BYU Football's 'Stolen' Rivalry Win Was Much More Than That With Utah's Copium | BYU Cougars Podcast

[@hendrickbuckway232]

I’m an Utah fan I don’t believe the game was stolen from us. It disappoints me so much to see how Utah is acting towards this conference. BYU is a great university and I have a ton of respect for it

[@browneyedgirlgb]

Thanks for saying this! I really believe there are a lot of Utah fans out there who feel similarly to you.

[@byuftbl]

I’m glad there’s Utah fans that realize this. The only people who stole the game from Utah was our defense, we shut Utah down fair and square that second half. Because Jay Hill is a brilliant defensive coach. He knew how to adjust his defense, and he did. The other who stole the game was the Utah player who decided that holding would be a good idea.

[@clayfullmer]

It's unfortunate that Utah didn't do much to secure the win. They had it.

[@jerheck]

​@@byuftbl Trevor Matich on BYU sportsnation broke down the hold call and felt that the hold was necessary to save Utah from likely giving up a touchdown to BYU. Just noting the most interesting take I saw on it.

[@spencerthomason6558]

Most of us Utah fans do not believe anything was stolen. Heartbreaking, yes. Most of us had planned to leave by halftime. Very happy for how Utah's Defense, our punter, and offense performed (offense for 1st half). Congratulations on your win, but don't think it's all of us. As with most things, it's a small, loud, passionate, ignorant minority.

[@byuftbl]

You should be proud of your first half performance too. Had that continued, BYU probably would be on the other end of this right now. You completely punked us in the first half.

[@hennore]

What I loved about our team is that we don’t stoop to their level; i.e., Utah kept jawing at our players and were excessive after the whistle, while our guys were picking up theirs. Great sportsmanship! We have to remember that we’re supposed to be the missionary arm of the Church and football has been that this year. Way to go boys! 🙏🏾

[@caleblarsen5490]

The boys in blue were jawing just as much as the team up north.

[@laddlish]

@@caleblarsen5490absolutely not

[@caleblarsen5490]

@@laddlish did you watch the game? They totally were! It went both ways in this game. Yes, BYU helped guys up after hits, but there was an awful lot of talking smack going both ways.

[@laddlish]

@ of course I watch the game so why are you being condescending? You must be an Utah fan. I’m sure that BYU players responded to the jawing that they were getting from the get Go it was mostly Utah. I’ve watched all of their five losses in a row and they were talking in one of them. If they would play as hard as they talk, they would maybe win a game or two?

[@caleblarsen5490]

@@laddlish when BYU and Utah play, I root for BYU. . . and everyone who plays against Utah for the rest of the year. But the BYU boys jaw just as much as the Utah boys. Go watch the game back. There's a lot of talking, and BYU started some of it. Get the blue goggles off and actually watch what is going on.

[@individualsovereign603]

Wouldn't it be nice to have a job where a $40,000 fine is the cost equivalent of a minor traffic violation for most Americans.

[@jdpackard3921]

silly comment. This is approximately 5% of his annual pay. I'm not in ANY way condoning his moronic comments. But your assertion is dumb.

[@forzatuner3916]

​@jdpackard3921 not a single like?

[@bryandmckinnon5975]

@@jdpackard3921he is way overpaid.

[@MegaPainLove]

@@jdpackard3921, 5% seems like a lot when you don’t have room in your budget. I couldn’t afford a fine equal to 5% of my annual salary, but this guy will still have ~$950,000 to live off this year (assuming you are correct about 40,000 being 5% of his annual salary). Unless he’s a moron, he could be fined 4-5 more times and still be ok. So yeah, about the same as a traffic ticket for most Americans.

[@byuftbl]

Huh?? I’ve never got a speeding ticket that was anywhere close to even 1% of my salary (which definitely is not anywhere NEAR Utah’s AD)

[@criticalhadlock886]

How about Will Ferrin’s tackle on that kick return? That was awesome 👏🏻

[@merlebyu1]

It was a hold, game was not stolen. Did they play great? No. They did find a way to win the game. That is what counts.

[@cts7648]

Keelan marions kick return was insane. How often do guys get 2 in one year?

[@peterbeckman1476]

I'd also give a huge shout out to Marque Collins. Played great on Singer and had some clutch PBUs throughout

[@RahbB-kr3lm]

My University was a legacy Big & Big 12 school. We are in the Big 2 now, but I still like to follow the Big 12. I am thankful the Big 12 was able to have the first four join them to save it. I was good with all the four corners except I did not think Big 12 needed Utah. After Saturday’s Utah immaturity petulance and condescension toward the Big 12 my fears are realized. It would be great if the Big 12 could jettison Utah back to PAc 12, and bring in UConn. As for BYU, I was for BYU joining back in 2011. BYU has been nothing but class act as a conference mate. Congratulations BYU on your season and I hope you take care of Colorado, I was not a CU fan in Big 8 or Big 12, so take it to them. I definitely enjoy your beating that whining incompetent petulant Utah team.

[@briancrismonpetersen7885]

Great stuff Jake! K-Pop is worth so much to BYU!

[@mrisaax1747]

Wild way to reignite the rivalry. I’m a 20 year old student at BYU right now and I have been waiting my whole life for The Holy War rivalry to get back up to the level it was at in the 80’s, 90’s and early 2000’s. I’m super excited but we can only hope both sides keep it classy and don’t blame losses on the refs (Both of which Harlan seems to be incapable of doing).

[@hjohnson966]

I kinda wish Utah had scored only for the unsportsmanship penalty to undo it. That would have been hilarious. Mark Harlan would be directly responsible for Utah's loss by being a baby, and he'd have no one to blame but himself.

[@briancrismonpetersen7885]

Yes! Crazy to learn later that the “Utah bench” unsportsmanlike conduct call was because their AD was on the field. Even if he said nothing after, it would have been bad. As it is… it’s not good.

[@Phantomofosaka]

You have to believe that the BIG 10 saw Utah's AD, and wonder if it would impact any future invite to join. It was ugly at the end. I did enjoy the slight smile that Sitake gave when snubbed by Whittingham for the post-game handshake

[@BradyMyrup]

Sitake and whittingham actually hugged at midfield. BUT instead of talking to sitake and catching up, he immediately got in the refs face😂

[@lukehoff3623]

@@BradyMyrupthey’ve been doing promo all week for the game and honestly wouldn’t surprise me if they get lunch regularly and stay in touch

[@criticalhadlock886]

I wonder how many recruits Utah had at that game. 😳 I can’t imagine many recruits were excited about suiting up for the Utes after the post game spectacle that they witnessed first-hand 😜

[@JaredConover-zy4wk]

They said about 70

[@XIN3OHd]

I also want to shout out Marque Collin’s. Utah didn’t want to throw at Jakob Robinson at all, but tried to pick on Collin’s a few times and he came up with some excellent pass break ups and tight coverage, not to mention the absolutely bone crushing TFL in the second half. It’s so nice having great cornerbacks.

[@johndotter351]

Can't really complain when you get caught on a holding call if you got away with it the previous 9 out 10 times. Heck in the first half BYU got called for a facemask called by the Refs that was just a inadvertent elbow up by the facemask that led to a following TD for Utah But that what's happens in football being a contact emotional sport especially in a physical ravalry game like the Holy War.

[@roywall8169]

Now we know who the Utah captain was talking about last week. The problem with Utah is their leadership. The AD and HC having tantrums post game, is an indictment on the level of professionalism on the hill.

[@BoEkingster]

Yes, Ferin is a stud.... its refreshing to have a legitimate kicker

[@dannydrew3685]

Well done as always!

[@jasongibbons1230]

Distractions aside, the offensive play calling, the clock management, and the inability of defense to put any pressure on a first time starting quarterback are major areas of concern that better get major attention this week if we want to beat some of the tough opponents we have left on the schedule.

[@mortarconn]

Solid takes. Completely agree!

[@malaw514]

All this stolen bs is taking away from the players. No talk of BYUs defense shutting out the Utes in the second half or holding them to 10 yards combine in the Utes last three drives. No talk about Chase Robert’s diving incredible catch to flip the field in the last minute. No talk about Hinkley the Helicopter running it not only into field goal range but going airborne into the 25. No one is talking about how crazy Utahs front seven is and how miraculous it is that Jake Retzlaff is alive. Only Jake is talking about Bruce Mitchell. No one is talking about Jatta replacing Keim and holding his own in his first significant minutes of the season. Nah it’s about Harlan and Whitt. A couple of petty kids.

[@RahbB-kr3lm]

Next year in Provo BYU boosters should hand out 2” square red crying towels with a picture of Harlan one side and Whitt on the other to all attendees… maybe even supply a safe room and child counselors for the Utah fans and administrators.

[@caitlinspratling365]

This blows my mind that even if Utah had scored on the return, it would have been negated! I was sooo nervous that Utah would run it back because why not, this is the craziest game without fail!

[@malaw514]

BYU could go all the way through the CCG and CFP and not see another DT like Tanuvasa. Utahs front 7 was so impressive.

[@jessehayes486]

One thing for certain, BYU AD would never act like Utah's AD. Just another reason I'm a BYU fan.

[@Ultrarunner41]

Shut up! You’re annoying. Nobody wants you to be a Ute anyways

[@kdeltatube]

I think we have to give props to the fans in the stadium, just watching on TV that place was electric It was intense. I can only imagine if I was a player that might rattle you a little bit. And props to the BYU fans who made their presents known also

[@michaeljhuntsman]

When is it a good idea to drink and be a fan at a football game? MADD MADF 😊

[@varrick1226]

BYU has been a nice addition to the Big 12 while Utah has been a nightmare. The Big 12 saved their school they would never get into the Big 10 that's for sure. Let Utah go to the Pac 12 hahaha!

[@davem3048]

Uh... I think Utah just branded themselves the most hated team in the Big12.

[@richgerow3472]

Ohh, they did that as soon as their fans said they were, "Too good for the truck-stop conference." Everything else at this point just digs the hole deeper.

[@jmean8665]

clearly a hold that directly affected the play. the WR's shoulder gets turned and dips down WHILE the QB is reading him. FIRE Harlan. we don't need punk bass itches punching down on ppl.

[@DerekHarper-w9h]

great analysis. Hope the coaching staff learned a few lessons.

[@victorsauvageau8708]

It's awesome to have it back especially where BYU has now won 3 in a row welcome to the big 12 Utah alot better that the Waco I mean pac 12

[@kadebuchanan4166]

Anybody else have PTSD watching BYU lineup on that game winning field goal?

[@sambena]

BYU has some weaknesses, they aren't perfect on offense. Their defense can seem inconsistent. But these are the reasons why people are saying BYU is a team destiny. Something divine is helping BYU do what they are doing.

[@byuftbl]

I like to think it’s my cousin who was a HUGE BYU fan that passed away earlier this year has a hand in it. I don’t know if that’s how things work, but I’m just gonna say it is him.

[@mrp4242]

Stop it. It’s stuff like this that is cringey. When BYU was 5-7 last season was it because they were being “wicked”. Please.

[@Brutici]

@@mrp4242 divine doesn't have anything to do with how they are being

[@Mike-aka747]

Nothing was stolen. BYU is just the better team. Good of Yormark to slap them where it counts for the 4 yr old tantrums. Classless program and fans(majority of them At least, there are some decent ones in my defense lol)

[@NickoBaggins]

The majority are just fine, don't get carried away.

[@timjacobsen3141]

Utah is about lose all of the remainder of their football games after starting the season 4-0.

[@elijahhodges4405]

Excellent photograph of Mark Harmon out on the field.

[@MarshJohn]

U should realize one thing: What they acted or said would have an impact on National brand. Good luck on it! I used to cheer for U when U played against teams other than BYU. Now, U loses my respect . I know they don’t care my support but I still want to express my frustration about U. Btw, do U fans know that the ASU QB who won over U applied to be U QB but was rejected by U? HC and AD need to leave U program.

[@Justwonguy]

It’s so interesting, ive watched just about every locked on relating to the big 12 this year. In all the videos I’ve heard and read constantly hate about how bad Utah and their fanbase is. What I’ve never seen in the comment section, however, is Utah fans being anything but respectful.

[@scottparkin4439]

If Mr. Harlan believes UofU is too good for the Big 12, I suggest take his ball and go wherever he will feel properly valued (if they'll have him), cuz we in the Big 12 have no interesting in operating in the dazzling brilliance of his awesome awesomeness. Jack@ss.

[@mortarconn]

Will Ferrin - MVP of the game!

[@kurtneumiller1667]

BYU is right now in the top 10 in college football rankings the next 3 games All BYU wins. Which by the end of the Houston game which BYU wins BYU will be either #3 or #4 in the college football rankings. I'm calling it right now BYU #4 in college football rankings after the Houston game.

[@hjohnson966]

I don't know, Kansas has cleaned up, they're winning games convincingly now, and Arizona Strate is playing fantastic too. BYU doesn't have a guaranteed undefeated season yet.

[@kurtneumiller1667]

Kansas is at Provo. BYU has not lost a game at home especially not a night game at home. But they Kansas did beat Iowa State so it's any ones game on Saturday and if AZ state beats KS state then yes BYU is up for a challenge

[@michaeljhuntsman]

Humility and having an underdog mentality is the best mindset

[@XIN3OHd]

None of the remaining games will be easier than Arizona or UCF. They’re all in the Baylor range in terms of how much difficulty we had playing them, some maybe closer to OKST or Utah than Baylor.

[@alextemus]

The dude is getting paid over $1 million this year, and this fine equates to exactly 0% of his salary because universities almost always pay these fines for their employees.

[@jasonandrews9617]

Another star of the game on the defensive side: Was that Mory Bamba with multiple acrobatic deflections that would otherwise have resulted in big Utah gains?

[@richardbarrow4620]

My brother played for BYU in the early 60s. The rivalry was as hot then as it is now. BYU needs to stop playing into Sunday morning.

[@dirkpalmer1067]

It has to do when Sunday is actually observed. Sheesh.

[@GekkoGeemu]

1. BYU doesn’t pick the kickoff time 2. BYU has had a lot of late kickoffs in recent memory because during independence they unfortunately played a lot of badly ranked teams. 3. The kickoff time was late because Utah has played so poorly year.

[@kendalldean9612]

Please lets just forget abiut clown Harlan. BYU better focus on Kansas or they will get beat. Kansas is starting to play very well.

[@brettallen1440]

I agree, great way to scratch and claw to a rivalry win. Now onto the next. One game at a time, Yewts are in the rear view mirror.

[@copisetic1104]

There is so much animosity between Utah and BYU. I think the rivalry should stop. It doesn’t produce anything positive.

[@mattcannon5353]

I like Baker, but he displayed some defensive breakdowns. Some were “lack of effort” or giving up on the play. Others were him getting lost in the defensive rotations. He can shoot it for sure, but Dallin is a better defender.

[@roywall8169]

I agree, the guard line off the bench is not good enough. Baker is off to a horrendous start.

[@thomasb5828]

Clock management was horrible under the Ed Lamb era. I was always extremely critical of KS about this. However this season it has been improved vastly. The end of the first half was rough, along with the beginning of the second but I see that more as a one off and not the trend. Look at the time management at the end of the game for proof.

[@NathanDalebout]

Harlan is an absolute clown 🤡. No self control

[@joshellisd]

So I have tried to join Fan dual and other betting apps and they always says my state blocks them. I know all of locked on big 12 uses those advertisements

[@victorsauvageau8708]

I give props to utahs defense that's it though

[@Sb4500washington]

But is the fine to him personally? Or is it to the Utah athletic department? I’d assume the latter… so then the fine is meaningless cause they have millions of dollars in their budget

[@richharkness5942]

Stolen by the officials. You are right it was 5 holdings by little brothers OL holding every DLman and they still offset. The Ute players were in shock their win was stolen so byu wouldn't get leapfrogged by Boise St. But payback is a bitch to Kansas at home little brother.

[@michcoug]

Sorry but your take on Mitchell is just silly. Bruce has played lights out since Pay went down, so much so that the actual backup center is not making the reads and snaps. Setting aside your man crush on Pay and the fact that you played O line in High School, there is zero evidence that Pay would have performed any better against what the Utah D was throwing at them Saturday night. Mitchell has transitioned seamlessly into the position which he had never played before and is a large piece of this win streak.

[@roywall8169]

Yes, the mass subs needs to go away!

[@DavidBrown-pp5tt]

We saw what Utah’s character really is. Arrogant fools thinking the success in the Pac 12 was really that important. While BYU being left out went 5-0 against the PAC 12 two years ago. Utah will become irrelevant in the state and around the country in the near future. Mostly benefiting from band wagon fans and playing in an over rated conference. Kyle was fed some karma for his hatred. At least he won’t have to wear the curdle on the sidelines anymore… If the Big 10 come looking it won’t be the second market share team up north. This season was critical for the Utes and it just blew up in their face.

[@DowneyCal]

It's disappointing to see such a dismissive and disrespectful take on the Utes. While they've faced challenges this season, particularly on the offensive side, their defensive prowess has kept them competitive. It's clear that they're going through a transitional period, but underestimating their ability to bounce back is a mistake. The Utes have a rich history of success, and they will undoubtedly return to form. As for the Pac-12, it's unfair to discredit the conference based on a few years of perceived weakness. Teams like Oregon have proven their dominance on the national stage, and the conference has consistently produced top-tier talent. Additionally, Colorado's strong performance in the Big 12 this year further underscores the quality of the Pac-12. It's a testament to the high level of competition that the conference has consistently provided. It's important to judge teams and conferences based on their overall body of work, not just a single season.

[@RahbB-kr3lm]

Yormark went so easy on Harlan. Not a good look for Yormark.

[@joelharris3389]

Intituled punk! That's a State Employee! How does that work? He get's the State of Utah citizens to cover his A**? Can we take him to court?

[@jacehelean1]

It’s not just a two game win streak, Utah forfeited in 2020. BYU win streak is now up to #threeinarow

[@elezraita]

I grew up a BYU fan. I went to Utah because my family was too poor for me to fill out the BYU application, let alone move to Provo. I had to live at home. That said, this is the kind of bullshit I’ve seen every year from the time I was first old enough to understand spoken language until Utah left the MWC and I moved to Wisconsin for grad school. Every year it’s the same thing. There were missed calls. The fans were “classless” (I don’t think that word means what you think it means). When Utah wins, BYU fans and players whine like little bitches. When BYU wins, Utah fans and players whine like little bitches. Who cares? Maybe those fans who are too young or have the capacity of an avocado to store long term memory will be surprised by this. It’s a bitter rivalry and it always has been. Even more so when the two teams have been in the same conference. Perhaps living for a decade in Big 10 country has tempered my emotion regarding the annual crusade. I used to care a lot about this game. I can’t be bothered anymore. We have way bigger problems in this country than who wins a football game that very few will remember a month from now. Just enjoy the damned game and move on.

[@boydcolton1498]

And the taxpayers will pay it

[@victorsauvageau8708]

I'm sorry and a lot of people may disagree but I do not like kalani sitake get a better head coach.

[@robertroberts3885]

It is one call because that one call was made on 4th down

[@byuftbl]

Well then Utah’s player shouldn’t have held. You don’t get a pass because it’s 4th down. If you hold, you hold.

[@tomjones4805]

Talk all you want, we saw the play, and it was a no call, and from here on out the Cougars are worthless! Cheaters don't prosper and history will proof this fact! Pitiful how anyone can call this a penalty, or maybe your just to dumb to know the rules!

[@LittleC24]

Did you send this to BYU, big 12, and NCAA? I’m sure they would love to hear your great take.

[@XIN3OHd]

Maybe you’ll feel better after a nap

[@byuftbl]

SORE LOSER!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 BYU 22-21. Deal with it!!!!!

[@Brutici]

there is a clear angle that shows it was holding