Pratt & Miller Corvette C6RS Review

[@TheSmokingTire]

when we have top gear money, and can replace the tires on every car we test (the rears cost $950 on the C6RS), then we will go drifting and do burnouts. As it is, I struggle to pay the rent each month to make this show and I can't afford to put new tires on all these cars, so sometimes we cant' do burnouts and drifting in the exotics. Just the way it goes....

[@yasharodin6076]

pretty cool to look at this comment 10 years later. congrats on your success Matt!

[@kndli67]

Stop lying to me I KNOW YOU CAN AFFORD IT

[@TheSmokingTire]

Yes, I was banned from GM, Porsche, and Chrysler vehicles for saying things they didn't want to hear.

[@IWillSmurfYou]

What happened since then?

[@Briggsian]

@@IWillSmurfYou they all got over themselves

[@Rockdaground]

Are you still banned or have they realized the made a mistake?

[@lukedanielgalon1596]

That's some balls tho.

[@TheSmokingTire]

When the RS was designed and built, the ZR1 was not yet available. So compared to the top of the line Z06, this was a massive improvement in power. And it's not slower, it's nearly identical in performance to the ZR1. It's down 40hp, but also weighs nearly 200lb less and has a bigger footprint to put the power down.

[@jdrpepper79]

8.2L...mother of all that is holy!

[@EvanDickersonM81]

Just found out this car was used for some weekend fun with a mistress. Thank you vinwiki.

[@anirudhmallikarjun7067]

Not this one

[@rayth4386]

@@anirudhmallikarjun7067 it was this one, he said it was red.

[@EvanDickersonM81]

There are seven of these. Where did he get another?

[@Joshtheweatherman]

Mhm, KZbin is now recommending this video 10 years after it came out 😂

[@thomasorchard]

That's because Jay Leno recently posted a review of one.

[@yr612p]

lmao same here. right after I watched Jay Leno's review

[@sulkmahidonkeydek3424]

Not me I was actively looking for more information about it to compare it to my Z

[@davidpayne2469]

Im looking at a c5 and keep getting c6 stuff

[@Veyronp87]

cool to revisit this 12 years on. I think this is still a superbly special corvette. worth every penny

[@TheSmokingTire]

1) The GT2 would not smoke this car, in fact it would get its ass handed to it. 2) I don't find the Corvette's interior "purposeful." I thought the seats and steering wheel were terrible in my car, which is why I yanked them out and replaced them. The C6RS is not a "bang for your buck" car. But as a piece of Corvette history that also drives well and is extremely fast, it's a good buy at $185k as an investment.

[@TampaDE5]

This car has probably doubled in price since then.

[@Braglemaster123]

Matt you look so much better thin ‘

[@TheSmokingTire]

Do you know of a smaller displacement, normally aspirated V8 that makes more horsepower than that and still passes 50 state emissions? I don't....

[@TheSmokingTire]

No, not only seats. Performance, exotic materials, excellent fit and finish, exclusivity, and not "cheaping out" on certain areas to meet a price point, to me, make a supercar.

[@gustavoterrero9341]

who's here from VinWiki?

[@rdsimmonds]

14 years later, I still love watching this video. This is definitely on my list of dream cars.

[@collinpaine2572]

Look how thin matt is

[@jstllucky]

He looks like a normal human being!

[@gdlkinbi]

+collin paine You mean was, that's from 6 years ago....

[@collinpaine2572]

True

[@VQSeries]

Beat me to it lol #twoyearsLate

[@ScottDreyfus]

I was just thinking the same thing

[@TheSmokingTire]

it comes with a similar "competitive driving mode" that the Z06 has. but it's not like a straightpipe pre-cat dump. just gets a bit louder when you hit the button.

[@Mark37251]

I love that they bumped it to a forged 8.2 and yet were still able to keep the LSX vette sound relatively in tact. I wonder what the motor is rated for, surely you can get a substantial amount of boost into that car.

[@kingofquartz]

Exactly! And I imagine the torque curve on that engine looks more like a torque line lol. Its unreal the kind of torque these engines make from idle to redline.

[@superspeeders]

Very good video matt!

[@TheSmokingTire]

I never said it was faster, it has more horsepower than the RS, but it's also heavier. A professional racing driver may notice a slight advantage one way or the other (although I can't tell the diference), but in practice, an average driver would find them equally fast.

[@Dolby109]

Actually the Corvette does better in the corners compared to straight line. Look at all the actual (by actual I mean not top gear) tests. The Corvette out grips the 458 and 911 Turbo, and does better in the slalom. Has better lap times on many tracks than the 458 too.

[@MIKEK3NT]

9years too late, The Stig proved that the ZR1 C6 beat the R8

[@TheSmokingTire]

I've driven both cars, and I honestly can't tell which is faster. Neither can Doug. I think on a track the lap times would be very similar. The power to weight ratios are nearly identical, and while the RS has a better suspension/wheel/tire setup, the ZR1 has better brakes and a bit more top end power. For me though, it's too close to call. The RS is more fun though, with the sound it makes and the better interior, but the ZR1 is more civilized at low speed.

[@CMoney9696]

Dang son! I miss this TST intro lol. Nostalgic af.

[@bhagat6127]

Glad to see how far you've come. Cheers 💕

[@TheSmokingTire]

No Porsche banned me because I said the GT2 at the NY auto show in 98 was a "the most awful shade of red I've ever seen" In case you're wondering, yes, it is that easy to get banned.

[@TheSmokingTire]

@Calif1Kid in order to hook up harnesses, you'd have to install a harness bar in the back, such as the one I have in the back of my personal Corvette.

[@nikosleonardos191]

Ahh the good ol days when Matt had hair

[@TheSmokingTire]

I agree with you that the ZR1 does have more performance potential, provided you were willing to modify it a bit yourself. However, this car came out before the ZR1 so the LS9 wasn't available at the time, and the car's suspension, wheels, body, and interior are far superior to the ZR1's. Again, not saying the RS is a bargain, but as a collector's item for someone who's into Corvettes, this thing will be worth waaaaay more than a ZR1 in 20 years, especially if you modify the ZR1.

[@zyoungson]

still think the zr1 is the best looking corvette

[@legodude19999]

Not sure. I love the zo6 but the zr1 with the window onto the supercharger is stupid badass

[@TheSmokingTire]

We're referring to press fleet vehicles, which we need to do reviews. We can almost always find cars from other places if we really need them though.

[@ScottieDTV]

cool video brother

[@gsmith207]

Omfg 11 years ago! Wow. And Doug the Mainah! Love it! This is still awesome today! Matt you still look the same bud! Ageless!! Love this Vette! Only 7 or 8 made. And of course Mr. Leno has one. Such a beast! Pratt Miller kicks ass! Still to this day! And by the way I will pay the 185 right now

[@emilioheredia1]

allright... so all I need to drive that 'vette is to bring a video camera and they'll give me the keys.... LOL

[@TheSmokingTire]

I drove a 700hp GT2 recently, and the Cayman GTR.... I'm going to drive the Hotchkiss 'Cuda soon I think, but Chrysler doesn't make anything I want to drive now, so I don't care.

[@rubberwoody]

europeans don't understand that the point of big american v8's is not just power. it is smoothness and longevity.

[@raymondnewbill2748]

Clearly you have never experienced a euro V8. Because they are smoother than silk. And as long as you maintain, just as reliable.....

[@alexha737]

iam from europe and I drive ls7 mast motorsport 700hp in a z06 chassis

[@TheSmokingTire]

@veyronman i don't know which shot you're referring to, but compared to a regular corvette, the seats in this car are amazing.

[@ked4]

Supercar is based on performance Hypercar is based on status, looks, price etc

[@dcarden3031]

hyper cars are stupidity one off cars over priced even the makers say the same

[@TheSmokingTire]

@camdaddy10 you didn't listen carefully enough in the video. The most horsepower for any "naturally aspirated production V8." NASCAR racing engines are not production engines, and aren't included in that comparison.

[@Dolby109]

So 200+mph and Ferrari 458 beating performance don't make it a supercar??? A supercar is about performance, and exotic is about price and rarity. Besides the interior doesn't "suck", its just not as nice as other 100k cars, because its focus is on being faster than 200k cars.

[@42Channel42]

Dolby109 agree!! Thank you!

[@camonly849]

Carbon fiber panels, with fiberglass panels. Frame and motor are aluminum.....not a super car?? So you put alcontara on the steering wheel and on the dash and change the seats and then it's a super car? The 2012 zr1 set the production car lap record at laguna seca when it came out. It beat the viper, porsche, ferrari, lambo, Audi. All of them!

[@TheSmokingTire]

plus, even if 600hp from that displacement doesn't sound like much, it is the highest rated horsepower for any normally aspirated production V8 ever.

[@BigRed1151]

5:36 it bothers me so bad that people complain about the steering wheel being from a different car

[@gtperfection1596]

+Brian Colwell you are right the problem is these car critics test top end cars a lot and they are use to 200,000 car interiors there is a reason why the vette is so much cheaper all the money goes to performance for the average person the vette interior is very nice

[@txboy112233]

i mean i would ne mad of i bought a vette and get in it and have to look at a colbolt / chvy sonic /cavalier steering wheel

[@BigRed1151]

txboy112233 you can't buy a custome steering wheel. if you would bitch About something like a steering wheel, just change it.

[@42Channel42]

I agree. How do you think they are supposed to make them affordable. A Corvette is supposed to be a big monster engine, rear wheel drive. Who cares what the inside looks like, just have fun driving it. Lol.

[@bigreck]

Nice to a real car show again! I was beginning to go thru Withdrawals! Thank god for Garage419 and now "TheSmokingTire"!

[@lukedanielgalon1596]

Cross be like aight I'am head out

[@Hillzy_Eighty7]

Name i havent heard for years!

[@lukedanielgalon1596]

@@Hillzy_Eighty7 dude u missed out on payback cause cross easter egg including another easter egg in the natalie nova race. And yes your comment is moar of a meme too nice one.

[@Hillzy_Eighty7]

@@lukedanielgalon1596 Couldnt get into Payback AT ALL,but thanks for the info

[@TheSmokingTire]

you make a valid point, but as a collector's piece, there hasn't been a Ferrari built in as small numbers as this car since the 1960's, and those cars (and contemporary Corvette race cars) sell in the millions.

[@rubberbandmandestruction390]

Who came here after watching Jay Leno review this car?

[@cobraracer46]

I did.

[@TheSmokingTire]

Thanks, not bad considering we shoot with 3 people (including me) and 2 cameras. We made this film for $150, including hotel rooms :)

[@9doggie12]

My god Doug looks sooo young lol

[@recreatik]

Matt, thanks for bringing a good show to the web. I loved garage 419 and i like the way you do things. Hope you get the attention of sponsors and better yet a network. You make watching this kind of show fun. long live the smoking tire! Can you make a show about legal dragracing car and bikes?

[@TheJalopy80]

Who’s the female in the car with Matt?

[@TheSmokingTire]

No, The Smoking TIre will always be independently owned by Me and Tom. We have acquired the rights to the Garage419 distribution platforms, and we are using those platforms to distribute The Smoking Tire to the much larger subscriber base built up from 2 years of producing Garage419. Essentially, we go from 7,000 to 50,000 subscribers overnight.

[@ut2k4wikichici]

oh god matt was so skinny

[@kufan121]

So was your wife 10 years ago

[@TheSmokingTire]

I've had the same idea, we're working on that one...

[@moparracer76]

"Makes a man feel like a chauvinistic pig" Car was lost in a divorce lol.

[@sethmoyer]

It checks out, sir.

[@TheSmokingTire]

The new show is The Smoking Tire. We are using the Garge419 distribution platforms to spread the word.

[@dreray4077]

lol ZR1 not a SuperCar, If anything this guy is stupidly hilarious, I mean wow...Just...wow

[@turbo311]

Points on why the ZR1 IS NOT a supercar I totally agree with, thank you for having the balls to say that. I'm so sick of everyone thinking the ZR1 is infallible and unbeatable.

[@lilmango6281]

Shoulda added a supercharger for the fuck of it

[@TheWolfMatt]

They did for the newer model. However, there's still no replacement for displacement.

[@seregarn]

TheWolfMatt it has an 8.2L engine how much more displacement did you want lol shit i think they should of taken the gm 7.0L to katech and had them build it and then put a supercharger on it

[@TheSmokingTire]

Well, the owner was nice enough to allow us to drive his car on the race track, but not to do burnouts or abuse the car, so what would you have us do?

[@givemeajackson]

so all in all you'd be looking at about 240k dollars. NOOOOOOOOOOOPE! GT3RS for less with a better interior and equal performance, and you'd still have 100k to spend on either the options list of porsche or a tuner to take it to and have it make 700+ hp. or take a turbo s. or an audi r8 v10+. or an amg gt. heck, even a 458 or a huracan would be in that budget. who in their right mind would spend that kind of money on a corvette?

[@mikerodney8601]

+David Lyon your a f*** wit

[@givemeajackson]

Mike Rodney no matter what the argument is, if you don't know the difference between your and you are, your opinion is utterly invalid.

[@mikerodney8601]

+givemeajackson TRUE FACT!!!! I CONQUER SIR!!! CHEERS!!!!

[@givemeajackson]

Mike Rodney *concur. Unless your name is Hernan Cortes. Then conquer is acceptable.

[@mikerodney8601]

+givemeajackson o another internet English professor!! I'm using google speech application on my mobile phone genius!! I have two degrees d******* yeah that's right I'm degreed!! Are you???

[@TheSmokingTire]

we can't really do more than 1 car per episode, but we have quite a few episodes coming up that focus on more moderately priced cars like the CIvic Si, Mazdazpeed3, Genesis Coupe, and Mitsubishi Lancer. Oh, and the 370Z Roadster too....

[@ryanbarbolt3691]

Not worth it...You can build a NASTY c6 for half that price.

[@hisbabyf]

I always love American cars. Some may not be as sophisticated or high tech as european cars but they have their unique charms. Dont get me wrong. As a car lover I do love all makes and types

[@danieldelgado3008]

its kinda ugly

[@txboy112233]

i think the same zr1 and grand sport looked good that was kinda like a body kit from ebay if u tell me

[@twizz420]

It wasn't in 2010. Like matt's sideburns.

[@TheSmokingTire]

statistics show that viewership drops off dramatically after the 15 minute mark, so there is no reason to make longer segments online (unless someone pays us to, in which case I'll do whatever). Right now, we're just trying to keep going while all the other shows around us collapse. I'm glad you like watching, but unless advertisers start stepping up, we won't be expanding any time soon.

[@lsxfan4725]

The body mods are hideous

[@nr92cp6]

The body mods are almost the same as the C6R race car. They're not just randomly done.

[@lsxfan4725]

The c6r and this car are indeed bad a$$ just not a fan of the look

[@established_1803]

the c2 and the c6 vettes have always been a favorite of mine.

[@bigbuggaman]

@TheSmokingTire you guys will make it man..too much talent

[@TheSmokingTire]

@curancho it doesn't sound like that much horsepower given the displacement, but it's the highest rated horsepower of any normally aspirated production V8 ever.

[@TheSmokingTire]

super speeders isn't exactly "deep" but make sure you use discount code TST09 when you order to get free shipping. We have lots of car reviews coming up, all different stuff, but it should be interesting.

[@fishfreak1994]

I think this is the first time ive smiled through a whole video on youtube.

[@TheSmokingTire]

the cat-back is by Corsa

[@realtywithseankemp9704]

I used dynamat for my trunk on my straight piped c63 amg. Then just started adding their interior sound deadening material to attempt and create a more solid isolated cabin. I don't think the car itself is extremely loud from the interior but the noise that really gets to you the most is the noise from the mirrors and the wind. In total it was about $700 including the Dyna Matt thick pad in the trunk for my straight pipes because that's where most the sound gets through and then the 5 pieces of Sound deadening Throughout the cabin overall I think it worked just great to me there's a huge difference

[@TheSmokingTire]

Production has officially stopped on the Viper, so what's left is left. Clearly it will still be on the website as long as there is a single car left on the lot, and you will obviously keep seeing them around. Saw a TT one at Supercar Sunday this morning.... scary...

[@TheSmokingTire]

Thanks, we 've done a couple episodes on drag racing and honestly, it bores the shit out of Tom and I. But let me know exactly what you'd like to see, and maybe there will be a way to do it somewhere down the line. What do you mean by "legal drag racing car and bikes?" You mean go to the track? or you mean street-legal race cars? or you mean do a "how to drag race" segment?

[@TheSmokingTire]

@stupidrelaoded probably touching 800. but this car isn't designed to be modded, it would destroy the collector value, which is what you're paying for by buying something like this instead of say, a Z06.

[@Robstor88]

For me, the ZR1 definetly is a car to dream about. Not because its the fastest, but because its so beautifull and sounds so fucking awesome. Everytime I see or hear one, it makes my skin crawl! This is what a supercar is all about!

[@wdtiger]

I think i'm in love! That car is awesome! Racecar looks and the power and performance to back it up. Makes me wish my Corvette was this cool. The only thing mine has in common with the C6RS is the color.

[@TheSmokingTire]

well if pedigree is the requirement, Corvettes have been winning races for years, specifically the ones built by Pratt and Miller. There was Dick Guildstrand and Roger Penske in the 60's, lots of wins behind the wheel of Corvettes.

[@corvettesolos]

Pratt & Miller should be the brains behind the budget of every new corvette! This car is tight!! And oh my god....that exhaust note is sensational. 8.2L is too insane for a production corvette though....I'd still have it

[@Greendude33]

@Elastico2 That's how it's designed so you have a smooth powerful HP and torque delivery throughout the powerband. Much more reliable than a tiny turboed engine or high reving OHC. This will run hard long after the Ferrari and Porsche have broken something

[@johnpan78]

Call it super car, sports car just a car, whatever. It has one of the best performance. On 2008 it had 650 horsepower and when you are tired driving boring European automatic cars you can still enjoy an American manual 2017 Z06 or ZL1.

[@Wutaskier]

I want this car. Future classic of epic proportions

[@TheSmokingTire]

I hate the term "bargain supercar." the fact that that term even exists basically admits that GM has cost-cut all over the ZR1. There should only be supercars, and other cars, and "bargain supercars" just means, "we cheaped out a few places, but it goes so fast that no one's going to care, because all they care about is a Nurburgring time." well, I'm here to say I care, and supercars shouldn't have cut corners.

[@Litanic]

As a thrill-seeking car-enthusiast, I couldn't care less about the interior of a car. Lots or quite all manufacturers understand this, but some sacrifice their performance and/or base price for a nice interior/build quality. Supercars and hypercars aren't about having nice interiors, it's simply nice to have if your ride bores you. Corvette doesn't need to compensate and neither does the Viper ACR, the Gumpert Apollo, Radical SR8 or Lexus LFA. You'll note that these are all top-performers.

[@Red_Bearded_Dad]

The C6RS is absolutely one of the best sounding 'Vettes EVER. There is NO denying that! Unrelated: Have you guys ever thought of doing a "Punch for Price" episode/series? The C6 and WRX come to mind instantly (not to compare but as pure Punch for Price). The new Mustang 5.0 will definitely fall into that category as well. As would maybe the 370Z, G37 coupe/sedan, and MazdaSpeed3.

[@Merovinjian]

Ive always had massive amounts of respect for this show until this episode. Anyone who says a zr1 is not a super car, either has an extremely biased opinion or is completely stupid. The numbers dont lie, and to true petrol heads....nice comfy seats dont fucking matter....

[@JoseRamirez-nw7pg]

If this guy wants “comfy” European seats and amenities, buy a fucking European car. You don’t belong in a Corvette of any generation 🤡

[@shafaf0]

AAAAAAAAAH my heart pounds with joy whenever I hop in a corvette or a camaro with 6.2L in them, but an 8.2 NOW that is something beyond nuts

[@recreatik]

Matt, Dragracing always gets covered the same way: two fast vehicles running down a 1/4 mile track. But what makes the whole thing tick? Do you HAVE to have an insanely powerful car or bike to win? How does it work? how much does it cost to run your own street car or bike? what`s a dial in? pro tree? christmas tree? grudge racing? why what how? I have never seen a show explaining what is dragracing. Just the plain what is what., talk to people who race and why and show some cars and bikes

[@jimgianatsisdesign6824]

Save your money on the Pratt & Miller Zor and Corvette ZR1. I love my 2006 Z06 which I've had from new and quickly upgrade to a street legal track day car. The Z06s actually came stock with full carbon fibre bodywork and a magnesium roll bar / roof structure. The Pratt & Miller bodywork just looks a little different. The Z06' sstock LS7 427ci engine is full aluminum with Titanium Rods and Valves. I added a track cam, billet roller rocker kit, ported the heads and milled .010" to take the stock compression from 11.5 to 11.7. Kooks Headers full race exhaust system with racing catalytics took off 150lbs and does pass Calif Smog, and a Breathless Performance Cold Air Box brought power up to 640hp on pump gas - probably the same as the exotic Pratt & Miller engine replacement. 400ft/lbs of torque at 1,500rpm! Stock Corvette 6 speed. Suspension is Eibach Calloway Coil Overs with adjustable damping remote reservoirs. Sparco Carbon Fibre Race Race Seats. And late model Corvette ZR1 wheels with 19/305s front, 20/345 rear Michelin PilotSport Cup 2s, stock Z06 Brake Calibers with 2-piece aluminum hat brake rotors. Finished weight with 5-point harness and a harness bar is just 2,950 lbs / 640hp (weighing 600lbs less than the Supercharged ZR1 with the same power). It will blow away and our handle any supercar. Nearly half the price of the Pratt & Miller Corvette at the time back in 2007, with the same performance. Today you can by a nice used C6 Z06 for about $30K and spend $25K on the same mods and have a car equal to the P&M Supervette and blow away and out corner any Italian or British supercar ( they still have narrow 245-265 front tires so they don't corner!). P.S. The Michelin Pilot Cup tires work great even if old, but you just need to warm them up first. Just resist punching the throttle when driving off cold or the car will get sideways! Once hot, they stick like Gorilla glue and pull close to 1.5 Gs in the corners. Cheers :)

[@philspaghet]

Dang, this was 10 years ago!

[@mygoofyahhgotdrop1354]

that sound of the 8.2l... just phenomenal

[@Chizep]

I like how he has to pause and concentrate whenever he gets on it! That car is a beast!

[@stupidrelaoded]

@TheSmokingTire that's a good point on the collectability, i was just wondering how to get the ultimate corvette, i mean the zr1 is supercharged, and has slight carbonfiber use, while this C6RS makes nearly the same power, but is lighter from nearly full carbon fiber use, has better seats upolstery, handling, and etc. i was just looking at the quality and speed factor, not the collectable, which is seemingly the point

[@TechPier12]

@TheSmokingTire thats right and since your puting 600hp/600torque N/A you just cant put a turbo with doing major midification to the engine. And when you got more than 600hp N/A, its a hell of a feeling. That car is designed to stay original and perfect!

[@TheSmokingTire]

sorry just checked my facts and need to correct myself. Production will stop in June, and 2010 will be the last model year.

[@TheSmokingTire]

mine too!

[@Red_Bearded_Dad]

Very good point. I guess it depends on if you are buying it for its collectible value or it's speed value. I'd be interested to see how much faster it is than a stock ZR1... especially if both had the same tires.

[@BelviGER]

I vividly remember this car and this video, but I did not expect to see Doug here

[@americansmark]

@TheSmokingTire That may be the best response ever guys. I'm curious what carbon fiber even has to do with engine horsepower.

[@vladpootin5973]

At the given HP Output, that Katech 8.2 is severly understressed & outright bored, it will make 800+ N/A with no hassle. So this is a very mild tame tune.

[@CarToneHK]

@MrSixFive the pedigree of a supercar is a simple thing, it must be exotic, it must have some unique crafts manship, not from a big company and have one thing - passion and feel that the creator of the brand and car have fill into the car's soul

[@bobbymack12]

@frambesbuckeye there is linear power all the way through the rev band with superchargers because the run off the motor.