'90 Chevy 454 SS vs '94 Ford Lightning F150 MuscleTrux Wars Part 1 - Trucks! S10, E1

It's the start of our MuscleTrux series and to kick it off, it's the oldest matchup in the book, Ford versus Chevy. Ryan's taking a 1990 454 SS Chevy while Kevin's picking a '94 Ford Lightning. Today, we're gonna find out just how much these two trucks will put out in their stock form so each guy can formulate a secret plan to push both of these trucks towards the 400 horsepower mark. Then later in the season, we'll pit them head to head to see which one comes out on top.
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
DynoSpeed Racing, Inc.: 32 point dyno check list.
Flowmaster: Scavenger Y-pipe comes in various sizes.
Matco Tools: HVLP and conventional spray guns.
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Distributor cap, rotor, spark plug wires, spark plugs, oil, air, and fuel filters.
O'Reilly Auto Parts: Spark plugs, air, fuel and oil filters.

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[@minimanadam]

@Robert LaPointe lol.no..no it doesnt

[@Camilo19832001]

Robert LaPointe itll beat them until the POS HEMI engine destroys itself

[@6628guitarhero]

Poor Robert.... Grew up never knowing what's beyond a Dodge 😂 must have been a hand me down like sibling clothes 😂

[@jeffscott3160]

@Robert LaPointe Why does Ford and GM have exponentially more wins in Nascar, Nastruck, NHRA, off road truck racing, ect? Is because Dodge feels SOOOOOO bad for Ford and GM that they let them win time and time again? Oh yeah, aren't they owned by Fiat now? One of the worst reliability ratings an auto manufacturer can get!

[@MrStacy1974]

@Robert LaPointe good luck with that electical system and cheap plastic.

[@WillyG1994]

Kevin and Ryan look like default Autozone and O Riley’s employees

[@30AndHatingIt]

Scathing!

[@NoViews1975]

Except they know what a carb is.....probably.

[@Properformancenutritioncom]

William Gonzalez That’s pretty funny actually.

[@30AndHatingIt]

@@NoViews1975 Bread?

[@robh6638]

That's their goal . It's all about image .

[@HonJazzz]

My first car was a black 94 lightning. I absolutely loved that truck. One day while I was driving and minding my own business, I was hit by a driver who ran a red light. Totaled the truck, but I walked without a scratch. I parted the truck out and now the drivetrain is in a Country Squire Wagon somewhere in Michigan and the body panels that were still good went to fix another lightning. Hopefully one day I’ll drive one again.

[@mattbourgoyne3613]

Dam! sucks about the truck but it possibly saved your life

[@HonJazzz]

@@mattbourgoyne3613 Yeah probably! That’s what’s important at the end of the day.

[@mattbourgoyne3613]

I guess that it didn't possibly save your life it did save your life because you are here today even though it may have not been really really bad but some people die in some accidents that leave you scratching your head wondering how in the hell did they die in such a minor fender bender but it happens but that's when Ford was still "tough" too , at least she still lives on some what anyway kind of like some poor soul that has gotten killed somehow early in their life and ended up helping some other poor soul that was in dire need of a heart and another one needing a kidney or whatever so its like they are still around kind of so lol if you catch my drift

[@HonJazzz]

@@mattbourgoyne3613 This is very true Matt. Thanks for the perspective

[@wadevallbona5314]

I hope to own one soon. I think my wife may be on board

[@Guns_N_Gears]

OMG, that exhaust looks like Stevie Wonder was tryin out a new Harbor Freight welder!

[@nathanhill2044]

rashim kallihar isn’t she lovely

[@sunder5747]

It look like the exhaust came from Harbor Freight too not just the welder 😂

[@Dr.Westside]

It's not the machine. It's the moron operating it.

[@sinformant]

@@nathanhill2044 😂😂😂

[@sinformant]

@@Dr.Westside agreed! I've made weld porn with a little crappy sears and roebuck stick welder back in the day.

[@electric8668]

Neither truck stock is messing with a Syclone or Typhoon.

[@RedfishCarolina]

Yeah I heard what he said and immediately thought "now that's a bunch of horseshit"

[@alonzokincaid1362]

RedfishCarolina yeah right bo

[@tehgzizlauw1787]

@leo c smoked*

[@JoeIsCrazyWillman]

No joke! Almost 300 horsepower in a turbo little V6 little truck... Power to weight, baby. Syclone was a little rocketship.

[@electric8668]

@@JoeIsCrazyWillman Don't forget it is AWD giving it instant traction to get up and go.

[@DUNEATV]

This is my era...I was in high school when these came out!

[@santiceja8758]

And y’all never got one 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@DUNEATV]

Josh C. Hahaa

[@psygn0sis]

1994... I was 13.

[@smartyardhouston]

@@santiceja8758 ive got a 454ss. Still working on it. Its really hard to find things for it. Mainly time and money....😂😂😂

[@Bigshiesty1]

DUNE YXZ I’m in high school right now and I like 2nd gen gm trucks. I find them looking like behemoths!

[@Kenzo-bp1zs]

These trucks look so much better than the new ones out now.

[@bilbobaggins4710]

Hell yeah. I want a chevy of this vintage wirh a LS swap

[@kidamere2408]

No just no

[@kidamere2408]

@@msw7021 no negative

[@InternetDude]

And they’re way more simple and reliable

[@breimer87]

@@bilbobaggins4710 🤮🤢

[@Lexman00]

You guys are bringing back some nice memories. Got a tear in my eye, cause I had that Ford back in the late 90's. I loved her so much.

[@michaelbloom5342]

The transmission in the Ford is not an E40D (ee forty dee), it's an E4OD (ee four oh dee). As in, Electronic shift, 4 speed, OverDrive. Just a little FYI. :)

[@kfstreich4787]

I mentioned the same thing, they just lost their hotroder card

[@miken.4693]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who was bothered by that.

[@alexpayne1523]

What does E40D stand for then?

[@alexcorona]

Michael Bloom they're Chevy guys can't blame them

[@jrod264winmag]

@@alexpayne1523 re-read original comment.

[@Anuskasv0]

454 BB, 230 horses. Sad times in the 90's.

[@jaystein1405]

GM had a pickup with a turbo 4.3l and AWD that made 280hp and 350tq at the time. It'd beat the piss out of that Lightning

[@jeffscott3160]

The poor horsepower/torque specs were not due to GM's design, but directly due to EPA regulators. The engineering knowledge base and technology simply was not up to the level of what the EPA was mandating at the time. Kinda like when they first started mandating EGR and DPF's on diesel trucks. They were horrible when first introduced. While they still aren't a perfect system, they have gotten better and will continue to do so as the technology advances. They should have compared a '93 SS with the '94 Lightning though. Much better comparison as most all trucks get better and better every few years. It doesn't make sense to compare a truck that is 4 years older than the one your comparing it too. Might as well compare a brand new Civic R to a 1978 Camaro. Complete waste of time by these two morons!

[@randomprojectsusa5196]

Jay Stein Not the supercharged Voodoo one

[@jeffscott3160]

@@randomprojectsusa5196 The supercharged Lighting didn't show up until '99. That's an eternity when it comes to engine tech advances. Again, they were comparing early 90's naturally aspirated trucks.

[@R-8.0]

Micheal Hunt Ain’t that the truth lol nowadays you plug a tunner in to get more horse power

[@olov244]

I am a chevy guy, but the lightning was a better truck stock.

[@andrewfotopoulos7766]

Better potential with the 454...

[@saltysteel3996]

There's no replacement for displacement!

[@letsgotomarsman]

Salty Steel turbo, supercharger?

[@olov244]

@@andrewfotopoulos7766 I hope this series finds it

[@alexcorona]

Andrew Fotopoulos lightings got a supercharger later on... Replacement for displacement.

[@backroadracing5449]

A slight giggle came out when he said “Kick a few Syclones to the curb”. Hahaha

[@johnkendall6962]

LOL yea that's not going to happen .

[@theblackwellreport]

man. same. LOL

[@jamarharrison7895]

Lmao i was gonna say the same thing but you beat me to it

[@tskraj3190]

Except it didn't. The Cyclone's Typhoons and Cameos are still the fastest quarter mile pickups.

[@backroadracing5449]

Timothy Isenhart oh I know.

[@nikeboi56dollar]

I’m a Chevy guy but I still have respect for this Ford lighting

[@anthonyhuntley4498]

I appreciate that.

[@timcheek5134]

I am a ford guy but I still have respect for the lighting

[@mayssm]

My dad had a 454 SS. I'm not a truck guy, but I liked that truck. Lot of torque, decent handling for a truck of that time. I always imagined he'd give it to me one day, but someone stole it.

[@adammccallum7493]

8 mpg and 195hp to the wheels😂

[@jrod264winmag]

Adam, nawh 10 mpg's

[@seantaylor2683]

Also 290-300 torque from a package that was all but choked to death by emissions regulations. Let that engine breath and you'd see all three numbers increase

[@jasonvoorhees6657]

Yea but gas was cheaper then

[@jrod264winmag]

@@jasonvoorhees6657 yes, I lived in Wyoming during this time and gas was under a buck a gallon.

[@teds4983]

@Mallard work truck dont get a ton better. 18 wheelers get worse, totally useless. Your right

[@whiskers78753]

I use to own one of those Chevy's 454SS; it's the reason I drive a Toyota Tacoma today.

[@iDrive4fun93]

Plus the 4.0 V6 would leave a 454SS in the dust, let alone the newer 3.5

[@joeblow6127]

That was dumb

[@columbiariverdetailing1943]

I've always been partial to the lightning I just love the way they look and sound

[@Miguelspl150]

This aired back in early 2000 lol brings back memories

[@DaBrute]

Watching this again seriously made me feel 16 again

[@ironpanther2420]

I remember seeing it. I had a 1994 Chevy Cheyenne 1500 as my first vehicle. It only had the 4.3 and I wanted a 454SS in the worst way. Seeing this episode and how easily that truck in the show laid rubber didn't help that any lol

[@mrdumbfellow927]

5:32 Love the piece of mig wire still stuck to that awful exhaust weld on the lightning. :)

[@alexcorona]

Mrdumbfellow did they remove the 02 sensors as well???

[@AtZero138]

All anyone can do is grind away the shame.. you know it's a crap weld when the evidence is just looking you back in the face.. metal holding hands Not a Weld..

[@missingremote4388]

Lol

[@98erics]

@@AtZero138 haha, as they say "Grinders and paint make me the welder I aint"

[@mrdumbfellow927]

@@AtZero138 heh I would say most of my work is just holding hands. Says a lot about the previous owner when they don't even bother clipping that wire though :)

[@danmallery9142]

Really wish Ford would make a Lightning again. Love the Raptor but a sport truck would be a nice addition.

[@dheujsnrhfydhehehshshhdggsd]

This was best. Real project, real budget.

[@deansapp4635]

Later 454SS trucks gained 20hp to 255, 4speed od trans and 4.10 limited slip gears. Vast improvement over this truck

[@smokesgtp]

Yep, much more expensive now though

[@mattmc8391]

Yes , Thank You

[@lanemorrow5513]

It might be able to keep up with the Ford then LOL

[@swampfoxpicks6908]

@@lanemorrow5513 the fORd obviously had been modified and had no cats.

[@mungaloyd1]

That ford was slow for stock...ive had 2 lightnings

[@clayromero4733]

I like how ford can make the same and even more power from smaller blocks

[@kr4t0sg.28]

Pretty much what they are known for.

[@satown2150]

@Dave Micolichek yup yup. when you go to the track almost all those fox body mustangs running 8s and 7s have big block chevys under the hood.

[@bradnimbus4836]

@@satown2150 Lies lies

[@anthonyhuntley4498]

@@bradnimbus4836 he’s telling the truth.

[@bradnimbus4836]

@@anthonyhuntley4498 Not around these parts, he isn't

[@sdlausen1]

Man... that Lightning still looks amazing and fresh design wise in 2019. Love it!

[@Dudafrego7717]

Yea it’s not fat and bulky like the new one, its nice and simple

[@xxxftcxxx]

That is THE ABSOLUTE WORST weld I've ever seen in my entire life in that Ford exhaust... Jesus Christ... They handed a blind man a welder

[@soppingwetburgers6493]

I'm deaf too.

[@jasontucher7011]

I am blind and I do better than that. This seems like after 20 beers to me.

[@forestlawrencegrading9154]

Graduated from the Helen Keller special welding school

[@jasontucher7011]

Rusty Stuff Do you know why Hellen Keller’s leg was yellow? Her dog was blind too!

[@AdmiralRustyShackleford]

Looks like Ray Charles welded it with his feet.

[@LiquidSSSnake]

230 HP from a 454 is a feat of engineering in itself.

[@garyhayes4756]

At the same time they had the syclones and typhoons.

[@drewinhou]

@@lenagdyfigpkhhmossuto9623 And for EPA reasons, they still were limited on what they were allowed to put out hp wise. And car manufacturers just weren't there yet with having a high horsepower fuel injected engines priced for the masses, with low enough emissions to pass the federal regulations. All while getting decent fuel mileage. Fuel injection by the times these trucks were produced had only really been widespread available for 8-10 years. They had along ways to go to get them were they needed to be.

[@michaelprovost5433]

Obviously you've never heard of an LSX

[@michaelprovost5433]

@@lenagdyfigpkhhmossuto9623 Then why would they suggest that its hard to get 230 hp out of a 454?

[@nogamez26]

@@drewinhou You have no idea what your talking about. Fuel injection had been around since the late 70's. The Eldorado was not only fuel injected but front wheel drive. Camaro's and Monte Carlo's in the 80's you could get with a fuel injected 305.

[@chris85mora]

Jesus 200hp out of a 454. That’s embarrassing now days.

[@mrdieselfumes5814]

It is. My 5.3L, 325, makes more power with 225k miles on it.

[@mikegager]

it was embarrassing in 1990

[@mikeschmalz2031]

I used to have a 94 Lightning, slightly modded with intake, exhaust, and a shift kit. Best run was 14.89 at 94mph. I miss that beast.

[@southstreetbarbecue7875]

Always loved the squat aggressive stance of the Lightning.

[@vburke1]

That exhaust on the Lightning is what is known as booger welding.

[@scdevon]

Two Hillbillies with a car battery and a coat hanger, LOL.

[@NoViews1975]

And probably done by a guy named Booger, too.

[@user-ss2ly1ir6j]

We call that look 'chicken shit'. Just plop some on, here and there....

[@bkeith269]

Ford is down 100 cubes and still comes out on top. No surprise.

[@kylepett1]

any motor chevy had in the 90s was a straight up dog then when the introduced the 4.8-6.1 they took the game over because everyone is ls swapping now

[@BUILTFORDTOUGH79]

kylepett1 then ford took the cake with the gen 3 coyote

[@ChrisPBacon-nf3op]

@@kylepett1 LT1's weren't dogs

[@adambrooks2297]

Lmao these are both bone stock trucks with around 100,000 miles on them,at this point who cares,wait and see what happens when the 454 gets properly set up,and the Ford small block gets the same the 454 will destroy the sbf! I remember both trucks when they came out,Ford never could keep up back then!

[@adambrooks2297]

@@BUILTFORDTOUGH79 Ford didn't take anything over, where do you fellas get this crap from? The 90s LT1s killed 302 Fords,then the LS1 came out and the rest is history, the only fast Fords back then needed help with nitrous or boost,they never could keep up NA!

[@alconk7129]

I bought a 454SS new in ‘90 and just by changing the factory air cleaner to a 5” open element along with the Edelbrock intake made a huge difference. Then I changed out the factory y-pipe to the ‘92 SS dual y-pipe with cats and true duals our back completely transformed that truck. Intake and exhaust is choking that big block and you’ll see when you get into it .

[@milkman1026]

I miss waking up on Saturday mornings in high school and tuning in to these shows. The feels man, the feels.

[@adrenaholic1]

Syclone is still the baddest muscletruck ever

[@ReadMyDiscription.223]

If you ever owned a 94 95 lightning, then you know how important it is for the switch that flips the gas tanks to work.

[@jamesprice2163]

My buddy has a f250 with a 460 and dual tanks he uses the secondary tank every three days due to it sucking on gas luckily he just bought a 2.2 s10 for a daily

[@littlebucks912]

2:49 "Kick a few Syclones to the curb." Lmao. Anyone who calls themselves a car guy and doesn't know that the Syclone was the quickest vehicle in 1990 famously gapping a Ferrari in a drag race.

[@Jonboy997]

I remember watching this on Saturday mornings with my grandpa. I love those memories

[@mylanmiller9656]

GM verses ford 454 head to head with a 351 that is about par for the coarse!

[@teceit]

I love how these guys talk about 140,000 miles like high mileage. My Silverado with 297,000 in the driveway is crying listening to them.

[@neilshaw5717]

When he opened the door of that Chevy, I could instantly smell the interior. Weird how some smells just stay in your memory forever.

[@superslow7609]

The lightning takes the cake with looks that truck is beautifull!!!!

[@darrellterry1278]

The lightning was a very nice truck .

[@drewolah1556]

The Gen 1 Lighting is a beast even from factory!!! Love them!! Wish I still had mine!!

[@Braaaap815]

Lmao.. I was relieved to see that the exhaust welds were worse than mine..

[@jessekulbe1855]

"it's a wonder this truck even runs" well it'll run with open headers so I don't think a few bad welds are gonna shut it down

[@alexdelgadillo1569]

That’s 4 years of technology difference

[@royrichardson9164]

And neither truck really changed the years they were made. There really isnt any difference between a 93-95 lightning except 94 later blocks were roller cam ready...

[@Coupydog]

Not so much. Ford was always ahead of Chevy in the Performance realm. The '87-on Musangs ran circles around their Z28 & IROC roadmates.

[@satown2150]

@303StreetMachines been fords go to since then. Just slap a supercharger on everything because our motors can't compete with the modern marvel that is the LS series motors.

[@thekingsservant1104]

When these were new, the Ford walked the 454.....still take the SS. Now had Chevy grown a set of balls and did the 454 right it would have been king!

[@bilbobaggins4710]

Same...Old chevy trucks are just more sexy

[@theman68and1]

The King's Servant almost 30 years later and it still is

[@bilbobaggins4710]

@@theman68and1 no...It's not

[@N1RKW]

It wasn't about balls, they did the best they could given the limitations of the time. That was (sadly) as much power as they could coax out of the old big block and still meet 1990 emissions laws. ALL cars were dogs in the 80's and 90's, as manufacturers hadn't yet figured out how to meet emissions without de-tuning their engines beyond all reason.

[@GUNSLINGEROUTDOORS]

Big blocks from both companies were pooches in that era.. emissions killed alot of power in the 90s.. as far as the chevy looks better, I suppose it's in the eye of the beholder.. but as I wrote in another post I've owned both trucks and both were black, the lightning got more looks than the Chevy.. so you can like which ever.. in my personal opinion the 78-79 fords and box Chevys of the same era kick both their assis

[@MrBaeza1994]

Can’t believe this was filmed in 2019, it seems so old, perhaps early 90’s

[@connorparrish4182]

MrBaeza1994 I was filmed about 10 years ago, I remember watching it when I was about 12.

[@mtb416]

That’s because these truck/car shows continue to follow a rubric that predates even the 90s you think it represents. I prefer it, especially when alternatives are essentially absurd reality TV shows.

[@evdawg7757]

This is older. I watched every episode with my old man every weekend 😂

[@HellaNorCal916]

I won’t to try what you’re smok’n.....🤯

[@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930]

A friend of mine had a red Lightening just like this one,he did some mods on it including a Paxton Supercharger which made it a real drag racing machine,the only other truck that could touch him at the local track was a Dodge RumbleBee. One of them would win one week and the other the next week. Both of them would run the quarter mile in the mid to high 13 second range. That Lightening would plant you in the seat at wide open throttle

[@andrewbelmudez6985]

Because of a high demand for pick up trucks in the US, I think Ford and GM should bring back these two iconic muscle trucks for young truck buyers (who want to haul a*s rather than payload). Same goes with Ram. They need to take this opportunity ASAP before we switch over to electric cars in the future.

[@EDHBlvd]

Love this. That generation of Chevy is still one of my favorites. Loved the step side with a bell tech drop in black.

[@rgbigdog]

Back in 2010 I bought a used 1994 F150 Lightning for $4,500 I put about $1,500 into the truck. New rear tires, new shocks , new parking brake cabel, new Lightning Decals, new plugs , wires, rotor and cap, new vale cover gasket, bought a complete used Bassani equal length shorter headers exhaust system. Had the headers power coated black. Recondition the engine bay and some engine components, new radiator, sway bar links. Went to the auto recycling to get a decent radiator core support to recondition ( the one in the truck was rotten at the bottom) a completed jack and a better coolant/windshield washer tank, new fog lamps, new rubber channels for the door windows. It was a fun truck that got about 10 miles to a gallon of gas. Sold the truck in fall of 2012 for the same amount that I bought it for.

[@XploreAz]

You did all that for $1,500? Impressive.

[@chefderappa4838]

That would cost way more today lol

[@rgbigdog]

@@chefderappa4838 LMC Truck saved me a lot of money the hardware to mount the reconditioned radiator core support was about $150, the dealer parts department was around $300. Also RockAuto was a big money saver. The owner of the Auto Salvage yard is a friend so any parts that I bought from him I got a killer deal on them.

[@coty397]

My grandpa daily drove a lightning when I was a kid as a daily driver. I literally watched him use it to haul hay. I’m not a ford guy but there is a certain amount of nostalgia I get when I see a lightning.

[@mariot3708]

That man that ran that show was a real man! Think about most of us man used to wake up early sunday morning as we are used to waking up M-F for work. And knows about our daily routine, work and work on cars... this man is a real business man. Great shows.

[@2010HarleyDynaFXD]

GMC Syclone would smoke both of those trucks stock.

[@johngregg9187]

It weighs a lot less than both of these trucks

[@3madeamps]

You dam right

[@teds4983]

@@dufus2273 funny guy

[@austinlafleur1484]

O no shit, the syclone didn't even weight 4000lb it was all wheel drive backed up with a 4.3 Turbo'd engine that was a little truck that got a reputation for smokin Ferraris in the 90s what's a lighting and a 454!? Ya know!👌

[@austinlafleur1484]

But im not gonna lie the lighting and the 454 were pretty badass

[@huculak302]

Haha, the ford makes like 35 more hp and the same amount of torque with 103 less cubes

[@sonofthesheriff]

It's an emission game. You dont think the same ford product would have beat out the 454 Chevy in 1970 do you?

[@huculak302]

sonofthesheriff no but a 1970s 460 would which is equal

[@willc3586]

And a whole 3 hundredths of a second faster because it's doing what a normal ford does. Sucking at putting the power on the ground.

[@85MasterV]

@@willc3586 Its 3 tenths, not 3 hundredths. Which if you were a drag racer, you'd know is a lot.

[@PeeterPuncher]

@@willc3586 tenths, not hundredths....on a hundred less cubes.

[@matthewkrisowaty7053]

I got the black ford lightning in 93 off the show room floor first day I saw it.. went in for a 4 wheel drive pickup in January..upstate New York.. saw the Black Death sitting inside.. salesman said wanna drive it.. well hell yes..drove it like it was built to do.. man it was a blast .. I mostly loved how well it stuck to the road . It was like a slot car with both gas tanks filled. So yes when I returned to the dealer I got Black Death that day . The smiles on my face driving her home .. I lived 10 miles away..think I got home 6-7 hrs later.. OH yes the Long Way home.. lol

[@klefusmcdonald2644]

Thought I slept and woke up in 1995, well done video, well done.

[@Iconhulk]

Lightning anyday of the week, twice on Sunday..

[@zacharymurdock6721]

Geez this episode takes me back, I remember watching this a long time ago, on Spike TV! PowerBlock is probably one of the many reasons why I work on cars professionally now! 👨🏼‍🔧

[@calebmurphy9082]

Blast from the past! SS454 Ford lighting cyclone/typhoon I really miss those days..

[@rcbronco]

I was happy to click on this to watch it but realized I saw this same video about 10yrs ago.

[@tomnekuda3818]

Love that coat-hanger weld job on the Ford....LOL!

[@jayyoutube8790]

I had a truck with that 454 back in the 90’s. It was such a dog..

[@painterboy454]

I got to experience a brand new 454 SS run against me twice in the quarter mile in Youngstown Ohio in 1990. It was a 16 second truck.

[@painterboy454]

@Steven Lindsey, the 1988 Police Package Caprice with an LS5 454 and nitrous I was racing ran a 13.2 WELL ahead of that truck, lol.

[@Westtxcowboy100]

I use to spank those 454 ss's with my 89 chevy stepside back in the day, only thing done was headers, lil more than stock cam, they were lame!

[@waterloo123100]

Steven Lindsey Your Corolla is almost 20 years newer obviously it’s gonna have more power. Everyone knows American v8s struggled to make good power after the Emission laws took place. If you were to carburetor/head swap that 454. It would be making at least 400 hp to the wheels.

[@waterloo123100]

Steven Lindsey Yeah if you want to make more then 500 hp to the wheels. There’s plenty of low compression 454’s making mid 400 hp with just a top end swap. All depends on your build.

[@Long-nd8bq]

I've seen middle school kids who can weld better than that. Love the trucks. Grew up in the 80's and 90's and I love trucks. My 91 GMC stepside I'm building to be a muscle truck. I have taken off all the chrome (mirrors, grille, bumpers) and put on the 454 SS mirrors, color matched front bumper, roll pan in the rear, took off the emblems and rubber trim. Just painted it all fresh dark gray last summer. Needs a drop and some wheels now. It has no cats, EGR delete, K&N filter, injector pod spacer, Hypertech "salad bowl", 3" flowmaster 40 series dumped, B&M shift kit (chirps second easily), timing advanced at the distributor, 180 degree t-stat, and electric fan. Would love some 4.10 gears and Detroit true trac.

[@spreaddeezhazelnutz7511]

The 1st gen Lightnings look cooler than the 2nd gens in my opinion.

[@JoeIsCrazyWillman]

I am on the other side. The late 90s stepside is possibly my favorite F150 body ever... And that Supercharger whine.... Winning!!!

[@driveitlikeyastoleit55]

If ya'll actually think that lightning would beat a syclone you've been smoking crack.

[@irlredline7965]

Drive it Like ya stole it I’m saying

[@Lightning546]

Obviously you've never driven a Lightning, if you had of, you would know that the statement you just made is wrong. The 1st gen Lightnings were nice trucks, and the 2nd gen ones were even faster. My 2000 Lightning ran mid 9's in the quarter on street tires and pump gas, it also wasn't stock. To get those numbers I installed aJohhny Lighnting 8 lb lower pulley with belt, 92mm throttle body, an Anderson Motorsports Cold air kit, K&N air filter, Yellow top Optima battery, a transmission shift kit, a superchips chip with multiple programs that were fine tuned on the dyno and tweaked after drag strip runs, replaced the factory mufflers with Spintech mufflers and a Cervini fiberglass (functional) Ram Air hood.

[@driveitlikeyastoleit55]

@@Lightning546 I was referring to a stock first gen lightning vs. a stock syclone. I'm well aware of how fast the blown lightnings can be with a few mods.

[@FernandezCycles]

4:43 my phone died

[@dustinpowell5981]

This was the best weekend show in school. Then on Monday morning you get to go into auto class and pretend you knew this shit already 🤣

[@30AndHatingIt]

Screw brand loyalty... I would love EITHER of these trucks!

[@slowpoke4321]

Never been a big Ford guy but that’s one Ford I’ve always wanted

[@212acres3]

When I started driving I always wanted one of these bad boys! Heck I still want one!

[@davescbradiorepair8195]

I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A FORD GUY AND LOVE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE LIGHTNING IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN QUICKER THAN THE 454 SS. I HAVE A 454 IN A CHEVY TRUCK NOW AND IT'S NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT. I WILL BE GETTING ANOTHER LIGHTNING VERY SOON.

[@Tim_the_Astronurd]

@303StreetMachines that was the slowest 1/4 Ive ever witnessed

[@curlylarrymoe]

Its amazing how little power that giant 454 puts out.

[@shawnd567]

Variable valve timing is a god send.

[@ThePokessmot]

They were chocked bad from factory very cheap to wake up the 454 seen it many times

[@nothingtoseehere177]

The polite jabs they throw back and forth are great haha

[@sinformant]

5:41 😂i love how they even left a piece of mig wire hanging from the garbage welds! Looks like stevie wonder works part time in a muffler shop.

[@breimer87]

A piece of wire. More like several pieces lmao. Booger welds haha

[@breimer87]

A piece of wire. More like several pieces of wire haha. Booger welds lmao

[@sinformant]

@@breimer87 yeah I commented that before they got to the rest of the exhaust😂 sad to say I was welding 5 x better than this before I was even in highschool. Built my own exhaust for my f150 when I was 17 and all we had was a oxy acetylene torch and a stick welder from the ww2 era. Hell I even took two sections of pipe and pie cut then with a sawzall , welded them back together and made a large cowbell exhaust tip.even made the thing shoot flames with some primary wire, a switch, and old coil,and spark plug. I couldn't even imagine kids these days doing any of that.They are too busy with their fortnite, or whatever game is out lol

[@montanaplease]

That's what you get with unions

[@2jzs13]

Damn The nostalgia! I watched these episodes when i was in middle school

[@user-ss2ly1ir6j]

Lame production. Just a bunch of wanna-be's

[@Nick-qs4re]

This was in my era too. I had a 1994 Dodge Dakota sport with a 318 and 5 speed manual trans. These 2 trucks got to see my taillights on a regular basis.

[@josephduplessis868]

I knew a guy with a 5sp 318 Dakota reg cab around '99. He embarrassed a couple of 5.9 rt Dakotas at the track. Those were some. >R< eal. >T< urds back then

[@YungEagle3k]

Those 454s are absolute dogs

[@otsenres1636]

I like the crossovers to other shows and hosts! 😎

[@kramnull8962]

I guess when you have millions of dollars backing you, a cheap little Rear main seal isn't important...

[@soppingwetburgers6493]

Mustabeenoverlooked mhmm

[@reallyhappenings5597]

what's so bad about a RMS?

[@SiriusC1024]

When you're able to do the work yourself it's still just a cheap little rear main seal.

[@scdevon]

The leaking rear main seal isn't hurting anything for now. It's more of an annoyance and it probably only leaks when the engine is shut off anyhow.

[@shanespriggs5525]

The welding wire still hanging from the "weld".... 😂😂😂

[@user-ss2ly1ir6j]

Absolute garbage video. Just a bunch of hacks pretending to be cool

[@yung2ts21]

Kick a few Syclones to the curb he says 🤣🤣🤣🤣 EEEEEHHHH WRONG next 😂

[@Coronet_shop]

They should of came with a 5 spd from the factory

[@anthonywebber2211]

@Robert LaPointe He meant manual transmission, not automatic transmission

[@eizzle78]

Robert LaPointe my 2016 Jeep Cherokee is a 9 speed auto. It doesn’t get any better mileage than my 4 speed Mazda.

[@noelmedina6925]

@Robert LaPointe the current 10 speed that Ford and Chevy share is great, it shifts faster than any person could and because of the amount of gears it gets better gas milage and accelerates faster than a 5 speed manual could.

[@eizzle78]

Robert LaPointe both are 4 cylinders, 4x4 Jeep, it averages around 26 mpg, my Mazda with a couple mods would average 28.

[@SGTJDerek]

@@noelmedina6925 while all that is true, it's also a hell of a lot more expensive. A simple clutch is a damn sight cheaper to replace than those shift packs. I WISH my '93 had an NV4500.

[@GUNSLINGEROUTDOORS]

Ive owned both trucks.. the lighting kicked the crap out of the ss.. but tons of performance parts out for the 454 and the 351w so both can be a great truck.. but personally ill choose the lighting everytime it was just a better platform..

[@bradzimmerman3171]

F150 has always been a better truck , everyone knows it but blowhard Chevy fans try real hard to bs their way through

[@jeremyyazzie3474]

Have a 98 k1500 5.7 5 speed Z71 strong motor. Flowmaster..yeah. Passing many fords on the road

[@OneForTheSouth]

My neighbor banged my cat in what he called a D-Shape. I had him arrested and had to have my kitty put down. The D-shaped exhaust thing brings back bad memories...Just fucking with you, great channel!

[@AMCmachine]

Little remembered today, the late '70s GMC 454 Street Coupe pickup was an early answer from GM to Mopar's Li'l Red Truck, Warlock and Midnight Express.

[@jamest.5001]

A 4L80 would be awesome, a cam intake , maybe headers, it be Awesomely awesome, a set of aluminum heads, who could ask for more, in a street engine!!

[@hurricanedt77]

Still cant get around the hideous red interior colors that manufacturers used back in the day

[@UBR_MXMU]

I like the idea of having a small block pulling the same power as a big block saving a lot of weight and using most of the engine

[@Bmr4life]

I loved watching this back in the day.

[@williamsanders468]

A reminder that the Ford Lightning carried onto the next body style and the 454SS didn’t

[@Mynamesnotkevin]

Admiral Sandwich you literally have the Silverado SS with the 6.0 as an extended cab

[@williamsanders468]

J Era but is it a big block

[@Mynamesnotkevin]

If you get technical, then NO but the name did carry on. Different engine, same goal.

[@saltysteel3996]

Cuz they had a monster 8.1L 496cc Vortec. Lol

[@Mynamesnotkevin]

Salty Steel the 8.1L is a beast unfortunately it was introduced at the wrong time because just few years after it’s debut the 2008 recession hit and GM had to discontinue it. To much gas, ford can’t compete with GM’s gas engine line up. There Diesel line up is a joke too

[@BoKush]

"Kick a few Syclones to the curb" yea, that never happened....

[@jaystein1405]

Lmao exactly what I thought while watching this.

[@XploreAz]

Exactly.

[@SGTJDerek]

And how many years separated them? Kevin said it best. Even the few years that separated these 2 made a huge difference.

[@BoKush]

@@SGTJDerek well the Syclone was made in 1991. The first lightning was 1993. Even the 2nd gen Supercharged Lightning was slower in the 1/4 Mile.

[@bradzimmerman3171]

bokesch what rock have you been hiding under

[@02stampede]

Both of those trucks were the envy of every high school gearhead back in the 90's. That is, until the supercharged lightning came out..

[@gagegiesen9466]

Ford said we will beat it with a small block 😂😂

[@jasonvoorhees6657]

Small blocks make more horse power fuck head big block makes more tourqe

[@fatman1288]

it kills me to say this but the lightning is way nicer looking than the 454 ss and thats from a GM guy. the 454 ss trucks were a bit boring

[@Texas_Holdin]

Connar Downes no

[@cyan1d3killa]

And thats exactly why im turning my 88 silverado into a sleeper SS.

[@CJColvin]

93-95 Lightnings are my favorite.

[@ronalddonaldson3364]

I'm a Ford Guy. I love my 2009 STX Supercab. 4.6L V-8. I can't complain. 150,000 + miles.

[@AtZero138]

The 90s.. still see some of those Lightings.. and every now and then.. a 454SS..

[@robertsnyder4963]

Remember watching this episode when it first aired. Man, I'm getting old...

[@kfstreich4787]

E-forty-d E-four-oh-Dee That's a letter not a number

[@bradnimbus4836]

Chevy guys, lol

[@a.f-body1vids655]

Just imagine this was your job on PowerNation everyday!