

[@seastriker4437]

Even though in the original story, she was intended to be evil along side her husband, a villainous power couple.

[@LynetteTheMadScientist]

Turning on your husband is actually Bad Female Behavior though. You’re supposed to stand by your husband no matter what. If he’s gone darkside and you disagree, you should make that abundantly clear to him and try to save him, but you DON’T betray him. Padme is a good example of a wife whose husband became evil but she remained faithful to him to the end.

[@seventeenseventythirteen7465]

Literally just ignoring all female villains recently to make this narrative in your head a reality. Like, do you just watch movies without watching them or just not even watch the movies in general and have someone else spoon feed you their own ideology of how "woke" everything is so you have something new to complain about?

[@Noperare]

In woke movies, wife sees marriage as prison and has utter contempt for her husband. She was just waiting for the perfect oportunity to turn on him.

[@adiveler]

Funny how DreamWorks just a year ago made a movie about wishes (that also had the word "Wish" in its title), and that movie was universally praised!

[@PeninaChan]

The fanmade alternative to "Wish" giving by Possum sounds MUCH more entertaining than the crap we got as 'Official' Disney's WIsh.

[@melodyscorpion6606]

Crap is too good for them

[@Attmay]

That’s why it needs to be remade.

[@struttux5156]

Money doesn't equal creativity

[@spirithero2446]

It’s honestly sad/pathetic that the first ever official animation company has turned out like this.

[@suzygirl1843]

Lots of incels who don't watch Princess movies commenting and wishing for a movie that's not for them to fail. Weird

[@mdew578]

​@@suzygirl1843"incels" god, idiots like you love to sling that word around don't you? How dare we expect a multi-billion dollar studio with access to the greatest catalogue of writers and directors as well as animators IN HOLLYWOOD to produce a quality film that is well made. For their 100th anniversary celebration none the less 🙄🙄🙄

[@megabuster3940]

​@@suzygirl1843 lots of femcels who didn't even go financially support the thing they claim to support Weird

[@princesspikachu3915]

It’s not the first animation company. I think Fletcher Studios is older. Heck Walt didn’t even make the first cartoon nor the first full length animated film. There was a stop motion silent German animated film based on Renard the Fox a few years prior to Snow White and back in the early 1910’s there was an animated film from Argentina that used shadow puppetry.

[@spirithero2446]

@@princesspikachu3915Wow, didn’t know that. Should check that out.

[@Cold-Blooded-Jay]

The saddest thing for me is they didn't do a traditional hand-drawn film to celebrate their 100th. They really have forgotten their roots and only want to pump out this safe Frozen-style garbage.

[@moonstruck8245]

Disney isn't a company that makes art or tells stories anymore. They exist for one purpose and one purpose only - to make money, and they've decided the best way to do that is to pump out the same bland, generic, overhyped repeats made as cheaply as possible with songs that are as generic as possible so they can be played on the radio and stuck in commercials and things that would be impossible, or at least harder, if they made them more clearly defined in both style and content. They don't make songs like Hellfire anymore because that's not going to get played on your average radio station - it's too specific. They want songs that can mean anything to anyone, not anything that says anything specific. They're basically producing the movie and musical equivalents of those horoscopes they print everywhere that can apply to everyone: Oh you're a taurus? That means you like your friends, get upset every once in a while, and breathe air sometimes. People will gasp and go "OH THAT'S SO ME" - uh, no duh? That's EVERYONE. But they buy it hook line and sinker and think the position of a ball of gas when they popped out into the world somehow affects the kind of person they are or their destiny. That's what Disney is doing - selling people things that can be ANYONE. Not everyone can be Snow White. Not every little girl is Belle, or Jasmine. Not every little girl is Mulan - but ANY girl could be Asha. Any girl could be Anna or any of the other generic girls they're producing now, because they're all completely bland, vaguely nice characters whose only trait that might be considered defining is 'sometimes awkward and weird' which...hi, that's everyone. Disney doesn't write characters anymore, they are just making movies about characters that are basically those wooden slabs with the body painted on and the hole in it that you go stick your face through to take pictures so it looks like you're that character. They're self-insert fodder.

[@sonicfanboy3375]

What about that recent short

[@missilecarrier]

@@sonicfanboy3375 well, it's about their 100th so

[@briana_patrick]

​@@moonstruck8245 👏👏

[@shio_juniper]

Even Frozen was better! It was beautifully animated, it has "Let it go" and it has some simple, but nice ideas: don't hold your emotions for too long, don't trust blindly the first person you've met and sometimes "true love" can be not a romantic one. And there's Kristoff. Kristoff is sweet, I like him very much (maybe he is the best this movie has). And at least Wish is not a sequel/prequel or a remake. But I don't know what would be worse - Wish or Frozen 3.

[@micmen1496]

Like others have said, your Wish rewrite is actually good. You referenced Disney's past works in ways that MAKE SENSE and aren't just "hey, look at this!" It serves as a plausible "origin story" for EVERY film. And anything that doesn't fully connect can be explained as Mickey just being a storyteller. Seriously i would pay money to watch that.

[@lauramaue]

SO glad you brought up Paperman. Why couldn't the same company that produced that short make a feature film that employed the same techniques? It would have required a bit more time and effort, but this is Disney's 100th anniversary we're talkin' about. That's a huge milestone! If they planned everything out farther in advance, they would have had plenty of time to create a memorable, heartwarming, and visually distinct film. But we got what we got.

[@ericchung3177]

The first time in like a decade where a Disney movie would’ve been better if the villain was redeemed/ was right and Disney fumbles it so they can be even more generic. Wow.

[@matityaloran9157]

Or if he were a Wizard of Oz style fraud or if he were a Rumpelstiltskin type villain who demands unacceptable prices

[@Sorain1]

Heck, it would have been a valuable lesson. That 'resources are finite and not everyone wants something good' Could have had him shown as someone who grew too cynical about people's wishes and have her get him to lighten up, to encourage people to pursue making their dreams reality rather than asking someone else to just give it to them. There was plenty of solid narrative space open to use, so of course they didn't. Edit: Heck, just have him explain that 'It costs a LOT of wishes to make any one come true.' and your done.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@Sorain1 a villain that starts out not as a villain, then shows the dark side, and then redeems themselves. A protagonist who is overly ambitious, then want's to right what the villain presumably did, then accepts that you have to work for your goals. And both end up a better person with more understanding. It doesn't always need to end with the bad guy being imprisoned or sacrificed. And it doesn't even need a "proper" villain, just someone with different methods for reach the same goal.

[@sarafagin3967]

Honestly, people thinking their wish is the one that will be granted in the once a month ceremony isn't that unbelievable when you consider how many people buy lottery tickets, thinking they have even a small chance of winning.

[@100lovenana]

That's true! The way wishes are granted is pretty much that town's version of the lottery. So basically Disney ended up saying that the lottery is evil, not intentionally but they sure keep putting their foot in their mouth with their terrible decisions and forgetting that, although children can be smart, they are also very impressionable and will absorb any message unconsciously.

[@Bopperann]

Artists: But how will the audience relate if the protagonists cannot deeply struggle? Disney: Struggle? That's not how you sell a story. References to other movies. Artists: Can we make a villain couple? Disney: NO. Artists: Okay what about a sympathetic male villain? His wife could- Disney: FIRED. GET OUT. AI will do.

[@NourishmentRedacted]

Villian couple that argues all the time and can only agree on whatever their plan is... defeating the protagonist is the only thing keeping their marriage alive. 🤣 Meanwhile, having another example of a good marriage in some part of the film to show hope to the younger audiences of what a loving marriage looks like.

[@Bopperann]

[The edit was for a minor mistake]

[@Ign0rantP3rson]

@@NourishmentRedacted I'd just love a loving marriage between two villains that bicker occasionally but in the end still love each other deeply. Why can't we have that nowadays. For how bad minions was I did love the villain couple.

[@melodyscorpion6606]

​@@Ign0rantP3rsonevil people being in love is too grey even for disney

[@jrloulanza6534]

​@@NourishmentRedacted if you found my goddamn comment you would be even more disappointed.

[@chew8087]

I really think modern Disney writers have the minds of children, and not in a good way where they can write good children’s stories but in a bad way where they really look at the world like a child where everyone can get along and we should all live in mansions in the sky

[@MegaChickenfish]

You genuinely got one sentence into your alternate story and I was *sold.* We've got tie-ins to existing iconic Disney franchises, Mickey Mouse as a character in it, an easily justified diverse cast, mystery, a clear motivation for the people, like you are *nailing* this. Have you taken writing courses or is this just where my standards are? edit: My contribution though, since Disney loves their marketable nonhuman sidekicks, Micky takes his first spell, an animated broom, with him on this quest, giving him someone to interact and banter with during the journey to the Sorcerer.

[@rustyshackleford234]

Walt Disney is spinning so much in his grave right now that he could power an entire country.

[@danielvysoky5588]

walt disney is frozen in a freezer in disneyland so we should say that he is spinning in a freezer and not in a grave

[@tiiatanner7616]

His spinning ashes are turning into a tornado.

[@rclaws3230]

And yet Disney still wouldn't do that because they would rather scam the Florida tax-payers than pay for their own shit.

[@Gabriel-lh7gy]

​@@danielvysoky5588Walt Disney is spinning so fast on his cryogenic tube that he may thaw if they fuckup another movie

[@Beepers559]

He’s spinning so fast he could warp spacetime

[@ArmednotTriggered]

I knew this movie was doomed to fail as soon as I saw the trailer...Magnifico isn't fundamentally wrong about his concerns about the wishes having consequences...Aladdin *showed* that...Wishes can be bad. Aladdin himself was a flawed, selfish character at first...But nah, here we have cookie cutter princess who is 100% right...I just...Disney...when did you feel the need to dumb down your characters? 😑

[@kristenfuller9168]

I gave it a shot. But then I was close to falling asleep 😴🥱 I just wanted to see if I would like it. At least I didn't fall. I able to watch the whole thing. I didn't feel well after that I had a headache. So not just I felt tired I had a headache

[@stoopidpursun8140]

Dumb characters are a symptom of dumb writers.

[@laurendearnley9595]

Bruce Almighty showed why granting everyone's wishes (or answering everyone's prayers) and not expecting them to do things themselves is a bad thing.

[@animezilla4486]

I disagree with that you seem to forget that the villain was also taking people's memories which is not exactly a good thing

[@seisosimp]

​@@animezilla4486It would have been a bad thing... If they showed that it was having an effect on people in the first place. These people gave their wishes willingly because they themselves believe it cannot happen because of their own efforts and they need magic to succeed. So what if they don't remember? Where's the drawback? Where's the underlying hopelessness? They surely didn't show it in the movie, so what is even the point?

[@Lauren007E]

I mean, imagine the wish of some poor hopeless romantic being granted- would that mean someones will would be exerted over a sentient being, forcing them to love that person back for the rest of their life? No longer able to be the person they once were, only what someone else precieved them to be? Because that's the best example I have for why the "bad guy" was totally right. Even seemingly harmless wishes can be disasterous

[@LuznoLindo]

Yep. That's why I've never liked those kinds of wishes in fiction: Wishes that involve another human being essentially being brainwashed to be something they're not.

[@LuznoLindo]

There's also wishes involving the deaths of others. Imagine a racist wishing that all Jewish people would "disappear". Literally millions of people, just living their lives and minding their business, just "disappearing" in an instant. Horrifying shit.

[@Sorain1]

Heck, take a page from Madoka Magica: Have him point out that often people would wish for something that won't actually get them what they want. Ala Sayaka wishing to 'heal his injury' when actually she wants him to notice her romantically. There's so much narrative... well, Free Real-estate here that was ignored.

[@Lauren007E]

@LuznoLindo see that is a clearly harmful wish, though. Even if you wanted some group just painlessly gone, that clearly hurts a lot of very innocent people and then, of course, leads to the inevitable questions of "Okay, but what about mixed race people? Interfaith marriages? Non practising partitioners? Do they all get removed, too? Do we default to the one drop rule where any ancestor someone has, no matter how far back or removed, does that also put them on the chopping block? Does that mean all humanity dies out because we all have a common ancestor?" Also, it's probably not suitable to have that blatant an allusion to genocide in a kids' film, lol. Gotta imply that stuff, not flat out say it

[@Mereologist]

It would be very easy to portray two people having contradictory wishes, where it is obviously IMPOSSIBLE to grant both. Likewise, it would be very easy to portray those two people suddenly REMEMBERING their wish, and going to war with each other. So many ways to show that the king was completely right. And it's not like anyone had their wishes TAKEN from them... they all VOLUNTEERED for the procedure. If anyone in the kingdom had said, "I don't want to give up my wish", I'm sure the king would have been all, "Cool. You do you." It's not like he NEEDED a pile of un-granted wishes for anything. This movie is so bad on so many levels.

[@Strideo1]

I hope traditional 2D cell animation can made a comeback someday.

[@kociarzultimate384]

Disney is trying it, as CGI animators had unionized

[@MollyHJohns]

As an indie studio? Yes.

[@9116-elias]

i reccomend looking into the studio cartoon saloon. the movie song of the sea is beautiful

[@monotone2256]

Magnifico not realizing all the wishes because it could fuck shit up is actually reasonable ngl

[@algiz_3696]

As a theater Usher, seeing the god awful PNGs of all the Disney characters (yes they included that one character from DINOSAURS) slowly pan up with the credits, I lost all hope, they didn’t even interact with the credits, they were all static and dull. How did Disney think that was a good idea? Answer; they don’t care about art anymore, they only care about that sweet sweet cash (no surprise to anyone though lol) Then my coworker told me about how it ended 💀 and I thought it couldn’t get worse

[@DavidCendana]

Which character from Dinosaurs? I DEMAND TO KNOW!

[@s.g2344]

I also thought it was insulting that they missed out 4 films: The Rescuers 1940s films The Black Cauldron Meet the Robinsons And I think it was disgusting that they didnt include Minnie, Donald and Goofy (heck even Pluto!) in the credits - like I know they havnt really had a film made about them (unless you count Three Musketeers or the shorts) but cmon !!! Like they remembered Splat from Strange World but not these characters 😡😡. No thought put into it and it felt rushed. I'll stick with the Once Upon a Studio short you can tell people who made that loves Disney and respects it old and new.

[@Attmay]

40s Disney was based. Modern Disney is just biased.

[@algiz_3696]

@@DavidCendana I watched it, but it was a looong time ago 😭 so all I know is it was the long necked Dino, not one of the mammal characters if that makes sense

[@NameGKal]

It was Aladar (the protagonist of Dinosaur) that appeared during the end credits.

[@Anon_Spartan]

It may have cost $200 million but it made me smile because of how much Disney is suffering. So that's a silver lining!

[@Attmay]

I would rather see them spend that money on trying to make it good.

[@Mereologist]

Seeing Disney fail is granting my wish, anyway.

[@wakkaseta8351]

So while the democrats are trying to take our God-given rights away, you're more concerned with your hate boner for some cartoon company. Go outside and touch grass.

[@plumaDshinigami]

Like I've been saying, the only original ideas this movie had - such as a villain power couple with the king and queen - were cut out for the sake of making a more mediocre story.

[@shio_juniper]

Or a star boy instead of just a star!

[@amicableenmity9820]

no straight couples allowed now, not even villains

[@HawkinaBox]

LMAO!!! "If I'm going to be paying this much for a drink, Minnie Mouse better be blowing me under the table."

[@accreditedbythenicemaninth6495]

I am quite impressed with your Fantasia prequel outline. It’s like you thought about character motivations, cause and effects for more than a few seconds.

[@DarkPhoenixSaga]

"If I'm gonna pay $5,000 for a Star Wars cocktail, Minnie Mouse better be blowing me under the table while I drink it" lmao.

[@Knights_Oath]

Forget Minnie, for a $5k Star Wars cocktail I better get 30 mins with Natalie Portman in the Slave Leia outfit, and Iger has to eat the result of those 30 mins.

[@michelesambiase3237]

​@@Knights_Oath😂 made my day dude

[@Knights_Oath]

@@michelesambiase3237 Glad I could help lol.

[@Managable_Mayhem]

Wish is probably what the phrase 'resting on your laurels' looks like if you're a movie making company. How very very sad.

[@demod2080]

THANK YOU! Very few people know how scummy Disney has been to their animation departments. Especially what they did to a gem like Treasure Planet.

[@robinfox4440]

I like how you pointed out that there are ways to make 3D animation look 2D, or to combine the two for great effect, but Disney just went the lazy way and basically just put a simple shader on everything and forgot to render the backgrounds out more convincingly.

[@dragonheartanimationsnayli1390]

"if you had the magical ability to grant wishes, you wouldn't want to immorally shouldn't grant wishes. because people would wish for something they shouldn't get. there's always gonna be someone wishing for the extermination of some ethnic group." DAMN THAT HITS HARD!!

[@biotrekker]

If you think about the premise of Wish for more than a minute, it does not hold up. Even you forget your wish, all your friends, family and even neighbors will likely know what it was, and everyone would soon notice that most OTHER people's wishes do not get granted, and someone would eventually tell you what your wish was, even if by accident.

[@LynetteTheMadScientist]

Yeah it’s not as if they can’t write it down either. They give up the memory of their wish willingly because they’d rather play the lottery than live with the fact that they’re responsible for their own dreams coming true.

[@DuneStone6816]

You're giving the movie too much credit. Having watched it, I have no idea if the people giving their wishes are fully conscious of what their wishes are even at the time. I'm pretty sure none of them tell other people what their wishes are, even though I can't think of any reason they wouldn't want to. But you are right for a different reason. If the king only grants one wish a month, then everyone should quickly realize that the chances he'll get around to their wish are tiny, and thus it's probably pointless for them to keep giving him their wishes. But the film carries on as if no one has ever thought of this.

[@laurendearnley9595]

Took me three seconds after hearing the premise to work out how people could easily loophole it. They had entire teams working on this for years and I refuse to believe nobody raised it as an issue. They knew, and they didn't care enough to account for it.

[@Trollzord]

Something interesting to bring on 10:25 is her grandfathers wish was to inspire a generation. This brings up a good question inspired them to what? The wish that he wanted is way to vague to actually grant. It makes sense that he brings up that it could be a revolt because of the metaphorical “weight of the crown”. Cause I actually like that the king is the good guy in the grand scheme of things if your looking from the audience perspective, But It’s also annoying that they portrayed him as a kid stomping his feet when he didn’t get his way.

[@WobblesandBean]

This. Like, "inspire" can mean so many things, not all of them good. Just look at the Beatles, one of the biggest musical influences of all time. Yet there were LOTS of people who were "inspired" to do awful things because of their music, like The Manson Family.

[@Rocek]

All they had to do was to put a reason for Magnifico to actually be evil, like taking the wish also takes away the joy/life force from humans, and maybe make him be under control of the evil book from the start. Then you do the silly little disney breaking the curse/redemption and at the very end show a little snippet of a mouse entering now reformed Magnifico's office to become an apprentice.

[@CheatsythePimp2]

That or at least taking the whole "taking wishes away" thing too far and becoming increasingly selfish about it or granting ones that guarantee him staying in power even at the cost of others who need said wishes.

[@daviddegeorge2667]

Or just have him be a bit of a fraud. He doesn't grant anything beyond the most basic wishes because he can't. He uses the "it could go wrong" defense as an excuse, and just I don't know, needs people's memories to fuel what magic he does have. At least then it'd make sense to be paranoid about someone else having real power. It'd make much more sense to go to an evil book for more power in that case. Basically there's a ton of choices they could have made to make the villian make sense as a villain, but they chose to do none of them.

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

@@daviddegeorge2667 Oh, I like that. having him be some sly shyster who managed to trick his way into being the wishmaker king and is now trapped in a ponzi scheme of his own making.

[@CheatsythePimp2]

@@daviddegeorge2667Or even using one of the star dude’s kind to fuel said wishes without anyone else knowing.

[@1classikai]

"It's basically REMEMBER THIS?: The Movie." THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE

[@gtcproductions4097]

The version of Wish you provided sounds a million times better than what we got

[@misterzygarde6431]

Ah Wish… the poor man’s Puss in Boots 2.

[@thegamingprozone1941]

The downgraded version 😂

[@myspacer]

The reason Disney has declined is because they exploit true talent and actors to the point the people who were making their best films have quit. It's an issue with all corporate film. Greed inherently kills art

[@1God1Fury]

I don't even believe they are driven by greed or rather the greed is the secondary priority. The biggest reason is their obsession with woke propaganda and ESG score. They wouldn't even had to go for greedy, soulless remakes strategy if their story and writing in their new films were good, but woke and identity politics takes higher priority. Which cause massive downfall. It become pretty apparent that they willingly gonna bankrupt entire corporation in order to send and virtue signalling "politicly correct" message

[@WobblesandBean]

This. All of this.

[@davidcook680]

Yeah that's apart of it. Woke writers are cheaper too.

[@myspacer]

@@davidcook680 I dont think its woke so much as it is pandering disney doesn't actually care about minorities or representation. they care about not only making a stir with the anti-woke crowd for publicity while attempting to get money from minorities they don't genuinely care about.

[@deliciouskromer4578]

@@davidcook680because apart from disney, no one really wants them since they are untalented and only make money from exploiting their identity

[@silentspartan913]

I also find it surprising that Wish failed to do what Puss in Boots: The Last Wish succeeded on. Wish feels so convoluted and it just proves that Disney have either really lost their magic or are on the verge of going to.

[@heyyo966]

I also find it really funny that the message of Disney’s biggest movie this year, wish, is to grant every single person’s wishes, even though that sounds like a bad idea when you really think about it and dreamworks’ biggest movie last year, puss in boots 2, says you don’t need a wish, just appreciate what you have. Feels very much in line with the Shrek series and dreamworks in general.

[@silentspartan913]

@@heyyo966not to mention Puss in Boots: The Last Wish handled its plot, main character and villains far more properly than Wish could only dream of. It almost feels like Disney took the “Wish” from Puss in Boots, and tried to work with what they had. Their results: A bore of a story with a convoluted plot that has the most generic and uninspired characters anyone has ever seen in a Disney film. To think, this was the movie that was supposed to be in celebration of 100 years of Disney.

[@animezilla4486]

​@@silentspartan913well at least wish was in the original movie because as much as I like Puss in boots: the last wish don't forget the movie was basically created to bring Shrek which doesn't make sense the character had a proper ending the only reason they're bringing him back because of money

[@ryanartward]

I was at the Lightbox Expo in Pasadena. I saw a panel of concept artists who worked on this film, and they actually looked pretty excited for it, and the concept designs they made had a lot of thought put into it. Its that part of the Disney studios that probably still has any passion to it now.

[@LuznoLindo]

What I find so horrifyingly sad about this is the fact that Disney has the money and resources to create practically anything, yet they chose to go for the safest, most risk-averse option possible. Fear really is the mind-killer, after all.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

The bigger the company, the fewer risks they take. Because it'S not about what makes the consumers happy, but what makes the shareholders happy. And that is money. More money. More money than last year. More money than last quarter. More money than last month. And a lot more money. If you make only slightly less more money than they expect, you failed and half the employees have to be let go to finance the CEOs new jet.

[@LuznoLindo]

@@HappyBeezerStudios That's the even sadder thing: They took no risks at all with Wish, and it still failed. It only made $254 million at the box office, and the movie's budget was $200 million.

[@KäptnKrückschwank]

Disney making Treasure Planet flop is hell of a shame

[@kristinahuchison2511]

NGL your idea with having Mickey as the main character for Wish is so awesome! Was really sad when the video cut off and ended abruptly. I haven’t seen Wish yet, but it already sounds super disappointing. If Disney really wanted to make another Disney Princess as a nod to the first movie being Snow White, why didn’t Disney just pull from a fairytale or other classic story they hadn’t tried yet?? I feel Asha being a biracial character isn’t even explored aside she’s Afro Latino, but it doesn’t go past that. What’s the point of having all this diversity with a ton of unnecessary side characters if they don’t really have a point in the story aside “representation?” I feel one of the biggest problems in the movie is merely the fact they relied so heavily on Easter eggs and references to unofficially make it a Disneyverse situation, where all Disney and Pixar movies coexist in the same universe, despite there’s very clearly certain movies that don’t fit like that. NGL having the goat wish for a metropolis for animals felt like it was just thrown in to reference Zootopia. Valentino is a baby goat, how does he even know that word or wish for a world for only animals??

[@LuznoLindo]

You know, it's super strange to me how Mickey has no real series of his own. Goofy has Goof Troop, Donald has Duck Tales. But Mickey--the Mickey Mouse--has nothing beyond his classic shorts... all the way back in the 1930s.

[@minervasucicorbegoso2097]

Asha is not latina 😂 she's Spanish, from Spain, not from Latin America. So she's a black Spanish. Most Spanish people are white, like most Europeans, but if you travel to the south of Spain you're gonna find brown and black Spanish people too, since they're close to the north of Africa. So in that context it makes sense she's black and spanish. But she's not Latin American, different continents 😂 in Latam we're cool with Spanish too, it's like being Canadian or from USA and having a friend from England.

[@LuznoLindo]

@@minervasucicorbegoso2097 Rosas is apparently situated on an island in the Mediterranean Sea, so you aren't wrong.

[@kristinahuchison2511]

@@LuznoLindo uh, Mickey Mouse had quite a few hour long movies, like the Prince and the Pauper or Mickey’s Christmas Carol. And Goofy got two full blown movies. Donald is the only one I can think of that didn’t get his own movie, though he had Duck Tales and it’s rebooted version that did very well. And yes, in a way Fantasia are Mickey movies as Mickey is the one with the sorcerer’s hat in both.

[@Ariel_ButNotTheMermaid]

I know its been said a million times but if you haven't watched Puss in boots The last wish... Do it!!! They handled the storyline of wishes right They handled funny references to past fairy tale references right They taught a timeless and touching lesson I laughed, I cried, and it honestly kinda helped me with my own fears of death and loneliness. DreamWorks should have been the next "Disney" because of some of their masterful story telling (Prince of Egypt) and satire that caused a cultural shift in animation. (Shrek). But unfortunately for every winner DreamWorks gets it seems they crap out something kinda stupid. Maybe they can bounce back and have consistent hits. Of course, the damn near satanic garbage disney just buys anything it cant compete with and Effs up the universes

[@ZS05]

should I watch the other Puss in Boots movies before though?

[@D4RK_FL4M3]

​@ZS05 I dont think you need to. It would only help you understand 2 characters relationship better but its not important.

[@Ariel_ButNotTheMermaid]

​@@ZS05 I didn't watch any of the previous Puss in boots. I had just watched Shrek 1 through 3. I didn't even finish the shrek movies. You honestly don't need the lore to easily follow along. There are plenty of references to his past adventures and if you know the character well enough from shrek 2, then it all makes sense I wasn't familiar with Kitty soft paws but they have a lot of flash backs and exposition so you get to know her.

[@tultsi93]

ikr? It hit me right on the feelings, and made me feel like I'm a kid again.

[@kira-dk2mx]

Honestly, let Dreamworks be smalltime. I don't want them getting too big that they end up like Disney.

[@caturine6625]

“disney is pandering to people who are openly anti-family.” never heard the situation explained that way before, it’s so succinct and explains a lot.

[@tipf]

literally the most deranged shit i've heard in a good while.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

​@tipf how? Disney can't and won't make up it's mind on whose ideologies to push because they would loose money

[@tipf]

@@bungiecrimes7247 "anti family" never heard it explained that way before because it's so stupid.

[@morthosmaxori5354]

Ironically, Treasure Planet holds a special place in my heart despite Disney's self-sabotage.

[@dragons_advocate]

I have heard it said that Disney's values are no longer aligned with the audience, hence they cannot create good movies anymore. Hearing your assessment seems to support that.

[@jeremyallen5974]

Makes me wonder why South Park didn't go with THAT story in Enter the Panderverse instead of the writers trying to act like it was some sort of misunderstanding with the fanbase that led them up shit creek rather than their desperate attempts to appeal to a group of morons who don't care about their products

[@animezilla4486]

I disagree that's not the case

[@jeremyallen5974]

@@animezilla4486 The last several years of total bombs would disagree with you

[@commandorpirx912]

Possum, write a proper ending to your plot and pitch it to Disney when they finally get their shit together under new management, because it sure sounded better than anything that has crawled out of the House of Mouse in a decade.

[@MrHangman56]

that rewrite was one the best things ever. disney should honestly be ashamed at how bad their products have become that someone could make a better idea in less than 10 minutes

[@Axew325Ryan]

This dude is so blunt it is actually so beautiful

[@Unownshipper]

Thank you! Thanks for summarizing a basic idea this movie fails to even explore: there ARE bad wishes. Ex. "I love her so much, I wish that she loved me!" Okay, well... she doesn't. So forcing her to do so is mind-control... or worse! The stress of having to manage the wishes and desires of a kingdom of people could drive anyone to inaction, bad decisions, or insanity. Magnifico could be a fine representation of how politicians enter with the best of intentions but become corrupted by power. There was no need for the heel-turn transition into evil megalomania (certainly not time constraints, the movie is barely an hour and a half). I don't know why they didn't play up his tragic backstory that they introduced and promptly never mentioned again. The compulsion for control after losing your home is an understandable motivation. It ties into the truth that victimized people can themselves become victimizers; hurt people who hurt people. There WAS a good message here. There WAS potential to explore... but they did NONE of that because Disney has become hesitant to tell compelling stories that aren't safely market-tested to within an inch of their lives.

[@SnagTheRabbit]

As a Gen Z-er who watched and fully enjoyed Snow White when I was 6, I can confirm, Disney does not need to remake their movies for "modern audiences."

[@briana_patrick]

Exactly. A good movie is a good movie. They treat their audience like we're all snowflakes 😐

[@Monsoon-r5n]

cus you are one@@briana_patrick

[@Monsoon-r5n]

well they did, your iqs dropped to a solid 70 or 80 at best

[@n.a.7723]

@@Monsoon-r5nwe’re all snowflakes!🤗❄️❄️❄️❄️ /s

[@I_want_a_discount_in_life]

@@n.a.7723 snowflakes watching Snow White, the only time were calling someone a snowflake would be appropriate and it's somewhat cute

[@jorijoestar4998]

Prince of Egypt is one of the greatest 2d animated movies of all time

[@MrLolguy93]

If they wanted to make an MCU style crossover within their movies, they could have tried that with Gargoyles, Tarzan and Atlantis, since all those shows and movies have actually hinted at connections between each other. Plus, you have to admit Tarzan fighting alongside Goliath sounds awesome

[@rifarm5]

They already have that. It called kingdom hearts. They just refuse to make a movie or tv show.

[@Quickdrawingartist]

Not awesome, but borderline legendary. At most, at might be another epic we need after all "this".

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

@@rifarm5and Disney Infinity was a fun crossover.

[@MrLolguy93]

@@Quickdrawingartist funnily enough, Disney actually planned all of the things I mentioned, but scrapped it

[@flarestriker2005]

@@rifarm5 Kingdom Hearts should've been a movie for Disney's 100th Celebration ngl

[@Roofhack]

When the villain seems more relatable, then you know you are a dead company.

[@knightpal1545]

The villian has a really good point actually. If you just grant stuff without thinking there'll be fallout. The story should have had a twist where the real story is trusting the words of your elders. And instead the villian is actually right and the stupid girl is wrong. And star is the real villian. Then it'd end with mr "evil" wizard guy would sacrifice himself to protect his people and the stupid girl. And it'd end with her taking his place and following in his footsteps and giving a atory on how you may not always be right...oh wait that would be a risk. And disney doesn't do those anymore.

[@knightpal1545]

I can't be making this up. I fr got a ad about how Florida is banning LGBTQ+ books and why it must be stopped because it'll stop kids from BECOMING queer. It's just so fitting that a ad about leftist politics trying to brain wash children would show up on something related to Disney.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Even better: have both sides acknowledge that the other is right. The old have the experience to know consequences, but can be stuck in their ways. The young can be full of enthusiasm and ideas, but don't overthink the aftermath.

[@garysuarez9614]

"Bland to the point of monochromicity, and will return to the Land of the Dead with no fanfare nor weeping eye. You made no difference, and you will not be missed." A possum waxes rhapsodic...probably.

[@AnonJuggerbot]

It occurs to me that Magnifico's MO is actually really genius for reasons you point out early on. People are going to have terrible, awful wishes, like wishing blacks were slaves again, wishing all the Jews were dead, wishing for infinite money, lobotomizing women, etc. By making them not only put this wish in his hands, but also FORGET the wish, anyone with an awful wish like that objectively becomes a better person because they have this evil desire removed; That leaves only those with good-hearted wishes based in kindness and equality who then get their wishes granted. There is literally not a single downside here. Disney has to twist themselves in knots to pretend there is by making Magnifico overly selective and arbitrary about it.

[@AnonJuggerbot]

It's aggravating because all the troglodytes whining and crying that black people exist fail to understand why the movie is ACTUALLY bad, and their stupid worldviews are the fuel used to defend it in spite of it actually being a bad dumb movie for reasons that have nothing to do with depictions of women being outside of kitchens.

[@gurriato]

You mean based wishes.

[@DaniG.German883]

Those wishes you listed are great

[@Attmay]

Yet another reason why this is a bad movie and needs to be pulled from circulation and remade at once.

[@Selrisitai]

Why did you only list positive and good things as "terrible, awful" wishes?

[@igodreamer7096]

"then Mickey wake up from his dream..." - He can't keep getting way with it!

[@natebit8130]

Magnifico's reasoning for not granting wishes makes sense. What if her grandfather wanted to influence the youth into wickedness in a way that would destroy the kingdom? What if her behavior is because of her grandfather's influence, proving his point?

[@mr.histor1996]

Forget what he wanted to inspire the next generation to do, the problem is that he wanted to use magic to mind control an entire generation of people. That's inherently evil. He wished for mass mindcontrol.

[@realswobby]

That was genuinely a great story at the end, idk if it would be a bit too long for a movie but still, it all maked sense, the characters were just a few and truly needed, and the shoutouts to other movies were actually an important part of the plot. Great job!

[@someguyontheinternet2399]

Wait, if everyone asks for their wish to be granted at 18 and the grandfather is 100... then how old is Magnifico? He looks at least 40 years younger than grandpa.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

Maybe he wished for immortality

[@kociarzultimate384]

Or he arrived at kingdom while being like 80s already

[@ravenouself4181]

@@MASTEROFEVIL Nah, he isn't Asha and didn't wish upon a Star. It was stated that he earned his power. So, my guess is that magic itself is what is keeping him alive for so long.

[@jupitersnoot4915]

If they wanted to make a movie with the plot "getting everything you wish for is a bad thing" all they had to do was have Magnifico be a good guy, and the bad guy is a different wizard who comes along and starts granting any and all wishes people have and causing chaos in an attempt to usurp Magnifico, and Asha has to help stop evil wizard.

[@Sjono]

It is ridiculous how Mickey has yet to have a fully featured movie If Bugs Bunny and Mario can get movies surely Mickey can as well

[@happysocialmoth1197]

Wait- now that u mention it… HOW COME DISNEY DIDNT DO THAT YET????

[@Sjono]

@@happysocialmoth1197 The closest are three short films, one straight to video movie, and appearances in Fantasia and Who Framed Roger Rabbit but no full featured film of his own Even stranger is how he didn’t appear in Wreck it Ralph 2 or Rescue Rangers movie

[@HachannEinzbern]

There's technically "The Three Musketeers" from 2004

[@whiteasparagus4331]

Pretty sure the three musketeers counts

[@Sjono]

@@HachannEinzbern Getting a cheap direct to video movie isn’t as impactful as having a big budget theatrical film

[@sweethistortea]

Hunchback of Notre Dame is my favourite Disney movie, and it has one of THE best soundtracks in Disney history.

[@NopWorks]

Glad that you mentioned Paperman. Even though the talens behind it have already left, Disney should still have the knowledge to make 3D look like 2D. Also, honorable mention that Paperman's plot revolves around a man and a women eventually falling in love. It's rare to see those these days.

[@thatguythatdoesstuff5899]

I wish I was watching Atlantis the lost empire.

[@latrolettteeeeeee]

empire

[@thatguythatdoesstuff5899]

@@latrolettteeeeeee Whoops! Fixed, thanks for letting me know.

[@Movypro23]

Much better movie 🤪🤟🏻

[@HypK799]

Despite your removal of the falling action and conclusion, your story at the end is legitimately really good. It's simple, it has an important universal message about working hard to achieve your goals, it shows the consequences of not doing so, and it's based on one of the most famous shorts from one of their most creative movies staring Disney's main character and brand icon (making it completely suitable for a 100-year anniversary film).

[@Piromysl359]

I find it very telling, that the only lifeline Disney has are remakes of their old classics, but when they try something original, it absolutely bombs. The best part is that they'll eventually run out of those classics.

[@Managable_Mayhem]

That's the fun thing tho: It's NOT their last lifeline! Think about it, they started with making fairytale movies. They could take SO many fairytale and myths and whatnot or stories from Gebrüder Grimm and make movies like in the olden days and people would gobble that stuff up. Adults and children alike. Hell, they could even do as they did with Lion King and Bambi and use someone else's story, change it up a bit and have a great story too (with consent of the author this time tho, no need to redo what happened with Lion King). There is MANY things they could do, things that are already written out for them. And it would work just fine. So I do not understand why they do this, at all.

[@axios4702]

Nah, once they have remade in live action all their old movies they will remake in animation all their old movies.

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

@@Managable_Mayhem Even if they resorted to that, they would mess it up by enforcing The Message.

[@Managable_Mayhem]

@@Ghalaghor_McAllistor Probably. With their standard of having to shoe horn in wokeness and whatnot. Which is still weird to me since kids don't give a damn about that stuff or don't even know what is going or and adults also don't. I don't even wanna know how small a percentage of their ACTUAL audience really cares. And I mean the 'i MUST have this' kind, not the 'this is nice to be in the movie' kind. BIG difference. XD

[@HerrDeutschBlood]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they decided to remake Song of the South when they run out of ideas for remakes.

[@Ka_muu]

thanks for reminding me to listen to The Bells of Notre Dame again

[@oceanbreeze3172]

Perfect! You explained the external and internal context completely, and I loved the alternate story! It made me realize that even Disney is too scared to use Mickey mouse, why not for their 100th? Of course, it also made my heart ache for the "magical" feeling of hand drawn lavish sights. Somehow, movies become less ambitious after the studio becomes richer. My dad said it's because of stockholders or something.

[@MrContentment3013]

If an alternative and exceptional rewrite - whether it’s done spitefully or not - is already better than the actual movie along with what other studios produce, it may yet be time to say the House of Mouse is history. Moreover, I love the comparison between Wish and Hunchback of Notre Dame; not only does it show how far Disney has fallen, but also it insinuates there is far, far more to its increasingly certain downfall than anyone could possibly know. I.e., for all we the audience know, it could be sign that other companies could come along to replace it as some of the world’s best storytellers. In any case, in terms of the above comparison, perhaps it may also be safe to say Disney will burn in its own self-made hellfire for seeing corruption everywhere except within, like Frollo before them.

[@axios4702]

Disney owns the childhood of billions of people worldwide and they have somehow managed to erode the sentimental value and good will that comes with that into apathy. Funny how hubris comes for all, even the greatest giants.

[@darianstarfrog]

Yup, Gen X was their cash cow, and they spat in our faces.. weird, wEiRd!

[@Mr.Corinthians]

It's not hubirs, it's part of ideological subversion. Vanguard and Blackrock are the two largest shareholders in Disney and the majority of US Corporations. You need to ask yourself, "Who runs those companies?", and "What is their end goal?" Right now, it appears as though Disney and these other entertainment companies are going out of their way to destroy everything they built up to that point, and to create division while touting "diversity, equity and inclusion". As we can see, it isn't working for them, and it never was supposed to. You may want to look up Hegelian Dialectic, Reverse Psychology and Controlled Opposition. Let's say you were of a certain ethnic group from the Middle East. You may have a religious book that you interpret as meaning that your people are to bring light into the world, and that you are to create the kingdom of God on earth. The best way to control the opposition, is to lead it yourself. If you were an Ultra Conservative Religious group of people, you would control the opposition and destroy them from within. You would make society turn against the opposition and seek you for answers to all of our problems. You would show the world how Liberals, mainly Atheistic Liberals who do not adhere to the Law of Moses, destroy civilizations through hedonism and the promotion of immorality. It happened to Greece, Rome and many other nations/empires over the last few millennia. In some ways, you could say the King in this movie is equal to God. God could grant whatever wishes He desired, but in His wisdom, He doesn't do so because it would cause more trouble than good and would actually lead to our own downfalls. Marxists, and their indoctrinated young people, don't see it that way. They argue that "If there was a God, evil would not exist in our world", not realizing that it is people who give in to their personal desires/wishes over the well-being of others is what leads to corruption, greed, murder and hatred. When God says "No" to us, it's for our own good. These Marxist see being told "no" as oppression by an evil authority figure. That being said, the people on the other side of the equation are going to take things too far to course correct. Just like Liberals not being able to force people to accept their ideology, you can't force anyone to follow God, it needs to be a personal decision which involves placing your faith in Jesus Christ as the atonement for your sins. These people are going to enforce religious laws in the very near future, and if you do not comply, you are removed from society. And they will do this while thinking they are doing the will of God, which they will not.

[@amicableenmity9820]

They don't care about the older fans. They want to influence the younger generations.

[@extremenature9190]

Disney has been doing the same stuff for decades. It would be interesting to see what they would create if they stopped trying so hard to make something “feel Disney”. Everyone knows the more you try to make something a certain way, it only bites you in the ass later

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

Disney the company’s completely different from Disney’s the studio.

[@extremenature9190]

@@ShockwaveFPSStudios yes it is why do you bring that up?

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

@@extremenature9190 Because some people don’t know which Disney they’re referring to. Like a moth, to a flame.

[@extremenature9190]

@@ShockwaveFPSStudios I think you might making connections that aren’t really there. Meaning I have no idea what you are talking about with that analogy. I’m referring to Walt Disney because we all know he’s under the mountain controlling everything!!!!!

[@lasercraft32]

Imagine if their 100 year anniversary was _actually_ about Mickey Mouse... Would have been genius!

[@DieselWeasel]

I would HAPPILY pay to watch YOUR version.

[@manletopia4801]

I wish the Goblin would turn off the stove and stop raising my gas bill

[@glidershower]

I have the feeling this movie was made expressly to be a tax write-off since Diznee never bothered promoting it anywhere near as much as some of its past releases.

[@JohnDoe-ku4jj]

There is a noteable presence in my groceries. Like having the character on my water bottle or banana will make me want to see it

[@topherowlish]

There was plenty of advertisements all over TV in Japan in October. Japan loves Disney still though.

[@glidershower]

@@JohnDoe-ku4jj I mean, but the point is to sell merchandise _after the movie,_ not before, isn't it? The animation is the hook to reel people to shell out money for cheap dodgy plastic goods with their likeness. I can't even remember an advert, and even in walmart, the Wish toy bin just popped in there outta the blue. No movie advertising, no posters for the film, nothing. Had to look up that it was a film.

[@grandmagunsales2125]

​@@glidershowerThat is because, my dear street rat, the last 8 times Disney made a trailer they got ridiculed so hard for the contents of it (ex. that dumb Cinderella knock off where people thought the poster was shaming fatness instead of purple dresses/ugliness, or literally just the live action Moana trailer) that they realized the only way to safely make films without offending people is to have "as diverse a cast as possible" and "never show trailers, ideally just don't show the trailer to the ethnicity that we forgot to include so as to not hurt their feelings". AND THE IDEA DOES WORK... For games. Every game that came out with absolutely no marketing does infinitely better than the ones that did... but this formula doesn't apply to movies. At least not nameless kids movies. Sure, a Jigsaw movie could just drop a title without a trailer and get better reactions than if they had dropped a trailer, but that's cause they're banking off whatever fans they still have to just t r u s t t h e m.

[@silverscorpio24]

Except for all the merch. Which are collecting dust in WalMarts across the US.

[@ivycream7228]

What’s worse is that some animators who worked on this film posted online about what happened: corporate meddling

[@alucrasher27]

I’ve found Disney creepypastas far more entertaining than anything the actual company has made.

[@marcovandermerwe3026]

I tried to take my cat to see wish. She just threw up on the carpet. In retrospect cleaning the carpet was probably more fun than wish would have been.