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The4thSnake

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@anotherdude5974
@anotherdude5974 5 жыл бұрын
Netherrealm Studios: *Has Noob Saibot, a perfect character to kill Scorpion as it would be the envodiment of his biggest mistakes finally catching up to him while making his past self aware on how the path he's taking is not the correct one, thus starting his redemption* Also Netherrealm Studios: Nah, let's use D'Vorah, she talk funny lol
@ethankelly8862
@ethankelly8862 5 жыл бұрын
It amazes me how they missed that opportunity when it would've been absolutely perfect. Imagine the pre fight dialog if between Sub zero and Noob if the latter was the one to kill scorpoin. Sub Zero: This is for Hanzo. Noob: Scorpion was your enemy . Sub Zero: He was your enemy.He was my equal.
@cardalesimpson5901
@cardalesimpson5901 5 жыл бұрын
Why would noob kill scorpion for getting him turned into a shadow I don't even think noob hates being a shadow
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity 5 жыл бұрын
@@cardalesimpson5901 Revenge for killing him in the first place.
@shawklan27
@shawklan27 5 жыл бұрын
@@UnifiedEntity yep a eye for a eye has they say
@baroquechevalier8516
@baroquechevalier8516 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks now you've fixed 60% of the game's story.
@Jaded_Jinx
@Jaded_Jinx 5 жыл бұрын
MK9: Let's reboot the series and try our best to mend the story. MK11: *HEY YOU WANNA DO THAT AGAIN BUT SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE?!*
@xgray2012
@xgray2012 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't they tried to reset the rebooted timeline with this incarnation? Because, I am pretty sure that this is a reset, not a reboot.
@darthmisogyny3828
@darthmisogyny3828 5 жыл бұрын
They wrote themselves into a wall again lmao
@AegisKHAOS
@AegisKHAOS 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much my thought. :P
@violetthebat8810
@violetthebat8810 5 жыл бұрын
Jinx The Babe Cannon MK 11 was a mistake.😔
@jaernihiltheus7817
@jaernihiltheus7817 5 жыл бұрын
Both MK9 and MK11 are in-continuity reboots. Specifically they do the "Grand Reset" trope. Basically, they wanted to try and do a Crisis on Infinite Earths style story for MK11, but without 90% of their cast (living or dead, not that it matters cause Kronika can pull dead characters out of her ass anyways) and any sort of respect for their own canon. Unlike Crisis which, you know, *did* do that. Grand Resets only work when they're significantly rare in a series, whereas in MK it hasn't even been a decade and they've had 2 out of 3 games do it. Not only that, but erasing everything only feels earned when they bring in everyone, as if you're gonna kill an important character (either to the story, the fans, or the lore. Which for MK is almost every playable + a good few dozen others) you better make damn sure you give them a good send off. If they were going to pull this bullshit, the *base* roster should've been Armageddon-sized and the story mode should've been a good 5 or 6 hours (cutscenes only). And they need to stop retconing stuff on a whim and only do so when there's an actual reason to.
@slightlytwistedagain
@slightlytwistedagain 5 жыл бұрын
IMO corrupted Raiden should have been the main villain, Kronika added absolutely nothing worthwhile to the MK mythology.
@machine1685
@machine1685 5 жыл бұрын
Her presence muddles things up. There's Titans now, but what does that mean for the One Being? Because IIRC, she says before her fight with Liu Kang that the realms are no more, which would mean the One Being would be restored. But nothing comes of that. So has the One Being been replaced with the Titans?
@naturebadness1556
@naturebadness1556 5 жыл бұрын
The One Being is mentioned a lot in battle dialogues The Titans and The One Being on the same level they both can erase the realms and recreate them but The One Being was defeated by the Elder Gods and conscious split into the Kamidogu's but a titan can erase the elder gods and prevent the one being.
@machine1685
@machine1685 5 жыл бұрын
@@naturebadness1556 A couple things wrong with that: 1. I don't really trust the battle dialogues for reliable info since they also give D'Vorah the credit for killing King Jerrod, when everything else tells us Shao Kahn did it. 2. And if the Titans are as powerful as the One Being, then there's no way in hell Liu Kang would've been able to calcify and kill Kronika, considering he only recieved Raiden's power while Kronika absorbed a God herself. The One Being had to be split into the Realms in order to keep it down, as not even the Elder Gods could destroy it completely. This is ignoring that we've were explicitly told back in MK:D that "...in the beginning of time, there only existed the One Being and the Elder Gods." The Titans are a retcon. And not even a good one. Their entire concept is just the Greek Titans myth copy and pasted over. Nothing added to them to make them unique to MK.
@shawziiz5031
@shawziiz5031 5 жыл бұрын
@@machine1685 When Kronika say about the realms are no more, she meant the timeline that Liu Kang and the rest has experience. What Kronika do is reset the flow of time, not erased the existence. So yea, One Being is still dead because only time were reset but the universe is still exist. One Being is an entity that live since time immemorial. After it death that the Titans manage to restored order, creating history and place Gods as the guardian of it.
@machine1685
@machine1685 5 жыл бұрын
@@shawziiz5031 Those are 2 different statements, though. She says- and I quote- "The realms as you know them are undone. Erased." The realms are erased. He can't save a future that no long exists because the realms themselves no longer do. So by Kronika's own admission, she undid the realms. Thus, the One Being should be revived. There's no other explanation as to where Liu Kang and Kitana are at the end, since Kronika's keep is in Earthrealm, but the ending seems to be in a void. And as for the Titans, afaik the info you have isn't supported anywhere in the story so Idk the validity of them. The history of the Elder Gods and the One Being existing since the beginning doesn't work if the Elder Gods are the children of Titans. I believe Cetrion even says that the One Being predates everything, saying: Cetrion 1: "We are children of the One Being." Cetrion 2: "As are all Gods of the Realms." Cetrion 1: "Then why destroy what it made?" How could that be true if the story tells us that Cetrion is the child of Kronika?
@teppop93
@teppop93 5 жыл бұрын
Bi-Han should've been the one to kill Hanzo
@travisgoat9700
@travisgoat9700 5 жыл бұрын
teppop93 FACTS he would finally win a fight and it would actually have meaning
@alexandruanghel7842
@alexandruanghel7842 5 жыл бұрын
@@travisgoat9700 "finally win a fight" mythologies sub zero dude.
@mangmango4808
@mangmango4808 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexandruanghel7842 He's talking about the Noob version of him.
@cardalesimpson5901
@cardalesimpson5901 5 жыл бұрын
I think noob doesn't even give a f*** about scorpion anymore because he likes being Shadow so much I guess
@blacksquirdward3301
@blacksquirdward3301 5 жыл бұрын
@@travisgoat9700 sneaking in a kill like what dvorah did isnt a win sir
@sarunotaslt
@sarunotaslt 5 жыл бұрын
Netherrealm: time to kill of a kharacter D'vorah: now does look like a job for me
@kiwakokirigiri3923
@kiwakokirigiri3923 5 жыл бұрын
*for this one
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 5 жыл бұрын
She does say "To me" when she saves Kahn in MK11.
@kiwakokirigiri3923
@kiwakokirigiri3923 5 жыл бұрын
@@The4thSnakeI didn't catch that, how can they not even keep THAT consistent?
@Nekusa
@Nekusa 5 жыл бұрын
@@The4thSnake HOLYSHIT
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 5 жыл бұрын
There's several times D'Vora refers to herself as "me" and "I", even in MKX.
@MysteriousTomJenkins
@MysteriousTomJenkins 5 жыл бұрын
Kabal was wasted as both versions were just minions for the villains. I can accept undead Kabal being a minion but past Kabal should be a good guy, why is he working for Kano? Apparently MK9 takes place in several months, I am sure Kabal reformed earlier than the Outworld invasion since he is partners with Stryker so why the fuck would his MK2-3 version work for Kano or even listen to what he has to say? Also, not only did they forget past Kabal was a good guy, they forget that Kabal also died a hero. Cassie: *seeing Kabal* Isn't that one of Kano's goons? No....? That's someone who fought and died on the same side as your mom and dad when Shao-Kahn invaded, why does no one care? Noob was wasted, he gets sucked up in a Soulnado, previously when this happened to Scorpion it brought him in contact with the Elder Gods who made him their champion, so wouldn't it have been interesting if Noob got this fate instead? Like, imagine this, during the Lin-Kuei bit you have cyberized Lin-Kuei that are also corrupted by Noob, making them even stronger, Sub-Zero and Scorpion barely manage to deal with them and when one of them finally beats Noob, it turns out he was just toying with them and a clone knocks them out while they are distracted. The player character is unconscious and the other character is captured and out numbered, it seems like Noob won and then...he's blasted with a big blast of light. The other character looks to see who fired it off and sees someone who looks similar to Noob, but made of light instead of shadows and has his mask off so its clear its Bi-Han. Getting caught in the Soulnado brought him to Heaven similar to what happened to Scorpion and the purity of the realm managed to eliminate some of his corruption, so when offered the chance to be a champion of the Elder Gods, he is capable of accepting as he has a slight bit of humanity and is eager to help his brother and atone for the murder of Scorpion. Bam, you have a good Noob/Bi-Han alongside an evil one so you get both versions and they can have very similar powers with a few variation specific differences. Noob actually matters to the plot and can have character moments with Kuai-Liang, Hanzo and his past self instead of just being another useless jobber. Frost was wasted, yet again she is the failed student turned traitor. Why the hell wasn't she with the Kombat Kids? You have two Special Forces, Shirai Ryu, Shaolin but no Lin-Kuei? Imagine in MKX you had Frost alongside them, you had someone similar to Kung-Jin who wasn't too much of a team player but even worse but eventually through team work she warms up to them and becomes a better partner, or maybe give her a rivalry with Tekada, maybe she is pissed that Scorpion and Sub-Zero made peace and just treats Tekada like shit until something happens that makes her grow to respect Tekada and simultaneously the Shirai Ryu. Hell, you could have it to where part of the conflict is her overblown ego where she assumes she is better than everyone else, is consistently proven wrong, saved by Tekada and thus gives him and his clan respect but all the losses really gives her an inferiority complex where she feels she is worthless. Cut to MK11 where she dissapears with Sub-Zero not knowing where she is but during the Lin-Kuei chapter he runs into her, and it seems like she betrayed them for power, becoming cyberized to become stronger yet after you defeat her you find out that no, she didn't betray the Lin-Kuei, she actually attempted to save them from Sektor and was captured, cyberized against her will and once broken free, her last act is to destroy the Cyber Lin-Kuei similar to Cyrax, redeeming her and giving her an heroic death as opposed to what they did instead...nothing. She is the same character as before, no change what so ever except instead of being power hungry she is a child who wants attention. Frost: Raiden didn't pay attention to me, Sub-Zero didn't, the Elder Gods didn't, only Kronika Senpai noticed me! >:c Ermac, Smoke, Mileena, Shang-Tsung, Quan-Chi and Shinnok should have been in this. The first five were at the Koliseum so should have been present when Kronika merged the past and present but since the past and present are merged, decapitated Shinnok should have been replaced by normal Shinnok from the past similar to Raiden. I don't know what it is but I feel like NRS despises reusing characters from a previous roster, even when those characters are still involved with the story NRS decides to cut them out of the playable roster for no rhyme or reason, either they are NPCs or ignored in the game entirely. Just bring them back, keep a similar moveset but add some new moves and improve on them instead of ignoring them completely.
@princeivy7065
@princeivy7065 5 жыл бұрын
Jobbers,Story Errors,Wasted Potential, Missing Important Characters, and Lazy Writing. This comment explains everything
@thefrazier2807
@thefrazier2807 4 жыл бұрын
damn, tbh i thought this was gonna be a short paragraph.
@John-Stark
@John-Stark 4 жыл бұрын
I would have prefered a Romance between Frost and Takeda
@Ninetails2000
@Ninetails2000 4 жыл бұрын
"Who's Kabal?" "I dunno, he looks evil." "It says here he was a reformed hero after working with Kano." "He works for Kano! That's the perfect characterization for him!" "And it also says he's fast like The Flash. We can make him an evil The Flash who works for Kano!" "If I weren't shackled to this computer with a shock collar that electrocutes me any time I stop working, I would kiss you."
@SoulReaper2367
@SoulReaper2367 2 жыл бұрын
@@John-Stark Forrest Fox
@TheSpacey52
@TheSpacey52 5 жыл бұрын
Also Johnny Cage gets completely shrugged off after his chapter and is never seen or mentioned again. Even in MK9 he had a lot more involvement to the story than here
@ivanyy
@ivanyy 4 жыл бұрын
I was so confused when he just disappeared for the ending, a couple of bullets wouldnt have stopped Johnny from getting back into the action.
@xyrus7366
@xyrus7366 4 жыл бұрын
@@ivanyy But didn't he get knee capped? That definetly would keep him out of action for the rest of the story.
@ivanyy
@ivanyy 4 жыл бұрын
@@xyrus7366 It's a Mk character, that shouldnt stop him for long
@NitroNEXT
@NitroNEXT 4 жыл бұрын
THAT was an improvement. I hated how MKX was all about the Cage family.
@flair541
@flair541 4 жыл бұрын
At least it was a great chapter. save for the very ending.
@tomcurl8034
@tomcurl8034 5 жыл бұрын
cyrax is wasted because they just rehash his sacrifice from the mkx comics
@taysteeeaf
@taysteeeaf 5 жыл бұрын
And it did nothingggggg
@machine1685
@machine1685 5 жыл бұрын
I think Cyrax shouldn't have been cyberized in this new timeline in the first place.
@nightgazer5780
@nightgazer5780 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Curl I think it was the point that they were using the same method from the comics, since Sub Zero already knew it would work. Not that they said that
@Hawkingbird1
@Hawkingbird1 5 жыл бұрын
It's a bit different from the comic as Cyrax doesn't die in the game. Intro dialogue with Sub and Sonya confirm he's still alive.
@eem2wavy133
@eem2wavy133 5 жыл бұрын
x CEGold why?
@Menfhis24
@Menfhis24 5 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me that there are shows and franchises where the fans can do a better job writing the story than the people who are paid to do it for a living
@icetramonster8622
@icetramonster8622 5 жыл бұрын
I just wish that John Tobias was still working on the MK stories and these stories would have been better. But he had to leave after MK4.
@samuelkibunda6960
@samuelkibunda6960 5 жыл бұрын
Nope he left after MK 4 due to harsh working condition
@icetramonster8622
@icetramonster8622 5 жыл бұрын
@@samuelkibunda6960 oh Yeah! I forgot about that
@KabroSaavedra
@KabroSaavedra 4 жыл бұрын
He was in Special Force
@TheDigitalApple
@TheDigitalApple 4 жыл бұрын
IceTrAMonster He actually left in Deception!
@98izzark69
@98izzark69 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheDigitalApple I was gonna say plot for Deadly Alliance and Deception wete good
@PiousPuddle
@PiousPuddle 5 жыл бұрын
Reptile could have been used as a member of kronika’s army because she could’ve promised him to return his almost extinct race. The thing he wants the most. And maybe some interference or something with Shao kahn or Mileena as he used to serve them. And maybe not have the ending not make everything we’ve done not matter
@John-Stark
@John-Stark 4 жыл бұрын
But I like him and Kotal being bros...
@jaketylenol
@jaketylenol 5 жыл бұрын
I would never have gotten rid of the Kombat Kids. BUT...I hated they did this story the way they did. The entire point of MK9 was a reboot and then all of a sudden the series reboots AGAIN!? Why!? What was the purpose?!
@huytungnguyen119
@huytungnguyen119 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like Mortal Kombat series has a tradition that after a trilogy it would rebooted itself: MK1-3, MKDA-A, MK9-11
@rorycummings4243
@rorycummings4243 4 жыл бұрын
@@huytungnguyen119 the series rebooted after mk3?
@CorsairPrince
@CorsairPrince 3 жыл бұрын
@@rorycummings4243 It didn’t reboot in terms of story
@killrcupcake2994
@killrcupcake2994 5 жыл бұрын
I was mad about Mileena before but now hearing all the possible outcomes and wasted plotential I'm beyond pissed about her handling
@viniciusraraujo
@viniciusraraujo 5 жыл бұрын
I think I feel better with mileena not present. Could you imagine bringing her back just to be a jobber like everyone that returned? Gameplay wise hell yeah bring her back. But in story mode? I domt trust NS to make her justice,she would have been just another jobber for Kitana to mock.
@andysneck9157
@andysneck9157 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I mean I was looking forward to MK 11 to see what the characters would look like but then they didn't have Mileena, which made me a little mad and then all the other stuff added on to it that could've been a choice or even considered for the game makes me even more angry. They didn't even put Mileena in the story or fucking DLC. Instead they have that "Kitana has her sais" bullshit instead of putting her in the fucking game!
@jeggsonvohees2201
@jeggsonvohees2201 5 жыл бұрын
It's crazy to see the "arguments" people have made to defend the story. My favorites are probably "It's a fighting game, it doesn't have to have a good story" or something like "Imagine buying a fighting game for the story, insert insult or lol here" nonsense. Thesee kinds of people don't actually make arguments, just insults.
@KritoSkywaker
@KritoSkywaker 5 жыл бұрын
Jeggson Vohees Pfff... This is dumb. Because everyone would deserve better story concept. :)
@iamwhoyoucall2329
@iamwhoyoucall2329 5 жыл бұрын
I don't really care about the story, but there are so many characters that are just wasted
@jeggsonvohees2201
@jeggsonvohees2201 5 жыл бұрын
@@iamwhoyoucall2329 I'm confused. If you don't care about the story, then how are the characters wasted?
@iamwhoyoucall2329
@iamwhoyoucall2329 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeggsonvohees2201 For being not in the game
@ablackbunny3149
@ablackbunny3149 5 жыл бұрын
@@iamwhoyoucall2329 dlc buddy. They'll be here soon enough.
@KolomalakasPoutanas
@KolomalakasPoutanas 5 жыл бұрын
At first I thought the mk11 story was great and epic. Then I stopped and actually thought about it for a second and realized how bad , inconsistent and poorly written it actually is. So disappointing..
@snowdoll622
@snowdoll622 5 жыл бұрын
JustSomeGuy yeahhhhhhhhh.... I was so hype the entire time and then a few days later I was like wait this isn’t that good
@thatperson1022
@thatperson1022 5 жыл бұрын
I was immediately disappointed when one of the first sentences you hear in the story was "I have to kick your ass ma'm", it was like an instant regret
@harristhesecondcomin
@harristhesecondcomin 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely better than MKX story.
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 5 жыл бұрын
II2NONE MK9 and MKX’s story is way better than MK11 because MK11 is a giant cluster fuck in the MK11 Story Mode like what The4thSnake pointed out in his Mortal Kombat videos.
@samgreenblatt7074
@samgreenblatt7074 5 жыл бұрын
Well, it did end up fucking the lore so bad that there can't even be a story anymore unless we get into inter-dimensional shenanigans. But I did like that the story focused on the main MK characters and NOT the Kombat Kids(seriously, they're so boring), and that it redeemed Liu Kang and Kitana after two games in a row of their personalities being portrayed completely out-of-character. MK9 and X, for some bizarre reason, both portrayed living Liu as a scowling, short-tempered, judgmental asshole and living Kitana as a spoiled brat princess-stereotype. 11 finally restored humble, burdened Liu and shrewd diplomat Kitana.
@jeggsonvohees2201
@jeggsonvohees2201 5 жыл бұрын
When NR killed Mileena in MKX and made Kitana evil I honestly thought they were setting up a heroic Mileena in MK11. It was the perfect setup to flip the premises between those two. There was still at least 1 clone left in the pit that we see in MK9, so it would be possible. Instead we got a complete waste.
@iamwhoyoucall2329
@iamwhoyoucall2329 5 жыл бұрын
Even noob, ermac, shang tsung, shao kahn, cyrax, sektor, and many other characters are wasted.
@jeggsonvohees2201
@jeggsonvohees2201 5 жыл бұрын
@@iamwhoyoucall2329 I agree.
@natk4017
@natk4017 5 жыл бұрын
Would have been awesome to see evil Kitana and Mileena team up. That’s at least something instead of Kitana just being given Mileenas weapons even though she hates Mileena and likely wouldn’t want them AND have no skill in using them. It makes no sense.
@jeggsonvohees2201
@jeggsonvohees2201 5 жыл бұрын
@@natk4017 I agree, it's senseless.
@natk4017
@natk4017 5 жыл бұрын
Jeggson Vohees honestly the actually interesting females get shafted in the name of political correctness. Mileena was killed off just because she’s too sexual (she’s always had skimpy clothes compared to other females) but that’s literally her character, she’s a sexual being because imo she’s being sexually abused by Shao Kahn which would make a way better plot.
@AriGrande
@AriGrande 5 жыл бұрын
It would have been so much better for me if the characters that got brought back had their costumes from MK9. So many plot holes in Mortal Kombat's story. But when in doubt they can just reboot, lol.
@T-REX-KNIGHT
@T-REX-KNIGHT 5 жыл бұрын
Oh boy....be weird cassie seeing her mom's mk9 outfit xD
@AriGrande
@AriGrande 5 жыл бұрын
@@T-REX-KNIGHT yeah but you have to have continuity in a game like this.
@dante_02
@dante_02 5 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Mickley yes, yes it is. Plus, they can do as MKX did with tournament Sonya and Kitana and actually make the costumes good.
@dante_02
@dante_02 5 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Mickley it's not the only thing I complain about. Plus, why not avoid more of those painful to see recolours of the same costume 20 times and make just one single piece of different clothing.
@shawklan27
@shawklan27 5 жыл бұрын
@@T-REX-KNIGHT it would've been consistent with the timeline and actually add a moment to reflect how the series has a whole "matured" over the years with the added effect of being comedic.
@jonssogaming8255
@jonssogaming8255 5 жыл бұрын
I was really disappointed with the MK11 story mode. Your changes would have made the story mode much better.
@rasheedshields4716
@rasheedshields4716 5 жыл бұрын
Jonsso Gaming I know. I was so disappointed too, man. The story was okay. But, it was still disappointing. We deserve so much better than this. Here’s another problem i had with the story: No character development. Expect for some characters. Barely character development. Some characters are wasted and don’t give them nothing to do in the story. 6.6/10. 😩👎🏾👎🏾
@iamwhoyoucall2329
@iamwhoyoucall2329 5 жыл бұрын
@@rasheedshields4716 Heres my problem: it doesn't make sense
@iskoconquers
@iskoconquers 5 жыл бұрын
Here are other wasted potentials I request related to MK11 Smoke: Missing along with the other revenants. Enenra? Maybe have Noob Smoke team up as a nod to deception Stryker: Missing too. Granted not everyone liked him but I could see him be involved in Kabal's story especially involving the lie Kano told his past self. Hell him with the Special Forces vs the Black Dragon...
@TheNemesis432
@TheNemesis432 5 жыл бұрын
Smoke is mentioned by Noob in pre-fight dialogue. Only as a way to mock Sub-Zero and that's it. So yeah wasted. Kabal in MK11 is still the Black Dragon, so he didn't even meet with Stryker yet. There is no way in hell MK9 Kabal would've believed Kano. Past Stryker could probably convince Past Kabal to leave Black Dragon, but that's probably the only thing he could add. He's wasted, but once again there's not much they can do with Stryker.
@iskoconquers
@iskoconquers 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheNemesis432 guess you have a point on Stryker. Wanted one more chance for him in a new MK. Oh well at least the MK9 timeline/reboot redeemed him especially appearance. Others well...
@dxproductions7352
@dxproductions7352 5 жыл бұрын
Or Johnny Cage . One of the two fucking people that can defeat an eldergod and not have him and Cassie defeated by bulets to the limps
@John-Stark
@John-Stark 4 жыл бұрын
@@dxproductions7352 Didn't Cassie run face 1st into a Minigun?
@dxproductions7352
@dxproductions7352 4 жыл бұрын
@@John-Stark yeah but all of them hit her arm and then she cant walk . Which ... I mean it makes sense if she wasn't strong enough to take punches fro katana and company . Same goes for Johnny yet he was gone for the entire story because he was shot in the thigh . See what I mean
@jordangriff2341
@jordangriff2341 5 жыл бұрын
A younger Liu Kang trying to bring Dark Raiden back would be so good!! He says to Johnny he knows loss and he says Kang and Lao are like sons to him, it would be really awesome and deep in story to see Evil Raiden be conflicted and angry due to not being as ruthless as he feels he needs to be but at the same time he has the people he cares for most trying to help him - the potential is right there!!
@xkmuffinzx3915
@xkmuffinzx3915 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad they decided to scrap all of that in favor of a bland and brash "Hollywood-esque" type of story to appease the casual/general audience.
@ssjgotenks2009
@ssjgotenks2009 3 жыл бұрын
@@xkmuffinzx3915 no mk11 sto ruels at not sjw bull shit like mk10 styory ending
@caesar1700
@caesar1700 5 жыл бұрын
You should definitely do a Wasted Plotential on Kabal. He could have had a Kenshi-like role helping out the Special Forces as one of the good guys who were brought back from the past (with his experience with the Black Dragon helping Cassie out when Sonya and Johnny were taken away by Kano). They could have featured him have the change of heart that made him break away from Kano and the Black Dragon (because we've never actually seen that depicted in either timelines). He could have led a rebellious circle of Black Dragon members who defect to the good side for the final showdown as they are sick of Kano and Erron Black who don't realize what would happen if Kronika won, which would make the Black Dragon be more than just money grubbing thugs and seem like an actual clan/brotherhood. At the very least, they could have shown more Kano and Kabal interaction because we've never seen much of that in either timelines despite both of them being high ranking members of the Black Dragon. Evil Kabal in the NRS timeline is little more than another goon for Kano (basically made him into Jarek but cooler looking) which is sad considering evil Kabal in the old timeline basically singlehandedly revived the Black Dragon and feuded with the Red Dragon, with Kabal presumably winning by getting his revenge against Mavado by killing him and taking back his hookswords. The possibilities were endless... They simply HAD to make him yet another jobber huh?
@caesar1700
@caesar1700 5 жыл бұрын
Plus, since Scorpion is Mr. Goody Two-Shoes now and no longer the anti-hero we saw in MK9, Kabal could have been the next major anti-hero who'll work with the good guys depending on the situation (thereby making Kronika seem that much greater as a threat considering even bad guys are teaming up with the good guys to take her down), a lone voice of reason in the Black Dragon. Kabal has always been level-headed (the opposite to Kano who is comparatively deranged and will do anything that benefits him) and the whole point of him reforming and becoming a cop with Stryker in MK9 was to prove that he could think for himself and had a moral compass and that he wasn't just another henchman for the Black Dragon. He never really reformed in the old timeline; he happened to be among the chosen few whose souls were spared to fight against Shao Kahn (which is why he went back to being bad after MK3). But he did become good of his own accord in the new timeline and they completely wasted that character development for a game that already had too many villains.
@TheNemesis432
@TheNemesis432 5 жыл бұрын
@@caesar1700 Kabal reformed in the old timeline. It just happened after MK3 and instead of becoming cop he became a vigilante. It says so in his ending (where it also reveals what he's a Black Dragon because his bio says what he's just some mysterious warrior, who was almost killed by Outworld Extermination Squad). He went to being bad because Havik saved his life after Mavado almost killed him and stole his hookswords. Feeling indebted to Havik he let himself get convinced by him to restore Black Dragons and become it's new leader. He doublecrosses Havik in his Deception ending by killing him and stealing from him Onaga's heart (which gives it's holder power to resurrect the dead) thus cementing his descent to evil.
@dante_02
@dante_02 5 жыл бұрын
@@caesar1700 As far as I remember, Old Timeline Kabal didn't just went bad after MK3. He went into hiding and got caught by Mavado, and almost killed, weren't it for Havik's help. Then, the clerich of chaos revived Kabal's old desire for chaos (given how the Black Dragon used to be an anarchist organization) which makes him reform the Black Dragon under said desire. By the way, your idea is great!
@iskoconquers
@iskoconquers 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely need to involve Stryker there since they are partners in MK9. I could see Stryker cured of being a revenant and try to tell Past Kabal the real story and get to know more how Kabal became good
@dante_02
@dante_02 5 жыл бұрын
@@iskoconquers y e s
@pious83
@pious83 5 жыл бұрын
Shujinko might have been a more interesting replacement to the one dimensional Revenant Liu Kang. His entire backstory is time dependant and could have really worked well with Kronika.
@MegaAmir46
@MegaAmir46 5 жыл бұрын
Bingo! They dropped the ball on this games story big sadly
@mcgabrielrock
@mcgabrielrock 5 жыл бұрын
Mkx erron : i work for myself dont forget about that Mk11 erron : HOWDY PARTNER!! :D HOW YOU DOING?
@mudd7779
@mudd7779 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to lie I prefer mk11 erron over mkx
@Rekkenze
@Rekkenze 4 жыл бұрын
Ohh like time thing... imma just dump it.
@nev6086
@nev6086 4 жыл бұрын
Rekkenze *yeets the hourglass*
@kofola9145
@kofola9145 4 жыл бұрын
Work for myself is not the same as work alone, is it?
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity 5 жыл бұрын
Yes Revenants were my least favorite thing about MkX and Mk11s story.
@thedarklord2439
@thedarklord2439 5 жыл бұрын
@@jacobpohlabel4156 actually in mk11 vs mode it's revenant and the past fighter as default intros hence Kung lao say to scorpion " how do I defeat my revenant"
@sandrothenecromancer6810
@sandrothenecromancer6810 5 жыл бұрын
After Quan Chi death their personality should have slowly returned after all what made them act like that was his evil magic that brought the worst of them while their original souls couldn`t stop their bodies action, could also mean that Kitana, Liu Kang and Kung Lao didn`t abandon their Netherrealm rule because they liked their position and didn`t want anything to do with Raiden.
@MaximG.
@MaximG. 5 жыл бұрын
I would really love to see Mileena fighting alongside a good guys, a la Harley Quinn in Injustice 2! I mean, the only glimps of this possibility was in Kitana's arcade ending back in MK9, god dammit!
@jeggsonvohees2201
@jeggsonvohees2201 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see that too.
@eem2wavy133
@eem2wavy133 5 жыл бұрын
Why? Mk needs more villains not everyone needs to be a hero
@jeggsonvohees2201
@jeggsonvohees2201 5 жыл бұрын
@@eem2wavy133 It would be a nice and if written well interesting change foe the character. I'm not saying g she should magically become a saint, but an antihero turn could have potential. NR had the perfect setup with MKX, what with Kitana being evil by the end, and at least one Mileena clone still left. Seeing the dynamic change between the two had great potential.
@jeggsonvohees2201
@jeggsonvohees2201 5 жыл бұрын
@@eem2wavy133 Also, why do they need more villains? The series has never had a shortage this far.
@eem2wavy133
@eem2wavy133 5 жыл бұрын
Jeggson Vohees I meant mk needs more interesting villains. Really most of the villains in the mk 11 roster are not even interesting as characters mileena should stay as a villain bc she can act as the villain to kitana.
@Bert439
@Bert439 5 жыл бұрын
When your story is based on Time Travel it results in so many "what ifs?" look at Endgame
@digitalkid5623
@digitalkid5623 5 жыл бұрын
Fujin not being the new mentor to the heroes is imo the most wasted potential.
@metagross9092
@metagross9092 5 жыл бұрын
Along with being unplayable again
@iamwhoyoucall2329
@iamwhoyoucall2329 5 жыл бұрын
Along with noob getting revenge on scorpion And sub zero
@dilloon7626
@dilloon7626 5 жыл бұрын
Along with him getting killed by Cetrion and Frost
@nabilahmed579
@nabilahmed579 3 жыл бұрын
Along with him having his relationship with dark raiden not fleshed out
@aqualion2820
@aqualion2820 5 жыл бұрын
I wish geras a chapter in the story because in his tower ending he was kinda get tired of kronka restarting the timeline so maybe we could have played as geras betraying kronka and sideing with raiden i don't know it just seemed like good idea to me
@eem2wavy133
@eem2wavy133 5 жыл бұрын
jaden Martinez or just keep him as a villain and you can beat up the heros
@deagle.2
@deagle.2 5 жыл бұрын
For me, the story was lacklustre and really blew the lore after MKX.Putting aside the recast of certain characters and poor voice acting, I felt like the devs didn’t know exactly which character to focus on. Scorpion and sub zero, Cassie cage and Johnny cage, felt so important, yet at the same time they felt like mere side characters. I felt like right after a chapter of a character, that said character was just left in the dumps. There were too many, they didnt know who to focus on. The storyline did not pick up where it left off. Where was Takeda and Kung Jin, the main characters of the previous game, but no where to be found in 11, not even mentioned? And kenshi? Though in the krypt, there wasn’t a proper disclosure of his character, Ermac as well. Kitana uniting outworld and launching this huge army against Kronika, only to be reversed and to never be there in the first place? And didn’t Kotal Kahn pledge allegiance to Shinnok in MKX, after finding out Earthrealm was consumed? Kabal was a good guy as of MK9, was in the police force with Stryker. But when they merged, why was he still still part of the black dragon? What happened to Enenra, Reptile and yeah, Stryker? Sindel? The plot of this storyline was nothing compared to the brilliant MKX. The only thing saving it now is it’s multiplayer.
@jjam424
@jjam424 5 жыл бұрын
This version is significantly better than the real deal. Much more depth. I guess that what happens when a fan makes the story.
@cw1424
@cw1424 5 жыл бұрын
I know right? And people say fans can't write a interesting story. 😅😅😅
@man21057
@man21057 5 жыл бұрын
This video series just make me upset. My heart hurts because of the mistakes from NRS. I've never been a fighting game fan, but i started to dive deep into the lore around mk 9. I grew to really like mk, i even bought mk 11. Which is my first fighting game, but the retcons and continuity errors and that ending just really hurt to watch.
@jeggsonvohees2201
@jeggsonvohees2201 5 жыл бұрын
Oof, I'm sorry that had to be your first experience in the MK world.
@darthmisogyny3828
@darthmisogyny3828 5 жыл бұрын
Oh boy they've done this for years
@jaernihiltheus7817
@jaernihiltheus7817 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry... Maybe try playing MK4 -> Deadly Alliance -> Deception -> Armageddon on an emulator or something instead... They still retconned stuff but it was usually for the better, and it wasn't as egregious or as common as MK9-onwards. As in the 3d era would have about 3 or 4 retcons per game, instead of the nu timeline which has about 3 or 4 hundred per game.
@jeggsonvohees2201
@jeggsonvohees2201 5 жыл бұрын
@@jaernihiltheus7817 Plus they'll get to play Motor Kombat. I still can't believe they never made a spinoff series.
@lmhproductions8256
@lmhproductions8256 3 жыл бұрын
I miss when sindel wasn't in the game.
@musicalknight4900
@musicalknight4900 5 жыл бұрын
We need a wasted plotential for Kano, Kotal Khan, Shao Khan, Sektor, and Baraka. God damn it give Baraka a win. Edit: Good vid btw, I really agree with the Takeda section.
@darthmisogyny3828
@darthmisogyny3828 5 жыл бұрын
Nah baraka didnt need a win. He actually had some decent character development...for the first time in how long?
@musicalknight4900
@musicalknight4900 5 жыл бұрын
@@darthmisogyny3828 Thats fair.. but its hard to be threatening when every single fight he loses. Its not fun to watch something already know who is going to win, theres no anticipation.
@fearz-4367
@fearz-4367 5 жыл бұрын
@@musicalknight4900 Kano definitely got it the worse.
@musicalknight4900
@musicalknight4900 5 жыл бұрын
@@fearz-4367 Oh yeah for sure. How do TWO kano's lose to one sonya??
@mudd7779
@mudd7779 4 жыл бұрын
The first thing raiden says was king Lao just defeated shang tsung and Quan chi moments ago so why weren't they pulled to the future
@magikplissken3158
@magikplissken3158 5 жыл бұрын
So far im excited for the Lin Kuei saga and Erron Black's own wasted potential, Black has began growing on me as a character, can't wait to see it
@itsmeveronica8548
@itsmeveronica8548 5 жыл бұрын
yeah i actually kinda like Erron Black being an ex-black dragon.
@magikplissken3158
@magikplissken3158 5 жыл бұрын
@@itsmeveronica8548 I do also enjoy his dialogue about his troubled parents, and being an ex black dragon makes his arc to becoming a advisor and right hand man to Kotal much more intresting
@metagross9092
@metagross9092 5 жыл бұрын
@@magikplissken3158 Have to wonder what caused him to leave in the first place aside from him just not seeing them as worth fighting for anymore
@magikplissken3158
@magikplissken3158 5 жыл бұрын
@@metagross9092 probably something Kano did, or he felt as there was a moment where it was too far, so he betrayed them and possibly why he became one of Kotal's right hand men was to gain an advantage against the dying black dragon clan, overtime he probably came to realize how reckless he was as a member of the black dragon, who knows maybe he could've helped revenent Kabal and they would've formed a better black dragon along with Kira and Kobra. There's loads of possibilities on what caused his defection and what can be built off from it
@ivaneurope
@ivaneurope 5 жыл бұрын
@@metagross9092 Speaking of Erron Black, maybe the writers could've made his past self planning to usurp Kano (and maybe Jarek) to become the new Black Dragon leader. But Kano saw it comming and kicked him out before the plan was executed which prompts Black to go on a revenge path. In MKX pre-fight dialouge Black stated that he could barely stand any of them and also have killed one of their members. Also Black being retconed in pre-fight dialouges as Shao Kahn's lackey (like D'Vorah) was stupid.
@elkinwolf
@elkinwolf 5 жыл бұрын
I think God Fire Liu Kang was actually great
@simpleclonetrooper2740
@simpleclonetrooper2740 5 жыл бұрын
Liu finally got what he deserved
@gjtrue
@gjtrue 5 жыл бұрын
Hes is. I don't care what anyone says! 😎
@moonknight778
@moonknight778 4 жыл бұрын
Best moment of the story IMO
@tysonsilvers4903
@tysonsilvers4903 4 жыл бұрын
I love the idea but at the same time I can't help but get a dbz potara earring vibe
@user-in1gv1uh2v
@user-in1gv1uh2v 4 жыл бұрын
@@tysonsilvers4903 The fusion dance might be more accurate.
@MonkeyDBuild
@MonkeyDBuild 5 жыл бұрын
MK11 story looked ambitious and really interesting. But once I played it, it was a pretty let down. Not to mention the Scorpion thing :/
@Birdhouseart
@Birdhouseart 4 жыл бұрын
6 months later, Sindel drops, wasted.
@runestamp
@runestamp 4 жыл бұрын
me, looking at the horrendous changes they've done to sindel's character: *look how they massacred my girl!*
@wwemusicfanC
@wwemusicfanC 5 жыл бұрын
The fact that mk 11 went with a time travel plot instead of following up on what mk9 and mk10 built up shows they've run out ideas for the story.
@princeivy7065
@princeivy7065 5 жыл бұрын
Next Mk should have Onaga or Dark Raiden,even though having dark raiden is obviously impossible
@xXSilentAgent47Xx
@xXSilentAgent47Xx 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, present Erron Black fought against himself in arena seen in background, wtf happened to him? Nothing we know about him, he appears only in cutscene with no dialogues and future himself appears being busy with fighting whoever pays him more.
@mrawful4940
@mrawful4940 4 жыл бұрын
xXSilentAgent47Xx WHY DO I SEE U EVERYWHERE
@gjtrue
@gjtrue 5 жыл бұрын
I actually like the fact Shao Kahn actually genuinely cared for Mileena. Particularly *because* it's out of character! 🤣 And I certainly agree Dark Raiden was wasted. I wish Noob Saibot, Erron Black, Kabal, and all the remaining revenants had more development. You mentioned a lot of great ideas. 😎 Others I feel are wasted/missed opportunities are particularly kombatants not present and/or playable: *Takeda* & *Kung Jin* as you described. *Kai* (being a fellow Shaolin Monk & close friend of Liu Kang, he could help get through to his corrupted brothers) *Hotaru* & *Havik* (being the embodiments of Order and Chaos, you'd think they and their respective realms would play a major role due to Kronika threat of balance and whatnot...) *Fujin* (he should have had his own chapter of him trying to stop/save Dark Raiden) *Taven* (Takeda's & Kenshi's MKX endings seemed to tease he may return. And what other purpose in this current/2nd timeline could he be sealed away for? Something even more dangerous than Kronika? Or is Armageddon simply inevitable...?) *Jarek* (instead of Ermac falling to his death in the Krypt, it should have been Jax knocking him off in reference to his infamous MK4 ending. IMSOGAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!) 😂🤣
@princeivy7065
@princeivy7065 5 жыл бұрын
Skarlet was wasted too
@natk4017
@natk4017 5 жыл бұрын
So was Mileena. “This one” shouldn’t be killing off all of the characters with actually depth. Imagine if Mileena hadn’t been killed and she had teamed with revenant Kitana and Lui Kang and her and kitana would have been on the same side against earth. Kitana and Mileena would have been so cool to see fighting together instead of Kitana just taking her sais.
@nabilahmed579
@nabilahmed579 3 жыл бұрын
Havik and hotaru have been teased in Aftermath’s Shang Tsung’s ending so there might be a chance for them coming back which I hope so since they have potential to become major villians and having their realms expanded upon.
@Zr-lo5bo
@Zr-lo5bo 5 жыл бұрын
You know what I'm not gonna say it but good shit always make my night when you upload btw it's 3am
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 3 жыл бұрын
2:00 So I got thinking about your Mileena suggestion, and I think I've got one more thing that would *really* improve it *and* fix the "Kitana kills Shao Khan in a straight up fight" problem. Going with your "Mileena joins Kitana's forces to liberate outworld" direction, Kitana infiltrates the arena in secret while Mileena leads Kitana's army disguised as her in order to draw the Khan out. Mileena will fight Khan and lose, *badly* but before Khan can finish her off Kitana will catch the distracted Khan off guard and kill him with a sneak attack. Mileena *could* die from her injuries here, having the opportunity to say a few parting words to Kitana before she goes, but this depends on if you want to keep her in the story or not. Personally I think it would be a better end for her character than *anything Netherrealm has given us*. This gives us a satisfying inversion of Mileena's original purpose: to be a perfect body double of Kitana and be a puppet of Shao Khan... along with what I think would be the best possible way to give Mileena a meaningful death. Bonus points if the mask falls off just as Khan is about to finish her, the shocked realization on his face as Kitana decapitates him from behind.
@jasonv6045
@jasonv6045 4 жыл бұрын
I’m from the future. And mk11 sindel will be the worse thing to ever happen to her character!
@gato6373
@gato6373 5 жыл бұрын
I am still so salty about the treatment of the 3D era all being put aways as cameos and not even helpful or signigicant cameos, no just thing like Hsu-Hao being dead on Erron's Intro and Sarrena appearring in an ending that's it. The only one that gets any attention is Frost and she only exists to fail and be mocked and pitied by everyone.
@viniciusraraujo
@viniciusraraujo 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I love the 3d era a lot,it was in those games that I became a huge fan of MK,and seeing Netherrealm studios treatment to it is a huge let down. So far in 3 games only 6 kharakters came back from the 3d era as playable, and instead of bringing more of them and reworking them into good characters they just create new ones who just do the same thing. I see no reasom for someone like Erron Black to be made into Black Dragon when we have 5 others members who have yet to make a comeback to the series in some form,or instead have Tremor who could totally have been replaced Erron Black in all his stories appearences... This not to mention how frost was a complitely waste of a character,in the end of the storry she was just there to control the robots,if you replaced her in the story for Sektor(and have him not blow up in SF headquartes for no reason) nothing would have lost. She deserverd more,all 3d era deserve more than that.
@gato6373
@gato6373 5 жыл бұрын
@@viniciusraraujo I think what makes this so bad is that this is a reboot, this was their chance to fix the issues these characters had when they were created. To make them better more interesting , more well developed. And what do they do instead ? "Hey wouldn't it be cool if we killed them in the comics and made them into jokes in the games ?"
@viniciusraraujo
@viniciusraraujo 5 жыл бұрын
@@gato6373 and even with this chance,netherrealm studios made clear that they hate the 3d era and try to forget it ever existed. Kharacters from that time become nothing more than jokes,other just to be random quotes in intros,and other who should clearly be involved are left to be forgotten in the mortal kombat history.
@eem2wavy133
@eem2wavy133 5 жыл бұрын
viniciusraraujo people like erron black more than tremor
@viniciusraraujo
@viniciusraraujo 5 жыл бұрын
@@eem2wavy133 I know that,and thats why he shouldn't be just a Black dragon Grunt,he should have gotten his own chapter. Right now in the story, present time Erron Black doesn't even has a single dialogue,he shows up a background kharacter.
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 5 жыл бұрын
I think that there is actually better solution to all this: how about NO time "travel" bullshit, no "past and present" characters, and NRS actually wrote a competent story of a hero (Raiden) descending into madness, unleashing his anger on Outworld and Kotal Kahn, other heroes being split over whether Raiden is right in his actions or not, which could lead to heroes VS heroes fight (like Civil War), while also showing that Liu Kang is the only one who even stands a chance against Dark Raiden and have him defeat his former mentor. Of course, new characters can all stay, although i think that Cetrion would make better main antagonist than Kronika (can't stand her). Have Cetrion be the one to inspire Dark Raiden in his actions, because she needs another dark powerful being to be balance to her light (like Shinnok was). Of course, I'm not saying that my story is spectacular, but i would just, for once, want to see heroes in actual peril, to be afraid for their lives, instead of just watching them walk from one opponent to another, while also making terrible jokes that even MCU writers would be embarrassed off. Just for once try, NRS. I gave MKX's story a pass because they wanted to introduce new generation, but then i would want to see them be a big part in new storyline. But no, let's just keep rebooting over and over again and go back to old characters who were milked up to the point that they serve no purpose in the story. Franchise needs to move on, if it wants to survive.
@iskoconquers
@iskoconquers 5 жыл бұрын
I would want, one more chances/one more shot with the old, Revenant cast of MK3 before passing the torch to the new blood. Stryker, and Kabal story can give more background on the Black dragon (even how Kabal quit and became a cop), and they along with the New Gen Special forces can end them. (Can we get a new enemy faction please if your gonna make a new generation of characters.) Smoke would be partnered with Noob just like in Deception and Sub Zero and Scorps will free him and kill Bi han, maybe throw Nightwolf there. Sindel, definitely should play huge parts for the Outworld, Edenia conflicts especially involving Kitana.
@nabilahmed579
@nabilahmed579 3 жыл бұрын
That idea would’ve been so much cooler. And u don’t even need liu kang, u can make fujin the main protagonist and have some sort of feeling for his partner who has been working alongside with for many years, eventually learning the fact that there is no hope in restoring raiden and him taking up as a proper protector of earthrealm
@simonsnowden654
@simonsnowden654 5 жыл бұрын
Kabal and Sonyas voice actors were wasted potential. That potential being the potential to get different voice actors.
@TheNadroj10
@TheNadroj10 4 жыл бұрын
Damn lol
@DUflo100
@DUflo100 3 жыл бұрын
actually i think kabal's okay considering that hes a bad guy in this game but ronda's voice is awful, sonya deserved better
@just1randomguy658
@just1randomguy658 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is the most obvious one but...imma be honest, I was hype for Dark Raiden, seeing a new, darker, more aggressive take on him. Then my mans just vanishes in like the first 20 to 30 minutes in the story and only comes back for like a split second when he fights Liu Kang. Like. Why. Why bro. I suppose I can kinda understand the plot point of there not being able to be multiple Raiden's a tiny bit, but like, you can't just keep Dark Raiden? I feel like the story would've been far more interesting if Dark Raiden stayed.
@thekidwhodoesnothing7512
@thekidwhodoesnothing7512 5 жыл бұрын
When some guy on KZbinr can make a better storyline in a couple of minutes while a whole studio who made a great story line before now has wasted potential in characters,plots and development
@nickthamayne627
@nickthamayne627 3 жыл бұрын
And the studio gets years off development
@DUflo100
@DUflo100 3 жыл бұрын
the midway writers are not the same writers in NRS
@FOREEAL
@FOREEAL 5 жыл бұрын
NRS for the love of consistency, hire this man!
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 5 жыл бұрын
For Real!? I’m actually going to start making a change.org petition for him to be the main storyboard director because he’s a much better writer than the people at WB Studios/Netherrealm Studios.
@kristopherhayes486
@kristopherhayes486 2 жыл бұрын
Ermac, reptile, and ferra/torr were playing poker.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Raiden should have been the main villain of 11 having gone crazy and thinking that the only way to protect Earthrealm is to destroy all the other realms and people from Earthrealm, Outworld and the Netherealm gather together to stop him with the Earthrealmers trying to talk sense into their former mentor and Liu Kang and Kitana bringing in their Netherealm forces after Raiden threatened them at the end of X.
@the_last_edenian5915
@the_last_edenian5915 5 жыл бұрын
No one was wasted as bad as rain tho 🤷.. just a pinkish purple dead guy in the krypt
@yahtoray3
@yahtoray3 5 жыл бұрын
trae tha god he's still fighting Blaze. He's not dead.
@Saladfork1929
@Saladfork1929 5 жыл бұрын
Smoke. They were literally in the cyberizing room and from what i way one of the interactable cores on the far right seemed like somthing smoke would have. You can even use it and literally uses a smokey from of teleportation (like in Triborg) to send your opponent into the air. Like wtf why not just implement smoke, hell why are Cyrax and Sektor not playable as well. I mean you fight both and Cyrax literally regains conciousness why not add him to the roster. You fight Sektor too so why not add him. And components of smoke are literally in the map. Missed opportunity.
@princeivy7065
@princeivy7065 5 жыл бұрын
@@Saladfork1929 Exactly
@Saladfork1929
@Saladfork1929 5 жыл бұрын
@@princeivy7065 smh they couldve given him better.
@princeivy7065
@princeivy7065 5 жыл бұрын
@@Saladfork1929 I agree Mkx did him better because he was actually in the story at least. He better be a DLC
@omark.spartan3504
@omark.spartan3504 5 жыл бұрын
It’s so cinematically good that I thought it was a great story but the ending shattered that illusion. “Yeah let’s just make it to where NOTHING that happened in either timeline matters, making the ENTIRE FRANCHISE pointless. One thing I did like is showing lui kang and raiden fighting throughout the timelines but the conflict between them lasted one fight and a single cutscene and didn’t get the chance to become a bigger problem and instead was instantly solved. Going on another tangent because I just realized it. If chronica has the power to mentally manipulate a fucking god, why doesn’t she just do it to the rest and prevent any opposition?
@gerrymcwilliam
@gerrymcwilliam 5 жыл бұрын
Why was Kung Lao really jealous though? He won tournament. Plus his ending in ladder. Whys he an evil Raphel 😂😂😂
@darthmisogyny3828
@darthmisogyny3828 5 жыл бұрын
Because he's named after the great kung Lao and believed he should be the chosen one. They've ruined Kung Laos character since shaolin monks
@ryanm.8720
@ryanm.8720 4 жыл бұрын
Despite all of his achievements, he still sees Liu Kang as superior to him. Few take Kung Lao seriously as oppose to Liu Kang (I wouldn't take anyone seriously if they kept on boasting that they're the greatest Shaolin, though I'd take them more seriously than Frost), and in one Intro Dialog with Kitana, he shows envy towards her affection to Liu Kang, saying Liu Kang's lucky he met Kitana first. Also, while Liu Kang is a hard worker, Kung Lao is lazy. He was also like this in Shaolin Monks.
@naveedhussain4127
@naveedhussain4127 5 жыл бұрын
Just going leave my rant why did they have waste noob all they had to do is make him become champion of the elder gods and then be restores then he could of recconciled with scorpion or his brother
@boyoboyo2272
@boyoboyo2272 5 жыл бұрын
It's a bit more complicated to make Noob an Elder God champion. Scorpion was a vengeful specter, but he wasn't evil per se. Noob Saibot relishes the dark nature and is more intrinsically evil. The Elder Gods may not care about that as long as he gets the job done, but it'd be much riskier to trust the fate of the world to Noob's motivations. I mean, that's just conjecture, tho; huff and puff out of me for why he wouldn't be the best pick
@naveedhussain4127
@naveedhussain4127 5 жыл бұрын
@@boyoboyo2272 you make a good point on noob dark nature i did not consider that
@danb1809
@danb1809 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite character in Mortal Kombat is Reptile. But with the new timeline the character more or less doesn’t exist in the story. I wouldn’t have a problem with he was the exception, but many other characters and plot lines are not handled well, completely inconsequential, or discarded, like the Revenants, Ermac, Dark Raiden respectively.
@freezyreef
@freezyreef 5 жыл бұрын
Yo, I didn't think a wasted potential of this game would come this soon.
@BovineIntervention
@BovineIntervention 5 жыл бұрын
People forget this is a competitive fighting game and not an anime
@freezyreef
@freezyreef 5 жыл бұрын
@@BovineIntervention NRS's fault for making a very interesting lore for their fighting game francise, even having full Adventure modes and now story modes. We are allowed to critique a story mode in a game. We are not expecting a Oscar worthy movie. Just a consistent story.
@BovineIntervention
@BovineIntervention 5 жыл бұрын
@@freezyreef Critique would be pointing out plot holes not crying about how you wish everything was which is basically asking for a movie no one cares about. It's not an anime and not everything has time to be fleshed out like you kids want
@caesar1700
@caesar1700 5 жыл бұрын
@@BovineIntervention NRS has had more than enough time to develop a great story. The developers have stated in an interview before that the story team for each game gets a headstart of around 8 months or so before the official development even begins (so MK11's story was being developed during Injustice 2's production) in addition to the time available once development for the rest of the game commences. Considering that there's a whole team behind and not just one guy behind the entire story and the fact that an amateur writer like The4thSnake (though I can't be sure about him being an amateur since I don't know if he's a professional writer) can develop a better story in much less time and NRS's now famous crunch culture (which could explain why it's a mess since they might have been rushed into finishing the story up), they screwed up. I'm talking only about the actual story and the sequence of events that take place, not the entire story *mode*, cinematography etc since that takes quite a while to develop which most of us don't have much of a problem with.
@freezyreef
@freezyreef 5 жыл бұрын
@@BovineIntervention You didn't even read his very detailed comment. Then you say no one cares about story in fighing games (which is not true at all as MK is known for it's lore and characters). Then you stoop so low that you call him a faggot. You're a troll
@kjcaramel4547
@kjcaramel4547 4 жыл бұрын
I hate the fact that they have to keep shoving D'Vorah down our throats. She's killed fan favorites who have been playable since day 1. The sheer fact that she killed Baraka was enough to get people to hate her. Now she gets to kill Mileena, *and* Scorpion. They try to play her off as this badass who thinks no one can hurt her, too. When she meets with Shao Kahn, she happily informs him that she killed his own daughter, just to mock him. When Shao Kahn retaliates, she gets into a fighting stance as if she's going to single-handedly beat the Conqueror of Realms, himself. She probably would've, too! Just because NRS wants us to fall in love with this next gen character by having her kill off old characters.
@turtlemcgee4735
@turtlemcgee4735 5 жыл бұрын
yo the krypt isnt canon my guy. thats not ermacs actual death
@pious83
@pious83 5 жыл бұрын
If they are not included in anyway other than a Krypt death, it doesn't matter whether that is "canon" or not. Because that is their only representation.
@Hawkingbird1
@Hawkingbird1 5 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't matter if it was canon. Everything got reset anyway
@Uber_scorpion
@Uber_scorpion 5 жыл бұрын
His point is that his model is in the game so they could use it in the story.
@Haydn3560
@Haydn3560 5 жыл бұрын
@@Uber_scorpion mark my words he will be dlc, typical Nrs putting npc characters into the game to later add them as dlc
@turtlemcgee4735
@turtlemcgee4735 5 жыл бұрын
@@Uber_scorpion one of them. he also made the point that his death was anticlimactic.
@k3lvinbr
@k3lvinbr 5 жыл бұрын
i liked the story, by the simple fact that they can not ruin anything anymore because the older games dont exist.
@nekoluxuria7721
@nekoluxuria7721 3 жыл бұрын
will say I find it humorous that they rebooted in the 3rd title of the game. so they rebooted a reboot before anything from said reboot properly finished.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. 2 games after the reboot they rebooted again making it all pointless.
@ZRossi513
@ZRossi513 5 жыл бұрын
I will always be an MK fan but I did feel like the story fell flat. I would’ve liked to see Dark Raiden as the main antagonist and the revenants Liu Kang and Kitana in a more vulnerable position, especially after the events of MK X. Think about it, Dark Raiden is on a rampage and the revenant forces strike a deal with Earthrealm and the Elder Gods as sort of a “last resort.” This would have added some great tension and would have really followed the new story line. Imagine the MK 11 plot involving Raiden, who has been trying to prevent Armageddon, ultimately designing his own downfall and becoming the one thing he swore to defend Earthrealm against. It would have been a great conclusion to his new character arc, and would have created a way more intense story.
@qui-gonjinnfromlegostarwar5487
@qui-gonjinnfromlegostarwar5487 4 жыл бұрын
Even with the current Sindel plot, still wasted. Or not wasted, just simply horrible.
@VIE5x
@VIE5x 5 жыл бұрын
Mileena has so much potential
@T2G-DJT
@T2G-DJT 5 жыл бұрын
*OwO don’t be so silly D’VOrAh MuRdErEd JaReD*
@undead923
@undead923 5 жыл бұрын
The only person I want her to kill is Jarek. Mainly due to the death scream.
@ryanm.8720
@ryanm.8720 4 жыл бұрын
*Sindel:* Are you sure about that, peasant?
@CarCorSnoAllen
@CarCorSnoAllen 5 жыл бұрын
I’m still wondering how you came up with those Raiden/Liu Kang names in the “A line through time” video
@boyoboyo2272
@boyoboyo2272 5 жыл бұрын
They were so complicated and convoluted. Why didn't he just keep them all simple? He really went all out. Must have busted his brain by the end of it 🙃
@nandabravo3302
@nandabravo3302 4 жыл бұрын
They did em all dirty...
@AndrewCARNBORN
@AndrewCARNBORN 5 жыл бұрын
Noob Saibot Wasted Potential please!
@trentstevenson5495
@trentstevenson5495 3 жыл бұрын
The4thSnake. I completely understand your grievances. I share most of them about this game. 😠😭😭😭 NRS has ruined mortal Kombat with its agendas. Kitana would never have killed Shao Kahn in the 90s. Least of all by herself. You are idea that she would do it with the eight of her mother is much more possible. I like Revenant Liu Kang. No offense. I loved the original voice actor for Liu Kang. But the new one does sound better. I think dark Raiden is better than mortal Kombat trilogy Raiden. I love the horns on his hat. 😁 What NRS did to Sindel is incompetent and unforgivable. I would much rather have seen the dragon King as the boss of this game then Kronika.😠 Feminism really got its way in this installment. 😠
@AmethystReaver
@AmethystReaver 5 жыл бұрын
why is dvora stilla thing? of all the characters introduced in mk 10 she was the only one i did not want to see ever again
@DUflo100
@DUflo100 3 жыл бұрын
NRS has a awful favoritism with her
@littlemisshivemind9721
@littlemisshivemind9721 3 жыл бұрын
How does Ermac fall to death?! HE CAN FLY!
@vahlok1426
@vahlok1426 3 жыл бұрын
Your presented character progression for Mileena to me is the lynchpin that makes this so good. To me no other character has been done as dirty than Mileena. She could have been so much more than "Rawr evil lady" and then "DED."
@cwing1028
@cwing1028 5 жыл бұрын
The Raiden merging with himself idea is great! Wish they would have done that instead.
@julzbananz
@julzbananz 5 жыл бұрын
Kronica could've helped dark raiden. think about it: raiden has been extremely guilt-ridden about everyone who died in mk9 for more than 20 years now. Kronika didn't have to erase him from existence, but instead just have him help her change the timeline to prevent the heroes from becoming revenants.
@iskoconquers
@iskoconquers 5 жыл бұрын
Would need to fight Liu Kang as it was destined
@julzbananz
@julzbananz 5 жыл бұрын
iskoconquers tag team battle Dark Raiden/Revenant Liu Kang vs MK2 Raiden/Liu Kang or Fire God Liu Kang
@undead923
@undead923 5 жыл бұрын
Wanna know what would have been a funny twist? If the dumbass NRS Shao Kahn was actually Moloch disguised by sorcery or something, which explains the poor desicions NRS Kahn made every time. And even helps the "good" Shao Kahn's reputation (And yay. Sareena analysis. Possibly the most underused character aside from Fujin or Kai)
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 5 жыл бұрын
Or Reiko posing as Kahn.
@goodestpupper9311
@goodestpupper9311 3 жыл бұрын
I have some ideas about how the mk11 story and it’s characters could have gone and i am open to criticism I just had some ideas Kung Jin: have his storyline be about restoring the revenants with shujinko and later restore kabal and night wolf setting up their stories as well, I feel like this was hinted at with Jin’s ending in mkx Kabal: have him change the black dragon into a better clan with the help of the special forces and have him kill Kano. Bi Han: have him be the champion of the elder gods like scorpion. Baraka: have him kill bug lady after she says she killed mileena Sub zero: have him actually show the love that he apparently has had for bi Han since mk9
@goodestpupper9311
@goodestpupper9311 3 жыл бұрын
Also have Shao khan not be an idiot
@goodestpupper9311
@goodestpupper9311 3 жыл бұрын
Also kenshi and takada’s fight against the red dragon that was teased in mkx should have been in the game as well
@irispaiva
@irispaiva 5 жыл бұрын
A big problem is Kronika's power level, instead of a Titan, she should be an Elder Goddess, because if she is truly this powerful, why did she allow Raiden to do his shit? Why allow things to get to such a point where time travel would be needed, instead of she isn't all powerful, she can restore Shinnok to aid her, plus the other EG can summon the heroes from other timelines, explaining why they are there instead of Kronika just stupidly allowing that to happen.
@ObitoUchiha38200
@ObitoUchiha38200 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see Mileena,Kitana,and Jade being a trio instead of Mileena and Kitana hating each other
@HolyknightVader999
@HolyknightVader999 4 жыл бұрын
Dark Raiden. He should have been the villain. He takes out the Netherrealm army, defeats Kitana and Liu Kang, and takes over the Netherrealm, so that he can use its armies to "protect Earthrealm." Shinnok's amulet corrupts him completely, and the Earthrealmers realize he's gone down the Dark Side. Raiden begins to think that to protect something, one must be in charge of it to keep everyone in line, especially when Earthrealmers like Erron Black, Shang Tsung, the Black Dragon, and the Cyber Lin Kuei have acted against Earthrealm's interests before. When Raiden tries to get the humans to swear allegiance to him as the new emperor of Earthrealm, the Special Forces refuse, but before Dark Raiden can strike them down, Kronika and Cetrion appear and save the Special Forces and get them out of the Netherrealm, appearing as angelic-style beings to save them from a hellish fate in Raiden's hands. Kronika recruits them to fight against Dark Raiden, and bolsters their forces by getting Light Raiden and past fighters to fight against Dark Raiden's revenants, but Kronika and her daughter have a secret agenda of their own-to rewrite time so as to reverse Shinnok's defeat, because they see Shinnok being usurped by Raiden as an abomination, and Kronika/Cetrion have their own secret grudge against the Cage family, since to them, no mortal should ever strike down an Elder God. Kronika and Cetrion plan to send the Cages to their deaths against Dark Raiden's forces so as to hit two birds with one stone. Enemies in front of you, and enemies behind you-that would make for a great storyline with much potential. Instead, Dark Raiden disappears, and Kronika wages war like an idiot. What a joke.
@tristanchriesmon1056
@tristanchriesmon1056 5 жыл бұрын
Man just how kotal Kahn was wasted in mk11 also he gets beat by d'vorah who he is way stronger than and also how did he lose to jade also ....dony get me wrong jade is a great a character but they didnt have to do kotal like that
@DrakeVagabond
@DrakeVagabond 5 жыл бұрын
They honestly should drop the story modes any expanding on the arcade. the intro dialogue is way more entertaining anyway
@gloomykasumi8580
@gloomykasumi8580 5 жыл бұрын
I just want that 2 hour long critique video already. Fuckkkkk
@JordanPorter11207
@JordanPorter11207 4 жыл бұрын
Ya know, when fans can do better than "professional writers" there is a huge fucking problem. This would be the story to MK11 I would have liked, rather than their stupid, contrived, and open ended bullshit, which they tried to end somewhat like Armageddon, but Armageddon felt like there was actually more at stake, since the writing was better and the writers didn't treat its fans like petulant children. It's like how I hate Sakura Haruno from Naruto, but upon reading fanfiction, I actually like her from a fans perspective rather than from a professionals perspective. I know that Kishimoto doesn't know how to female characters, but it still counts.
@thegoose8663
@thegoose8663 3 жыл бұрын
"Gameplay is quite good"... well... I would call it Wasted Playtential :D
@MegaJetty1
@MegaJetty1 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, there is a LOT of wasted potential. Is Ed Boon involved in the writing process or is he just the boss and he leaves the writing to lesser people? Not to bash the guy but I would think even he would be disappointed with how this franchise is currently being handled. MK9 is still the best in my opinion and has yet to be topped. #SaveMortalKombat!
@sandrothenecromancer6810
@sandrothenecromancer6810 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently he doesn't care about the story mode.
@MegaJetty1
@MegaJetty1 5 жыл бұрын
Then why start putting more emphasis on it?
@dilloon7626
@dilloon7626 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t even know he is because there’s no way he would allow present Scorpion (Hanzo Hasashi) to die since that’s his boy even though he was replaced by past Scorpion but still
@leisurelyindex
@leisurelyindex 5 жыл бұрын
And yesterday, I was wondering when you were going to continue these. And you delivered!
@PUREtrollin
@PUREtrollin 3 жыл бұрын
They fucked over NOOB SAIBOT- BIHAN the most out of anyone in this game, he's one of the OG characters.
@seanfroelich4528
@seanfroelich4528 4 жыл бұрын
The Kronika boss fight felt fresh, in the sense of I was tired of fighting tall-fire monsters. But the exclusion of a sub-boss monster was missing. And I think more could've been done to make Kronika feel like a "big-bad"
@ablackbunny3149
@ablackbunny3149 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like companies should start hiring video game story testors. Lately triple a games with single player campaigns have been falling short of audience expectation. I feel like games could benefit from people inputing their opinions on the story.
@gamingoutlaws9765
@gamingoutlaws9765 Жыл бұрын
Jade storyline was the most frustrating part of this whole series to me from 9 to 10 you see something interesting happening she will have a big role everything 9 and 10 was waged and ignore jade had nothing and it was acted like nothing happened when clearly something did.
@SnipingIsFun
@SnipingIsFun 5 жыл бұрын
The lack of Takeda and Kung Jin was honestly really horrible.
@iskoconquers
@iskoconquers 5 жыл бұрын
Takeda was godly, Kung Jin was acceptable, yet why Jacqui..
@SnipingIsFun
@SnipingIsFun 5 жыл бұрын
@@iskoconquers Well to be fair they improved Jacqui with the build up on the relationship with her father. They needed all 4 of them.
@eem2wavy133
@eem2wavy133 5 жыл бұрын
SnipingIsFun and who would you replace for takeda and Kung Jin?
@JohnSydney225
@JohnSydney225 5 жыл бұрын
So much wasted potentials, I will never leave this channel
@rumours6435
@rumours6435 5 жыл бұрын
the only thing i really hated was the ending tbh but i do agree with you on most things, great vid man!
@Timquan.
@Timquan. 5 жыл бұрын
Im convinced NRS is scared to advance the MK story. At every turn they sabotage any possibility of advancing this alternate timeline story. New Characters where handled mostly poorly and the only 2 actually capable of carrying the MK franchise on their back got screwed, Takeda wasnt in the game and Kotal got crippled and handed Outworld over to Kitana on a silver platter. This entire Kronika premise should have been saved for at least another game or two after dealing with a new Deadly Alliance and Onaga's return, the whole time tho putting over new characters this way they could have introduced the titans and have a mostly fresh cast ready to face the new threat or at that point then hit the reset button.
@Mister_Dollz
@Mister_Dollz 4 жыл бұрын
It would've been so awesome to see a match between past Kitana and present Revenant Kitana, with the present going to kill her past, but past Mileena steps in and kills the Revenant. This will then allow the newly Kitana Kahn see that her sister is a respectable person who saved her from death. So she asks Mileena to be her personal bodyguard, this in turn allows Mileena a better story by keeping Kitana safe but still being a strong fighter
@Saladfork1929
@Saladfork1929 5 жыл бұрын
I REALLY want Smoke back. Hes so cool to fight as.
@mrawful4940
@mrawful4940 4 жыл бұрын
Jordy Alcasas rain is better
@dbyspae122
@dbyspae122 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrawful4940 both are super fun
@Garviel-Loken
@Garviel-Loken 3 жыл бұрын
*****WARNING:VAUGLEY RELATED RANT!***** I never got how the larger scale battles never use the characters to their strengths. Why is it always just "CHARGE" and hope for the best? The special forces, the armies of outworld, lin Kuei, Shirai Ryu, the black dragons and red dragons don't use tactics, equipment or the specialists at their disposal. Seriously, the special forces posses, among other things, drones, guns, energy weapons, weaponozed limb technology, bombs and body armour. Not every opponent can teleport or run at sonic speed! If just one of these forces got it together they'd wipe the floor with the opposing side. Are Tarkatans bulletproof? Is Shao Khan? Does only Sonya have a drone? Why do the ninja clans attack directly and not use any form of tactic? Couldn't Erron Black just snipe a load of people? Etc...... I know it's a fighting game and therefore the almighty melee rules but I always found it ridiculous that even in major confrontations, for all the individual side plans, neither side tries anything other than CHARGE! Interesting side note: Tarkatans wants to autocorrect to charlatans!
@space9545
@space9545 4 жыл бұрын
I hate that dark raiden was used for only about two chapters. It was like what was the point in making him dark raiden if he was only going to be used for a short amount of time.
@StudentOfKasumi
@StudentOfKasumi 5 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful well done take on the semi story before, the real breakdown🥰
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