Turning An Old Crown Vic Cruiser Into A Track Panther - Part 1 - Carcass S3, E6

[@PowerNationTV]

Watch another Crown Vic build: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJzPe6mgnqmUj8k

[@SKATETOSLAYER]

As a Vic owner, so happy to see more Vic episodes on here. I'd love to have a J mod on mine.

[@johnmartin560]

I bought my '04 with the J-Mod done by the previous owner. Its just as good as everyone says it is. It shifts quick, & smooth under normal driving, but will chirp the tires on the 1-2 shift under full throttle even with a bone stock 4.6.

[@silicon212]

The J-mod is very easy to do and the only thing that you need to be careful of is the torque on the bolts for the valve body. A little drilling of the sep plate and deletion of some strategic accumulator springs and the transmission gets a whole new attitude. I did this on my 2005 when I rebuilt the trans on it back in 2016, and I've done this to most of the 4R70 transmissions I've built since.

[@MrRandomReviews]

the plugs and coils can be changed WITHOUT removing the entire fuel rail system or even the throttle body lol. cant wait to see what they do with this one. #SaveTheVics

[@bloon_buster6596]

Godfather🙏

[@kellyvontese4365]

crown vic GODFATHER has joined the chat😆🔥

[@troyt2544]

He said he did it to make it easier

[@baronvonfixstuff5563]

Waste of time for flat rate,lol

[@xOGKuSh]

I've done the tune up on my crown vic both with and without removing the throttle body. removing the throttle body does help. But I think removing the fuel rails would be overkill in the name of making more working room.

[@lightning7582]

It's about time that the panther platform gets some love!

[@MechanicMal11]

I have a 2004 crown Vic. There not lying, mods are super cheap and reliable. I have almost 200,000 miles on it and it runs like it’s brand new

[@BigDaddy28027]

They forgot the Lincoln towncar as part of the panther platform!

[@omegarugal9283]

also the towncar L is the only long wheel base panther

[@maxp4417]

@@omegarugal9283 technically the crown vic taxis are alao

[@Phantom0fTheRouter]

@@omegarugal9283 - The wheelbase is only 3" longer than the Crown Vic and Grand Marquis.

[@toddsonic]

Other than the P70 North America taxi's and some GCC countries which the public could buy long wheelbase Crown Victoria's and Grand Marquis. For us NA the only option was the Town Car and Town Car L.

[@daviedood2503]

Wow what's the real differences between them? Pros cons? I'm looking to get one cheap don't care about looks just functionality

[@ja-bv3lq]

I pushed one of those as a patrol cop for many years. The brakes sucked, the handling sucked, they weren't fast by any measure... but they were TOUGH cars! I did things to those cars that would make an owner of a 1970's pickup cringe; yet the Crown Vic just kept f'n going. I don't miss that part of my career, but I do miss that battleship of a car!

[@Phantom0fTheRouter]

They are a little floaty at speed in a straight line, but sit down and behave when cornering. And you can always kick it to get it to drift those tighter corners and 180s.

[@ja-bv3lq]

@@Phantom0fTheRouter I would say "a LOT" floaty at speed. 😁💛

[@silicon212]

@@ja-bv3lq Depends on the model year. The '03+ are a different animal than the earlier ones. My '05 is nowhere near as floaty at high speed as my old 1988 9C1 was.

[@georgegrierson]

I've used seafoam products for a few years now. I like them to stabilize gasoline, and for the top end treatment through the throttle body. The top end treatment requires a heat soak - after spraying it in, you shut off the engine and allow the seafoam to be absorbed. It's always fun driving the vehicle afterwards because of the billows of smoke that this generates. I use the seafoam in the crankcase but only when I am coming up to an oil change (within 300 miles). I find that it does an amazing job of cleaning any gummy deposits, and the way I can tell is how dark the oil appears when it drains. Deep Creep is a good product as well. If I have any criticism it is that seafoam is so expensive.

[@safn1949]

25% Cleaner>Naphtha 60% Stabilizer>Kerosene 15% Oxygenate> Isopropyl Alcohol (common Rubbing Alcohol) that's it. Garbage.

[@georgegrierson]

@@safn1949 amazing how garbage works so well...

[@safn1949]

@@georgegrierson amazing how dumb people are to buy this shit.

[@TaylorMadejdm1975]

I'm hanging on my seat for the next part to this series as I have a 05 Crown Vic myself that I'm slowly working on and this is pure entertainment as well as motivation so keep it up guys come on with it.! ( and don't forget Volvo makes an electric hydraulic power steering pump that everybody's using on conversions on KZbin there's plenty of videos also don't forget your underdrive pulley and your electric water pump on eBay that's bill it aluminum for $150!)👍🍺

[@johnwagner4559]

I installed a transgo kit in my 4t65e 03 buick lesabre. Shortens the shift cycles. Cures hard shifts which is extremely common in the 4t65e's. Works beautifully and easy to do. Best $100, (encluding filter and fluid), I've spent on the car.

[@BoardwalkBullies]

Shift kit for the 4R70W is technically free had they done the J mod (remove just the bottom springs in the 1-2 and 2-3, drill separator plate, upgrade reverse and OD servos). Since the car is newer than 1998 the last 2 aren't necessary. Just combine that with a tune and a Marauder Torque converter. The car already has a 3:55 rear so you're set with that.

[@bertgrau3934]

Boardwalk, The 3.55 rear gear would explain why my Lincoln accelerates pretty fast.

[@BoardwalkBullies]

@@bertgrau3934 only the police cars and Marauders have them. The Town Car has 3.08 or 3.27. All of them after 2001 are relatively quick but the police cars have an advantage.

[@BoardwalkBullies]

Actually I'm wrong, the town car "L" with the extended wheel base in the back seat had an optional 3:55.

[@bertgrau3934]

@@BoardwalkBullies Thank you for all the information, mine is a 2001, signature series. What ever rear it has it does seems to accelerate pretty good. With 140,000 miles it still runs very well and gets 23-24 MPG some times I have got as much as 25 MPG . Again thanks for all the information.

[@BoardwalkBullies]

@@bertgrau3934 no problem. If it is an 01 you have the PI engine so again it's going to be quicker than the previous ones. My favorites are the 96/97. I wanted to PI swap my 97 badly but I ended up getting an 07 mountaineer with the 300hp 3v instead and sold the town cars. Fun cars even today!

[@LITTLE1994]

So nice seeing people turning Crown Victorias, especially old police versions, into what they should be.

[@geraldscott4302]

Dorman makes a transmission pan with a drain plug for the Crown Vic. It's better than the stock pan, and a lot less messy. Part #265-813. I change my fluid and filter every 27,000 miles, but I change just the fluid every 9,000 miles, or every three oil changes. No pan removal needed. Be careful replacing the spark plugs. They like to strip out on the 4.6L.

[@derekverrastro1473]

Pro tip on that cross member. Leave one of the bolts in it but loose. Swing the one end down. If you remove it all the way, its a real pain to get back into place.

[@silicon212]

A floor jack effortlessly pops it back in place. It's self-aligning, so if you put it near where the through bolts go through, it will automatically align when you press it back into place.

[@Chef-James]

Good tip.

[@wallfly0131]

Got it! Buy everything Seafoam sells 🤔

[@JustInCases72]

Great build. Love the Vic. And the paint reminded me of a 1970s AMC Javelin RED WHITE AND BLUE. Fun racing and like my old race car back it the 90s and early 2000s I called the race team seat of the pants racing. Cheap racing is the best way to start

[@nexpro6118]

upgrading the front and rear sway bars on the, P71/P7Bs is such a massive upgrade on the feeling and handing, especially at higher speeds. it's one of the first things I upgrade on the P71/P7Bs I've owned. rear is 17mm and fronts are 29.5 stock. I go to, 1 inch rear and 1 1/4 front. sssooooo much better and it's cost is just around, 465 for both! definitely worth every penny. adding cold air intakes and not doing anything else and not doing a retune with the new cold air, does nothing lol. I'm currently on my 2nd ownership of a private security patrol company and since my first in, 2008 until now, 2022, I've now owned a total of, 9 P71/P7Bs. since, 2008 i have only has to replace 1 transmission. ironically, it was the lowest mileage vic. lol bought it in, 2009 and it was a, 2005 with just 51k miles on it, after I got it at the auction, drive it back to the office just about 70 miles away and blew the transmission (that same day) paid, 3800 for it and I put in a brand new transmission with a shift kit added to it, costing 2400 bucks. worth it still. that vic lasted until 2017. 8 years of service and retired it with, 198k miles on it. the only upgrade I do after getting one is, upgrading the front and rear sway bars. gives my staff a much better feeling vehicle to drive and adds safety. eliminates under and over steer. obviously also, reduces body roll by a ton. I also try to get ones with rear gear ratio of, 3.27. it's the gear ratio for the police versions with best MPG. police vics can have the, 3.55 and 3.73 gears as well. mist highway departments order the 3.73 gears for best acceleration since thet typically have to go from 0 to really fast all the time on the highways catching up to speeders

[@crownrick]

Love my 2007 Crown Vic! Glad to see and learn a little more about these cars! Thanks, guys!

[@troydority265]

3:44 so we're just not gonna talk about that??

[@georgegrierson]

Yeah, I noticed it too... awesome.

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

Yeah it’s funny because I get so many people who don’t think these are trackable cars 😂

[@troydority265]

@@WarriorOfEden3033 bruh the police cruiser

[@CaptainCJ97]

Nice, Man I just imagine what ford could do with the platform now a days if they didn't stop making them

[@UltimateCamaroFan]

I've done plugs on my marquis so often, I've never had to remove the tb or the fuel rail lol. Takes like 20 minutes. Neat to see the shift kit install, I'd imagine it wouldn't be too much fun working with the springs lying on your back tho

[@erict1144]

Same

[@dylanadkins3491]

These cars used to be super cheap. But they're getting pricey. People keep destroying them unfortunately 😕

[@kierancarter8369]

Notice they didn't say cheap when they first started talking about it.

[@Terminxman]

@@kierancarter8369 They actually said "super cheap" right at the beginning

[@dylanadkins3491]

@@kierancarter8369 literally at 52 seconds into the video.

[@1212sman]

I blame Cleetus McFarlain.

[@eb972]

I blame Garett Mitchell

[@mysticstarhf9265]

I'm surprised they didn't replace the intake manifold; the biggest failure point on an old Panther.

[@patrickfullan9509]

You forgot the Town Car(Panther Platform). Basically P71 Crown Vic's are fun cars that were built to be abused.

[@kierancarter8369]

This is a great platform to do a frame swap on old F series trucks, if you can find one.

[@dillanhamilton]

I swapped the 03+ front suspension under my 65 f100

[@lbh002]

The car show that is not like the other car shows. Cool!

[@Pzkpfw18]

My 2011 CVPI has been the best daily I’ve ever had

[@lawofliberty3517]

Cool stuff guys.....cant wait till the next one. I have a 01 I'm daily driving and slowly working on.

[@lawofliberty3517]

Small V8 bro

[@lawofliberty3517]

Bilstein shocks, new upper and lower ball joints, sway bar end links, new intake, NGK plugs, accel coils. Just to maintain it......goals= Massive Traction System for the rear, coil overs on front, trans shift kit(want to manual swap actually), edlebrock performer jr intake, 650 carb or a mustang intake and keep the fuel injection. Get gears out of explorer for the rear, weld the frame to the body, and do some weight loss. She was a free ride and all I'll have in it is cost of parts. It's tough though, this economy sucks ass.

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

@@lawofliberty3517 these don’t have a carburetor

[@WarriorOfEden3033]

@@lawofliberty3517 the edlebrock intake is unnecessary unless you of FI or big cam NA

[@lawofliberty3517]

@@WarriorOfEden3033 I know they are FI. I would like to switch to carb. Do away with alot of the electrical systems. Plus, building a daily driver is a long arduous task. Here soon I'm going to park it. Full brake upgrades, high volume oil pump, timing chain kit are in. I have a Hemi Durango but she is a hungry hippo, dont like dailing it either.

[@1013Psychosis]

3:44 I recognize that old police cruiser. Didnt know you guys filmed out here in tn. Pretty cool

[@christopherflynn5359]

It's a Charlie Browns "engine & trans rebuilt" but dangit I lost the receipts.

[@KellenS128]

As i watch the beginning of this episode I hope Ol’ Cleet gets some credit for making a build like this as popular and relevant as it is right now.

[@ImTheJoker4u]

+1

[@Toxic2T]

Indeed

[@StumpyVanLife]

totally unnecessary to remove fuel rails or throttle body to change spark plugs. I get pulling the transmission for the television audience, but lets not make an easy job look harder.

[@joefederico1501]

Finally an episode I can copy with my car

[@willkarney3920]

as a p71 vic owner look into canshift paddle shifters if you don't want to Manual swap it

[@MrCrazyking81]

Y'all just love driving down South Hall Road and through leiper's Fork

[@jfruser]

So...what did the Sea Foam do for the CVPI? Dump it in and then never talk about it again?

[@Fred_Durst1]

its a sponsor sooooo yeah basically nothing of relevance

[@AndyFromm]

Nice build

[@otsenres1636]

The funnel segment 😆

[@pascalhumphrey]

that deep creep, didnt do any creeping on those exhaust bolts

[@Hawkers02]

Gravity my guy

[@Chef-James]

You noticed that also. Ha Ha.

[@Matp345]

This episode made me feel stupid, I never thought to use an engine stand as a trans stand. 😅

[@Pink_hat_guy]

seafoam - $9.00, berryman's b-12 chemtool - $3.00 . . . same exact thing for 1/3 of the price.

[@BobbyOfEarth]

Seafoam is a great product. How about some anti-seize for the plugs: ..looks like they saved $1

[@josephbusby4625]

You need to go watch project farms episode on sea foam and b12

[@jamesbjones97]

Sponsored product

[@Pink_hat_guy]

@@josephbusby4625 it's the exact same chemicals. do you read labels? videos can be manipulated for results

[@josephbusby4625]

@@Pink_hat_guy he even has the SDS sheets to compare chemical ingredients. I'm not saying b12 isn't a good product but when it comes to carbon sea foam is hard to beat.

[@1212sman]

Why'd you put the trans treatment in it when you were going to dump the fluid anyway? Why not wait til you put the shift kit in it and refilled the trans to add the treatment?

[@mr.louweeziana122]

So for your seafoam motor treatment do you just leave it in until your next oil change or you do an oil change after the lubricant has cycled through all engine components????

[@reaperasylum]

I never had to pull injectors for changing plugs, must just make it faster.

[@nerbs101]

yeah that was surprising for me too, I didnt have an issues on my 00 grand marquis.

[@aubreycaldwell5160]

Done hundreds of these cars and never pulled the fuel rail. Definitely just more work.

[@maxp4417]

You can definitely get to all the plugs with only the coils and air inlet pipe removed

[@orxt]

Worked on a fleet of these, never once removed the T/B or injectors for the spark plugs. If the intake was being replaced I did do the plugs.

[@mr.louweeziana122]

I have head and cam combo on my crown victoria with the seafoam products you used will that affect any of those items???

[@msmelanieandjaxx]

The only thing I change in my crown vic was the dash because of the holes made by the police Equipment

[@jasonmorales1846]

You would think after all these years manufactures would design a trans pan that would have a drain plug built into it!

[@ivanmitchell3876]

ford

[@Chef-James]

Well my Ford's, including my current P71, never had a plug. My Nissan Titan with the glorious VK56 does.

[@CathyInBlue]

If I recall correctly, that transmission cross-member is actually an interference fit. So tight doesn't begin to describe it.

[@kennethelliott5985]

Yall should do an ecoboost T-bird build

[@josephmatuszak3855]

There is a literal ton of weight you can remove from that vehicle. So, gonna put some real gear ratio in the rear? maybe figure out a way to make a nice shifter (maybe take a mustang or relative year range that would look factory?)

[@Harley.Davidson]

The car dude gets sick riding in the back seat of a sedan on a track. 🤣

[@anon58973]

Who sponsored the video let me guess

[@silicon212]

also, taking off the throttle body and the fuel rails is overkill; one needn't do that in order to get the coils and plugs out.

[@krisgilmore6844]

I'd love to buy one of these and get it to Australia 2011 Crown Vic LX one of my my dream cars

[@Phantom0fTheRouter]

@@P71Capt. - Interceptor with X5 axle code has better suspension and a Trac-Lok 3.27:1 rear, but is computer limited to 129MPH.

[@P71ScrewHead]

How much you willing to pay?? Check out my 09 P71 with some custom mods..

[@joecain88]

can l put a 2011 P7B in a 2003 P71? engine gone and 2011 body totald!

[@maattjonnes1522]

where'd yall find it this clean

[@zerox7613]

We would like to see a coyote swapped crown 😊vic😊

[@jasoncarpenter4116]

That would be really nice, but I imagine that they would LS swap one first since it is a little more easily done.

[@zerox7613]

@@jasoncarpenter4116 either way we would like to see a swapped crown vic

[@Oldskul-iz4om]

Zero X, I agree with you completely!! I own an '03 P71 and an '06 P71, with no compression on #4 cylinder. Looking at doing a complete Coyote 5.0 w/6 spd trans, out of a wrecked Mustang. Because, according to KZbin, Mustang's are wrecking and taking out crowds and car shows, on a weekly basis!!🤣😂🤣😂

[@Chef-James]

Crown Vic P71 are getting a lot more expensive and harder to find. I wanted to see the cross member go back in

[@imranabbasi7871]

Good luck 👍ford crown Victoria

[@stevereinhart4067]

Pretty much just an infomercial.

[@bradenkowal8117]

Thats how tv shows work if you havent noticed.....

[@djstubbyh8166]

can you do an episode dedicated to best matching cam, torque converter, gear ratio, and tire height? Engine dynos are great, but there's lots more to making a car quick.

[@mr.louweeziana122]

Do y'all also remember the shifter kit part# ,

[@MatthewSmith-to1hz]

I prefer the chevy caprice with a 350 LT1, but yeah can't go wrong with a crown vic.

[@crownvic4.693]

What year is this crown Vic ?

[@Shaqshaq_pov]

Wow two years later another crown Vic whatever happened to the last one you guys should do more of these

[@Chef-James]

Should drilled out the pan and welded in a bung for a drain plug.

[@Chef-James]

Track car I'd of stuffed 4.11 gears in the back. If the sanctioning body allows it obviously.

[@silicon212]

On the police interceptors, those cars with P71 or P7B in the VIN, there exists a pretty beefy transmission cooler. This isn't necessary to upgrade - the cooler is pretty substantial and is mounted in front of the radiator (separate cooler along with power steering cooler on 2003-2005, the lower 1/4 of the AC condenser on 2006+). This is an air to liquid cooler, not a liquid to liquid heat exchanger that's found on stock duty vehicles.

[@bmstylee]

This was interesting the first time when Tommy and that other guy built one up.

[@carsontoopes837]

You crown vic wouldn't be finishing high on the race braket with a power Robbing Doman intake!

[@Pink_hat_guy]

when a ford owner says "i blew my tran-knee" he ain't talking about a transmission.

[@andrewmichaelcrook340]

Hi I have a challenge get your hands on a Australian straight 6 twin overhead cam barra engine that with a turbo 2000 at the wheels Andrew

[@scorpionf1504]

Liked it better when they called it "Neighbor". Been watching Cleetus since Neighbor was a dude.

[@SAMPLETEXT285]

Anyone else notice the previous police department left a whelen siren mounted behind the grill?

[@AnnatarTheMaia]

Come on! The manual transmission conversion is what would have been really interesting, not futzing around with a dumbass automatic!

[@deathraydave]

LETS GOOOO

[@jamesblackwood667]

I aint ever been this early...

[@evanmanochio]

As an owner of a 2008 ford crown victoria and a panther platform enthusiast this video was hard to watch.

[@silverfischdotnet]

But you did it anyway, then came down to the comments...

[@evanmanochio]

@@silverfischdotnet good observation

[@mackenzienowak6346]

wow in the beginning it was all sponsor after sponsor after sponsor.

[@bukka6697]

Longest Seafoam ad I've ever watched :/

[@cesarmoran7433]

Awesome

[@archangel2781]

Next project; Live-in overland offroader.

[@beeasy4360]

Most used mechanic tool is still the old trusty oil soaked 2x4 always need one lmao

[@peterjames2004]

just for fun modify an old case international tractor or maybe an old farmall h be interesting to ses how much horse power you could make

[@ryancheyne7991]

And the Lincoln

[@buleyauto]

All that work on a car with a Dorman intake. Wonder if they ever realized that and swapped it for an OEM one.

[@bertgrau3934]

They forgot to mention the Lincoln Town Car is the same basic body, frame, engine transmission, drive axle as well.

[@anthroism26mc]

Get this, so are the Mercury Grand Marquis and Mercury Marauder :OOOO whooaa mind=blown

[@Phantom0fTheRouter]

Town Car frame is 3" longer than the Crown Vic and Mercury Grand Marquis and Marauder.

[@bertgrau3934]

@@Phantom0fTheRouter Thank you sir, I'm getting lots of interesting information on the Lincoln Town Car. I didn't know the Town Car was any longer or shorter than the crown Victoria. Good to know it's frame is 3 inches longer

[@Phantom0fTheRouter]

@@bertgrau3934- They are great cars. Your town car being the longest of the last body on frame "land yachts." My own Panther is a Mercury Grand Marquis LS. Got to love the leather couches in our oversized Mustangs.

[@bertgrau3934]

@@Phantom0fTheRouter I never heard them called that but they are a comfortable automobile. Thank you for the information, I have learned a lot about these cars in the last 2 days

[@robertlamble6523]

Good thing I'm not taking that tranny apart because I'd have parts leftover. Kudos to those who are handy, That ain't me

[@sp4604]

are they gonna replace the shitty exhaust system

[@king_shadow_gamer3443]

👏👏

[@mysticstarhf9265]

.....and the Town Car.

[@RD-km4yi]

Somebody aged 3 decades.

[@lesterscrugs2272]

Always use the whole can, no matter what the directions say. Be A Man.

[@BillB]

But heavy on the advertisements don't you think?

[@bradenkowal8117]

Thats how tv shows work if you havent noticed

[@BillB]

@@bradenkowal8117 Thanks, Captain Obvious. How ever would the internet function without you?

[@bradenkowal8117]

Well obviously you need help...you brought it up 🤣🤣

[@dumbestoyster]

Cletus thinks you guys need more original ideas

[@danielvess1780]

I was guuna ask if they were entering it in the freedom 500! Lol

[@LeachimSagrav333]

"Super cheap" not anymore!

[@hulksta3223]

Did he just say, "EXpecially"???????? Am I the only one that caught that??

[@pantherplatform]

What's a Panther?

[@lamesingram5280]

aaaaaand now theyre all over $10k

[@oliverbright1624]

yeah that shit made me loose an engine