Power washing the 110 Defender ready for new rustproofing - not a nice job!

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[@nickboylen6873]

A pair of the seesaw steel frame ramps that dealerships use to elevate their promoted cars would be good for driving the vehicle up and giving access for this type of work.

[@rockystonewolf]

Very familiar! I do this to my 130 every second year, and end up exactly that wet, cold and mucky. Then rustproofing with lanolin based grease. Essential, as the roads I go on gets salted and gritted during winter. I might get round to make a film as well.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Good stuff!

[@davidwoods80]

"Bull...Shit...Bar" LMAO that's brilliant!

[@Fireman9ify]

In powerwash under mine at least 3 times a year as I use it on the farm. Waxoyl it every two years, buts it still hard to keep the rust away

[@Br1anuk]

We used to have to get the taxis steam cleaned before they were council MOT’d every year and I always used to think that no matter how bad your job is, it’s better than the lad with the sou’wester on working in a pit in the floor in two foot of cold muddy water on a December day steam cleaning a cab.

[@defendermodsandtravels]

I have made up extensions to the front wheel arches (on the rear side at the bottom) which removes the mud traps and protects the outriggers. A simple bbut very effective mod. I have bought mud protectors for the rear ( from Gwyn Lewis in Wales) but I haven't seen similar items for the front on sale anywhere.

[@owensteele1274]

I enjoyed this video! It reminds me of when I used to work for Mighty Minis And Metros in East Devon (long gone now). Mild steel floors, sills, valances and subframes would continue to excessively rot away underneath the sticky bitumen-based thick rubber coatings applied just to get each car through an MoT. To initially prep each car for work, I used to jetwash the undersides only for me to get showered with black rubber excess coating which was stuck to very flakey, long-corroded metal. It really was a crap job!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

It really is a shitty job and you cannot pay a man enough to do it! This stuff does not harden in the cold and does not drip like some oil based rustproofing when it is hot

[@CHAGrady]

Looking forward to the tool for washing under the Landy Mike. Enjoy yer Friday 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🍺

[@TheCounty90]

A Karcher drain unblocker hose fed through a 1” hole in the chassis is a good tool too.

[@johndiaz7240]

Good job

[@russ3069]

HI MIKE, WELL DONE MY FRIEND! I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL! MANY MOONS AGO NOW, I DID THE SAME, BUT ON A BIGGER SCALE! STEAM CLEANING LORRY CHASSIS, FOR PRE MOT. IT WAS A BIT EASIER THAN WHAT YOUR DOING, AS IT WAS UP ON LARGE CONCRETE RAMPS. WE HAD ALL THE GEAR. BUT GOT JUST AS WET AND DIRTY! I DID IT FOR 3 MONTHS 8 HOUR SHIFTS, GOOD MONEY, BUT THAT WAS ENOUGH FOR ME!! TAKE CARE MIKE, STAY SAFE! AS IT SEEMS YOUR ON YOUR OWN THERE,MOST OF THE TIME!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Yes = not a job for the faint hearted!

[@jamescunliffe9872]

Combined rotary brush + pressure washer? Land rover parrafin Jacuzzi? A whole tribe of umpalumpas with scrapers? Lol

[@defendermodsandtravels]

How did you clean out the inside of the members? My solution is to drill holes so I can pass a garden hose along the full length flushing out any dirt. I have bought plastic plugs to fill the holes keeping out mud etc. This works much better than trying to pressure wash through small dia holes which only permit a limited spray pattern. My 30 year Defender has very limited corrosion (hardly any) and shows the value of taking these precautions.

[@peterkane9822]

Hi Mike i had all the wax accidently taken off using this although it was a recent coating put on i had started to clean the engine with a pump sprayer id mixed it in but using the rest up on the chassis thinking it would just get the dirt off after leaving it on for 5/10 mins then power washed it and it came up clean this is the stuff Surfex HD buy Bilt Hamber This great wash / prep stage development from Bilt Hamber is a spray and wipe clean product designed to attack all oil and grease based dirt and grime build up on your vehicles paintwork. Because this product isn't solvent based (which is great in environmental terms) this product is able to attack and effortlessly clean organic, or water deposited grime. This great product provides performance levels that match and even exceed solvent systems while meeting the latest standards of biodegradability. Adjust this product to the strength suiting the level of soil and dirt as it remains active at levels of just 1 part to 200 in water for light work, or used neat for extreme duty. Surfex HD is recommended for all arduous automotive, commercial and domestic cleaning duties. Can be used on paint, wheels, tyres, fabric, carpets and most surfaces. Spot tests are always advisable

[@andicog]

I've not used this product but Bilt Hamber do some brilliant rust removers, bio degradable as well, just mix with water, throw in rust caked bits and a few hours later they come out rust free. It's not often I'm impressed but I was impressed!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Actually I have a test video of a product we have here when I was cleaning up knackered VE pump parts - yes I was impressed! I should make it public

[@canamsteve5321]

The powdercoating on my Defender bullbar acted much the same way - once compromised, it allowed water to wick in and it was "always wet" and always rusting. It was cheaper to buy a new one (from a LR dealer!) than repair

[@BritannicaRestorations]

That's why I stopped buying and supplying anything plasticoated 10 years ago Powder coat is a real bond, but this plastic coating is terrible here - as you say it cracking in the cold, and water gets in and cannot get out

[@peterkane9822]

Also Mike they do their own stuff instead of wax oil which has great reviews Have a look on Amazon at their stuff and reviews also on KZbin

[@lyletregoning4717]

The “mud trap” on the front outriggers is a nightmare. I’ve mounted my old rear mud flaps over the hole/outrigger to stop it

[@defendermodsandtravels]

I have done the same using aluminium sheet.

[@seckinduman]

Better fire hose 1-1/2" rather than pin point highjet. More flow more stream will clean of all debris and any stubborn historical mud. Soak in river freshwater H2O :)

[@nzrestoration9486]

I think we all realise you didn’t want to do this job, and most of us wouldn’t either! But it has been great to watch you Mike and it is a useful video so thanks. If you ever fall on very hard times you will fit in nicely with the vagrants and ho bo,s wearing that kit! 😂 Seriously though thanks for making the time to do these they make my day watching you and puts a smile on my face, you see Engineer and social worker in one. 😃

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Thanks! Jobs like this need doing and it always seems to be me who gets the short straw!

[@bigm383]

@@BritannicaRestorations It's the sort of job that a young lad could be doing in a corner of the yard for cash in hand, but, I guess that wouldn't comply with Occupational Health and Safety.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

It is so hard to get folk to do these jobs - but someone has to do it!

[@greggferns3278]

It's a good job the hat doesn't have ear holes or they would be in the wrong place

[@BritannicaRestorations]

For Christmas they sent me a diary and pen - pen stopped working after a few days....

[@greggferns3278]

@@BritannicaRestorations Typical

[@thelonemoomin]

Can you paint the underside with a non bitumen based glossy underseal paint to help shed water and dirt? Just thinking that this might protect and aid future cleaning.

[@dallen521]

Just put a new chassis, shocks,wheels, etc. On whenever it needs a wash. Swap all connections for quick lock ones and I am sure you could get the change down to an hour. No need to ever wash a Land Rover chassis ever again.

[@nickboylen6873]

“Bullshitbar” 😂😂😂.

[@richardgreene8750]

Love your channel Bill, Is it Bill? Anyway, would we need to be careful if damaging anything underneath with 2000psi washer? Like, electrics or plastic fittings? 2003 TD5 90 Cheers

[@BritannicaRestorations]

2500 Psi is the pump pressure at the nozzle - the further you get away form the surface you are blasting the less pressure

[@canamsteve5321]

Sounds like me removing wood-chip wallpaper :-) I'm surprised you can't find someone local to do this. Usually truck stops have HP washing services either onsite or nearby? I used to think Karcher was German (based on the name), but the first time mine froze in the garage over winter and disabled it (broke a 25¢ plastic part that was $20 to buy) I discovered it is Italian - now I understand. So now I am fastidious about draining befor winter comes. But really - do they expect me to bring the thing into the lounge over winter?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

You should run some used antifreeze though it on the last use before winter ( great use for it BTW!) This is a good old German one when they made proper power washers - I was tempted to buy new but this came up used but broken I had to replace the contactor and bypass a few features (low fuel level as it is interlocked to starting) but runs like new Also I run some muriatic acid through the boiler coil once a year to reduce scale which reduces the output - amazing difference to performance Karcher sold out to the cheap home market use, and the smaller stuff is not much good - plastic parts as you say I recently bought a Karcher upholstery cleaner and broke after the warranty was up - and that was a $800 machine!

[@machiningbasics1729]

I’m painting my new galvanised chassis . For looks and theft deterant.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I used vinyl wash paint - thin and sticks well

[@civiprepper]

Whats your thought on corroless chassis rust inhibiting paint? my galvanizing was shot so i used their rust converter. I figured i will just abrasive blast it off when it flakes and paint a fresh, but its not failed yet in two years. its also only 8 pounds haha. Also what about coaltar paints. maybe you could use some of your scrap defender chassis for a test video?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I am not familiar with these products but i will check them out

[@simonroberts9759]

Hi Mike. I wonder what precautions you suggest to avoid high pressure water getting where you don't want it to go. Personal experience is you can end up with a real mess inside the vehicle. Most Land Rover owners will know that there are lots of holes, unsealed seams etc which will allow water in - and unless you do a lot of wading you might not have discovered before. It may be that you just let it dry out afterwards. What do you suggest? Cheers Simon

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Good question - I just let them dry out usually - the power wash will find hole that need sorting - the shell on this was badly corroded

[@simonroberts9759]

@@BritannicaRestorations Understood. Anyone with fixed carpets needs to be careful to lift them and see what nasties lie below!!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Agreed! The P38 I just scrapped was soaking wet inside - the foam insulation was like a sponge!

[@simonroberts9759]

@@BritannicaRestorations My battery box was horrible and the rear footwell was under about 1 inch of water. The positive in this is you realise where the holes are - three cheers for dum dum!!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I often wonder if LR ever took one of their old vehicles in that has been on the road say 5 - 10 years, take it apart and study what real driving/ownership does to a vehicle

[@JamesParus]

Was galvanized frame from factory. What year did they start to do it.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

No it was fitted 15 years ago

[@NihadH]

I have just done a thorough DIY underbody pressure washing as a part of the preparation for preventive underbody rust proofing. The underbody has never been washed since the vehicle was produced 8 years ago. A thick and super tough layer of dirt called "traffic film" has accumulated on it. I can now confidently say that the only worse washing job might be when those Indians wash their grudgy working elephants with a hard on.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Interesting comment to ponder on - must visit my local zoo Lol!

[@tomthompson7400]

looking forwards to hearing how you rust proof a land rover . whats the process , is there a video. there seems to be a reluctance from landrover owners to acknowledge the fact theres a rust problem with them, why do you think that may be??

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I guess the rough tough image projects the steel is well protected from the factory

[@tomthompson7400]

yep ,,, but as we both know it certainly isnt.

[@aribach]

How do you best wash the inside of the frame? Special hose for the pressure washer?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Be brave and drill a few 25 mm holes is the bottom of the chassis and wash out with a pressure washer

[@philaddison7590]

what will be put on it for the rust proofing?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

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[@tfarris1]

What’s the tire size on that 110? I have a set of free styles coming

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Not sure Tim = I will see if I can find out

[@tfarris1]

@@BritannicaRestorations Thank you!

[@mikefoley360]

What rust proofing would you suggest over the others? Cheers Mike

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I use a product called April which is made here - a light wax type in black or amber which is non drying.. great for inside chassis

[@mikefoley360]

@@BritannicaRestorations Thanks Mike, I'll have a look see if its available here (UK) or a similar. Maybe have s look at what's available for a future video and what's involved doing it at home. Thanks again, always enjoy your content and I learn stuff too.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Dinitrol is very good in Europe

[@darland3821]

@@mikefoley360 bilt hamber products are great for diy application.

[@mikefoley360]

@@darland3821 Thanks for the reply

[@HeliRy]

Is it possible to powder coat a galvanized chassis?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Why bother? Just paint it

[@HeliRy]

@@BritannicaRestorations True. I guess the thought was just to make the chassis bomb proof. An extra layer of durability over and above painting it and/or making it smell like a wet sheep.

[@greebo7857]

You knew that the Britpart hat wasn't going to work, right?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

You know what was weird - when I knocked off and went for my mail at lunch time, there was a Bearmach hat in the box! Spooky!

[@RoverAddis]

Use diesel works every time

[@weaton25]

Am I being a bit dim if you use diesel then it comes out of the exhaust pip as fumes or black smoke how does that work ???????????

[@RoverAddis]

@@weaton25 u just put diesel on a spray compressor takes off greasy stuff.

[@bigm383]

I guess the owner will watch this video and want the rust cut out and split welds rewelded??

[@BritannicaRestorations]

No - spent enough already!

[@bigm383]

@@BritannicaRestorations He'll be back!!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Lol! many a truer word said in jest!

[@davidwoods80]

65 x 7.5 = ouch!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

This was almost double! Got a lot of clean up to do

[@davidwoods80]

@@BritannicaRestorations After paying for that, I bet that truck never goes through so much as a rain puddle without a wash!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I hope so! It is going to be sprayed in Montreal, but it will be a 10 min flash over - It takes me a day to do it right, but despite they say you can Waxoyl on damp metal, I need it 100% dry

[@jayrollo6029]

Got rid of the landy, gave her a new home with a young enthusiast, a new life with my Nissan van what has happened to me 😭🤣😂😅

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I have Yaris......

[@owensteele1274]

I like "BullShit Bar"! If you were still in the UK and doing this, every 2 minutes people will stare at you and ask how much you charge to do theirs! Kids then tell you that you missed a spot! Blooming annoying.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

lol!

[@kingquadking6075]

Rust bucket land rover can't think of any other vehicle you have to rust proof only land rover total crap rot box on wheels!!

[@darland3821]

As a life long land rover fan I feel compelled to respond to this very negative view of the marque....I agree!

[@erikv1974]

@@darland3821 bwahahaha

[@andicog]

Yep they rot. Better with an 80 series Toyota or one of those Nissan pick ups , oh hang on, the 80 series rots around the rear quarters and Nissan have been buying trucks back after they snap in half due to corrosion in the chassis . . .. At least Land Rover bits are cheap and plentiful in the UK and you know what your buying into.

[@kingquadking6075]

@@weaton25 rust may be!! holes new chassis welding no on any othet 10 year plus vehicles probably not only land rover but people who buy them seem to like to fix then rather than drive them

[@andicog]

@@kingquadking6075 my ex military 110 did 16,000 miles last year and will be over that this year, engine oil and filter every 10,000km, engine oil, tappets, gearbox, transfer box, diff oils and diesel filter every 20, 000 km. Bought for the weekend but used everyday, winter and summer, zero depreciation , my last Toyota surf, oil tight as it was, lost a lot of money and here in the UK there are only 2 places that sell upgrade parts and they're not cheap, with the landy (at least in uk) I have a land rover supermarket 9 miles away with staff that have an interest and what they don't have in stock they get for next day.. Besides, I won't buy Japanese since they've started whaling again.