New Tanky Secondary Battleship - Sun Yat-Sen First Impressions

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Potato Quality

Potato Quality

Жыл бұрын

Even now while I upload this I kinda regret getting so frustrated at the game, but I'll still upload the video. It's good for you to know that I'm not always happy and positive while playing World of Warships. I also think this is a great look at the downsides of a very expensive ship.
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@darthteej1
@darthteej1 Жыл бұрын
Watching PQ's slowly declining sanity is a real treat
@jeffallen3382
@jeffallen3382 Жыл бұрын
I think it's funny as hell!
@pedrohicken3884
@pedrohicken3884 Жыл бұрын
Do you?
@mandesir1
@mandesir1 Жыл бұрын
its the pained laughter that keeps me coming back
@DemonSparda_
@DemonSparda_ Жыл бұрын
The Torpedo Protection bullcrap is working against shells but not against from torpedoes. Lmao
@mr.skully8787
@mr.skully8787 Жыл бұрын
Potato coding
@CesarinPillinGaming
@CesarinPillinGaming Жыл бұрын
Because the torpedos are so high in the water in this game? XD
@oedipusdrex
@oedipusdrex Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you honestly have to aim a bit higher. Aiming waterline gives you tons of torpedo protection hits, demonstrated perfectly in the video. I don't think it SHOULD work that way, but that's the way it works.
@dzello
@dzello Жыл бұрын
@@oedipusdrex It depends on your guns as some ships have more torpedo protection than others.
@KarthikVishwamitra
@KarthikVishwamitra Жыл бұрын
@@oedipusdrex It's because the main belt armor is directly behind the torpedo protection. The shells overmatched the 25 mm torpedo protection layer and then bounced and/or shattered on the angled main belt behind it. If the shells landed higher (either bad aim or aim bug lol, impossible to tell) they would have overmatched the 25 mm upper belt and he would have had full pens. If the shells landed on the ship's stern they would have overmatched and may have citadelled the Yodo through the stern. Of course if the Yodo was more broadside (even another 10 degrees or so), aiming waterline would absolutely be better. And I'm sure PQ knows all this, but he was understandably upset with these matches. FWIW, I'm sure the Yodo had a really boring game too. He only had two BB's sitting in spawn to shoot at (both of which overmatch him everywhere), so he couldn't get much damage there. So he went to B to cap it. After he capped it PQ was there so he couldn't go anywhere else. Eventually when the game was won he popped out to try to torp PQ but missed. He angled against PQ and then got annihilated by the St Vincent. I'd be surprised if he got over 120k damage that game, and that's only possible if the St Vincent let some fires burn and he got some damage on the Edgar I didn't see.
@TaskForce-ql3bx
@TaskForce-ql3bx Жыл бұрын
Those 3 Overpens on Conquerer and his RNG with the fires actually crushed a piece of my soul too bruh
@joedoe6444
@joedoe6444 Жыл бұрын
i can always tell if i am on the winning or losing teams early on in games based on how many shells hit and what damage they do. it is like RNG flips a coin at the start for your team and the outcome has been pre-decided. just like pro wrestling, the people in charge already know who will win the match because it is in the script.
@tomkat1631
@tomkat1631 Жыл бұрын
This video, with all the differences between game knowledge and hability, shows what this game causes on the vast majority of players. The desperation, which usually turns into rage, because despite of having a good position, despite having a full broadside ship in front, the RNG laughs at you. And that without talking about the matchmaker, supership addition and CVs and submarines... One of the best videos you have done. Really. Thank you.
@solidtoto
@solidtoto Жыл бұрын
Citadels on BBs should be almost guaranteed, that Conqueror should have taken way more damage. And Wg must stop giving all new ships underwater citadels... Alongside of course, removing CVs and subs, obviously.
@kolla5415
@kolla5415 Жыл бұрын
@@solidtoto Removing CVs and subs is everyone dreams but WG will add more of those monstrosity in the future.
@AllesssKlar
@AllesssKlar Жыл бұрын
@@solidtoto They should at least add some better counter potential.
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 Жыл бұрын
What else do you expect from unregulated casinos?
@mariusweber4990
@mariusweber4990 Жыл бұрын
The sad reality is that that kind of gameplay is how you keep bad players engaged (and paying), so it will never change, at least not for the better. High levels of RNG increase the skill floor and lower the skill ceiling, which ensures that you can get moments of success even if you consistently make bad decisions. Hearthstone used the same principle, and it ruined that game for me as well.
@hallasnackbar1865
@hallasnackbar1865 Жыл бұрын
People underestimate the benefit Georgia's speed boost brings her. Her ability to relocate or push flanks makes it easier to use her guns and secondaries. I would not trade that for more armor.
@zlpatriot11
@zlpatriot11 Жыл бұрын
GA: Yeeeeeet!
@Stephen__White
@Stephen__White Жыл бұрын
I mean it's not just speed Georgia gets, you can hybrid build a Georgia seeing as the only thing you lose is a small reload boost to your secondarys to use Arty Plot Room 2 for 11% better dispersion, plus you have more overall guns, and a faster stock reload on your more secondary guns than Yat-Sen can get max on it's fewer guns. Yat-Sen is far closer to a Gneisenau than a Georgia. Though in a lot of ways, even Gneisenau out performs Yat-Sen. That's honestly likely why PQ suffered so much, this isn't a T9 ship, it's T9 guns on a basically T7 hull.
@gothia1715
@gothia1715 Жыл бұрын
Cross eyed 6 gun BB disperion tells a sad story... Should ve get toxic Thunderer instead of this thing back then.
@hallasnackbar1865
@hallasnackbar1865 Жыл бұрын
@@gothia1715 I have both, I prefer Georgia every day of the week.
@papaversomniferum2365
@papaversomniferum2365 Жыл бұрын
@@hallasnackbar1865 Same, Tbh i haven't been playing nor Georgia nor Thunderer from quite some time. BTW I use speed boost modification to make Georgia fast like a cruiser for longer time. Bassically i play Georgia more like its mid-range cruiser.
@tcmkralc
@tcmkralc Жыл бұрын
"it's just rocket planes, how much could they do?!" famous last words
@Choukai_Chan
@Choukai_Chan Жыл бұрын
One day. One day Potatoes calmness will break and we'll get a 3-4h video about everything that is going wrong in this game. Godspeed pro vegetable.
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 Жыл бұрын
That will be after he has a plan to get himself off dependence on WG compensation, and ready to handle the revenge of WG staff.
@tsarnicholas
@tsarnicholas Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting a battle where things don't go well, this is what my games normally look like
@gothamgoon4237
@gothamgoon4237 Жыл бұрын
same here
@murillo160592
@murillo160592 Жыл бұрын
how a light cruiser can take 3 BB shells into torpedo protection and get out intact... no flood etc... Historic acurate
@Clearwood_
@Clearwood_ Жыл бұрын
Arcade game. Want more "realism" there is War Thunder.
@torenico
@torenico Жыл бұрын
if you expect that from warships let me tell you something: you're playing the wrong game lmaoo
@zlpatriot11
@zlpatriot11 Жыл бұрын
@@Clearwood_ And WT is garbage anyways.
@glhmedic
@glhmedic Жыл бұрын
They are doing to this game what they did to tanks. They are killing it. Stopped playing tanks and I’m finding something else.
@elham7459
@elham7459 Жыл бұрын
AP penetration under waterline will cause flooding back in CBT era afaik.
@kpatt2006
@kpatt2006 Жыл бұрын
Someone in chat mentioned to Boggzy, during their recent patch stream, about the tier 9 experience. He said it was fine because they can see all the numbers and tier 9 is performing perfectly normal...
@dzello
@dzello Жыл бұрын
Honestly, since superships have been added, I haven't noticed anything in my tier 9 ships. I'd still rather be bottom tier in a tier 9 than bottom tier in a tier 7.
@kpatt2006
@kpatt2006 Жыл бұрын
@@dzello that's the real nightmare. Tier 7 vs tier 9.
@dzello
@dzello Жыл бұрын
@@kpatt2006 It is but a lot of people think tier 9 is unplayable thanks to superships. And honestly, I still find tier 7 worse.
@user-gm7fs6kv2l
@user-gm7fs6kv2l 8 ай бұрын
I bought the battleship SUN YAT-SEN I regret the purchase. I do not advise anyone to buy it!!! 1) The battleship's life was reduced by 8000 compared to the Soviet Union. Reduced the waiting time for battleship repairs from 40 seconds to 80 seconds. Which reduced the survival rate of the ship in battle. 2) Made a caliber of 457 mm, increased the rate of fire, and the speed of rotation of the towers. And they put 6 barrels. BUT they reduced the armor penetration by reducing the weight of the projectile from 1,373 kg to 1,000 kg. Damage from 14,500 to 13,000 During the battle 3-4 times shells fall above and below the enemy ship. Damage 1300, 2600 less often 4900. The enemy gives 6-10k damage in response As a result, the battleship is inferior to all 9th-level bonuses, by about 30-35% Such as: Musashi, George, German battleships, John Baru, Ilinoisu. The site administration removes all objective reviews about this battleship. The battleship needs an increase in sigma and or an increase in the weight of the projectile to 1,373 kg, or the velocity of the projectile to 870 m.
@Mr_King96
@Mr_King96 Жыл бұрын
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting things to change. Meanwhile PQ when he specks another BB into full secondaries:
@Swarm509
@Swarm509 Жыл бұрын
The ships still work, but require a very different play style these days. You are mid/late game firepower and you will be hard countered a lot of the time by CV's and have to play around it.
@AlexC-mu2cc
@AlexC-mu2cc Жыл бұрын
Tier IX is ultimate pain for secondary BBs
@randalhuffman8827
@randalhuffman8827 Жыл бұрын
The pommern does well though....
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 Жыл бұрын
Nah. People who think so are just revealing they aren't skilled enough to adapt to being -2 tiers.
@jasonweber4866
@jasonweber4866 Жыл бұрын
3/10 for the ship but 10/10 for a funny video. You realy managed to encapsulate the full BB experience at T9.
@evolutionari
@evolutionari Жыл бұрын
That 3 shells converged in perfectly towards Conqueror superstructure and dealt overpens?! Or did they just fall short, as usual? What the..? EDIT; Bro this video was so frustrating to watch, but also shows the reality so goddamn well. That Yodo surviving, The United States (Very creative name, yes) dealt over 30k with 2 bomb strikes... Yesterday I played 4 matches, we lost all of them and all were blowouts. The *very well so balanced* matchmaking made sure that we had more than half players who had no idea what to do. I understand how you don't want to make your videos in a negative narrative but you're REAL. That's more important to me than anything else. You show the good, and the bad.
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 Жыл бұрын
WG insulting us with their constant reasons not to have a skill based MM... ...and all the toxic unicum clans pushing hard to not lose the potato farm that strokes their ego.
@Langoras
@Langoras Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how you try to see everything from a positive view, even though it often times is rough to play. Nice video though, thanks for sharing! :)
@stabbingnemo
@stabbingnemo Жыл бұрын
I love that the highlight of the video is the sunset in Port. I agree with you, I've stopped playing most of my BBs and only play my schlifien when I want a troll game.
@blackraen
@blackraen Жыл бұрын
21:17 You know that there's some serious fundamental game mechanic design issues when the only guy on the map pushing is in a ship specifically designed NOT to push. lol.
@zetsubouda
@zetsubouda Жыл бұрын
Wow man, thank you for going through that and posting this. I was really interested in this ship, especially since I like both Yueyang and Jinan so I thought it'd be good for a change of pace training Sa Zhenbing but.. yeah... Well we'll see. I'll wait for you final review.
@KlerikerNero
@KlerikerNero Жыл бұрын
I feel you PQ. BBs are just one-armed bandits. But maybe you have better chances in Airship Escort mode?
@christopherteichmann8104
@christopherteichmann8104 Жыл бұрын
The experience for a DD main these days sucks too. Too m any planes. But WG don't give a fig. Shame. A lot of my clan have been playing since beta. Now we barely play at all.
@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll
@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll Жыл бұрын
@@christopherteichmann8104 Dont forget enormous radar that lasts forever being added on every single ship, too.
@gothamgoon4237
@gothamgoon4237 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention blind too.
@tahiribnmohammad5410
@tahiribnmohammad5410 Жыл бұрын
someone worked out that 7% is more like 17% better dispersion or something we have to remember, ts 7% sigma, 7% vertical dis, and 7% horizontal dis
@theseasofenvy8826
@theseasofenvy8826 Жыл бұрын
No, it's just 7% better horizontal dispersion, but the way the area of an ellipse is calculated means a 17% difference
@dzello
@dzello Жыл бұрын
It's not. It reduces the radius of the ellipse by 7% which is a reduction the area of the ellipse by 17%. However, the odds of your shells landing in the middle of the ellipse rather than near the edge is dependant on sigma so reducing the area by 17% does not mean a better accuracy by 17% either. The odds of shells landing in the outer 17% of the ellipse is much lower so removing that part by tightening the ellipse is a slight gain in accuracy only.
@stevenbland2736
@stevenbland2736 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you featured this ship because I was just about to buy it. Not a chance now.
@eliricalis
@eliricalis Жыл бұрын
This looks like a difficult ship to play. Either spec into secondaries or spec the main guns with an AA captain. Guess it comes down to if you're playing it in Randoms or competitive... love your vids man, keep it up!
@joshmostposh
@joshmostposh Жыл бұрын
You absolutely shouldn't ever spec this thing into secondaries. The Izumo has better secondaries than this, with more effective DPM and fire starting. I get that people see it has improved secondary dispersion and just assume it's a good secondary ship, but it 100% isn't. It's both lacking in range has much less DPM than Georgia, which isn't at the top of the pack for secondaries anyways.
@sameerkharade7750
@sameerkharade7750 Жыл бұрын
Which makes Georgia still the better T9 Premium BB, but the problem with her is that she takes too much damage in the super structure
@joshmostposh
@joshmostposh Жыл бұрын
@@sameerkharade7750 Absolutely Georgia is better. It's also not in the game anymore. So this makes Sun Yat Sen the only t9 BB still purchasable with 30mm overmatch. Sun Yat Sen's not anything too crazy, but if you like Soyuz and want something with 30mm overmatch it's not bad either. Just, you know, don't let yourself be fooled into thinking it's a secondary ship.
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 Жыл бұрын
Just FYI, ANY ship with defAA consumables does NOT have good AA. The consumable is there as a BAND AID, not as a means to make the ship good. Sun Yat-Sen, is neither a secondary battleship, nor an AA battleship. You want to spec for her main guns (reload can get down to 20 seconds or less) and survivability, like most battleships. WG trying to pretend that she is anything but this is just them being known scam artists.
@SofaKingA
@SofaKingA Жыл бұрын
Lol, this is one of my fav PQ videos. Keep up the good fight!
@Flamus4head
@Flamus4head Жыл бұрын
Have I ever told you the definition of insanity? It's playing secondary battleships over and over and over again, expecting things to change.
@Mooncricketstinks
@Mooncricketstinks Жыл бұрын
Insanity is playing this game over and over again, knowing that it's suffering, trying to find fun in it.
@anidiot2818
@anidiot2818 Жыл бұрын
That frustration when the guns did almost no dmg, i feel that. Had a game yesterday in my Kidd with 20 sec. left on clock and enemy had 10 points advantage when i spotted an ibuki at 1k hp flat broadside. I struggled so hard to hit it because every shell felt short and it felt like i was fighting some aiming adjustment thingy. At the end the ibuki survived 3-4 salvos with 500hp left and we lost. I wanted to punch through my screen, but turned the game of instead and walked off my PC.
@gothamgoon4237
@gothamgoon4237 Жыл бұрын
Yep, been there myself. Only difference is I actually did punch my computer screen. One computer screen smashed and poorer by $600.
@VeteranMercer3426
@VeteranMercer3426 Жыл бұрын
"I think the game hates." Me with uptiered matches and constant disconnects: "First time?"
@ivanlakic9745
@ivanlakic9745 Жыл бұрын
I was considering installing again, thanks ;)
@Xarkun
@Xarkun Жыл бұрын
I happened to get this thing out of the Prime drop. I was surprised at my luck. I'm looking forward to giving it a try.
@DontAttme
@DontAttme Жыл бұрын
Helloooo
@Xarkun
@Xarkun Жыл бұрын
@@DontAttme Hello there
@elham7459
@elham7459 Жыл бұрын
Both back & front turret angle slightly better than Georgia (28° vs 30°), not as ridiciluous as Petro front 25°. - Soviet 152mm secondary, reach fast, flat trajectory, a bit easier to hit than Georgia but it has much lower volume. - Georgia 2 & 3.5 km has more dps than Yat Sen 4 km AA w/ Def AA, also more than 2x 5.8 km base dps and 2x flak count.
@jm9-sausagebread180
@jm9-sausagebread180 Жыл бұрын
Well, this video basically sums up the reason for me to switch to cruiser from a KM BB main.
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 Жыл бұрын
Sun Yat Sen has TERRIBLE secondaries. Anyone thinking this is a secondary ship does not understand what makes good secondaries or is drinking the WG Kool-Aid. Sadly, Potato here is taking WG sales statements at their word....an extremely foolish thing to do.
@jozseftoth8731
@jozseftoth8731 Жыл бұрын
That last game, i have so many games like this. This means i have PQ level gameplays! Yess!
@AzureAlliance31
@AzureAlliance31 Жыл бұрын
30:30 Let it out. Tell us what you really feel. You're the veteran here.
@michaelwang1524
@michaelwang1524 Жыл бұрын
Commentary is hilarious. I feel your pain.
@zagareth4604
@zagareth4604 Жыл бұрын
Did you really think, a secondary build on a ship with only 12 secondaries and a 3.8 seconds reload time would work? That is just a gimmick
@Akalipt0s
@Akalipt0s Жыл бұрын
its the first time i hear someone complaining with such style... you are an intelligent man..i enjoyed the video
@zontarr8812
@zontarr8812 Жыл бұрын
I've just "claimed" the prime drop and from all possible random prises I got this one with a commander of 3 points and a slot, I guess I am lucky with another tier IX premium ship :)
@FormulaZR
@FormulaZR Жыл бұрын
PQ - could you, just for the sake of argument, play a game with a non-secondary build? Something more like what you'd do with Satsuma or Slava? Edit: the reason I ask is because Georgia/Ohio have the benefit of being able to take slot 3 secondary module and slot 6 accuracy module - so giving the Sun Yat-Sen the best possible dispersion, I'd like to see how it compares to Georgia in main guns.
@jeffallen3382
@jeffallen3382 Жыл бұрын
Then what would he cry about?
@virusproofficial1086
@virusproofficial1086 Жыл бұрын
That's the gimmick of the channel I presume. Spec into secondaries to whine about other aspects of the ship that are actually good about it
@Kyle-lm9qh
@Kyle-lm9qh Жыл бұрын
It's fun to play battleships right now in 2023. I am looking at you carrier and submarine
@eidel3197
@eidel3197 Жыл бұрын
Usually I lovee the positivity vibe from your videos. They make me want to play. They make me believe that WoWs could be a fun game from time to time. But Being a crybaby or overly negative or keeping on complaining is different from being realistic, and I think what we get to see in game 3 is, realistically, what the average WoWs game is going to look like in the very near future, especially with even more planes coming. Hell, it is already the average game on the Asia server, with as many CVs queueing up as BBs and sub already populating the queue
@virusproofficial1086
@virusproofficial1086 Жыл бұрын
His Whining about main guns when he specs for secondaries is making you want to play? He just sounds like a random 49% teammate
@eidel3197
@eidel3197 Жыл бұрын
@@virusproofficial1086 judging people from the one video where he complains and ignoring the hundreds where he doesn't okay bud
@virusproofficial1086
@virusproofficial1086 Жыл бұрын
@@eidel3197 'hundreds' bro there is a difference when playing actual ships and some abominations that you're supposed to build differently. He has no reason to complain when he talks about an aspect of the ship he neglected.
@eidel3197
@eidel3197 Жыл бұрын
@@virusproofficial1086 sure dude just keep taking the piss, no one cares
@virusproofficial1086
@virusproofficial1086 Жыл бұрын
@@eidel3197 are you mad your fav content creator is a crybaby or what lol?
@alphaxedtw9357
@alphaxedtw9357 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the Sun Yat-Sen built as a mid-range main battery based BB as well, just to see how much different the guns would be.
@wote2760
@wote2760 Жыл бұрын
Potato Quality on the bridge while the ship is on fire and barely afloat: "This is fine"
@murphyloi
@murphyloi Жыл бұрын
no need to apologize, this is WOWS nowadays..frustrating as hell..in fact, you were quite calm and reserved given the circumstances..i had to buy a new keyboard last time i played the game.. again.
@yocelebes8289
@yocelebes8289 Жыл бұрын
The very soon future even will be more passive by hybrid ships presence. more planes, more spotter, more snipe etc etc you couldn't use concealment anymore. just like this video showed, even to bring the ship to nearest island took chunk of damage. Really frustration gameplay
@DDayJayke
@DDayJayke Жыл бұрын
Bit of a dumb question what is that UI you are using? Cause that stuff on the bottom left telling you the angle and stuff is pretty cool
@armanhadi777
@armanhadi777 Жыл бұрын
17:40 says it all. True words.
@northernzeus768
@northernzeus768 Жыл бұрын
What ship list mod are you running? Btw… you slow fall into secondary insanity is spectacular…lol
@AzureAlliance31
@AzureAlliance31 Жыл бұрын
17:56 Ship request: FDR, United States, Eagle, or Nahkimov. You know you deserve it. Channel your inner Flambass.
@Swarm509
@Swarm509 Жыл бұрын
Another 6 gun ship is rough, even if she can be built as a secondary ship, at that tier. I honestly find tier 9 to be the worst tier in the game now with subs, CV's, super ships, super HE spam, and now the hybrid line. You rarely get top tier in 9, and you will suffer as bottom tier in most games. You really need to hope your teammates are capable of doing work and the majority of the carry. Also the aim bugs and weird shot dispersion is killing things. I see it so often from me firing and others.
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 Жыл бұрын
Why would anyone build Sun Yat Sen as a secondary ship? You only get six guns per side...with longish reload. Also, they are short ranged...max range by sacrificing EVERYTHING is 10km. Build Sun Yat Sen for main battery reload and survivability.
@glenf4115
@glenf4115 Жыл бұрын
"The Island Therapy session" :)
@sherbetshake4404
@sherbetshake4404 Жыл бұрын
This video is pretty much why I’m taking a long break once my premium time runs out. Im so tired of my shells missing and every other ship just crushing me.
@Blandy086
@Blandy086 Жыл бұрын
Good old World of Warships, where 18" shells can get 'overpens' on waterline hits on battleships... Pretty sure an 18" shell, passing through a hull at waterline (even if it doesn't detonate) is going to do significant damage to machinery and even cause flooding... But no, 1,500dmg for an overpen, even if it goes through the boilers...
@momchilgradinarov6428
@momchilgradinarov6428 Жыл бұрын
This thing needed at 2 more superfiring secondary turrets behind the main battery, one aft and one forward. With just 3 secondary turrets per side, it just isn't enough volume.
@rtyhhas
@rtyhhas Жыл бұрын
your video was a reality we who play deal with. Along with subs.
@sandville2396
@sandville2396 Жыл бұрын
Great video commentary, just missed the sound :-(
@balverine07
@balverine07 Жыл бұрын
Ive been struggling on quite a few of my Iowa games (just got her) because of the supership up tier, im still getting used to her and such and then im seeing satsuma's and united states, tho i guess for me the most confusing game was against and FDR, i just dont get how i got so many plane kills and all the attack flights were still full :\
@Joze1090
@Joze1090 Жыл бұрын
Can it really be a secondary boat with only 6 guns per side? Seems a bit lackluster
@sdluke
@sdluke Жыл бұрын
This ship with sec spec should be good for the Airship escort mode, but ramdoms you're probably better with main gun accuracy
@dclark142002
@dclark142002 Жыл бұрын
Her secondaries are too short ranged, too slow firing, and too few. You are better off with main gun reload (can get it 20 seconds or less).
@kasugaryuichi9767
@kasugaryuichi9767 Жыл бұрын
Hmm... gotta love the megazao.
@user-dz8oz3ub1d
@user-dz8oz3ub1d 7 ай бұрын
I have an average damage of 45.000 on the battleship Sun Yat-sen On other battleships, 70,000 - 80,000 damage. Other players have the same thing.
@FormulaZR
@FormulaZR Жыл бұрын
This game is still fun. Sometimes. But for 2 games a session instead of 2 hours a session. I have to say - the apology/complaint circle may have been the funniest part of any video I've seen so far in 2023.
@Iscandelt
@Iscandelt Жыл бұрын
This is first video I watch on your channel. Subscribed because of all this passive aggresive comments, you got me there ;)
@deavle3
@deavle3 Жыл бұрын
no worries on the complaints. Watching misery and suffering is entertaining. Maybe I should be a CV main...
@momchilgradinarov6428
@momchilgradinarov6428 Жыл бұрын
Dear PQ, I saw you have Brisbane (in your CC account probably), please do a video on that.
@Dik131WZD
@Dik131WZD Жыл бұрын
Aren't you going to make a video about how to play dirigable derby? Could you give a peace of advice?
@mr.pillsbury7610
@mr.pillsbury7610 Жыл бұрын
I have never experienced the frustration alot of players have faced. I don't bring my emotions to the PC. Maybe I'm just mild manner. But the key is too not get too overly emotionally attached to the game. Have fun! Shoot ships and if you die, just pick another and keep going. Anger and fustrations equal to NO FUN and I can understand it. Just something that never effects me or my game time.
@Stephen__White
@Stephen__White Жыл бұрын
I honestly can't get behind a secondary build on this ship, it just doesn't have the weight of fire to justify it. I mean it has a total of 12 152mm guns, and given the placements of the guns only really 4 are going to be realistically firing at a target. Added to that this ship is kind of slow, 28 knots for a T9 secondary boat puts it even slower than Iwami with a lower over all DPM, plus Iwami at least also gets torpedoes for helping in a close range brawl and they both have the same range. Paired with Iwami actually having the default accuracy to not really mind giving up the main gun dispersion and reload buffs, while Sun Yat-Sen has a kind of rough 1.9 sigma for ignoring the main gun dispersion mod as you have just above German accuracy on only 6 guns. None of this is really helped by secondary's being fairly meh to begin with, makes playing a ship that is rather under-gunned rather annoying. I personally can't even get behind Georgia or really any of the American "secondary" ships actually being used as secondary builds. Hybrid builds sure, you have nothing else really worth taking in slot 3, you may as well take the 20% range and dispersion boost, but the 127mm guns are near worthless, and even the 152mm guns on Sun Yat-Sen are nearly worthless without that 32mm HE pen threshold being met. Otherwise it's only useful at dealing damage to DD and Cruisers. 9:56 it's 7% of a radius, so a total of 14% better dispersion over all. As it's 7% from the vertical and horizontal. That's literally why everyone was losing their shit over Dead-Eye, it was a 10% radius. 14:06 It sucks playing secondary battleships with 6 guns, and even more so playing a secondary battleship with 6 main guns and only 6 secondary's. GK does fine due to volume of fire from both main and secondary guns, but you can't be impatient, you can't rush. Even FDG would be better to play compared to Yan-Sen as a secondary ship. The extra range lets you take up better safe-ish supporting positions while still getting your secondary's to fire. For some context for how much not having that range hurts, you have only 1km more secondary range than a Gneisenau, with the same main gun count, same main gun reload, and Gneisenau has better secondary's. As it gets roughly 12 guns firing at any given target, where you only get 6, and it's guns fire faster and pen 32mm natively. Only to really add salt to the wound, Gniesenau is faster than you, has basically the same concealment as you, has only 20k less AP DPM than you, has a better turning circle, has better rudder shift. The only 3 ways Yat-Sen are really better than a Gniesnau is HP, AA and overmatch. So secondary battleships can work, but only when the ship isn't effectively 2 tiers to high but with big fancy 457mm guns.
@MrRandyDandyAndy
@MrRandyDandyAndy Жыл бұрын
Oh this video is just beautiful
@ayayaybamba3445
@ayayaybamba3445 Жыл бұрын
Wait does the prime gaming drop mean that we will be getting it for free with Amazon, or that we will have a chance of getting it for free?
@missk1697
@missk1697 Жыл бұрын
Wondering that too
@luke_smith262
@luke_smith262 Жыл бұрын
I reckon it’ll be a rent from prime gaming. Sometimes they give you a ship for a week or whatever so you can try it out. Not sure though
@riccardopozzoni8821
@riccardopozzoni8821 Жыл бұрын
I think he means we will get x amount of containers that could drop this.. they wont give a T9 for free.. probably usual panasian bb pattern, like wujing/bajie.. dubs only or containers
@MK-wx5vu
@MK-wx5vu Жыл бұрын
You will have a chance to get it for free. They did that with pommern as well a while back
@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll
@Ett.Gammalt.Bergtroll Жыл бұрын
A one-time gamble with 1% chance to get her.
@bugycowboy7172
@bugycowboy7172 Жыл бұрын
i think i will stick with pommern which is free btw imagine you have to pay for something and its sucks nice work wegee
@Wolfpack-219
@Wolfpack-219 Жыл бұрын
The, "I hate playing WOWs sometimes man, this game sucks bro!" @12:52 I can't stop laughing 😆 🤣 😂. It was the best cause I feel these moments almost every time I play it. So I play it less.
@ianatkinson5509
@ianatkinson5509 Жыл бұрын
Can we please get some dd play? I think you’re pretty good on them, and you can find some gun boat types that fit your combat needs.
@ronchabale
@ronchabale Жыл бұрын
Yodo at the end, 6 km, 1 torp protection hit for 600 dmg.. lol
@QuackYouTube
@QuackYouTube Жыл бұрын
Best infinite loop I've ever seen in which someone was stuck. Grrr. Ma bad. Grrr. Ma bad. Grrr. Ma bad. Grrr. Ma bad.
@AllesssKlar
@AllesssKlar Жыл бұрын
I had a 2v2 today. MM at its best
@rogue9898
@rogue9898 Жыл бұрын
This whole vid comes off as PQ's Joker moment lmao, can't say I blame him
@_maximus_1990
@_maximus_1990 Жыл бұрын
when will it be released?
@KenoAhnung
@KenoAhnung Жыл бұрын
Stopped playing WOWS a while ago and found this video of an new cool looking Secondary BB, but after this matches and complaining i am still happy to not play WOWs :D
@timothymorgan8254
@timothymorgan8254 Жыл бұрын
I need this
@waverleyjournalise5757
@waverleyjournalise5757 Жыл бұрын
Oh, it was entertaining. Just not in the way we expected. WG's probably pretty happy though. "Ah, now finally the people who play our game will see how pointless surface ships are and switch to playing only CV/susmarines."
@arkabhattacharjee776
@arkabhattacharjee776 Жыл бұрын
in the 3rd game i am not sure why u circled so many time on that place and u can overmatch yodo everywhere so why go for waterline when dispersion is sketchy .
@CaptainSpud88
@CaptainSpud88 Жыл бұрын
Oh and I legit feel your pain here I used to play this game all the time but have Switched to war thunder world tanks and Tarkov to get some relief from the mental torture this game is now a days with the direction they are going
@snaxx1682
@snaxx1682 Жыл бұрын
tbh I think a video dedicated to toxic PQ would be pretty funny
@Officer_Boat
@Officer_Boat Жыл бұрын
Frustrated for you, that was rough. I haven’t okayed in a couple months. May have just helped save me some frustration
@ianatkinson5509
@ianatkinson5509 Жыл бұрын
I don’t comment much, but I cannot resonate enough with your pain in this video… I loved this game but watching it go down hill for greed has sucked. I try now and again to play a few games but I end up being so mad and angry that it just isn’t healthy for me.
@ianatkinson5509
@ianatkinson5509 Жыл бұрын
I’m okay with the pain man, you should come out with a series where you comedically complain in a positive manner as you play. “Oh hell yeah a double cut against me” just my luck! Oh heck yeah follow with a double fire”
@ismaelclaveraareosa4514
@ismaelclaveraareosa4514 Жыл бұрын
28:59 in this kind of moments you can only say XD or also break the monitor with a punch, or both.
@pigbay
@pigbay Жыл бұрын
This makes you miss the deadeye days lol
@rherreror
@rherreror Жыл бұрын
here comes the airplanes.... is it a Laurie Anderson reference?
@giannisgt28rs
@giannisgt28rs Жыл бұрын
very smart play secontery bild ships with only 6 twin salvo..
@professionalantichristhate528
@professionalantichristhate528 Жыл бұрын
Is it confirmed that it's only going to be available for dubs? No coal option?
@Mooncricketstinks
@Mooncricketstinks Жыл бұрын
After what you saw you still want it?
@professionalantichristhate528
@professionalantichristhate528 Жыл бұрын
@Moon Cricket Stinks Eh, with full main gun/survivability build, it'll probably be pretty good, especially in airship escort.
@Mooncricketstinks
@Mooncricketstinks Жыл бұрын
@@professionalantichristhate528 Overlord Bou did a vid on it as well. Even at TT it was meh at very best. Airship escirt will be fun I just didn't play it since I wont have T10 ships.
@user-gh9vz2iq6x
@user-gh9vz2iq6x 8 ай бұрын
I read the reviews. Compared his damage on the battleship Sun Yat-sen. I have more damage on any level 9 cruiser than on the Sun Yat-sen battleship. I have 40% more damage on any battleship than on Sun Yat-sen. I bought the most expensive battleship to fight on equal terms with Musashi, Georgia, Pommern, Jean Bart, Illinois. And I was deceived...
@dzello
@dzello Жыл бұрын
Though you're right that Defensive Anti-Air Fire is great on a secondary battleship, this is hardly one. The secondaries don't have enough damage output and they don't have range either. They would need to reduce secondary reload by 30% to make it decent and it would still struggle to get in its shorter secondary range.
@TheTBW1
@TheTBW1 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you PQ. The game in a nutshell.
@Formulka
@Formulka Жыл бұрын
Secondary BB POV: you are an ant under a magnifying glass
@joedoe6444
@joedoe6444 Жыл бұрын
you are right about this game anymore, every patch is just a new failure for the player base. it's all about buying prem ships and also for all the random bundles. until players start closing their wallets it will never change.
@milansoede2072
@milansoede2072 Жыл бұрын
Georgia still looks better with its highly accurate main guns and high speed with booster. I feel like they weigh more heavily in the current meta, like the Conq in game one showed being tanky isnt any guarentee for surviving. (Also the Georgia is decently survivable itself)
@davidtavani8817
@davidtavani8817 Жыл бұрын
Secondary worth BB to spec secondaries exist PQ: Well, hello there...
@ladion7285
@ladion7285 Жыл бұрын
It says so much about this game and the development when EVEN YOU cant stay positive and end with the wish to stop playing this game for a couple of days.
@CaptainSpud88
@CaptainSpud88 Жыл бұрын
No damage full broadside is one of the things I hate the most and it happens all the time lol
@prisonerofthehighway1059
@prisonerofthehighway1059 Жыл бұрын
Georgia’s tanking comes from sheer speed. This is just a big punching bag.
@StanModGaming
@StanModGaming Жыл бұрын
i think 3.8 seconds for 2ndary reload is slow....GK, monty, mass, Georgia probably highest i go for 2ndary at 3.4 seconds
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