Postal Worker with Imaginary Friend Murders Seven People | Jennifer San Marco Case Analysis

[@JohnAragon-tz3zu]

Hello Dr. Todd, I am a retired Correctional Officer, I worked with Jennifer San Marco when she was employed at CRC in Norco, Ca. Jennifer originally was employed at Chuckawalla State Prison, Blythe, whereas she was fired for having sex with male inmates. CRC s Warden after a time allowed Jennifer to return as a C O. , then promoted her to a rank of Sergeant. A few months later, Jennifer picked up her inmate boy friend from the Blythe prison, He just paroled, and traveled to Arizona and robbed a convenience store, using Jennifers gun, then returned to California whereas CHP units stopped them on interstate 10 thus arresting them both. During a search of Jennifer car, her CDC Sgt. uniformed and weapon was discovered. She was fired again. I am at a loss as why she never did ant time, nor why a county sheriff would employ her as a dispatcher. Jennifer was a self centered psycho when I worked with her, always seem to please the Warden. Dr. Todd your time line is on, date and years are correct, but I added personal background regarding Sgt. Jennifer San Marco.

[@hrdley911]

Wow. Just wow...

[@yikesyikes5974]

I am always intrigued by people who personally knew these people. Wow this is insightful.

[@mrbriceno3949]

The government doesn’t care they will continue to let us down and continue to let our neighbors and family members be killed… A hotline could’ve prevented this trgedy unfortunately public officials are not held accountable in USA 🇺🇸

[@sandybitter4609]

The red flags in this particular case are simply overwhelming!

[@mtss9566]

Thank you. Very interesting.

[@rayross997]

When buying a gun Homer Simpson was told there had to be a 5 day background check. He responded to the clerk with, "but I'm mad now!"

[@lisabradford8180]

😂😂

[@paradoxparade1]

Gun clerk: "And this is for shooting down police helicopters." Homer: "Oh I don't need anything like that... yet."

[@vicvega3614]

Lol thats definitely a top 5 episode. He uses the gun to change the channels on the tv 😅

[@WileyCoyoteSuperGenius]

Exactly. The Simpsons still haven't gotten old. Some things never change.

[@bold810]

He also gasped "There's a NEW Mexico?!". 🤣🤣🤣

[@roryrubymace3749]

I've worked as a mail processing clerk for about 12 years now. It really does take A LOT for them to fire people here 🤣

[@lorirausch3326]

I worked as a rural carrier for 9 years, they wouldn’t fire me so I was forced to quit!

[@shinrugal]

It's almost impossible to leave government jobs which is why I am going out on disability like my mother did years ago.

[@PetieLee]

I worked as a career mail processing clerk for 3 years or so, mostly working night shift. There are A LOT of issues as to why those postal workers go "postal". I'm thankful for the time I had at the post office but couldn't or wouldn't do it again. I found that most people got wiggy at the post office processing plant just needed sleep! Average sleep for the clerks I was working with was about 2-6 hours of sleep during the day. Kudos to all postal workers out there!!!

[@crystalhaataja304]

Dude for real. This lady straight up committed a felony in our office, boss fought to keep her job. same lady didn't show up for like a month, still didn't fire her until some crazy stuff happened. Carrier at a friend of mines office was caught burning mail. Didn't get fired. We even learned about that person in my training. I later found out It was that carrier. I was shook.

[@david-dj8or]

These days working at schools even if people think you might do something is enough to get you fired.

[@breathnstop]

Working nights is so unhealthy. Also many psych patients I met as a nurse used racial slurs when florridly psychotic and were horrified once they got medicine and stabilized. They were totally different and when well, were often ashamed and apologetic anout their behavior.

[@carpathianken]

When I was involuntarily locked up for a drug induced psychosis from amphetamine use whereby I wouldn't sleep for days, I got self destructive & negatively abusive with myself but never with the psych nurses or mental health professionals. I got along well with all the psych hospital staff , but the other patients were so frustrating & unreasonable & they pissed me off no end. They'd be contrary & overtly aggressive, never answer questions when the psych nurses asked them questions to try to get a gauge on how they were progressing mentally & they'd never participate in the classes & group therapy sessions, which I would have thought would help them progress to wellness if they did. Many of them would get illicit marijuana smuggled in & smoke it in our rooms & it was their use of potent weed that got them institutionalised in the first place...I hope the patients that did apologise to you were genuine & they made an effort to raise their standards when their psychosis subsided.

[@wilhelmhagberg4897]

Yes, I think it’s important to stress that a person suffering from psychosis isn’t ”revealing their true character” (like an alcoholic might do) but can act in ways totally unrelated to their normal self.

[@lisabradford8180]

@@wilhelmhagberg4897 true💯💯

[@nixm9093]

"breathnstop" is a slightly worrying name for a nurse 😂

[@edwardwong654]

@breathnstop Thanks for sharing, that is good to know. I think sometimes during a fight/argument, one will just use whatever slur that comes to mind but without really meaning it.

[@NieceyWeesey]

Dr Grande, my newborn son remembers your voice from the womb. You should see his reactions when I play your videos 😂

[@troy3456789]

​@@wanya_telbornthat's not nice

[@heatherbukowski2102]

@@wanya_telborn uh are YOU okay? There's nothing strange about her comment.

[@MiguelDLewis]

@@wanya_telborn It's called Prenatal Memory. There are literally thousands of peer-reviewed academic studies proving this phenomenon. You should maybe read a bit before attempting to insult someone.

[@You-Know-Youre-Right]

lmao these comments are silly

[@misakistalker]

so cute, my son remembered justin bieber's "sorry" song

[@JE4-1]

I was working that day on overtime since it was normally my day off. I knew Jennifer San Marco quite well, she would sit with me sometimes at lunch wanting to know how to buy stocks which I knew a lot about. I also knew everyone she killed, they were my co-workers who I had worked with everyday for years. When she started she was a great worker and very friendly, but after about a year that changed and she became a completely different person. Many believed that she had stopped taking her medication but no one really knows. I first noticed it when I said "Hi Jennifer" and she didn't respond but gave me an angry look. I thought maybe I had offended her in some way, I just didn't understand it because she had spoken friendly to me almost everyday for more than a year before that. Anyway, the night it happened, I heard the gunshots while I was scanning Priority Mail and then everyone started to run to the dock where the trucks were, for safety. Dexter Shannon was one week away from retirement. Charlotte Colton was an employee trainer. She actually was not working that night, she had just popped in for a few minutes to leave off some paperwork, even though she could have done it the next morning. A deaf employee that she really liked when she worked there, was at the time clock ready to leave when she spotted him. He later told me she smiled at him and then went on her way, he was spared! Right after she shot Charlotte Colton, she aimed her gun at the head of a lady employee who would have been killed for sure, except for the fact that her gun jammed, giving time for that employee to escape. I had worked at that office since 1989 and loved working there, but after that happened in 2006 it just wasn't the same. I happily took early retirement in January 2013, after 23 years. RIP my beautiful friend 😢 You left us too soon..😭🙏

[@camillecoccagna194]

So sorry you had to experience this

[@SuperRockinRobert]

Thanks for sharing your story. Peace be with you.

[@hollyberry2752]

I'm so sorry you lost friends from a crazy person. God bless you

[@Heiscomingbacksoon7]

That took alot of courage to write about. Thank you, and I am truly sorry you had to experience that. 😢

[@maryannebphillips9124]

God Bless

[@LúciaKitten]

6 people went to work, believing that at the end of their shift, they'd go home and relax... and instead, their lives were taken, just because they were there. So sad they and the neighbor had to cross path with this lady. Thank you for your analysis on this case, Dr. Grande.

[@benhartart9487]

Correct, tomorrow is not guaranteed

[@radicalkelly59]

I was employed by the post office beginning in 2015. In orientation, we were told that if we ever said the words "going postal" at work, we would immediately be fired and escorted out of the building.

[@daynasafranek7807]

I remember when this happened and the term “going postal”, was heard for ages. Jennifer wasn’t the first, nor was she the last to vent fury at a post office, but she was a wild case.

[@lisabradford8180]

She was even more disturbed than others who did the same.

[@MrArgus11111]

"Going postal" was in fairly widespread use long before Jennifer. She was not the first postal worker to become violent.

[@kingcosworth2643]

@@MrArgus11111 t started with Patrick Henry Sherrill in '86, the nutter

[@TwinBleaks]

​@@MrArgus11111 Yeah, she already stated Jennifer wasn't the first...

[@pashon4percushon]

yeah,i had a buddy in 97 who had a shirt that said "post /; office"

[@SinaAla]

I was a student at UC Santa Barbara and living in Goleta (Isla Vista) when this happened. All I remember that night was riding my bike home from school and my roommate frantically approaching me and locking the door behind me. The police had sent warnings to stay inside but I hadn’t heard anything. Anyway, such a tragic story.

[@dianamal]

I remember this too since I live in Santa Barbara , sad

[@Susan-lf2hl]

It traumatized everyone nearby

[@WeekendsOutsideFL]

Oh the days when you could just get a regular job and… buy a condo

[@evelynwaugh4053]

Actually, the USPS was considered a very well paid job back then.

[@_borger]

lol, oh yea, I assumed she must have had some sort of family money or inheritance.

[@TianXiaoMao]

I thought the same thing. 😢

[@Tailionis]

​@@evelynwaugh4053back than. I work for the usps now. Can't afford any home on a single income.

[@stlounsbury]

🙏

[@chrisnanopoulos9905]

Wasn’t she involuntarily committed to a psychiatric facility? How did she legally obtain a firearm? This is a big part of the problem.

[@yourfuturewaifu9061]

You can legally obtain a firearm and have been on a 5150 hold. California appears to have a 5 year period before you can obtain a gun, though.

[@chrisnanopoulos9905]

@@yourfuturewaifu9061 It depends on the state. It doesn’t allow that in my state of Pa. It shouldn’t be allowed in any state, if it involves any shaky mental history. That’s my opinion, I think that may be asking for trouble. Mental illnesses can’t be cured, although treatment can be helpful and successful. They should never be able to legally acquire a firearm.

[@MrOnyxRaven]

The form to purchase a firearm is ATF Form 4473. That is a federal form. Section 21g: "g. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?". If either are true, you are prohibited to possess a firearm under 18 U.S.C. § 922(g), aka The Gun Control Act. State law has no bearing on any of that. Not everyone who is taken for an involuntary mental health evaluation is "committed" to a mental institution. Some people "pass" the evaluation and that is that. Also, just because they are "committed" doesn't mean it gets properly reported. Same with criminal convictions.

[@Kristina19284]

@@chrisnanopoulos9905who are YOU to say someone with depression shouldn’t be able to protect their family or solve their depression using unorthodox methods ie gun.

[@chrisnanopoulos9905]

@@MrOnyxRaven Right, thanks for info. No, I don’t have psychiatric issues or history. I know people who have. This woman, San Marco was involuntary committed for a 72 hour hold and assessed. Her diagnosis isn’t known, that I can find. Her diagnosis is actually irrelevant. This didn’t show up on her background check; supposedly. This is what the pawn shop says, that sold her the gun. It took only two days and it was in her hands. Like I said, anyone with any kind of shaky psychiatric history should be banned from owning or possessing any firearm. It’s not going to kill them( no pun intended), but it may save some lives and theirs, preventing them from acquiring it. It’s not a necessity of life. This was too easy for her. If there’s a will, there’s a way. They may acquire one, regardless. The safeguards are lacking and maybe, set up some kind of system, where anyone with any psychiatric history, trying to obtain a firearm, would be prevented and authorities notified. That’s how I feel about it. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

[@DigitalNeb]

It's wild that this lady could present such clear symptoms of mental distress, and yet no one was able to help her. We have to do better. This lady was just really sick, and ultimately, that sickness killed her and seven other people.

[@jeannehall6546]

Schizophrenia. Pure and simple.

[@alphaomega1351]

Oh... so she was religious? 🤔

[@edelweiss2.076]

Schizophrenia is one of several illnesses that can cause psychosis. It can also occur with schizoaffective disorder, bipolar disorder, major depression and postpartum depression. I've had a psychosis. It's a terrifying experience, like a nightmare you can't wake up from. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I was fortunate to have a loving, supportive family that got me treatment immediately. I've never had another psychosis because I take meds & will for the rest of my life.

[@hilaryb8807]

Not necessarily. Psychosis can also be caused by issues like brain tumours, medical conditions, or brain injuries.

[@jeannehall6546]

@@hilaryb8807 Maybe. But I have dealt with someone directly who was schizophrenic (officially diagnosed as such) and he had many of the traits described in the video.

[@stephenkalatucka6213]

The official diagnosis: Bat-sh*t crazy.

[@laurashawn2803]

had to go to your page to find this. This website never showed me this video. It also looks like I am the only person who has viewed. Very odd to be sure!

[@mamatried528]

Vey odd, same thing here. 2 views

[@-10]

it just came out as patreon exclusive, guess it was made public early by accident.

[@AnnaBelll.e]

It's because it's on Patreon

[@rachelmansoor8323]

Patreon exclusive

[@Throatzillaaa]

​@AnastasiaFafo i understand it's on patreon, but it only showed up for me (and you and others, I think) like two days ago which makes it odd that the comment we are replying to is one month old.

[@Ellienollie]

The real crime is that someone who dropped out of college and worked for the postal office could afford to purchase a condo in Santa Barbara…..like the inflation and price fixing is OUT OF CONTROL today

[@retsaMinnavoiG]

Populations increase and already well developed/desirable areas become more expensive to buy. For example, you can find plenty of places now that are cheap but they're not very developed and/or desirable BUT might be in 30 years. On top of this is just natural population increases which fundamentally increase the price of property. I'm not saying Sant Barbara wasn't developed or desirable back then but it has become more developed and more desirable (which can mean more job opportunities, less relative crime, better schools, more facilities/infrastructure etc.).

[@Gingerwhale]

Newman, the U.S. postal mailman in the sitcom Seinfeld explained very well why some postal workers go crazy and ultimately may kill people: ''Because the mail never stops, it just keeps coming and coming and coming. They're never a letup. It's relentless. Every day it piles up more and more and more. And you got to get it out. But the more you get it out, the more it keeps coming in. And then the barcode reader breaks and is clearing house...'' At this point Kramer stops his hysterical rant. Great analysis.

[@Jairogliphx]

Why work there or why not just leave ? There so many better opportunities out there than to slave yourself there

[@heymax23]

@@Jairogliphx This is completely true. I worked at FedEx for 2 years as a swing driver and did very well there (ex: won employee of the month twice). But it became grueling work, esp doing 4am - 9pm shifts during the summer. I quit and started bartending, which is 100 times easier and pretty much roughly the same pay, even in the somewhat humble town of Raleigh North Carolina. There is nothing stopping anyone from finding better in their life.

[@JustMe-ef7xv]

True. It's all about numbers, volume.

[@sadiec2701]

This kinda sounds like every job I've ever had though lol just replace mail with merchandise, food orders, drinks, books, tank cars, invoices, dishes, etc etc etc

[@tripledair]

Crazy how a person can present normally for years, and suddenly just…switch.

[@davidglad]

Hence the phrase Going Postal

[@Koozomec]

Brain tumor ?

[@tripledair]

@@davidglad yeah I guess you’re right. Sheesh.

[@tripledair]

@@Koozomec something!

[@LauraSolomon-u3o]

Or... a person can harbor a deviant mental state for years, preserving a more or less normal life and appearance, and then never having been truly normal, one day just give in and let it run. The normalcy is rather like a mask or a chrysallis, and once the individual works beyond those boundaries, the normalcy collapses. The protective boundaries are gone.

[@pashon4percushon]

i worked at a Post Office plant for about a year the redundancy drove me crazy. It was mail mail mail mail by the truckloads for 4 hours everyday then it all had to get sorted....and put right back on the trucks. That didnt include the junk mail that seemed to come out of nowhere.

[@vinijohnson1046]

lol

[@5150Bud]

Same here. Mind numbing.

[@billyin4c514]

😂 Wtf?! This woman was repeatedly walking around naked, singing in public, praying on the side of the road, and the cops were like , " Sweetheart, you gotta go home, and also don't drive naked." With exhibiting these behaviors, this woman should have been institutionalized immediately. The authorities are responsible for this, they have an obligation to protect the public.

[@reddishf0x237]

im ready to speculate without diagnosing in a situation like this!

[@lindawilson4625]

It sounds like the very familiar story "I feel fine, so I don't need to take my meds anymore."

[@theresisty7122]

I feel fine. I make sure to take my meds and see my therapist so that I can continue to feel fine.

[@Da1Dez]

One thing notable about these types stories, is that the individual's dilemna in the story seems to span years before they commit the act that makes them infamous, meaning people ought to intervene more to help their minds, such as not outcast, reject or ridicule them.

[@davewhiteman8353]

I found your analysis of this topic informative. Thank you Dr Grande.

[@Altered4n892t]

Jennifer was an accident looking for a place to happen.

[@lisabradford8180]

💯

[@kbsanders]

What disturbing story did she tell her co-worker as a postal worker that got her reported?

[@brendaredmond4678]

My sister was diagnosed Schizophrenic as an adult but the signs seemed to be there in her teen years as well. She was 17 years older than me so I dont really recall her living at home as she actually married at the age of 19. One part of this story stuck out to me. Her anger towards the neighbor. When my sister was 16 years old our Aunt was making a prom dress for her. Our Aunt who is not very kind or sensitive told my sister that yellow was not her color. She said my sister looked horrible in yellow and looked like a bumblebee. This comment rooted in my sister and grew into hatred of our Aunt. For 3 decades until my sisters death she spoke about our Aunt and this comment. She said many times that she hoped my Aunt would die from a million bee stings. Any misfortune or bad thing that befell any member of our family was blamed on our Aunt.

[@stuffroom979]

My friend was diagnosed schizophrenic after taking an axe to his wall because he thought his neighbors were "rapists" (I don't think he knew them it was just an old lady or something)

[@Carmy97]

Love your sense of humor and sarcasm Dr. Grande. I am seeking out all of your videos for a giggle despite the serious circumstances of the actual videos. You have a way with words that few other people have and that is such a talent! Well done on a great entertaining but serious channel.

[@lindas5964]

This was interesting for sure and I’m happy when Dr. Grande gives a more “clinical” speculation rather then what the rest of us do ie… “arrogant, vindictive, selfish, self-centered…”

[@wilhelmhagberg4897]

Agreed, his earlier videos went much deeper in psychological analyzes. The ”negative adjective rants” are a quite new addition.

[@loiskondo8349]

Rest in peace to her victims. Thank us for this video about a very strange incident. Have a great weekend Dr. Grande!

[@panninggazz5244]

condolences to the victims families. what a terrible crime spree. she is one frightening person.

[@hilriekemp]

Jesus the last two murders were just messed up, you're just doing your job and get shot without warning. You can't run, reflect or pray, it's just all over in a blink of a second. Man I listened to a lot of these but this was by far the most depressing to die just doing your job smh

[@adude9882]

My freind maybe you have only just realised that you can die without knowing anything. If so its not rare. We are so accustomed to thinking of having time to tnink about it and this making it worse. Movies, etc. Then this other possibility occurs to you

[@hilriekemp]

@@adude9882 bro you can die a lot of different ways in a lot of different places. But getting shot at work just doing your job and not having the wherewithal to be able to process or contemplate the end is especially cruel. Could you imagine getting up getting dressed, eating breakfast, doing your dailies, head to work, another day another dollar and then just nothing. You're life just ceases to exist and the afterlife awaits yeah naw that's not cool. Well to me anyways

[@Susan-lf2hl]

​@@hilriekemp I think at least they didn't suffer or were tortured. Doubt there is an afterlife so its.just lights out with no more pain as we return to the universe's energy from which we came.

[@ddawson8069]

Why blaspheme and bring yourself sorrow?

[@Relayzy1]

​@@ddawson8069why the stupid belief?

[@audralynn7454]

It's so sad that someone was basically in the world alone and had no one to help her. Its hard to be friends with someone with schizo disorders, unless (qnd even if) you knew them before the onset. Thank you for sharing this case Dr. Grande.

[@audralynn7454]

@artypicklespvp7174 if she had friends and people around her they may have been able to help her or alert someone before it got so bad. That was my point.

[@Relayzy1]

​@@audralynn7454well crazy people scare of normal people... it's on them.

[@peterfazio9306]

It's hard to feel sorry for anyone who takes others' lives.

[@JohnnyDanger36963]

​@@peterfazio9306I knew Jennifer and she waa psychic and could see spirits. She tole me that 6 of her coworkers were monster demons and that go had sent her to save the other coworkers. I tried to change her mind but when she spit blood at me,I backed off and moved away.

[@jenanne31]

Wow, I have a neighbor who exhibits some of the same strange behavior (including the weird praying), and used to work at the post office! Yikes....

[@zerowhite2286]

Definitely keep your door locked!

[@laurah.7696]

How she passed a background check with no problem? Thanks for the bits of humor haha.

[@schaefermmorgan1]

I was thinking the same thing and I totally believe in gun rights. I always thought that if you went in for mental health care and it wasn't on your own accord that would block you from getting a gun.

[@yourfuturewaifu9061]

A background check is typically a criminal background check. If she hadn't been caught for any crimes she would have passed. Mental illness typically doesn't preclude you, barring extenuating circumstances.

[@ironwoodnf]

​@@schaefermmorgan1it should not preclude someone from owning a gun. Anyone who is committed by there family or a professional have there rights stripped without a just cause. The possiblity of misuse would preclude the entire population from gun ownership.

[@edelweiss2.076]

Had the San Marco woman received adequate mental health care, none of those murders would have taken place. It's very sad that San Marco had no one in her life to help her when she couldn't help herself. No family. No partner. No real friends.

[@juneyshu6197]

Or she burned them out or was dangerous!

[@legitbeans9078]

She had no friends because she was batshit crazy, and racist. Lol

[@rrickard2874]

Most people taking meds will skip a day or two, claiming they're feeling better. Just two days without her medication, and this day happens anyway.

[@marig9236]

I wonder if she did show signs when she was a younger woman but ppl chalked it up to "being weird" or living in "la la land". like dismissing it to make an excuse for it.

[@8abydoll]

This is really similar to what I went through. A lot of young women end up going without treatment that leads them to spiral because of how dismissive society is of their mental health.

[@annazaman9657]

If she had lived a hundred years ago she would have been institutionalized and termed insane

[@childrenpraisegod1230]

Biggest mistake is past institutions for mentally ill exclusively was 'discrimination' it INTEGRATED care in community under CPN respite centres closed so isolated.

[@jacquelinecottrell6546]

Your voice puts me to sleep. I have trouble sleeping…thank you so much!

[@AnnaFragolari2]

You FINALLY said it!!! Making racist remarks IS a mental problem! 🎉

[@pearlfeather9326]

I t doesnt mean a person is insane.! Are you?

[@robpolaris7272]

This was 1/2 a mile from my house. What is crazy is another infamous shooter Eliot Roger’s shooting happened 1.5 miles from my house. Both are close to my alma mater, UCSB.

[@mason4966]

Thank you so much for making this video. I really appreciate it. I was very curious about your thoughts on this case.

[@JustHarrison]

100% the experiences she had in childhood caused this. Dr. Grande says not a lot is known about that time, but since I've been studying the effects of emotional/physical abuse on children and how it affects their adult lives, it is undeniable that these kinds of mass killings don't just come out of the blue. She absolutely was severely emotionally neglected, this is what causes the mental break which leads to the creation of the "imaginary friends." She may have also been sexual assaulted as a little girl. This offense in particular makes it close to impossible for a person to have close relationships with others as an adult, and often leads to depression/suicide later in life. The only way America is ever going to stop mass shootings is going to be when we acknowledge, as a nation, that the core of all human social, political, and psychological human problems is the wounded inner-child.

[@seniorjohnl]

People can develop psychosis without being abused in any way. A completely normal person can have an onset of schizophrenia later in life that is not related to their past.

[@annstewart6194]

​@@seniorjohnl agreed after tramas, etc after childhood. Mental health can be depleted/ disrupted through life.

[@leannemo7382]

Psychosis leading to tragedy can also occur from untreated mental illness. She was presumably not taking her meds anymore.

[@pearlfeather9326]

Oh please...psychobabble. Some people just become unbalanced for reasons other than childhood abuse!

[@retsaMinnavoiG]

Some people are crazy. I generally agree that most adulthood mental issues can be linked to childhood experiences BUT that many people are just crazy.

[@emghee2510]

Dr. Grande, thank you for the upload! 🤌

[@SakuraAsranArt]

We can't have imaginary friends now? Damn, I better go tell my Emotional Support Demon to pack his stuff up 😔

[@blueStarKitt7924]

🤣😂 You are a fan of The Click as well?👍

[@kingcosworth2643]

Hmm ,I hope you and your buddy aren't armed

[@emilywilliams9916]

😂

[@FollowingTheDream455]

Your comment reminds me of the movie Bad Milo. I'm not sure if you've seen it, but I'll summarize the film in case you haven't. This man inherits a butt demon from his father. The man's butt demon is named Milo, and Milo kills people who upset his owner.

[@Listrynne]

I have the keychain ESD and the glow in the dark one. I'm trying to decide if I should get a rainbow one.

[@jenimiranda4284]

This is sad 😢 mental illness is so difficult to manage and alot of people don't take their medications

[@kellyyork3898]

It’s always sad when people have paranoid ideation because it never ends well. Eventually, they either have these paranoid thoughts about people around them and end up acting on these thoughts to “protect themselves,” or because of their paranoid thoughts, and the actions which accompany them, they annoy/frighten someone to the point where the other person attacks the original paranoid person-a self-fulfilling prophecy. Either way, bad things eventually happen. Assaults and even deaths can occur. Watch out for people with paranoid thoughts.

[@RullVox]

Thanks, Dr. Grande, this is a case I've never heard of before.

[@oldschool8432]

When going Postal reaches a whole nother level

[@alukuhito]

nother?

[@JT-sl3ui]

@@MsAdventure531 right. Was thinking the same. This is the very level that coined the term. Some peoples kids.

[@MelanieLogan-o8m]

I've been subscribed for a while but lately my fiance started watching you. He thinks you're hilarious. So I started watching again and I'll cracking up on some of the comments. Never realized you were so funny

[@ganiniii]

The system failed blatantly. It's unbelievable how someone in that state never got the help she needed. They had her there but never helped her and these pathologies need constant therapy and medication.

[@isaactuuri6488]

Reminds me a bit of the news lady that killer herself on air, reason being per her diaries she was beyond lonely for decades and finally snapped

[@bertvosburg558]

A friend of mine from Mio Michigan had a sister that worked at Dow Chemical plant and after many years working there she retired and calmly went out of her head in such ways as removing all her clothes and running down a rural rode etc. Nothing violent, but always something unexpected and out of character. Their father also worked there in the early years and died earlier than normal. TOO MANY CHEMICALS.

[@discospiders]

Raise your hand if you want to see Dr G wear his Hawaiian shirt with the magenta hibiscus flowers, tomorrow!

[@evawasteson1296]

Some shirts are an expression of the dr's sense of humour

[@Flamsterette]

I'm on my way to a funeral right now. Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande! Your true fans love your humour and sarcasm. Today (June 1) is National Game Show Day, Say Something Nice Day, Hazelnut Cake Day, Don't Give Up The Ship Day, Pen Pal Day, Dare Day, Dinosaur Day, World Milk Day (gotta have some Earth's Own vanilla almond milk later!), World Olive Day, National Nail Polish Day, Oscar The Grouch Day, World Narcissistic Abuse Awareness Day, International Children's Day, Flip A Coin Day, and National Go Barefoot Day.

[@iamdrabhishekgupta]

World Reef Awareness Day.

[@bigboy7927]

Going through life day by day.😅

[@jasonlane2436]

Love your opinions and insight 🙏🏻 Don’t take it the wrong way (more of a compliment) but I fall asleep to your videos…your presentation is deep, informative, to the point and calmimg… Keep them coming 🙏🏻 J🇬🇧

[@SirenaSpades]

Wow, she could hold a grudge. I cant remember past ten minutes let alone be upset that long

[@ReeseyPiecey11]

Hear me out... Maybe we should revisit the option of asylums.

[@4catmom14]

Thank you I agree.

[@oooh19]

The asylums treated people very cruelly though. They can still treat them better.

[@Dmdirmrjr33]

Back in 60s many innocent normal people were placed into asylums, if they brought it back more innocent people would go in including u .

[@YoungGirlz8463]

That would be worse than a death sentence.

[@Relayzy1]

And torture people with a illness?

[@Simonisms]

'Inconsistent with proper hairstyle management' 😂

[@_knife.prty_]

Doc the thumb nail is crazy! GOING POSTAL 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂

[@myeyeswentdeaf6213]

America! The only place in the world where a raving lunatic talking to themselves can stumble into a gun shop, pick out the biggest assault rifle there’s, and have the clerk ask “Did the voices in your head say how much ammo they want, or will this be all?”

[@musiczkl98]

still better than your communist country

[@coyotegraysr]

I live south of Grants NM. I Remember when that happened.

[@sludge8506]

Congratulations. 😴😴😴

[@Spoingusbazoingus]

Listening to this on my mail route 💪

[@nix6959]

When did we stop calling imaginary friends demons. Those are demons.

[@fridaytieday]

I agree. I think she was possessed. Probably happened after working at the Correction centre....that would be full of people possessed by demons. That part of her life has been completely ommitted.

[@adude9882]

Had she survived I wonder if she would have been fired.

[@samspade8612]

How many copies of "The Catcher in The Rye" did she have in her home?

[@katarratube]

So not only did they let her get a license to publish a periodical called "The Racist Press", but they also let her renew the license as well?? Wow.

[@Meditationsounds13]

Miranda Sings School of Cosmetology 🤣🙌

[@mattwilliams3456]

Another case where an involuntary mental health stay was not properly documented, allowing her to pass the NICS background check.

[@bayoumanbryan]

i worked at the post office for 2.5 years back in the 1980's the pressure that the supervisors put on their employees was unreal. there were some pretty mentally ill people that i worked with. there was one man that was bat**** crazy he talked to himself constantly loudly and laughed out loud often. another one was a drunk that did some really wild stuff and also molested his grandsons while taking them on "camping trips."

[@alukuhito]

I think it's more than just a coincidence that people use the term "to go postal" in English. There's something unique to working at the post office in the USA or Canada. In Canada, I don't know how exactly it is now, but for the longest time it was a job in which workers got paid quite a bit of money compared to the easiness of the job. The union is strong because everybody wants their mail. As soon as conditions aren't met, workers can just go on strike. Everybody gets pissed off when their mail isn't delivered, so demand the workers go back. The workers eventually get what they and their union want. I think it gives workers a sense of entitlement. My sister's attitude completely changed once she started a regular job at the post office. She used to be really kind, but after starting work at the post office, she got really macho, vulgar, and entitled. Like this woman, she held grudges. Suddenly everything was our parents' fault, the government's fault, everyone else's fault. I miss my pre-post office sister. We used to be able to talk about our mom, but she made it clear that was not a topic to bring up with her. She'd go into some weird defensive mode. Thankfully she has never shown any violent tendencies and she has become calmer lately, after a new man in her life and quitting the post office. I really do think though that that particular job, at least in Canada and the USA, isn't conducive to good mental health, at least for some people.

[@fridaytieday]

That is fascinating!!!!

[@retsaMinnavoiG]

It seems like the job probably isn't so easy if people are coming out angry, jaded and combative. A happy and healthy person doesn't become angry and arrogant because they have an easy job...

[@rileysmith9843]

Can you analyze the case of the Missouri police officer that shot a dog dead because the officer believed the dog had rabies? I’d like to see the mental health and personality characteristics and other things leading up to the dog shooting incident.

[@notprovided1131]

I think this is what "going postal" refers to

[@wolfychicago]

Such a well done analysis. Thank you.

[@lindsayantwine1097]

I have an honest question: why is it, when a person is displaying such obvious symptoms of severe mental illness, and they have repeated interactions with law enforcement, why is something not officially done to place them into care? It would obviously, as so many of these instances demonstrate, save a ton of lives. Why won't the authorities do something to help a suffering person? And in doing so, protect the public?

[@coryingman]

Brcause the GOP ran a disinformation campaign throughought the 1970s to scare the public into letting the federal government shudder the mental hospitals. So, the people which society has no place for were simply dumped onto the streets, literally. This is a large driver for the murder and violence wave that peaked in 1992. That and leaded gasoline.

[@Alex-gw9mj]

Money. Starting in the 60s and actually ending around the time this happened we closed asylums. Because they were constantly and consistently committing egregious human rights violations, worldwide. There started to be more of a focus on at home care and of course more ethical accommodations such as group homes which are extremely expensive in comparison to asylums due to the increased level of care and most group homes are for profit, and privately owned. The issue we run into is most severely mentally ill people either don’t have families that care about them, or their families can’t afford literal hundreds of thousands of dollars of continuous care. They also can’t ’afford’ at home care as that requires a family member essentially doesn’t work in order to provide that care they are hardly ever equipped to provide. There are of course government programs to assist in the cost of this care, but I think it’s pretty clear to all of us by the daily mass shooting headlines these programs are falling short.

[@lauravillanueva2175]

You tell the situation well. Very cool vibes. I’m definitely binge watching all the videos I’ve missed out on and I’m quite entertained thank You 🙏

[@Snakesnarl]

Yesssssss. Finally covering this case

[@maryannebphillips9124]

My parents were continually insulted and just as continually vengeful. They targetted me also as an enemy.

[@mangafq8]

Riverside to Santa Barbara: good move SB to Grants, NM: interesting change of venue

[@dalehalliday3578]

shouldn't there be tighter restrictions on who is able to buy a gun?

[@adotintheshark4848]

"Amanda Sings' School Of Cosmetology". Nothing is safe from the wrath of Jennifer, nor Doctor Grande.

[@stee1ydeac0n]

I’m curious about whether Jennifer’s autopsy showed any possible organic condition that may have contributed to her behavior.

[@BigCreepySleepy]

Why aren’t Imaginary Friends nice people?

[@audralynn7454]

Because imaginary friends are the intrusive thoughts we are told are bad thoughts. Rather than have bad thoughts, it was "someone" else.

[@sansnom508]

My childhood imaginary friends were very nice. They were well-behaved on our semi-annual train trips to visit my grandparents and never caused a ruckus or got me into trouble. I haven't seen them in almost 60 years, hope they're doing well. 🤣🤣🤣

[@willthebeast8002]

What do you mean?? All of mine are....

[@vicvega3614]

Mine are

[@alphaomega1351]

Don't you dare make fun of religious people! They can't help it. 😳

[@xennialnick]

I really hope there are no other 'situations like this'!

[@kingcosworth2643]

Jesus Christ, how many interactions did she have with the police, well done team

[@ddawson8069]

Why blaspheme and bring yourself sorrow?

[@BillieYoung-ge5dx]

I got chills when you said she looked at them and smiled as they looked through the window that’s creepy

[@sunspiral79]

Any other employer wouldve fired her long before it come to this

[@reavanante2160]

Great analysis Dr. Grande. Some of these cases sound like hypoxia. A mountain climber took a video of himself getting settled for the night in his tent in low oxygen conditions. He was talking to himself and disorganized, very goofy like drunk. Its common for brain damaged people not to be aware of their condition. One true crime story about axe murder, the victim got up and tried to get ready for work. Very sad. So, not to excuse the crimes, but to avoid them if it is from an injury or disease process in the perpetrator. It could explain the paranoia and anger. Not being conciously aware of a disability but instinctively knowing and angry that there is no help from perhaps coworkers or neighbor. There are conditions that are not obvious, and cannot be determined superficially because they are hidden in the meta bolic or transport processes. So, new ground.

[@aaronburratwood.6957]

Living large Dr. Grande‼️

[@lizmonard]

Did they do an autopsy and rule out a brain tumour? I’ve nursed patients with brain tumours and their personalities can undergo tremendous changes,

[@BreiterDays]

This one is not as well known as it should be. Saw an episode of Born To Kill on this some years back. Very rare. Oddly reminiscent of Amy Bishop to me.

[@jamba622]

Very well known to boomers. Was all over the news when it happened. The term “going postal” grew from this case and meant losing control of oneself violently. This was a ubiquitous phrase back then.

[@TianXiaoMao]

​@@jamba622 The term "going postal" was around since 1986. There's even a Wikipedia page about it.

[@Rachelief]

I remember watching a documentary on this case a couple of years ago. Such a violent set of actions that day.

[@Andy-kw5nw]

This was on January 30, 2006. I just don’t want anyone confused that mass shootings are a societal problem now………….not a postal problem.

[@ELCAPATAZ]

"Perhaps there was a rule against unincorporated cats getting food, It's not clear." 😂

[@haaather7131]

New Mexico isn't known as "the land of entrapment" for nothing.

[@teresaperez5995]

Thank you Dr Grande for your videos and contents I always find it entertaining and educational at the same time. Would love to hear your thoughts on Jennifer Lopez and Ben affleck. It appears to be on again off again and then playing with the social media. Of hiding their hands. I know they're public figures but then they are entitled to have a private life. But just curious to hear what your thoughts and take is on their relationship thank you again

[@nanordstrom]

We're where parents and siblings? Was she abused at home? The healthcare system failed here, there seems to be a total 'not my problem' response from those who knew her

[@scottdavidson526]

All they know is that her parents divorced when she was young and not really anything else is known about them. She grew up in Brooklyn, NY.

[@chrismartin5450]

Or maybe you have no idea how difficult it is to get help for the mentally ill in this world. I have an adult son that I have been dealing with for years!!!……an involuntary committal they keep him for 2 days with “orders” for him to follow up but he doesn’t and nobody enforces those orders. So it’s easy to sit and judge but very different when you live it.

[@IARRCSim]

12:30 if your hair looks like it was cut with a hacksaw, you're using too much hairspray. If you put glue, wood putty, or epoxy in your hair, you're likely using too much of that too.

[@LardoWizardo]

I want to know what rap songs she would reportedly rap😂

[@dougsheldon5560]

Sadly, these people slip through the cracks on a daily basis.