#2 Intermediate Player Tutorial - Emperor China - Civilization Vi Rise and Fall

[@expo6545]

As someone seriously struggling with making the jump from King to Emperor, I really appreciate this series you have going. Watching you plan that defense against France was great, please keep it up!

[@reinpurgiel6758]

Thank you so much for these series. Explaining your thoughts and going through all the turns giving random little tips really helps.

[@SonAlexander]

Watching you play makes me realize how much there is to this game and how little I know about Civ 6...

[@robink6420]

I am eager to see how the endgame in a Cultural Victory looks like. I think i do understand the game pretty well up until Renaissance/Industrial Era. But up from there i just do random stuff and dont really know what to do next, since most tutorial runs end there. Keep up the great work! :)

[@bucknut4lyf]

Since watching your videos I've gone from losing most of my games, to winning or close to it most of the time. Thanks dude, I've learned a ton from watching you. I never used the forests and jungles like this until seeing you do it.

[@abeke5523]

Potato, if you did not know, it has been patched so that cities are able to shoot even though a forest or a hill is in front of them. I think it's because troops in the city stand on top of its walls, which is technically equivalent to standing on top of a hill.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

don't think I saw that patch note

[@abeke5523]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey I don't exactly know what patch it was, I have just come across with this random reddit post www.reddit.com/r/civ/comments/92ejtp/civ_6_did_a_patch_allow_cities_to_fire_over_hills/ It says 5 months ago, so I am guessing it was Spring 2018 update

[@charlesdean2781]

Out of all your videos, this series was one of the most helpful. Thank you.

[@maccaruso]

20K subscribers, not too shabby. Not to shabby at all. Congrats!

[@ninjastarz7]

Mohendjo-Daro's suzerian bonus is full housing, yes? Putting in the envoys early would have definitely helped your northern city grow much faster and makes the granary unnecessary. Settling next to the wonder wine with the best city state in the game and overflowing into Petra is definitely the play imo. Walls defend the city and relations with your other neighbors are good. Plus forcing Petra is always fun!

[@veganusfries875]

I love these series I don’t have civ 6 but I still enjoy these vids I’m too poor for civ 6, I hope u upload more vids!

[@maxnicely8926]

It's free right now on Epic Games Store btw. Till Thursday. I'd imagine you'd have the game by now.

[@Wayne-yk6um]

loving these series, learning so much ty potato

[@jameul363]

I always watch these types of videos and notice the people spending time noticing what is happening and micromanaging, but when I play I for some reason forget all of that and spam next turn, to make things quicker

[@Wayne-yk6um]

@@jameul363 i do exacly the same bro lmao

[@valamaas]

First time i have slowed down the speed to 0.75. Fast talking, thinking. Not a complaint. Just funny. Enjoying. (Also, you were scrambling around to reach a normal age but you had already achieved it!) 36:20

[@eduardo3652]

In the nick of time, I thought passing on that Great Scientist was gonna get you!

[@leefizzy1]

The Matterhorn national park is impossible because both cities have an unswappable tile because it's adjacent to the city center of the other, not sure if you realized it later on

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Yes

[@tillydavvers]

I feel like I can never get my emp7re this developed so early because I'm constantly swarmed by barbarians even on Prince. I feel like every video of yours I watch you are super lucky with getting very few barbarians early on! I will never get this good as long as I can't beat the barbarians xD

[@acedrow]

Loving this series so far. Keep it up!

[@eduardo3652]

Thank you Potato! Due to your videos I'm making the jump from Emperor to Immortal. Thank the civ gods for Seondeok!

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Good luck!

[@abeke5523]

I never played as Korea, is she actually OP?

[@eduardo3652]

@@abeke5523 If you beeline science she is very powerful. Just make sure you generate a hilly map (raise the sea level).

[@abeke5523]

@@eduardo3652 I think that's the world age setting, not sea level. The sea level setting changes the amount of water in your map. And yeah, I actually looked up Korea in civilopedia, its unique district is very powerful. +4 science per turn for free. And it's also cheaper than normal campus.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Korea is easily one of the strongest civs

[@michaeldarch9715]

God damn it Potato! Im ill at the moment, imma need you to crank out 1 of these bad boys every couple of hours

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I can do that but I need to be at home! :)

[@Jondiceful]

If you made a list of things to do or areas of gameplay to improve upon for those of use struggling with the transition to emperor, what would choose to put on the list? I think we all learned in this episode that one of those things is to "chop", another is check out your neighbors' military assets, and a third is to trade open borders to earn a friendship to prevent wars. What did I miss?

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Having a victory condition in mind early in the game. Being flexible with your game plan. Making sure you are properly defended.

[@Tedisabear]

When ever I play China- I love seeing how long I can make the great wall.

[@Isengardtom]

Nice video And nice to get the normal age in the nick of time Dark age would have been painful

[@Leems19]

Love the civ content!!!

[@OneCreator87]

Thanks man, this really helps a newby like me :) (i just kept repeating the ICS strategy from Civ3)

[@wishbonesi]

Well at least we know that you survive this game until 9th episodes ;)

[@themuaddib]

I still have a feeling the Magnus "Chop VI" meta is going to get the nerf hammer with TGS. Higher levels without chop production are going to be difficult.

[@Doddleran]

"*MSM, *whispers* mainstream media" xD

[@theanarchonazbolinquisition]

Yes, city range is not inhibited in any way by terrain.

[@stuartbirch7815]

I have over 1000 hours on this game, but still cannot get anywhere on Emperor, despite watching your vids. Cannot get enough construction going compared to the AI.

[@Kolkrabbi369]

Could you do a "how to have a higher chance of winning in deity : tips and tricks" episode. That would help alot of people out! Including me :)

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I want to wait until Gathering Storm before I make those sorts of videos. This tutorial series is pretty general conceptyallly

[@Kolkrabbi369]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey i gotchu bro :) also I love the vids bro! from your nr. 1 fan in Iceland

[@matthewlarsen9376]

* m a i n s t r e a m m e d i a *

[@Yuuzhan]

Question : 0:47 Why would you remove a resource like rocks ? Beside for the production ? What is the long term benefit to clear some resources ?

[@DynaCatlovesme]

I have also noticed cities having indirect fire when not expected, but don't find any documentation on it.

[@thomaslenzmeier183]

I thoroughly enjoy your videos! Quick question regarding builders and using them to shorten the time it takes to build wonders. I see that you expedited the building of the Oracle and the Apadana. Is the added production unique to China or do other civs have it too?

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Unique to China

[@ChromeTeck]

Making peace with France and spotting Boston and Washington. Ok then

[@eXistenZ15]

I never got into chopping/harvesting, and I think it is what holds me back. (I think I never harvested a resource) Given the changes in RS, will it still have so much of an impact you think?

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Chopping will almost certainly still be prevalent because it is so valuable, just not as extensive as before, you might leave a few tactical forests here and there

[@jonathanabraham4397]

PotatoMcWhiskey what about the incas

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

@@jonathanabraham4397 What about them?

[@eXistenZ15]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey What about the 3 stone deposits near your cities? You havent touched them, yet if you improved at least one of them, it would have given you quite quite some production over time, no? Are you planning on harvesting them later? Or was it just an oversight?

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

@@eXistenZ15 I'm going to harvest them later so improving them would just be a waste of a builder charge

[@GDKLockout]

Im learning a lot from the series. But i really dont u derstand why you have not scouted to the east?

[@k1ln1k37]

Yeah when and if an AI attacks me my strategy changes to war and I wipe them out completely and make it my sole purpose in the game. Best case scenario for the AI is they get someone perpetually pillaging them the entire game, and that's assuming I let them live.

[@rudyprakom]

for someone playing as much civ as you do, missing the fact that acquiring a great person yield era score as well is kinda worrying. but maybe you just have lots of things on your mind and under some pressure of the dark age that left you completely unaware of the fact, which is understandable.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I know this information

[@DragonChief157]

Watching your video, does it means in higher difficulty its not wise to build a scout first, because i've been building scout first as every civ in every game. Is there more reason to build a slinger first instead of scout to get potential villages as massive benefits?

[@cinrose5001]

I see the other videos of this 9 part series, give it lol.

[@willburn182]

would you do an updated version of this?

[@SourceOfBeing]

Did you turn off the War Declared screen or did I just miss France declaring war?

[@OdinGamingMC]

You missed it

[@Picrasso]

I notice you put your cities fairly close to another. Is it just wise in general or in this particular scenario? I consider myself an average player (playing Emperor on Epic is doable for me) and mostly I try to give my cities some space.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Generally speaking cities do not need a lot of space to thrive.

[@tiagopoletto2648]

Like the series, just don't get why you really ignore amenities... even trading the only ones you have! Isn't that really bad or the early game, with few citizens in each city, makes it worth it getting the gold and other things?

[@wamfaj3423]

Is it still worth it to chop? in gathering storm

[@skylerjelly8116]

Hey, tuning in over a year later, would you still advocate chopping as heavily post expansion?

[@dirt1265]

I was wondering the same thing...

[@peterbarlow7781]

Choppy mcwhisky

[@sajnekmr]

Game look so easy when you play it! "Chop chop chop and in turn 275 you win. Just like that. " Than i think to myself- ok lets to this! BAM! Turn 50. You lose.

[@MrHewlettcraphard]

I'm pretty sure city defenses aren't impeded by terrain. Anyway, thanks for yet another great video.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Yes they are, not the statistics of a citys defense strenght, but how easy/difficult it is to defend a city from a mechanical standpoint from using the terrain.

[@MrHewlettcraphard]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey : Sorry, I should have clarified. I'm pretty sure a city's ability to shoot at range isn't impeded by terrain. ie: being able to shoot over hills or forest (but not mountains).

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

@@MrHewlettcraphard It is affected by terrain. Simplest explanation is that you can't shoot over mountains, just the rules aren't consistent enough to be played around properly.

[@MrHewlettcraphard]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey : As I said, I should have clarified properly. But yeah, just to clarify further, I was referring to 14:25, when you said that Bordeaux shouldn't be able to shoot over a forest. I guess I was just being a bit lazy when I just said "terrain". That's us Aussies for you. LOL

[@Valkeyring]

The rules are consistent. Cities can shoot over anything that is not a mountain. Same for ranged units garrisoned in the city.

[@jtm1283]

I do enjoy this videos, but every time that you call Taiyuan "Taiwan," I die a little.

[@GrimjowJJ]

you're going to have to take out france lol.

[@ernis7010]

at the start of the video you sounded like you ran a mile xd just pointing it out.

[@krustimolu348]

I think you chop too much. Of course it's valuable, but it's hard to know how much. I usually prefer chopping only when I must use that tile for another thing.

[@riche1601]

Lol one of those channels where u ask urself how in the fuck they are not more popular

[@steini9347]

sorry if i'm wrong, but i absolutly can NOT understand some of your decisions. you chop a forest on a wine tile, what brings you 20 production short therm but destroys 1 production per turn for the rest of the game. same with the bananas! thats absolutly stupid! thats no comparison. you should overthink your agenda to chop every single resource you have in your country! chops are useful, if you have another modernization that only can build when you have chopped and gives you more yield after! but just DOWNGRADING a tile for the rest of the game just to get a third of a campus or settler is so stupid... next thing i cant agree with is that ridiculous amount of army you are producing. thats not a defensive army vs cpu, thats an attack army amount! if you dont use those many units to overrun france, its a waste of gold for maintainance. especially with that defensive of terrain you have. your first 2 cities are unattackable, if you have 2 archers. you dont even need those warriors in front of. i would agree your decision in multiplayer, but vs cpu 2 or 3 archers are more than enough!

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

20 Production Now > One production per turn.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Money now is worth more than money later

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I can assure you, if I didn't have this many units I wouldn't be able to defend if france went straight for the city kill. Those units are going to be used later against france, but not now.

[@abeke5523]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey If you have a forest near river, do you chop it? I mean you can turn it into a very productive tile with the lumbermill improvement.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

@@abeke5523 Or I could chop it for production nkw and then make a lumbermil later by planting forests

[@ab11593]

dont want to be mean but your intonation sometimes gets supper annoying. I lover your content, it is amazing. But if you agree about the intonation, mb you could work on that. What I mean is your voice gets higher at the and of the sentence.Cant really explane it. You can hear that on 13:00

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Thats my accent. No plans to change it.

[@ab11593]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey defo not the accent

[@eduardo3652]

First!!!

[@ChromeTeck]

Making peace with France and spotting Boston and Washington. Ok then