Prague Chimera and US-942 Citrandarin Taste Test

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@sweethomealabamahomestead4504 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the shout out. Very good review. I do get seeds in but not many, most of them come out as satsuma but some do come out as a cross of some kind, I know this since I got one to sprout this year and it has tri leafs and I did not have anything else flowing at the same time.

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@sweethomealabamahomestead4504 Thank you! That's really fascinating it had trifoliate leaves despite no others blooming... I would definitely grow those out to a fruiting age. I've heard reports of some chimeras even being passed onto seedling generations but I'm not sure in this case.

@sweethomealabamahomestead4504 Ай бұрын

@@themulberries I'm going to try and grow all the seeds I get off of the Prague. I would also like to test the cold hardness of the ones that look just like satsuma because they could be more cold hardy then other satsuma. I'll keep the videos coming on these seedlings and if I get more to sprout this year you might want to try one?

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@sweethomealabamahomestead4504 Yes of course! The trifoliate ones sound the most interesting, and I'll germinate the few seeds I obtained and see what comes up. I feel like an entire case study could be dedicated to Prague.

@joman104 Ай бұрын

Wonderful!

@themulberries Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@joman104 Ай бұрын

@themulberries these varieties all look like greatbl options.

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@joman104 Definitely! Prague, Bishop, and US-942 are at the top of the list currently for hardy oranges.

@technoendo Ай бұрын

Wow Prague Chimera made the list! Yup, highly anticipated to hear more about it. Prague may be one of the hardest citrus to get, never heard of anyone selling trees, just cuttings. I know a citrus fiend of a guy in Texas that would love to get Prague but due to citrus quarantine import reasons they've been grumpy about how its even more difficult to get them in CA/TX/FL. Don't the Prague trees look kinda funky like poncirus? Kind of an ugly tree? I still want a couple just for a shot at sweet citrus in a cold hardy citrus zone. Thanks again for all the effort.

@themulberries Ай бұрын

It's very hard to acquire, and Stan McKenzie sold out of them this year. I'm propagating as many as I can for this coming season so hopefully I have a good amount to offer. Getting Prague into Texas legally will be impossible unfortunately, but I know some people will buy the trees outside their state and drive them in. Prague trees look even funkier than Poncirus! They grow in a somewhat weeping habit and their growth can look like it is fighting between being Poncirus or Satsuma. They can definitely be ugly and sparse trees, but they bloom prolifically and look more charming with some fruit in them. It's definitely the best shot at a sweet citrus in a colder zone. I don't know its lower limit but it must be around 0°F at least.

@technoendo Ай бұрын

@@themulberries Incredible. Thanks for the additional details. I'll contact Stan and see if I can get on a list for 4 trees. If you are willing I ask the same from you -- I am interested. I live in Washington State where I could legally receive citrus shipments.

@Russballer Ай бұрын

@technoendo I've been contacting Stan regularly last 2 years and can't seem to ever get any.

@technoendo Ай бұрын

@@Russballer Nods thanks. Its in high demand.

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@technoendo I should have enough trees assuming everything works out. I won't be able to promise anything this early, but I will definitely keep you in mind closer to the Spring! If you get the chance to graft it, be very patient, it's very slow to wake up compared to many other varieties.

@anthonyperron6741 Ай бұрын

So who is gonna cross the 942 and bishop and pass out seeds for the community to do a massive pheno hunt!!??

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@anthonyperron6741 Haha, that would be a fun idea! When I have enough blooms to work with I may try that cross.

@leonpham9391 Ай бұрын

Ohh what a beautiful US-942 i wish i could get them

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@leonpham9391 Where are you located? US-942 is one of the top rootstocks being used right now, there's a chance you may run into trees grafted onto it at some point in the future.

@leonpham9391 Ай бұрын

Thanks I'm from Germany

@raregrowsNJ Ай бұрын

Satsumas can show green on the outside and be fully ripe, looks like the Prague is peak ripe at this color if you found them be almost insipid with low acid + very sweet. Sounds like I can pick mine a little earlier depending on if there is a hard frost in the forecast since I prefer acidic fruit :D. Happy that I chose Bishop and Prague over the other citrandarins although they do have good potential as juicing for ades like you mentioned. I wonder if the citrandarin juice becomes bitter if left standing like some orange juices are known to do?

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@raregrowsNJ I'm right there with you my friend, my wife and I both prefer our fruit on the tarter side, so I wouldn't mind picking mine sooner either! Bishop and Prague are definitely some of the best, and I'm not sure about the juice actually, that would make an interesting experiment.

@gardenofseeden Ай бұрын

Gardener fingers. I got them too.

@themulberries Ай бұрын

Haha, yes my fingers have seen better days.

@MichaelRay380 Ай бұрын

Sorry to bother you again, but where would you recommend to get bishop and Prague plants from? I’m having no luck looking for them, I’m already aware of where I can find us-942 and Changsha.

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@MichaelRay380 Unfortunately you may not be able to find Bishop and Prague plants at this time, but scion wood is more likely. I'm grafting out plants for this Spring.

@MichaelRay380 Ай бұрын

@ would you be the only scion source that you’re aware of? I also have questions about poncirus+, is it the same situation as bishop and Prague? And would you say it’s just as hardy as any other trifoliate, maybe -5 or -10?

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@MichaelRay380 Scions are easier to come by, Stan McKenzie should have Prague scions and you can request the others on the tropical fruit forum. Poncirus Plus shows no indication of being any less hardy than other trifoliate oranges, which could be anywhere between -10°F and -20°F.

@MichaelRay380 Ай бұрын

@@themulberries wow, I didn’t expect zone 5, thank you for the help

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@MichaelRay380 You're welcome. And yes, supposedly they are hardy to zone 5 but in a good microclimate, so ideally in a sheltered/shaded area with protection from the wind.

@Billy.t.94 Ай бұрын

Do you know where I could by a prague

@themulberries Ай бұрын

We will be selling them this coming Spring/Summer. Stan McKenzie would normally have a few but he is sold out at the moment.

@Billy.t.94 Ай бұрын

@@themulberries thank you

@Billy.t.94 Ай бұрын

@@themulberries do yall have a website

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@Billy.t.94 You're welcome! themulberries.org

@ross2398 Ай бұрын

I’ve had some terrible 852s tho!

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@ross2398 Haha, it does happen! I remember one of Stan's trees produced inferior fruit.

@ross2398 Ай бұрын

@@themulberriesThat’s the one I was thinking of, lots of variation in the 852 line.

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@ross2398 For sure! It's a roll of the dice with highly zygotic varieties like US-852.

@MichaelRay380 Ай бұрын

Are 942s typically this size? That one seems pretty big

@themulberries Ай бұрын

@@MichaelRay380 I have only seen a handful of fruits in person, but this one seems average. They can certainly be smaller, however I would still consider this one fairly small fruit.