PowerA Fusion Pro 4 Review

[@hugomarques7500]

Dude, your review is just another level! Greetings from Brazil!

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro thanks, really appreciate all the support!

[@Lukasz3332x]

its crazy that on XB we get such controllers for 70 usd while on PS5 they cost 3-4x more. Probably the only good thing during this gen on Xbox.

[@thephototechy]

I think Sony has very strict requirements for a PS5 controller, and doesn't even allow them to implement a vibration feature. I did read Sony being fined in France for some third party controllers issue on PS4. Looks like things haven't changed for PS5 either, personally for PS5 I think edge or any dual sense modified controller makes sense, no point touching any third party controllers.

[@midboys]

Yep​@@thephototechy

[@Airinas96]

@@thephototechy DS Edge battery life is like 2 hours, lol. Playing with a cable is not acceptable, imo, but people think swappable batteries is somehow bad 🤷‍♂️

[@ZarteHaferflocke]

You and vCuda make the best controller reviews probs and keep it up

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro thanks for all the support!

[@rajohns08]

Nice video! Can’t wait to see how a 8khz overclocked Dualsense or Dualsense edge fairs on your latency frame charts! Would be nice to see how the GOAT latency controller stacks up against all your existing controller comparisons for latency

[@thephototechy]

Bro I'm eager to test this too, but currently only have consoles (series x & PS5). It's the first thing I want to do whenever I can get a gaming PC 🙂

[@rajohns08]

@@thephototechy this would also give you the hex phantom with the same aim feeling as the Dualsense edge while having 4 back buttons! Truly possibly an endgame controller! Mine is shipping now, can’t wait.

[@twistedops2069]

By far my favorite controller. I returned the Wolverine v3 and Scuf is in the drawer.

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro thanks for sharing, this makes me happy to see the issue is with my personal preference and not with the actual aim of the controller.

[@twistedops2069]

@@thephototechy I haven’t noticed any decline in my gameplay. In fact it’s better just due to the shape and feel of the controller. Sad that I had to send the Wolverine back. Everything was perfect besides the grip and feel of the overall controller.

[@dannydavito201]

Really? It's the worst controller I've ever used personally

[@crocodilegamingtv1178]

Excellent breakdown. Im considering this do to the back buttons.

[@thephototechy]

I do love the back buttons but man I can't get used to the aim properly, specially when I have other controllers that are performing a lot better for me.

[@IncredulousByDesign]

Nice review mate. How is the thumbstick tension when comapred to a standard XS controller and Gamesir G7/Kaleid? Also, do the thumbstick have any nasty slop/unresponsivness when resting?

[@thephototechy]

@@IncredulousByDesign hey bro the tension feels higher than my G7se for sure and on par with the Xbox controller, I'm working on a way to measure this as well for future reviews. This time around we have true 0 deadzone option so we can see the actual centre of the sticks and the play. The output of the sticks does feel ever so slightly slower from the get go, this sorta showed on my Xbox latency test as well.

[@IncredulousByDesign]

​@@thephototechy cheers for the reply mate

[@cchhaarriitthh94]

Hey bro ! Nice review ! Just a quick question. I ordered myself the razer V2 chroma during the prime sale in uk and just came across the new V3 ! But it seems to be not available still. What do you reckon ? Keep the v2 or wait for the new V3? Thanks 🙏

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro V2 is an amazing controller, but I did encounter issue with my sticks developing play towards top and there's no way of recalibrating V2. If you have a good centre point out of box and you got a good deal cheaper than V3 TE(£100) then keep it, otherwise get the V3 TE over the V2. There's been reports of V2 having broken back buttons after some play time, and the V3 back buttons are definitely better placed than V2.

[@cchhaarriitthh94]

@@thephototechy I got it for £75 ! Hopefully it’s good out of the box with no stick drift. Thanks for the reply ! Also, any idea where the V3 TE would be available ? Amazon doesn’t have it yet !

[@NicholasFuller-yq2dk]

I agree. There’s something off with the aim on this controller, but I felt the same way about the Gamesir hall controllers. I went back to Elite series 2 (with the advanced personal knowledge I now have of setting deadzones, curves, etc) and it feels much better. I think I’m just done with Hall effect sticks… here’s to hoping TMR sticks are truly the best of both worlds (perfect?) and the G7 pro has them 🤞

[@thephototechy]

I'm also hoping TMR would make the HE experience better as well. Gamesir controllers have felt better after the report rate update, prior to that I wasn't using them too. I have the Thrustmaster's HE module coming today, hoping that one feels better.

[@Frizzyy]

Had a similar experience w Gamesir hall effect controllers, simply did not feel accurate for shooter games.

[@HRM.H]

Custom trigger deadzones is nearly cheating for racing games. Forza used to have hard coded brake lock-up if you pressed them beyond 88% without abs. Being able to disable a button is huge, especially if you got huge hands 😂

[@thephototechy]

Bro the controller definitely has some unique features, but man I can't get used to aiming on this one 😔

[@pandoro2003]

Seems like you are really liking the Razer W V3 TE, did you experimented with the calculations? Radial and standard? Wich one you liking the most?

[@thephototechy]

@@pandoro2003 hey bro I've been keeping the standard from day one, I need to check if the output values are different with the circle output. Hoping to publish the video in a couple of days. But yes loving the V3 so far, even thinking of getting a replacement from Razer as mine has that uneven output I showed in a recent video.

[@pandoro2003]

@@thephototechy I'll be waiting for that review with my popcorns and everything 🤤

[@StickyGeko]

I'm been using circular and for me feel better in halo with it ​@thephototechy

[@militaryarchive4840]

Hey PhotoTechy, are you gonna review a new GameSir Tarantula Pro controller?

[@thephototechy]

Definitely want to take a look at it, but want be able to play with it as I'm only on console currently. Still might get it to just run some tests on those new TMR sticks.

[@militaryarchive4840]

@@thephototechy awesome, looking forward!

[@ashleyibbitson7011]

Hi mate I recently out of curiosity decided to try the fusion pro 3 with scuf instinct thumbsticks instead with normal settings and precision ring in and it definitely does not feel as sensitive as normal. Something to try out as it seems to have given me way more fine control

[@thephototechy]

@@ashleyibbitson7011 hey bro definitely something I'll give a go, haven't used precision rings in a while due to Xdefiant needing a full 100% register for flicks. Now call me to think of it, precision ring with the fusion 3 output would make a good combo for COD.

[@ashleyibbitson7011]

@@thephototechy I dunno if you've tried the 8bitdo much but that controller feels amazing for me on cod and xdefiant. I'm getting the pro 2 tommorow to see what that's like I'll let you know if you don't have it

[@thephototechy]

@@ashleyibbitson7011 hey bro the ultimate HE is definitely a very responsive controller for sure and yes both Xdefiant and COD feel amazing with it. I was using it for a good few hours just days ago, as there was an update available for it. 100% a recommended controller. Please do share if the pro 2 feels the same, could be an ideal solution for people needing PlayStation layout on Xbox

[@Frizzyy]

Could you recomend a controller that is good for FPS shooters and has 4 paddles ?

[@rajohns08]

I believe his hex phantom review said that’s his daily driver and fits your criteria

[@fourtyxx7306]

Bought this and immediately returned it, I don’t know what it is about hall sticks I just don’t feel accurate with them. Returned the razer Wolverine v3 te and now this. Sticking with my nacon revolution x, I swear it’s the most accurate controller I’ve ever owned

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro can you please share the games you mostly play? I can definitely understand how HE can feel different. Personally I've been able to get used to the HE sticks with linear response output in COD. Nacon revolution X has a built in deadzone but the algorithm used for the alps on that one is truly a great performer.

[@fourtyxx7306]

@@thephototechy so I mostly play warzone and halo infinite, with the fusion pro it was too snappy for me I couldn’t get used to the aim response curve on it. With the Wolverine v3 te it was ok but I felt like there was some sort of disconnect between my thumbs and what the sticks were doing lol idk it’s hard to explain. The best example I can give is like hydraulic steering in a car vs electric steering, the feed back didn’t feel the same. I was switching back and fourth from the v3 and revolution x and my precision on the nacon was night and day better 🤷‍♂️ oh and honestly I wasn’t a fan of how high the tension was on the Wolverine v3 sticks, maybe that was throwing me off a bit as well

[@thephototechy]

@@fourtyxx7306 bro thanks a lot for sharing, I think that disconnect floaty feel you describe might become an issue in any Ksilver JH16 sticks. The newer controllers do have a quicker response but still that stop on command and really connected feel can be felt a bit better on potentiometer sticks, specially the revolution X

[@fourtyxx7306]

@@thephototechy no problem and thanks bro that’s honestly the perfect way to describe it, like a floaty feeling that I really didn’t like.

[@monkeyboy9896]

Good stuff 👍 Razor wv3.T. A .Next please 💯

[@thephototechy]

Thanks bro! Razer V3 TE should be out in a couple of days, then we have Thrustmaster hall effect modules hopefully.

[@Vizr.]

I returned it b/c of the dookie jh16. Cheap plastic feel, and back buttons being flat and sharp. Just enter recalibration and circularity should go down to 8-10%. (Depending on how centered the module is install by the factory) You must recalibrate with a 3% inner deadzone (or else the recentering will be off and above .01-.04 once you remove the deadzone) that way recentring behaves well under 0.005 when you go with 0% deadzone. Also you can calibrate with an outer deadzone at 30-65% to give yourself headroom with that setting. To be able to lower or increase the range. (Default just makes you max out before hitting the edge. Good for LS bad for RS) From factory they are calibrated with filtered 15.5% with squared diagnals. Simetrical ranges may be off. And you may need to use the tape method when recalibrating. (Notice undershoot issue in 4 different gamepads) ---- When pressing the triggers don't press to hard. Just enough to make contact so you can properly adjust the settings and have them reach 100% when using the trigger stops.

[@thephototechy]

Bro I've done at least 15 calibrations on mine 😆, even tried without the friction ring but the right stick on mine got too much register on bottom and not enough top, so looked like the stick not centered with the top shell. I could get the centre to be really good on mine as well. The issue to me feels like a slow start of the sticks, which becomes uneven, my latency tests showed this to slower as well compared to even elite series 2.

[@Vizr.]

@@thephototechy yup, I tried 4 of the 15 available just before they put them up on AMAZON. (Whoever bought them Open box discount. Got properly calibrated sticks by me. Lol. Don't mess them up.) ---- All right sticks had undershooting on one corner. And crazy overshoot on a cardinal direction forcing me to compensate just to have even ranges. (Used 1-3 layers of scotch tape. With varying thickness on one particular side of the stick.) This could be. Not from not properly centered to shell. Or just a mold issue with the plastics. Or b/c they calibrated with to much pressure. On the flimsy "anti-friction" rings. Lowest I got my right stick was 12%.(b/c of compensation. Could have been lower) Yet I can use calibration tricks to bring the LS to 5-6%. (8-10% being the sweet spot) But yes by the default. Outer Deadzone setting is useless. Unless you calibrate with 30-65%. I even recorded around 2 hours of material. But was to lazy to even edit it. Could half shifted and resoldered the modules to properly fixed them. But preferred to get my money back with no questions ask. 4/10. Converting a fusion 3 to HE would be a better option. Edit: WALL. Sorry not sorry. But it beat having to edit a video. Trust me I did like 100+ calibration and different methods. RS+X 3-6 rotation, 3 trigger presses. BURNT ON MY RETNAS. Pain in the ass. They need better QC Another thing I noticed was EMI with both modules while pressing any trigger. If you remove the deadzones let a stick recenter. It will correct itself via software. (THIS IS BAD for micromovements) then press a trigger and you'll notice some interference. I understand the LT magnet messing with the LS. But the RT messing with one or both. Means that they may be sharing the voltage under the same circuit. Since I didn't open any up. I dont know if there are just using a resistor for it. Or also a ferrous metal to reflect any EMI. Just Lazy.

[@thephototechy]

@@Vizr. Bro I think if they get rid of those tiny inserts between the larger output values, that might make a difference. But then according to my tests we'll have less than 100 zones from centre to out, around 90ish. I think that'd be better than what it has right now. Not sure about their R&D but the response from start of the sticks did come out to be slow on FP4 for me. I have the Thrustmaster's new HE sticks coming today and excited to try them out, hoping they've done something different to JH16.

[@Vizr.]

@@thephototechy The jh16 have varying in quality. And it depends when the batch was manufactured. Shame cause ginfull has TMR in development with jh16 form factor. K-Silver release jh20. And Kailh also about to TMR jh16/20 form factor. But targeting other 3rd party product manufactors. Fully customizable. With tension, stem length, color, support for different voltage for gamepads 1.6-5.0v (Not supporting first party Xbox and PS4 though) American/Korean/aus products are lagging it in comparison to Chinese manufacturers right now.

[@thephototechy]

@@Vizr. Bro have you seen the JS16 by Ksilver? not sure if Gamesir used those in the Tarantula, but Ksilver is markeing them as low power similar to TMR claims.

[@RealMadrid_BarcaFan]

Hey would do you recommend for gamesir g7 se triggers to be set to do you know what numbers would be good for valorant so I can burst fire instead of shooting all the way?

[@areebmasoodi8932]

Hi i know this question isnt related to this video but I'd really appreciate it if you could answer it. Does the 1000hz on the gamesir g7 se work on the Series X?

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro I've recently tested mine with firmware 6.30 and once set on PC to 1000hz it still improves performance on Xbox when compared to 250hz for sure.

[@areebmasoodi8932]

@@thephototechy Alright thanks for responding! By the way would you recommend that I install the app? I just switched to windows 11 but I have already configured my controller so I might not need to download the app. I'm also not sure if I should play with Raw input mode on or off. That was really confusing to me. Thanks!

[@goingviral8917]

This or the Gamesir G7 HE i just sold my PowerA Fusion Pro 2 and want a replacement G7 HE is about £35 while the fusion pro 4 is about £70 So is it worth double? I have the G7 SE and wanted something slightly differently but good Thanks

[@maikelstapper4347]

The new modules for the eswap its like to that i have a high tension ingame butt the sticks feel loose what is this cant explain what it is butt its feel off for me hope a quick review about you bro

[@maikelstapper4347]

Havr try it again the sh5 its really ankward feeling about the sticks my iam is off its feel if i have a big dz i cant. Say for 100% what it is butt feel very strange iam back to the s5 modules have all ready try it 😮😅

[@vianaalimentar1663]

hi, how many grams of force need to move the sticks?

[@carreraluu]

You gotta test out the GameSir Tarantula Pro

[@thephototechy]

Very tempted to get one even though I won't be able to use it as I only play on consoles. Definitely looks like an amazing option for sure.

[@carreraluu]

@@thephototechy oh man you're so right seem like it doesn't support xbox. Knowing Gamsir they might come out with another model that works on xbox next year.

[@thephototechy]

@@carreraluu I sure hope so bro, but there seems to be a G7 pro coming soon for xbox with the new Ksilver TMR sticks.

[@marioramos3415]

V3 tournament best controller Pc ever? (for claw grip)

[@Shmoinki3]

Gamesir is better for claw cause it’s smaller and doesn’t have 6 extra buttons making claw useless lol

[@thephototechy]

Bro for claw grip I'm not sure if Razer's wide shell and stubby grips would be best. But you'll get a true 1000hz performance on PC and a very good aim output options, I've explained these my review , which should be out very soon.

[@maikelstapper4347]

Hope you have all ready try new sh5 modules its really bad bro its feel weird i do also s5 stick putt o on the sh5 modules to use my kantrolfreek butt iam go back to the s5 modules its feel so much more accurate and senivivi its like the sh5 have much deadzone or much tension feel not right hope you answer me

[@thephototechy]

Still waiting for mine to arrive, not looks ng good as Amazon is not showing as dispatched yet

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy what you mean bro.not so good reviews on it ?

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy understand it used translate

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy butt really the sh5 feel horrible

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy iam so curoius you opinion about the sh5 modules butt iam back to the s5 sticks feel so more accurate and faster then the sh5 i wait on you opinion bro tnx

[@alainseyyar1858]

CAN you do a latency test for a kbm on ps5 pls. From 🇫🇷

[@maikelstapper4347]

The new modules hall effect for the eswap controller feel slow and not good

[@maikelstapper4347]

Feel weird

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro mine supposed to be with me tomorrow, this isn't a good sign, will test it thoroughly

[@maikelstapper4347]

@@thephototechy hi please let us know what you opinion is about the feeling on the new modules its feel its have to much deadzone can't not say what it is tp compared the old modules are amazing feeling very responsive butt the hall effect modules feel weird to me

[@bw536]

Can u have different profiles? I haven't watch whole video yet

[@thephototechy]

@@bw536 hey bro so to me looked like it has 3 profiles, as just pressing the mapping button once the Xbox led flashes to show different blinks. But the mapping of the back buttons stays the same and doesn't change in any of the three seeming profiles.

[@bw536]

@@thephototechy thanks

[@MrSidkhan1]

Can u map triggers to back buttons

[@thephototechy]

hey bro, so the app won't show the option, but using the method of on contrller mapping I was able to map both left and right trigger to the back buttons. Once done pressing the back button gave full 100 press of the triggers, hope this helps.

[@MrSidkhan1]

Thank you

[@fwabble]

@@thephototechy That's cool and a good feature for those who want it

[@Emilian017]

How many hz have?

[@thephototechy]

Hey bro 250hz and locked.