Watch Part 1: Turning An Old Crown Vic Cruiser Into A Track Panther kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYjciZaLm7V3h6M
@MrDcaps2 жыл бұрын
L stands for “limited” not locker. It’s just limited slip diff. “ LSD”
@HorsepoweredRims2 жыл бұрын
These are the same guys who said "the proper air in your tires is listed on your sidewall" smh.
@northshore_driftworks6292 жыл бұрын
In that particular case L might mean anything but most likely it means locking since truck diff have a locking mechanism . It works with gyroscopic force and locks once a wheel starts spinning. Unlike a LSD that you might find in the rear end of a m3, they don't use clutches, rather weights and springs. They're either locked or open whereas a clutch type limited slip will limit slip more and more depending on load. I'm 99% sure that ford used the locking type since it had it as an option on f250s and 350s.
@charlesboetel13242 жыл бұрын
Northshore is wrong, gm gov lock lsd work that way in trucks, fords use clutch type trac lock lsd in the 8.8 cars and trucks.
@richardtibbetts5742 жыл бұрын
L stands for Lysergic 😜
@chucksgarage71652 жыл бұрын
@@northshore_driftworks629 nope. It’s a crown Vic diff. Only option was a clutch style limited slip.
@ImTheJoker4u2 жыл бұрын
Limited Slip - NOT locker
@bepbep74182 жыл бұрын
Between this and Cleetus McFarland there are no Crown Vics left!
@CanadaBud232 жыл бұрын
Lots of panther platforms to use, not just crown vics. Same like foxes lots of different kinds not only mustangs.
@ImTheJoker4u2 жыл бұрын
Super pumped for this weekend 😁👍👍
@SHADOW517joe2 жыл бұрын
Nah, I've got mine. Don't forget there's the TownCar, and GrandMarquis. There's still tons of them. Now cleetus has definitely effected the amount in central Florida. But other than that there's plenty left.
@hammlybammly36542 жыл бұрын
Just got one yesterday! The last one the yard had... NOW there are none left xD
@ytgre77672 жыл бұрын
How can you trust a guy who doesn't even use his real name cleetus McFarland is made up BS
@NateCraven3182 жыл бұрын
0:44 Loving the dump cat
@GrandPitoVic2 жыл бұрын
I Luv it guys. I have an 03' ans a 08' P71. Both Hialeah cars (Miami). One was a squad and the 08 was a Detectives car. Great cars. The 03' I bought with 91k on it and now she has 170k just maintenance. I just finished the timing set last night. Lol. I paid $675 for the 03' from the Miami Police Auction Jan 16'. Best $675 I have ever spent. 80k miles and I beat her pretty badly. The cops didn't do to her what I've done. She was my first. You know you always remember your first Lol. It's time to restore her. I put in a complete black interior out of a 06' in her. You guys are giving me more ideas. Lol. Thanx for the content.
@trmeriwether12162 жыл бұрын
Like always great build! The crown vic is such a awesome car that doesn't get the love it should.
@Toolaholic72 жыл бұрын
I know one KZbin subscriber that uses them for demolition derby cars up to a certain years
@bepbep74182 жыл бұрын
@@Toolaholic7 Cleetus McFarland just took 40 of them to Indy this weekend.
@Toolaholic72 жыл бұрын
@@bepbep7418 The Heavy Wrench loves them for demolition derby cars
@williamhurren51812 жыл бұрын
@@bepbep7418 there's only 20 here.
@patrickwines95512 жыл бұрын
If you can grab parts off a mustang, might as well have grabbed the torzen lsd out of a ranger 8.8 and the 4.10s
@thecheese3022 жыл бұрын
do not think that is legal on spec panther. i believe only the factory panther trak lock is allowed
@rickstorm41982 жыл бұрын
They are the same Eaton limited slip design. The Cobra mustang and other high HP vehicles can use enhanced clutches made of carbon though. Only other major differences are the axle spline count 31 vs 28 etc...
@Toolaholic72 жыл бұрын
Never thought of putting that nut for the lower strut bolt and drive it out with a good powerful air hammer.
He or she will meow their project saying: why are you messing with junk and not feeding or petting me?
@douglashine96382 жыл бұрын
Why didn’t you turn the axle like you did the others? Never assume
@scottcarl92062 жыл бұрын
That is a police intercepter package due to the grille is black and not chrome. I am totally surprised it didn't have a limited slip. Also, I know they are going for value over looks, however, I would have swapped out the calipers all the way around. Remanned cals at Oreilly, AZ or Advance are rediculously cheap and new cals and hoses are cheap insurance for the track. I will tell you, the binders and rotors from Hawke were not cheap. You guys do great work, keep it up.
@justloudcustoms2 жыл бұрын
A shadetree mechanic showed me the best way ive ever seen get the bolt red hot and splash it with ice cold water ..the rapid hot to cold will brake loose anything if dont correctly..
@2000blackstang2 жыл бұрын
Don't reuse that bolt though.
@justloudcustoms2 жыл бұрын
@@2000blackstang yea it does require new hardware but it blows my mind first time i seen it happen
@rickstorm41982 жыл бұрын
You can also take a battery charger to it.... Ground one or frame and hit the positive end fir few nano seconds a couple if times. Works with stuck parking cables. caution can damage electronics including ECM if not dine correctly.
@josephsingel66322 жыл бұрын
You should have replaced the outer axle bearings while you had it apart. Those rear ends are notorious for the axle bearings wearing out.
@jimbaldridge93922 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the Crown Victoria's and the others getting some much needed love,most people will laugh that these cars are to heavy and not much to do on, I want that thinking for them.i will enjoy my 04 with 119.500 miles 2-wheel drive slightly "modified"😎 V8 That chirps the rear tires hitting second gear with more upgrades in the works.
@samueljackson24782 жыл бұрын
The Grand Marquis get even less love and they are great cars for the money and are dependable with low miles.
@clancycell892 жыл бұрын
My 08 P71 has 287,000 miles on it and still drives like new but both of you are correct since the last one made in 2011 they don’t get the love and attention that the deserve. Wish they would bring the panthers back and show those FPV’s whose still king of the road.
@theman68and12 жыл бұрын
L is for limited slip not locker
@brtherb86772 жыл бұрын
The junkyard cat had more personality then the hosts...!!!
@capricetony2 жыл бұрын
I have the 3.55s in my 2009 CVPI, great take off for a 4000lbs car.
@totensiebush2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have expected any Panther to have a locker. Limited slip seems far more likely in a car like that.
@geoffneibert1242 жыл бұрын
Ford never put a locker in a production vehicle, only open diff or limited slip (Ford term is trac lock)
@totensiebush2 жыл бұрын
@@geoffneibert124 I wasn't sure. I know Chevy put lockers in some trucks, didn't know if Ford did the same but I knew a locker in a car like this wouldn't make sense.
@MatthewSmith-to1hz2 жыл бұрын
it is
@dinkydotzero2 жыл бұрын
Is the L for locker or maybe and just hear me out on this one, Since it for a Crown Vic Maybe it means Limited Slip?
@williamhurren51812 жыл бұрын
Limited slip.
@SlikLizrd Жыл бұрын
NAH. That "L" means it was made in Louisiana. If you see one with two (2) "L"s, that means it was made in Louisiana by Leprechans.
@skeetermcswagger0U8122 жыл бұрын
This is why I can't enjoy shows like this, so first they check all the rear ends to see that they don't have a 'locker'(not that any Crown Vic even ever came from the factory with a 'locker',only limited slip)by turning one side and seeing if the other side turns with it. So then they have the idea of checking data tags,and after finding one with the right numbers just tossed in the truck without seeing if the 'turn the axle thing' is any different,check the fluid inside.(if there is any),make sure that neither of the axles are bent or what the gear ratio is!....nope just trust a part that only god knows how many miles are on it and throw it in the car. That could have been from under a taxi cab for 3 to 400,000 miles!!!
@SKATETOSLAYER2 жыл бұрын
lol boy you are getting hot and angry over something I'd be willing to bet they did do off camera, but yes, they may as well have showed it.
@skeetermcswagger0U8122 жыл бұрын
@@SKATETOSLAYER Yeah,... but I know a lot of people don't know much about cars and try and learn them from these DIY shows and that puts them in a pickle sometimes worse than if they just did the research themselves.
@rickstorm41982 жыл бұрын
The guys on TV aren't really the best mechanics. They are staffed with real mechanics behind the scenes.
@bradbarley66392 жыл бұрын
How about a Summit part number on those mufflers??
@frank3stangs2 жыл бұрын
Limited slip is what the L stands for!
@rickstorm41982 жыл бұрын
Exactly, i see so many saying locker. No... People would wreck their vehicles first damp spot they hit 😂
@jasoncarpenter41162 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why didn't you get a 355 geared rear end instead of the 327 rear end. Faster gears would have served you better.
@scottcarl92062 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I like the 373's in my 5.0 Mustang, overhead cams are very sleepy off the line with the 327's, I have another 5.0 Mustang with 323's and who boy is their a world of difference in the 2 cars, the 323 car is a gen 1 5.0 and the 373 is a gen 3, the newer car is much heavier so hp gain is irrelevant, however, I can tell you, off the line those 2 are night and day
@andywagoner48692 жыл бұрын
They do a lot of completely retarded things.
@scrubnotapro80292 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that is not an LSD optioned P71, If I recall correctly you can get a 3.27 open diff or locker and the C6 axle being the 3.55 locker.
@bobqzzi2 жыл бұрын
You lowered the front too much- the lower CG is more than offset by the bad geometry
@MatthewSmith-to1hz2 жыл бұрын
2:50 No, the L stands for limited for Limited Slip differential ( LSD). Totally different.
@Formerlywarmer9 ай бұрын
Nice video.
@thecheese3022 жыл бұрын
building as a track car, i would delete the E brake.
@chestercalloway38122 жыл бұрын
@20:54 Was that an Ed Bassmaster reference?
@Harley.Davidson2 жыл бұрын
Why not rebuild the rear end that's in the car with all Ford Motorsport parts? 🙄 Tru-Trac? That's Eaton parts... Thought you had to use OEM parts? 😶 .....Trac-Loc is the way to go.
@rickstorm41982 жыл бұрын
Eaton is the oem supplier of most if not all the domestic manufacturers. The more you know 😉
@joethepirate12 жыл бұрын
The royalty free guitar music is too loud but I’m loving this content! Been wanting to build a Vic for quite awhile.
@lars2772 жыл бұрын
agreed on music, too loud. I like the content.
@geoffneibert1242 жыл бұрын
These fools are officially a joke lol
@drakon4802 жыл бұрын
Question. First car. Ex interceptor. Bad idea?
@dannycortada77212 жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Con's: You will spin out when wet or if you have bad tires. You will back into things you can't see without a camera. The windows will stop working randomly. Oil in spark plug tube problem, Intake manifold cracks, etc etc. Pro's: All the POWAH AND AUTHORITAH!!!!!!
@SKATETOSLAYER2 жыл бұрын
More!!!!!
@lynnrunningdeer73642 жыл бұрын
The object is to heat the outer not the bolt. That only makes it bigger so you got lucky. Also if you're going to cut a spring use a bandsaw not a cutoff wheel.
@gutlass2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, however that circumstance would not have allowed them to heat the sleeve to which the bolt was seized. It was surrounded by a rubber bushing. By heating the bolt, they were able to break the bond (rust). Then, once the bolt cooled (and shrunk), they were able to punch it out.
@lynnrunningdeer73642 жыл бұрын
@@gutlass I never said that it would have worked in this situation. I just mentioned that they got lucky. Especially since physics tells us that shouldn't have worked.
@brandonspencer7244 Жыл бұрын
Why not use a cut off wheel
@lynnrunningdeer7364 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonspencer7244 takes entirely too long and more control. There would also be less metal debris
@lynnrunningdeer7364 Жыл бұрын
@@gutlass like I typed. They got lucky. When you heat the bolt it expands. Thus defeating the purpose. These are a pain in the azz to work on. But after some thought it can be mitigated.
@chada752 жыл бұрын
Got an LSD but no Rear End Girdle? 👌.
@samueljackson24782 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a 1988-1990 Square Body Crown Vic Ltd upgrade done these vics are so underrated also they are not expensive to upgrade .
@MoparMan-ff8fb2 жыл бұрын
where those flow tech afterburner mufflers? I know they said they got them from summit racing ? Will be interesting to hear the new exhaust
@craigthepony62592 жыл бұрын
Just in time to watch thing before work 😂
@MrCliffda3rd10 ай бұрын
Out of curiousity, those that lost some power due to the Dorman intake manifold fiasco, would 3.55 to 4.10 with trac loc and a Marty tune make up for it?
@footz712 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one to see the junkyard cat.
@marks93cobra2 жыл бұрын
I thought all CVPI's (especially later models) had the 3.27 traction-lock rears??
@geoffneibert1242 жыл бұрын
Sone had 3.55 limited slip also
@mercedes-amgforlife32372 жыл бұрын
My 2010 P7B has a 3.55 and is a non LSD.
@SKATETOSLAYER2 жыл бұрын
My first 2011 P7B came with a 3.27 limited slip, the car got rear ended unfortunately. Got another 2011 P7B and it came with a 3.27 open diff. Luckily I was able to pull the gears off my old car. Haven't installed it yet.
@cjolney2 жыл бұрын
Most have 3.27 open. Swapping in a limited slip 3.27 pretty much did nothing at all for going around a track with sweeping turns in a car that barely makes 200hp to the tires.
@nexpro61182 жыл бұрын
Looks ugly lowering a P71 ugh
@clevelandmaker3862 жыл бұрын
Is that a public junkyard or..........
@mario-sl6cz Жыл бұрын
I think I blew the rear end of my 03 town car could a mustang rear end work?
@frankcherry38102 жыл бұрын
What a difference having a lift makes
@bobteachesphoto63792 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you replace all the rear suspension bushings when you had it apart??? They all looked like crap...
@Tomtom62 Жыл бұрын
I just did the same axle swap, I had 3.27 gears in the car , the new to me axle is 3.73, The 1st test drive I got about 100 yards and the car went into limp mode the wrench came on & the CEL, and the engine seemed like it was flooding or running on a cylinder down, Trouble codes: P0104, P0122, P0223,P2106 and P2110, P0113 and P0114. I'm on disability so I have no money to go have a tech look at it, Is there anything I May have overlooked ? ANY INFO or help is very much appreciated. I have no idea why all those codes came up, It drove & ran Excellent before the axle swap.
@teocool1 Жыл бұрын
Usually you would change your axle ratio or something like that on a tuner or can probably have a tuning shop tune it
@Tomtom62 Жыл бұрын
@@teocool1 thanks for helping me with my car problems , I appreciate it. I was hoping I could simply reset the ecu,pcm by removing the negative cable and running a wire from the neg cable to the positive post so everything will be drained ?? Do you think that would work?
@teocool1 Жыл бұрын
@@Tomtom62 I'm not an expert but I don't think that would do any more than just removing battery terminal, I've also never done this, just repeating something I saw somewhere. I figured you might appreciate any reply lol
@imranabbasi78712 жыл бұрын
Good luck 👍
@brentmcmillan6462 жыл бұрын
Instead of cutting springs and all of the extra work , why not just go with a stock P74 suspension?
@Tacticoolpapi2 жыл бұрын
many better ways to lower a crown vic the cutting the springs and guessing a rear spring Mediocre.👎
@Hollywoodhouse742 жыл бұрын
Shitty welds on that pipe
@ridgewood.spidey6608 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys great work as always! I plan to do the same thing to my 08 Vic, The rear springs from an 05 Mustang are they stock coil springs or are they lowering springs? I just want to make sure because I want to do the job correctly, thank you 👍
@yashveersingh17952 жыл бұрын
Too good ❤😊
@1212sman2 жыл бұрын
i thought a great many cop cars already came with a posi. Mine did.
@wesleyd.A102 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you just replace the front springs with a set of lowered mustang springs like did with the back ones???😐😑😑
@loganstaal31622 жыл бұрын
3L.27 So you bought a limited slip 3.27 rear gear axle?
@CrankAddict2 жыл бұрын
Why would you want to put a locker in a road race car? You want a differential that works linearly, not on or off. A limited slip rear dif would be a better choice for the road track. Lockers should stay on trucks and drag cars.
@jasoncarpenter41162 жыл бұрын
What they put in was actually a limited slip, these cars never came with one that was fully locked.
@stegomon2 жыл бұрын
What's with the neo look
@quevicular2 жыл бұрын
Isnt LSD a drug?
@akmarksman2 жыл бұрын
Limited Slip Differential.
@totensiebush2 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised that you're going with a dramatically lower spring rate than stock on the rear: I would have expected you to want a higher spring rate, and cutting (as you did on the rear) would have both lowered and increased spring rate. Not saying it's perfect but it's in the rules. Pet peeve: a Panther doesn't have struts, it has shocks. Struts are fixed at the bottom (generally with a pair of cam bolts to adjust camber), shocks are pinned at the bottom.
@alanhill55132 жыл бұрын
The have a coil over style strut. It’s just not a locating Mcphearson strut like you are referring too like on a Fox
@totensiebush2 жыл бұрын
@@alanhill5513 They have a coilover shock, not a strut. You can get a shock or strut in coilover or otherwise. Obviously there are lots of non-coilover shocks, there are also coilover shocks (such as the front here, or rear suspension on a drag car is typically that way). Most struts are coilover, but there are vehicles with torsion bars and struts - Porsche did that for a long time.
@Zubardun2 жыл бұрын
When you are "looking " for the axle, you have already attach the rope to what are you need, miracle
@NobleFellers Жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you put a softer than stock spring on a front heavy race build?
@NobleFellers Жыл бұрын
You'd be better off cutting the spring as it will lower the car and stiffen the rear
@NobleFellers Жыл бұрын
I'd also box in those rear control arms. Makes a ton of difference on these cars and is probably within the rules?
@toycoma982 жыл бұрын
When i heard them say color change, i was like oh no. I hope it doesn't turn out like the civic.
@quevicular2 жыл бұрын
Gear ratio?
@RandomTechWZ2 жыл бұрын
Yo, why you calling it a locker? lol and how come you didn't try to an axle out of a Interceptor that has 3:55 gearing?
@davidfindley15882 жыл бұрын
You guys should enter that Vic. in the Freedom 500 next year. 500 mile race for mostly stock crown Vic's only. Get in touch with Cleetas McFarland at the Freedom Factory for more details.
@ytgre77672 жыл бұрын
First Dave that's not even his real name and the guy is a clown so why would some reputable KZbin channel want to talk to a bunch of clowns
@davidfindley15882 жыл бұрын
@@ytgre7767 that's your opinion. Like but hole's everybody's got one why not let him decide for himself but you wouldn't be able to run yo pie hole. Hahahaha
@chrisbowie60192 жыл бұрын
@@ytgre7767 a clown that runs the fastest stick shift gm in the country
@berniceperry88982 жыл бұрын
Ive got an emaculate 01....
@charleschapman24282 жыл бұрын
I can't believe they didn't even start it up 👎
@bryanbrunk11862 жыл бұрын
Town car brakes and rotors are better
@fordfairlane662dr2 жыл бұрын
Using Mustang rear springs on a Crown Victoria this sounds stupider than a box of rocks
@donaldconnolly2202 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem that I know for a fact exists with those cars is there extremely heavy I have watched highway patrol and police car spin around in circles trying to make turns at high speeds...... I would gut the living crap out of that thing.
@carsonmeyer28082 жыл бұрын
Not really. They are pretty planted cars.
@jimr57032 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or was anybody else cringing when he dangled the front calipers by their stock hoses...
@Titans21382 жыл бұрын
Lol damn, every comment is talking shit. I will say, those rotors practically jumped off of the car. That has not been my experience.
@JoedolfShitler2 жыл бұрын
another junk build
@BigRed11512 жыл бұрын
Put a softer spring under the car instead of just cutting the OEM. Just completely remove what makes the P71 great in the first place. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@johnmirbach23382 жыл бұрын
🤓👍✌️👌🖖😎
@montgomery61042 жыл бұрын
👍👍🇺🇲 Lgb
@madduck6920022 жыл бұрын
The music has inspired me to delete this channel. Peace