#5 Intermediate Player Tutorial - Emperor China - Civilization Vi Rise and Fall

[@michaelrichardson8467]

Love from America here. Idk what teddy is bitchin about we love destroying natural resources and exploiting other civs... lmfao. Love ya man your videos are the shit changed how I played completely. I think it would be cool if you had a camera too to show off some your personality more. Keep it up dude I know you can blow up this channel.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I'll consider putting in a camera some day

[@tangyspy]

Agree about America but disagree about the camera. I love faceless voices. Many youtubers and podcasts I have no idea how the person looks like, and it always makes it worse to have a face attached to voice when you listen to something.

[@Daniel-wl2bx]

And just look at him now…🎉

[@jocapoc]

Dude, you love so much to chop that it was the turning point for your decision to go into the offensive hehe. 29:30

[@Soonzuh]

19:44 "Firaxis, I want answers!" 19:58 Firaxis responds.

[@Steve_Keen]

Fuuuuuuck

[@CrazyVulcan]

Yiyang would make an excellent candidate for building a long segment of the Great Wall. All those 1 food 1 production plans tiles might as well boost tourism if nothing else.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Yeah, we'll see

[@ssidradumercer2038]

Cant believe you have 20k subs now. I remember when you had not even 1.000 and look at you now!

[@gonzo_o0]

Hey Pomme de Terre! I would really like to see you tackle something like Immortal difficulty on Epic speed. I usually play on Normal speed and checked what the differences would be. I know it may not be YT viewership friendly but it drastically changes the tempo of the game. If not on YT, try it on your own time. Lotsa fun to be had. Keep the content coming!

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

The only real difference Epic speed makes is amplifying the AI's early game advantage, while amplifying the players long term advantage and making the game longer and more tedious.

[@LeonisRegulus]

Good ol' Potato

[@LaQcaracha1]

18:56 This tile is owned by Chengdu. The tooltip says it in the second row. "Owner: China (Chengdu)" You´re welcome. ;)

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Oh I know, but my poiny was... 😏

[@polokicks900]

Love the breakdown

[@4Goodman]

Great series, sir. Can we please get a big ass Great Wall around your border on the next couple of episodes? After Flight they should give a little boost to tourism, right? Plus they look great from space or so we were told.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I'll try

[@CrazyVulcan]

Personally as someone who likes the religious game Mont St Michele is important not because I intend to also pursue a Culture Win but because the generated domestic tourism provides a lot of protection against another civs Culture.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

MSM is nicd for relic tho

[@gallaplacidia1551]

This is great. Could you do a tutorial on winning the science game? Please?

[@jrm78]

MSM would really shine if you had your own apostle army to sacrifice to Jadwiga's mass of apostles. Relics everywhere. It would help with tourism too.

[@matthewlarsen9376]

idk if you would want to do it but vod reviews might be cool.

[@ZinbaForLife]

Also the Great Wall is quite useful

[@SortOfEggish]

lol what the hell!? I had no idea you could swap around great works! hahaha I feel like a fool not knowing

[@motelbotel]

lol, i was dying at 18:55

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

My sould was dieing

[@lucamanfredi1777]

Bully for you, Buddy

[@jaeusa160]

"Who owns this tile?" I didn't quite finish your whole bit of confusion. But mousing over the tile says the Civ (City) which owns it. The owner was indeed Chengdu as you'd concluded. WHY Chengdu owns it, I'm not sure but it is very boxed and generating a lot of Culture in so its tile acquisition via culture going out that far isn't that weird. So if Chengdu bought it via Culture because your cities and France's cities are all boxed in very tightly, that's on you not the Civ devs. ;p

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

My point is the city shouldn't own it if it if can't work it and another city can. Its easy to miss and hurts the player and AI.

[@jaeusa160]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey Not sure how you'd fix this specific interaction. Chengdu was just culture-expanding, saw its options were: Empty water tile out west, flat land by river or hill by river to the east, and chose the hill by the river. It's just not sophisticated enough to account for your other close by city wanting the title in its future as well. And, of course, I think we're all better off with the Civ AI not swapping tile ownerships on its own... On the plus side, since you saw it, you could then work the tile without having to buy it in the smaller city. Whereas if the culture purchase skipped that tile, you wouldn't even own it to swap, not until the smaller city picked it up. It's annoying that the player has to notice this manually, but I think "taking the best tiles" is probably the best logic they could use for city culture purchases.

[@Exit_zero]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey doesnt that city own it because you used a builder to deforest that tile for Chengdu then u never swapped that tile back to the other city

[@sta7e]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey I think there were Trees on it and you swapped that Tile to Chengdu to chop and boost.

[@trevonhood297]

The second he mentioned trade routes I realized he didn't have any, no wonder the production was so slow lmao

[@trevonhood297]

commercial hubs are definitely hard to fit in though

[@eduardo3652]

Why don't you ask Jadwiga to stop converting? I find that it works sometimes. Worth a shot right?

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Its not that big of a deal tbh

[@eduardo3652]

@@AkaZeo Learn something everyday.

[@eduardo3652]

@@PotatoMcWhiskey tbh? What's this TLA?

[@CrazyVulcan]

As someone who is interested in modding I oh so wish I had access to more core routines for the Ai. Least explicitly when it comes to Military Logic. What I fear happens is the Ai simply gets a Go-No Go from the higher Ai when its troops are lined up along the border and it has "enough" military combat strength to match or exceed yours by some %. The crux of the issue is that once the Ai gives the over the walls command all the units cross into your territory and then each individual unit is ordered individual based on a simple flowchart. Something along the lines of Can I make a move (Toward a target)? Can I Attack at that spot? Can I inflict some % of damage? Will I be in danger? The issue is that all that happens is the units shift around, usually deeper into your territory and only attack targets that they can hurt enough. If you are fortified or defensively turtle up the unit knows it cant win a drawn-out fight so it simply moves to a "safe" tile. Except it is from its target NOT any other dangers on the map. And for god knows whatever reason it doses not have a goal to take territory. There needs to be a mid-level Ai that assesses objectives. I need to ask, What city boarder my Civ? Which city has the most value to take? Just add up the score value of all the buildings, tiles and improvements in that city's influence. Then it asks which of these city's is the most valuable that I can take given my military strength in the area? What is the City Center Strength and dose my local Combat strength equal 150% of that? Then once it decides it CAN take a city pass it up to the diplomacy Ai at single that it can start the war. The Key is that once ONE city is decided to be the target all units within X tiles of that City's border need to focus on attacking the city center. The new individual Ai should flow like What units are in the assigned group? What units have the most strength? (Move first) >> >A| |B| Can I move toward an enemy Unit? Can I move to the City Center? Attack! |A> Am I under half strength? Is the tile I moved from free? Move! If not then is my Assigned Group Over Half Strength? Yes, Fortify No >B| Like I said as a modder I dont have access to the part of the Unit Ai that asks these question.

[@peterclemenza3654]

You could liberate boston to finish the war. That would remove any warmonger penaltys you get during the war.

[@oatmeeru]

19:58 entire world declares war on France

[@eduardo3652]

Hey Potato... I was aware of the power of Sumeria and Korea, what makes Australia so powerful? I don't think I've ever watched you play them. My results with them are meh. I do remember a game I played long ago where I had this vast network of Outback stations, but I'm not sure how I did it, or what victory type I played for.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Lots of free housing, district adjacency, production.

[@ZinbaForLife]

and for me playing the land down under for quite a while, the gain from better tiles

[@louisgray96]

Nice explaining of your thought process in this video, really enjoyed it. Do you think Entertainment Complex and Water Parks buildings are worth going for in a culture game? Looking forward to the deity run!

[@ninjastarz7]

Jungle Petra instead of MSM would have probably been the better play. Lots of extra yields and tourism on culture tiles. Faith games are impossible without good pantheons in my experience.

[@SourceOfBeing]

@Nindzya - Do you mean Chichen Itza? It provides extra yields to Rainforest tiles, but Potato McWhiskey chops pretty much every tree in his empire so any benefit it would give, would've been temporary at best.

[@ninjastarz7]

@@SourceOfBeing Taiwan was almost all jungle, a couple chops would still be a good Itza city. It really only needed a couple chops where future districts would be placed.

[@reidskull5018]

You say Mont St. Michel was a mistake, but is it still good for the Kongo since they get a bunch of otherwise useless apostles?

[@eduardo3652]

Nice, never thought of that.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Not really amazing for Kongo

[@krle1984]

Does themed great art must be placed in specific city or just can be themed in any other city?? Does that have same influence on AI or maybe is better to put it in the nearest city to the AI??

[@Tom-sp1sx]

Smash that beef potato

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I'll squash ur beef fool

[@Tom-sp1sx]

yes u will @@PotatoMcWhiskey

[@thomasmetzinger2096]

Why don't you use siege towers ? Are they too strong ?

[@eduardo3652]

They are for bypassing walls and doing direct damage to the city... they are a lot outdated at this point in the game. Catapults would probably work for him but they would take too long. Bombards will blow down those walls in 1 or 2 shots.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

I don't have strong melee units and bombards are more my speed.

[@cass7448]

@@eduardo3652 Additionally, bombards can be used against units. Siege towers are exclusively for attacking cities, so they're of limited use in a defensive war.

[@melindawhite2696]

You mention that units need the "sword of fion (?) what is that. I can't find any mention of it anywhere

[@expocon1]

So housing really isn't that important?

[@eduardo3652]

No, it's important. The potato is fixing to do a neighborhood push to promote his culture win big time. Shopping malls as far as the eye can see... this also results in a ton of housing as a byproduct.

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

Housing isn't super imporrant... As long as you can hit 7-10 pop. Beyond that is has diminishing returns.

[@konplayz]

how do you know where you can put a national park?

[@selmonto]

4 cataps lul