POSTCAST: BYU Football's First Half No-Show Costs Them Comeback For The Ages | BYU Cougars Podcast

[@zedalvea841]

Last year to this year Jake improved alot, he could make another leap with one more year,

[@chandlernielson7409]

We were expected to win 4 or 5 games. BYU has far outdone what we all thought. We beat Utah, we are 9-2. I was devastated with the loss but woke up today and thought if we can get seasons like this every year(being a contender in Big 12 champ ) I will be happy. Hopefully we go 10-2, and I get to keep seeing and watching games like this with my boys. Go cougs and finish strong this year.

[@shanemeyer7989]

Expectations reset when you start 9-0. They just do. Get outta here with that fluff.

[@malaw514]

@@shanemeyer7989You tell him, get that logical and perfectly reasonable take out of here so we can be dramatic and entitled.

[@jbrock8596]

Perfect attitude, right on

[@lukeskywalker7461]

​@@shanemeyer7989cry more

[@sotl97]

You are right. After the SMU game I gave them maybe 3 more wins. They rattled off 7. I should just be happy with the way this season has gone. It's been fun, and to see how close they are to being 11-0 right now is incredible. Missed extra points and 2-point conversations were the difference. That defense is good enough to get them a national championship if only their offense can get their stuff together.

[@matthewlaird5235]

The only reason the game was even close was Kenny Dillingham was an idiot. I was yelling at the T.V. Take the 3 points! And not handing it of to Scattebo and going for a TD, our coach tried his best to give you that game. ASU punted one time the entire game, it felt like ASU could do what ever it wanted on offense.

[@stresxkid_]

I agree with point as I was at the game and YELLING why we didn't take the points, but his post-game conference explained why he did it. It still would be a 3 score game and he was banking that BYU won't make the come back and well, they kind of did. Just shows a little bit of immaturity on Kenny's decision making...my only true criticism this year to be honest. Also, Skattebo...my dawg...if you have a true-breed mustang and he's running like madman, keep feeding him the ball until they can stop him lol.

[@elche1976]

This. ASU has done* this several times this season. He doesn't care about style points. More about just giving the other team less chances or time to get back* in it... which ironically usually lets them back in it. ASU had them locked up on offense and defense in the first. First drive of the second, byu has no answers. So they just stop hammering it down and they go into a zone prevent and byu suddenly comes to life. Play the entire game life the first instead of changing and its a comfortable win.

[@jbrock8596]

Yes, ASU coaching was as responsible as BYU for having this game even be close

[@mattrollman13]

Dude, I’m telling you right now, that ball does not get picked if Lassiter actually runs his route full speed. He completely half assed his route like he didn’t believe he was ever getting the ball on that play. He runs his route that hits him in the hands.

[@YadreLevu]

Did the ball not go behind his head?

[@brandonl2555]

@@YadreLevuno it was in front of him.

[@brandonl2555]

This! I’m sick of the Retzlaff shade when this is clearly not his fault. He put the ball whenever it needed to go, but Lassiter gave up on the play before it started

[@mattrollman13]

@@YadreLevu nope, it was out in front of him over his outstretched arms. You gotta watch it again and see his effort, it was piss poor, Jake woulda hit him if he actually ran the route full speed

[@thomasb5828]

I’m so tired of these late season collapses. Each of the last three season BYU football loses focus and drops winnable games. I love Kalani but he has a serious problem keeping his players focused. I don’t understand how when you literally have everything to play for you have a bad week of practice and lay an egg at home. Then follow that up with just straight up not showing up for the first half of one of the biggest games BYU has played in years. If you listen to the post game press conference, Kalani sounds like a coach that just doesn’t have answers…much like the end of the last couple seasons. Really disappointed.

[@SarahFearnley958]

How does the team just not show up for the two biggest games of the season?! It’s so frustrating to watch them do this every year. Losing while playing your best is one thing, but not bothering to show up for the entire 4 quarters of a game is another. BYU just seems to start coasting on autopilot about halfway through the season for some reason.

[@ThereelBR]

Im being hard on ARod and Retzlaff because I stongly believe that if BYU doesn't upgrade (even moderately) at those two spots then this is the best you'll possibly get. But, lets not give Jay Hill a pass in thia one. Hes gameplan was garbage, no way ASU should have scored 21 in the first half.

[@mtanner5168]

Jake - Did Sitake really say that the refs called an unsportsmanlike penalty on the last second only to have the conference say the penalty would not be enforced? Is this common that the conference has input in real time??? Sitake referenced it in his postgame remarks but I may not be following what he said. I understand we lost, but am more curious how the system works.

[@bryanhamilton5904]

Found out from the announcers that this was like Notre Dame all over again. He was too banged up to throw well last week and instead of resting him up they refused to play the backup and he got that big INT

[@dirkpalmer1067]

Sitake said, "The Conference" weighed in telling refs no penalty for delay of game, etc. So hmm.

[@curtisjasper8684]

I am so tired of BYU falling apart at the end of the season. Seemed like no focus for the first half. Why can’t the coaches makes changes, adjustments during the play and only at the half ? It seems like we are out coached regularly in these games. Why do our player report that the competition made charges that we couldn’t adjust to ? Why didn’t we come up with adjustments that other teams have to adjust to? Out coached!1

[@KirkTingey]

BYU is an enigma. Have they put together just one complete game? Offense and defense did not show up first half. Retzlaff returning to play next year is not encouraging.

[@ThereelBR]

Agreed, they need to upgrade at QB (and OC) otherwise next year is probably a 6-8 win season at best.

[@joncarling5031]

Yeah let’s just go get a top 5 QB and a top 5 OC that fit in at a religious school that doesn’t do NIL like Georgia or Alabama Notre Dame or any of another top 10 school. That s a piece of cake 😂

[@ThereelBR]

@@joncarling5031 who said anything about BYU needing a top 5 anything? What a weak argument lol.

[@joncarling5031]

@ If you want to be better than top 10 you don’t go after less than Top 5-maybe you think top 20 is good enough-2or 3 plays different and BYU is top 10 with the same prices in place right now-go ahead and gamble with a change-not a good bet to make. Does that need more explanation?

[@KirkTingey]

I have no idea what you are talking about

[@samrockwood8355]

Can someone tell me why, with the game on the line, the pass before the INT Jojo just watches the ball hit the ground? Wasn't that bad of a pass, if he sticks his arms out or dives that could be a first and goal. He gave up.

[@PBKmcbain]

If BYUs players had just been a little bit more aware during that pooch punt vs Kansas and the onside kick vs Arizona State, BYU would still be undefeated… 😢

[@justinkiggins3106]

Retzlaff could have hit JoJo Phillips when he was open by 6 yards for a walk in TD

[@jimoden7774]

I might remind everyone that this season is NOT OVER. If BYU wins over Houston and Arizona beats AZ State, we’re in the Championship game. Otherwise, please take a deep breath and be honest: if in August you were told that on November 24th BYU would be 9-2 and in a 4-way-tie (and Utes are not part of this group) for first place in the Big 12, you would take it. Happy Holidays!

[@cardcollector0385]

Jake looked better than last weekend, but A-Rod needs to go because the play calling last week and this week 🦨‼️

[@outsideview9052]

Something has to change with the offense. I like most of the coaches so would a new offensive Consultant/Advior/co Offensive Coordinator position work? Probably not but something has to be done.

[@ThereelBR]

ARod must go. It's long overdue.

[@outsideview9052]

@@ThereelBR But how do you justify a big change like that when BYU has over achieved this year? Statistically and many other ways they have done very well. They probably won a couple of games that they should have lost but they also lost these last two games that they should have won. For people who want ARod fired, just remember that things could definitely be / get a lot worse. If BYU fans cheer on the opposing teams why dont they cheer on their own team equally.

[@ThereelBR]

@outsideview9052 By recognizing that they have won for years in spite of ARod not because of him. One season does not an OC make. He was terrible last year to in the five game losing streak that lost BYU a bowl game.

[@DGZGSGEGIGKG]

Jake, I’ve had the same observation. When the situation calls for a great player BYU has a good player in Retzlaff. Great kid, great story, but he’s not consistent enough to be great at football.

[@mochan1357]

What we learned is that we are not CFP ready… yet.

[@marblerunadventures4351]

Why are coaches going for 4th and 5 at midfield on the first series of a game? Boneheaded coaching decisions happening every game and never improves.

[@princenikoli]

They have done it all year and we have a 75% conversation rate on 4th down conversions. Its BYU's style of play

[@MarcosReyesMD]

Glasker amazing. Offensive front line not good.

[@zedalvea841]

Hey! this was the other half of the Baylor game earlier this season.

[@dalecash2236]

Allowing one miss-handled onside kick to lead to ASUs third TD in the first half was the difference.

[@shanemeyer7989]

FARMAGEDDON!!!!! 🌪

[@aBrewster29]

It starts with the line play. First half we had no push on offense or defense. Especially when they’ve got a guy like Cam Skattebo, if the line gets a two yard push and he falls forward for three, that’s close to an automatic 5-yard play, and BYU couldn’t stop it. Meanwhile, LJ’s getting hit in the backfield. Jake’s right, it’s a game of inches.

[@ben_is_tall]

Did anyone else feel like Sitake’s postgame conference was too upbeat? I get the whole “love and learn” philosophy, but it seemed like he just lost a scrimmage rather than the most important game so far in his entire coaching tenure.

[@malaw514]

This was the 5th game where the defense forced just 1 punt. Over half of forced punts this season came against Wyoming and Southern Illinois and Utah bottom 100 offenses. Pointed out several times throughout the season how dealing on turnovers is not sustainable. As detrimental as BYU’s third down conversion rate on offense has been… it has been equally bad on the defensive end, especially on third and long. Our defensive line has very little depth and has worn down over the season. With most of those dudes graduating expect that to be the main focus of the transfer portal. In fact both sides of line will be emphasized in the portal.

[@malaw514]

Can’t stand my fellow BYU fans at this point. Calling for jobs, and transfers. Can we talk Arod and what he has done? Zach Wilson and Jaren Hall are in the NFL in large part because of AROD, he’s taken a Juco transfer qb who was projected as the worst qb in the big 12 and is now considered top 3 and is top 5 in yards, touchdowns etc. Arod went through the first third of the season without his top 3 running backs… ran an offense with a gimmick running game. BYU has spent most of the season as top 2 in the big 12 in points per game. Who the hell are you hiring? And assuming they are better and more talented who the hell would take an OC job after a dude gets fired after a 10 win season? The level of assistant y’all asking for would have options, and it wouldn’t be here. Guess what BYU has the 5th ranked recruiting class in the big 12. Utah is 12th by the way… what side of the ball are the studs in that class and recent classes playing? Two 4 stars on the Oline… WR… our last classes have had studs TE. Guess what happens when coordinators leave… you loose recruits. Who the hell is walking through that door? Hopefully someone who will smack some sense into this goddamn entitled community. Disgusting. Sitaki is a freaking Saint for putting up with this shit.

[@davidwelker6499]

Let's be honest here Jake. BYU despite having played few complete games this year was sitting at #6 and in full control of their destiny. 2 chokes and they are about to lose their last 4 games of the season if they don't get their act together. The OLine rebounded briefly under Mitchell but we are back to a hapless OLine that can't run block and struggles to block three while the opponent drops 8...

[@jameshumphreys1936]

Why doesn’t BYU’s Aaron Roderick understand that coming out strong “like you’re losing” in the first half? There just seems to be no killer instinct by putting on a full throttle offense starting with the first set of downs. Like I said in my last post….you gotta score 35 points, in most cases, to win games and win them big. Take some of that pressure off on your D and play the game from the first play like you are a rabid cornered cougar.

[@jeffnelson7669]

I was screaming at the tv and threw my hat at it at o e point in the first half. No talk of penalty this penalty that. They were bad. Aaron Roderick???? Oh my. If…Retzlaff was healthy you should have run the RPO more than the o e time I remember in the first half. It was horrific. This team now has an identity. Suck for a half adjust and play a great second half. That is what the last three straight of joy more games. So fed up with this. I do t care if we were o my expected to win 4-5 games.

[@sotl97]

Let's just call it how it is. This one was ALL on Retzlaff. He's just not playing well. That pick at the end of the game was just completely ridiculous. That is a pass he needs to make, that would have gone for at least 25 yards. Setting them up with 1st down inside the 20. So freaking frustrating, this QB play we are getting. He lost both their games in combination with ARod's horrific play calling.

[@alext3102]

They came in not ready again, no fire on this team anymore. All on the coaches again!

[@MarcosReyesMD]

Squandered opportunity. There was a chance to really change the course of BYU football. Like it or not this is not a club, this is a business. Someone’s responsible and changes should be made.

[@Nowsthetime21]

AROD PROBLEM! This was not a team problem…Arod ruined the the potentially best season BYU has ever had… It came down to one man, not the players… Complete insanity. They are even thinking about keeping this guy. Unbelievable

[@natesj6105]

It is a game of inches, thats why complaining about three 15 yard penality which where blatantly obviously NOT called is justified. And referres should be addressed by the admin properly. Also the addressment needs to be public so favortism doesnt happen next game or into the rankings.

[@davenichols4352]

Coaching has issues on offense. In the end. BYU gas had a great year but they are not a championship team. In the our qb picks continue to kill any hope. The

[@JohnnyRocksUFO]

Has BYU played a full game yet this season? At some point you have to look at coaches who are not picking the right players that can execute for a full game, or are not preparing a game plan to put the players in a good position to succeed. It’s sad the defense has kept the team in every game, even with injuries yet the team is in their yearly Kalani-era collapse. This team needs some major offensive changes. And dude, I’m pretty sure Retzlaff’s mistakes lost the game no matter what PFF says. Reltzlaff is statistically good with no pressure, and one of the worst in CFB with pressure. He was so inaccurate today, and worse couldn’t move the chains for an entire half, while throwing into 3rd and 9 double covered post routes with a wide open running back standing at the chains. And who is responsible for calling the post route on the first play from scrimmage in every game? It was awesome when it worked at Baylor months ago but every person on the planet is expecting it and it’s probably going to be covered. 😂

[@cbphoto87]

NIL contributions to the team that knocks off ISU or ASU!

[@shanemeyer7989]

Lol good luck.

[@elche1976]

Bwahaha

[@toyolla86]

A bunch of tiny mistakes from players and coaches and they win. They had no business even being in this game.

[@elche1976]

🙄

[@kendalldean9612]

Byu hasnt been prepared to play in the last two games. This is a coaching and leadership problem. Sad to see the team fall on its face at the end of the season when they should be playing their best ball. Final game will be a lame duck game.......K Stare has nothing to really play for. AZ state wont lose. Its over. 2 rotten games and the dream season us over.

[@princenikoli]

I put this on the players right. 1 game of kids not being ready, sure, the coaches didn't get them up, but 3 games in a row, thats on the payers not getting themselves mentally ready. Go find the halftime speech from Tyler Batty. What happened in the second half was because of player leadership and not coaching.

[@joncarling5031]

Sorry-not all BYU fans, players, or coaches are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. When BYU loses lots of non-Mormons lose too. Only a real loser would post that comment 😂

[@timjacobsen3141]

Fire….AROD…..please!!!!!!

[@ralphwiggam7630]

"BYu-p fans are used to great quarterbacks" Great QBs? Or the appearance of great success by running up the score against lesser competition? Zach Wilson managed to smoke and mirror his was to the #3 pick. He only played one tough opponent his entire final season at BYu-p. The game was against Corral Carolina ... which he lost. He then becomes famous for sacking himself multiple times, sleeping with his mom's friends, and gets run out of town ... Karen Hall already got bounced out of the NFL too. Taysom Hill is such a great QB he managed to stay on a NFL roster as a special teams player ... so long as he never gets to throw the ball ... Maybe if you go back to Max Hall you'll find this "greatness" ... or is Max still shoplifting in his BYu-p shirt to pay for his coke habit? Hmmmmmm ... where exactly are all these great QBs?

[@jbrock8596]

You sound like a hater

[@joncarling5031]

Oh that’s right Jim McMahon and Steve Young were mediocre at best and never won any superbowls.

[@scottrichardson3961]

No playoff for the mormons