PRE ARRIVAL TWO ALARM Structure Fire Point Pleasant Beach New Jersey 4/28/23

[@cencom1us]

This was a firefighters apartment. He lost everything. He got out with his dog alive Thank God.

[@jerseyshorefireresponse]

Praying for our locals 🙏 we are here to help in anyway we can.

[@bentley4446]

Sorry to hear

[@bradmagnuson6963]

That really sucks

[@danapowers9793]

Blessings and healing for the firefighter and his comrades.

[@RandRParanormal]

Thank God he's ok! I'm a retired firefighter, is there any fund raisers for him?

[@bobby_D]

No matter what fire video I watch, it always amazes me how long it takes to get water onto a fire. It’s almost every time.

[@RamboJohnJ]

Just because you don’t see it in camera, doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

[@fleabitis]

Given the non-linear growth of a fire, there is absolutely no substitute for getting water in visible fire at the first possible opportunity. Any knock down is better than none. With fire showing through the soffit all along the base of the 2-side, a quick initial attack there could have bought some irreplaceable time while crew & equipment mustered to mount an interior attack. Take a look at LAFD’S typical response to similar conditions. Water within 60-seconds - even if only from the tank -always has great benefit. “Hustle” is also a huge factor.

[@ericschmidt7359]

They would have had plenty of water, if that hydrant didn't break.

[@portagepete1]

How could they drive to a fire with out a water truck. And It's their job to check hydrants.

[@chavosuijkerbuijk3281]

I don't totally agree, altough I have to say that for us (European firefighters) it is difficult to understand why it takes so long in the united states to build up water. On that we agree. But, if we take out a line to attack immediately, the first one mostly is for show if it comes to these type of fires. For the public it looks like we are fighting the fire already and in the mean time more water and beter hoses will be build up. Is one way beter then the other, I don't know. It does make a difference in for example vehicle fires.

[@davecarsley8773]

Even an engine typically holds 250-500 gallons of water. Even if the hydrant you tagged is bad, you should still be able to get some water on the fire immediately while waiting for a better hydrant or a dump tank and water shuttle.

[@DavidHorsnall]

Did any of you watch the same fire as I did? This is atrocious. Took to long to stretch a hand line, doesn’t take 3 FF’s to hit a hydrant, second engine doesn’t lay in for the broken hydrant, evacuation tones for what? You guys need to train. Engine and truck work is desperately needed.

[@virgilhilts3924]

Thanks for confirming you've never worked a day as a firefighter

[@DavidHorsnall]

@@virgilhilts3924 27 years on the job. Retired Squad Captain.

[@chewybacca11]

@@virgilhilts3924 I agree with him.

[@virgilhilts3924]

@@chewybacca11 So you are clueless as well Thanks for clarifying 👍

[@chewybacca11]

@@virgilhilts3924 you’re welcome I don’t know what your deal is, but everything he said was true. They did a pretty bad job. What do you disagree with?

[@SACAPOCCER]

Wow, this was extremely painful to watch ! Lack of training is an understatement !!

[@AllenPortman]

What were you able to juge the firefighters lack of training. I notice a few but considering they lost a hydrant, wind-driven fire, heavy rain and massive 3rd level lqrge structure.

[@jebcommon2332]

​@@AllenPortmanshouldn't more hustle go into securing a second hydrant, knowing where always a potential for a malfunctioning one. At 25 minutes finally got ladder cannon onto dormer fire. 25 minutes!

[@garybrain9786]

Rumour has it, it's still burning to this day.

[@thedrewview78]

Our department always has a water tanker respond so we can put the water on the fire within minutes of arriving, while hydrants and more lines are estabilshed as well as pumpers. I see this as a lack of training and bad fire hydrant management

[@robdudley3867]

Well, at least their record of never losing a basement remains intact.

[@cahbee123]

The time it takes for them to get water on the fire is complete negligence. The Lack of training and hustle is to hard to watch.

[@terrenceanderson7966]

I can't keep watching this 😢I want to cry because of the slow response and reactions of everyone involved 😭

[@jimkeappock7558]

A lot of lessons to be learned here!!

[@williamschlenger1518]

What a beautiful house.

[@richkuklinski8424]

Not anymore

[@spud435]

Notice the sold sign still in the front yard.

[@pendoreille9185]

This is a shame. From the beginning I figured this was an attic fire and the house would be saved. BAD GUESS. Many impediments but I hope the department (or insurance company) inspects that hydrant with an eye to, oh, say, "sharing" the loss with whomever is responsible for the hydrant. I don't think command was particularly good either.

[@lchaput7721]

If you're condemned to live in Point Pleasant Beach, do not call the fire department just because you're house is on fire. They're so incompetent it's far better to let the dump burn and rebuild.

[@crazylady955]

I have noticed it. I have had FF training but not a FF and seems their command has become complacent with training and complacency kills

[@JohnpaulDejoria666]

Heard this job come in last night and looked to see if you were streaming last night. Glad you got good video on it

[@peterarvanitis6497]

I know he’d be there to cover the action I saw one picture of the fire building and put on broadcastify to monitor some good listening there

[@DRIBBLES2500]

I have been listening to fires in Ocean County for 30 years and i’ve heard all kinds of stuff….Last night listening to this Fire it was tough I was really worried when they Were having water issues

[@bobbys1984]

They could’ve put that fire out with a water can when that first engine got there

[@DRIBBLES2500]

@@bobbys1984 Oh I didn’t know you were a Point Pleasant Firefighter what station do you belong to 42 or 43?

[@tomfrombrick]

Wild video. Broken hydrant, evac tones. Pretty sure that was a B&B. Sad bc the shore season is upon us

[@DRIBBLES2500]

It was hard to listen to her while I was Really nervous

[@edwardbojarczuk6360]

If nobody called the fire dept the place would burn down in an hour call the fire dept and it took 3 hrs same result

[@johnlang6366]

Your absolutely right!!! You don't know what's going. Because the fire department has no clue either. 😢😮😮

[@johncutts481]

I have watched many videos of fires in the US and have never seen any fire departments as incompetentt as those in these videos. There seem to be dozens of firefighters doing absolutely nothing.

[@richardsvensson5154]

These firefighters looked like they were at a holiday camp,glad that wasn't my house. Started out relatively small by the time they got organised it was a raging inferno.

[@chronically.advocating]

If they're having that much trouble drafting then command needs to special call for tankers, and a holding pen. You can't control a fire like this without a tower ladder in continuous operation.

[@Marrio49]

It is now 11 minutes and 39 seconds and the fire has quadrupled in size. It is contained on the roof. Where is the aerial tower that should be throwing water on the roof? Why is the deck gun on the pump not being used?Why aren’t they utilizing them ? These two pieces of equipment can throw as much as four times the volume of water than a 2 1/2 inch hand line. What are these bozos doing? Their chief should be fired. I am from Boston and have been to hundreds of fires over the last 40 years. BFD employs the finest chiefs, deputies and officers that you can find anywhere and the firefighters are well trained. They have excellent leadership and training.

[@mattalexander8925]

Any type of apartment fire sucks, I feel for the residents that had to go through it. I worked a rough one when I was with Red Cross a while ago and it was tough to work through because that particular fire had a lot of moving parts to it.

[@Bobbyd0052]

GREAT JOB ,ON THE VIDEO ! NASTY WIND ! SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF PROPERTY ! HOPE ALL MADE IT HOME SAFE ! THANK YOU ! 🇺🇲

[@xaxoon69]

It would be a great job if several fire engines arrived quickly, the fire was extinguished quickly and there was as little damage as possible. I only saw one house that, despite dozens of firefighters and vehicles, ended up almost completely burned out. My opinion.

[@bobbys1984]

Another loss, nothing changed

[@04u2cY]

The firefighters were at disadvantage with the wind combined with water issues. They sure had a fight on their hands.

[@bobbys1984]

They coulda put that out on tank water alone.

[@davecarsley8773]

The horrible incident command didn't help anything.

[@high1voltage1rules]

They have been there for 5 mins with no hoses on that fire!! You telling me no fire truck has no water onboard??? That was disgraceful!!! The damage in 5 mins to that house!! That was painful to watch!!

[@doreenblatz2440]

It was extremely painful to watch. I hope they are all volunteer fire fighters because if they’re paid, they’re not doing their jobs. I’ve never seen a fire video where you have so many fire fighters standing around doing nothing. Time for this department to be sued and training might be a good idea because they certainly don’t act like trained fire fighters.

[@peteneal5914]

in the uk all fire trucks carry between 500 to 800 gallons of water 3 trucks would of dumped nearly 2000 gallons on that fire within minutes the fire would be nearly out

[@bencunningham6298]

Nah, you're not putting that out from the outside. Older style construction, knee walls most likely present and plenty of void spaces for fire to travel unseen. This roof needed opened asap on the downwind side and guys in there pulling ceiling and walls.

[@peteneal5914]

@@bencunningham6298 why do houses get built from mainly wood construction is it a cheaper option ive worked in the building construction for 30 odd years in the uk every building ive worked on has been a inner of 18 by 9 by 4 breeze block with a 4 inch gap then brick on the outside the gaps for isulation the roof beams are a frames of timber then tyles but never built a full house of wood yes they look nice but if they catch fire there burned to a charde mess

[@bencunningham6298]

@@peteneal5914 yup, all about cost. Builders association has more pull than the fire service when it comes to building codes. This house compared to more modern ones built in the states is actually pretty good. Nowadays they don't even use actual wood for certain things. They use OSB which is a bunch of little pieces of wood, like wood chips glued together to make plywood, manufactured beams are made with the same stuff. Believe it or not they don't even use nails anymore to hold the roof trusses together, they use a gusset plate that fails at 180 degrees. Everything modem in the US is built to burn and burn fast even apartment complexes. Only part built with block is the foundation. It's honestly a joke but nobody could afford a house built out of brick or other harder materials. Some areas use stucco but I'm not familiar with it so not sure how that holds up in a fire.

[@peteneal5914]

@@bencunningham6298 ive a friend in durango colorado and a friend in rougemonte north varolina am going to ask what there houses are made of its a shame and a crime to put lives before profit wood might be cheaper but you dont have much chance when theres fire we have that stuff wood chipping glued its called wood chip bord or mdf bord its strong but burns so fast i hate the stuff you kant use screws or nails on it it splits and cracks its rubbish i use ply wood sheets far stronger but expensive now but everything expensive in uk now soon thel charge us to breathe fresh air

[@bencunningham6298]

@@peteneal5914 yea it's super expensive here too. Last time I looked 1/2 inch (1.2 cm) was around 40$ a sheet which typically it ran about 12-15$. Stucco style is more on the west coast and southwest. There's a few scattered throughout the country but that's mainly where they use that construction.

[@edwardjamessolo]

Watch Stockton California fire videos. Some of the most badass firefighters in this country

[@danielheartsill4269]

Every time I see a fire video from New Jersey, Pennsylvania I am thankful for the fire department we have in Garland Tx. We have very quick response and they come out of the truck ready to fight fire.

[@vanessahuman7607]

4/30. Sometimes I wonder if the firefighters know what to do. Why does it take so long?

[@davecarsley8773]

They are listening to their commander. It's a military structure. If he fails, they all fail.

[@fozzywxman]

Meanwhile, they had all the water they needed across the street in Little Silver Lake to put out the entire block let alone a one floor fire. Stage a pumper in the parking lot across the street with a suction hose and filter in the lake and away we go.

[@ronfreniere8769]

Hopefully there were no injuries to anyone related to this incident, yeah to bad that hydrant blow, had that happen to me on a car fire. That and the high winds combined to spread the fire. Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.

[@njtpa1975]

60 mph Winds, Middle of the Night, All Volunteer Department, Hydrant Breaks. Everything that could go wrong, did.

[@billdacitizan380]

Good video coverage!! Sorry FD leadership. Those 3 lines at the rear were doing nothing to exteguish the fire. No one to tell them

[@JesusisKingBpt]

They had no water

[@billdacitizan380]

@@JesusisKingBpt Watch again. They had plenty of water at this stage

[@paulsylvester1394]

Some difficult conditions? For sure. But 13 minutes in and not a drop of water yet! There is a leadership problem here!

[@wilgerdes3240]

... not even 10 minutes on scene & Chief Surround & Drown has called to evacuate the building!!! If U can't stand the heat, become an ambulance driver!

[@Jacob-mm8xq]

That wind just making things grow so fast

[@barumman]

I hope our UK firemen are more efficient that that lot.

[@TheFenrisDragon]

A Fire truck with no water onboard. Especial A first responder..... Damme.

[@marshanotmarcia7433]

Wait, 3 horn beeps was all the EVAC signal they got?!?! WTFFFF!!!!! WAIL THOSE DAMN HORNS!!!!! 😡😡😡

[@Allison-ti5vv]

Did you know this was a firefighters home? Before being a Karen show respect

[@daleannphillips3730]

The wind was no joke….

[@semproniodensso3353]

80 or 120 years with fires in these windy conditions...wind it´s the last and least culprit!!!.

[@DCDura]

Was it really 25 minutes before water was on the upper structure?

[@virgilhilts3924]

You are seriously embarrassing yourself

[@NJDRONEMAN]

Sad my boss lives here in his 3 million dollar home … can’t rely on this dept !!

[@cluckhead1913]

@@NJDRONEMAN The house appears to be divided up to accommodate six different dwellings judging by the fire escapes. I'd say that more than a few code violations could be to blame. Maybe your boss can shed some light on this not so trivial matter?

[@bfirefighter3]

@@NJDRONEMAN your boss is part of the problem. Multi million dollar homes yet not enough paid staff?

[@davecarsley8773]

​@@bfirefighter3His boss doesn't hire the firefighters, asshole.

[@Mark-eu4ds]

House stood for 103 years. Built in 1920. It seems like it was so small in the beginning. Unsalvageable. It's easy to criticize the fire department. I've never been a firefighter, so I couldn't do it in good faith. Truth be told, I've seen other departments do a better job of knocking out fires before they get to the point of completely destroying the building.

[@wrenchposting9097]

they fucking sucked dude

[@richardthornton3051]

Ps sorry for the loss of this apt house as am glad everyone got out

[@harrisontiemann3276]

They seriously need more help

[@pamhofmeister2531]

Wonderful video. Great job...🤗🤗

[@semproniodensso3353]

Were can I find the books about putting fires under control by washing the smoke???...thanks Deckgunning from water on board at 500 gpm by 20 seconds, had lowered fire intensity by 90% using 170 gallons, and still remain 300 gallons for interior attack. A wind with that speed didn´t affect so much a 500 gpm stream, in fact the applied hand streams still reach the building and beyond.

[@rhacker3058]

Does that Part Of The World Not Have Water, 10 min's In Haven't Seen A Drop!!!! What-Da Whata??????????????

[@virgilhilts3924]

You are seriously embarrassing yourself

[@michelleford634]

This is so sad. Someone somewhere not only dropped the ball in regards to the hydrant, they then kicked the ball down the road and out of sight. What a loss.

[@jspriver]

We did hydrants twice a year. flushed in the simmer, pumped dry in the fall. Every hydrant in the city, every year.

[@johnnoland4249]

That must be an older home. If it was new construction , half the house would have been gone by now.

[@Dallas_K]

Looks like circa 1910.

[@rickmontgomery3037]

Good grief, those winds look fierce!! :(

[@nayanpanchal39]

Great video

[@billmahnken915]

I'll bet they look good in a parade, with all that equipment.

[@46fd04]

The opening of the video appeared to show fire on the 2nd floor, advancing down (possibly the staircase) from above. Had I been first on scene and conducted a 360, I think my crew and I would have gone thru the front door with a handline, found the staircase, and advanced up the stairs as far as we safely could. Would that have made a difference? Maybe. Maybe not. It was wind-driven. They're tough to fight.

[@markevan1]

They did that. It's in the description of the video.

[@bobbys1984]

@@markevan1if they did that, then they wouldn’t have lost the entire house from a single room fire

[@markevan1]

@@bobbys1984 No one said it was a single room on arrival.

[@bobbys1984]

@@markevan1 I have eyes. there was no no fire or smoke showing from any other windows. and i can tell they never hit any fire till it extended into the attic.

[@markevan1]

@@bobbys1984 And how do you know where it had already extended to? You know houses have a rear as well as a front, and you can't see the stairwell from outside. I hope you're not a firefighter.They did enter with a line and I'm sure there was a good reason why they couldn't get to the room you are obsessed with.

[@Scott-il1fk]

I am retired FF. If you have never attacked a fire then hold your comment.. I do agree that hydrant assessment na domain was lacking. I also agree that an initial deck gun attack MIGHT have helped but you never do that unless you KNOW you have a water supply on the way. In this case that was not possible. High winds made this very hard to attack. SO over all I think these folks did a reasonable job and I am sure they all took it personally. Not all department have tankers so keep that in mind.

[@thomasfiori7259]

My thing is after the hydrant blew why didn't they get there hard suction tube off and dump it into the lake behind them they would have had plenty of water then

[@charlesdalton6262]

Once the chief officer was made aware of a faulty hydrant. Shut that hydrant down ,reconnect to the next nearest working hydrant .First operating line to the front door secure egress for occupants .Start a 2Nd line to back up the first .Interior stairs need protection .That air horn I believe indicates exterior attack is now underway ,Units need to back out.However portable ladders on all exposures is critical for victims . The tower ladder needs to open up ,Sad to see so many high volume hoses dry .Water needs to be pumped into Engine companies Lots of white hats ,very little organization .This went from fire showing in the rear to total loss

[@tamraanne4066]

They really need to go around and check fire hydrants on a regular basis. All over the country.

[@kc0eks]

I see them flush and tested a few times a year here (Colorado)

[@njtpa1975]

They do, twice a year, Fall and Spring.

[@browndigity420]

I've just recently discovered your videos, great content first of all. I'm always surprised how long it actually takes for water to get onto the fire...keep up the great work and stay safe

[@MrEagleye911]

Please explain to me how the hell you respond to fire and not have water? Aren't they ever inspected? This was totally uncalled for

[@redbug3696]

Fire Hydrants, water trucks. It ain't easy sometimes. 🌊🔥🌊

[@njtpa1975]

They are inspected twice a year, this one was inspected on April 24th

[@bfirefighter3]

@@njtpa1975 do the trucks carry water?

[@ArtistJGH]

Glad we don’t live in this district. They seem more concerned with playing with the hoses than getting water on the fire. Almost seems inept.

[@yaxlen7378]

Dime qué no quieres apagar un incendio sin decirmelo..😢

[@ThePickleSlicer]

Beautiful house

[@Firefightingoldschoolbasics101]

Wtf guys!! This department needs a revamp what a shame,, if I owned that home I would be pissed the hell off !! 😡

[@FrankTrocchio]

About time they got water the the original fire sight. Very frustrating for these guys. Whomever is responsible for inspecting those hydrants, need to be held accountable in every way.

[@Denver645]

Shame on that town for not maintaining their hydrants

[@bobby_D]

And the taxes are no joke there.

[@cluckhead1913]

Typically the FD maintains the hydrants.

[@bdsisti]

@@cluckhead1913not really. This is a small town at the Jersey shore.

[@judis.1810]

I think NJ water company would be the ones to make sure every single hydrant was to work right, no matter what. God Bless each and every person at this horrific fire!

[@alexkitner5356]

While it can vary from town to town, the water company often is the one that flushes and checks hydrants but there's zero guarantee that it cannot fail under use or from defects that can't be seen. They go around, open, flush and close the hydrant, they aren't hooking fire engines up or subjecting them to high flows, forces from the hoses that are attached, water hammer- and to do so would be logistically impossible. The simple flushing they do takes probably 10-15 minutes all in after doing it and doing the associated paperwork and then driving 500 feet to the next. Thats maybe 30 hydrants per day, when you have a hydrant every 500-1000 feet on average or about a square mile a day if they can keep up that cadence. Its not on the fire department and not realistic that the every plug can be tested regularly enough or thoroughly enough that failures can be completely eliminated.

[@Sea-cucumber1151]

So they did three blasts early thought that was evacuate or mayday, then they did multiple 2 long blasts, what does that mean? Calling for more help? Or does everyone do it differently?

[@georgecoons6872]

Tucson Arizona fire would have used foam on that fire. As every house fire.

[@NJDRONEMAN]

Wtf easy knock down with tank water . Idk what the hell is going on in the fire service anymore . Good video again Ryan thanks

[@Gemini_-rb2du]

Exactly! 14 minutes before it was even hit with a hose... wtf 😤

[@K7008B]

@@Gemini_-rb2du Don't these pumpers have at least a 500 gallon booter tank?? And how about while they're standing around, throwing up some portable ladders to the 2nd floor windows and the exposure for anyone performing a search for life inside??!!

[@Gemini_-rb2du]

@@K7008B Exactly! Most do... I've watched hundreds of these kinds of videos, and they all take 10-15 minutes of valuable time before water hits the structure 😤

[@alljourney2834]

they would of had water quicker if the hydrant didn't break. Also who said it was a quick knock down. What about interior fire and shit that isn't visible from the outside

[@alljourney2834]

@@K7008B 500 gallons is absolutely nothing. 1 hose line will go through all of that in the 1-3 minutes

[@jebcommon2332]

What? No Tanker ? Get water on the fire immediately!! Doesn' t make sense at all that there's such a delay . Thirteen fricking minutes to get water going. So much for training.

[@timmason4136]

Your towder latter did a whloe lot of NOTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a mess that whole thing was !!!!!!!!!!!!. I just sat here and laughed the whole time .

[@Mike78777]

i wonder if they can get air support and drop water on the fire like for forst fires

[@davecarsley8773]

Not in that wind.

[@NJDRONEMAN]

And all you pros on the wind … If an initial line was deployed to the 3rd floor on arrival . It would of been a quick knock . Don’t blame the wind . Took them 15 minutes to get water flowing . Yes the hydrant blew …. Still have 750 to 1000 gallons of tank water . No excuse.. one of jerseys highest rated towns with the most expensive homes this is unacceptable

[@njtpa1975]

1 truck would not have knocked that fire down, 1 truck can't Knock out a car fire.

[@cynthiaarnold5807]

So sad to watch this. All I can say if you live in this area make sure your fire insurance is paid. These bozos are what some of the fire depts have become. Lots of certificates for training but don't know what to on the scene in the real world. Our local fire company is like this. I just pray the other 3 township and city fire companies get to our place first. They are to busy fighting amongst each other. Who has more power. The chief is a joke.

[@njtpa1975]

The Hydrant Broke, that's on the Township Water Department who is supposed to inspect them, not the fire department.

[@joemara9801]

@@njtpa1975 Wrong. FD inspects and run hydrants periodically. City flushes line to keep clean

[@njtpa1975]

@@joemara9801 not here, Fire is Volunteer so they have nothing to do with it. Water Department is paid, they handle everything.

[@virgilhilts3924]

Thanks for confirming that you have no clue what you are talking about

[@mar4oz]

You by far deal with the worst cops in all fire videos out there!

[@gaetalton5119]

Wow,what a novelty, a FD that can't put out a fire. 15 min. after arrival w/no water onboard, finally get water but the fireman are standing around in the street scratching their backsides, watching the fire burn; 45 min later, 3rd floor has successfully burned down to the 2nd floor when, a male voice pipes in, "need to get some water up there..." Duh, ya think??? Something wrong w/this production. After watching 3 videos of Jersey Shore FD attempts at putting out fires, perhaps a remedial course in successful fire extinguishing would be in order ..or perhaps a new Fire Chief. Or maybe just skip water waste altogether and let the houses burn to the ground on their own - eventually the fire will extinguish itself.

[@crazylady955]

New chief and allot of make up training

[@acmext]

What exactly were they trying to accomplish with that tower 2? Placing yourself in the flow path of superheated gasses. Makes lots of sense. How about drop your worthless hook and flow some water in that window.

[@pamhofmeister2531]

I think between the wind and water issues made this a very hard fire to fight. Especially the wind. God bless the the firefighters that had to deal with all the issues. Remember the video can't show you everything that they are doing and what issues they are dealing with.

[@debbieplace16]

Jeez, was that the Keystone Cops fighting that fire?

[@jspriver]

Does anybody in that area do interior attacks or is it always surround and drown ?

[@virgilhilts3924]

They did an interior attack You should have a clue before typing and embarrassing yourself

[@mikehoysler4322]

@@virgilhilts3924I feel sorry for you as every response is mean and/or sarcastic. Being a dick is a choice and you ought to start choosing better. With all your “experience” maybe try teaching vs humiliating?

[@davescott2485]

@@virgilhilts3924 'No, I didn't actually watch the video...Just thought I'd show up and criticize cause that's all I know how to do'... probably not bright enough to feel embarrassed.

[@Lightbarrescue]

I agree as a firefighter for 21 years . I feel like guys are afraid to do there job anymore . I’m a firm believer in a 2- 1/2 and a aggressive investor attack

[@jspriver]

@@Lightbarrescue every seat has a job. Truck guys VES, engine get two lines in, pull the ceiling and get at it.

[@AdrianGus]

better call the three stooges!

[@wilgerdes3240]

...never ceases to amaze me that they don't immediately start pumping from the engine tank as they establish their hydrant supply...they have a minimum of 500 gallons to start an attack line; engineer hasn't even charged one line! Not to mention bringing up the deck gun to knock down some fire from outside while the initial attack line is stretched...SOP needs some Serious reevaluation...

[@georgemitchell9222]

did they ever figure out how it started ?

[@mothermarylspeaking8989]

Even if all the hydrants worked, the wind was not their friend. Also, there were fire fighters inside the structure according to the description. But with the continued water issues and the wind being on the side of the fire the evac alarm sounded early to evacuate the structure.

[@GWhite1001]

What would cause a hydrant to fail like that? Weren't those 6" adapters just installed last year?

[@skipd9164]

Most new type hydrants have a clamp at that location for replacement of actual hydrant. Then you don't need to replace the stem that connects to the main. Looking at Google maps that is an older hydrant and cast iron just broke from being used. I'm surprised water was not blowing out. What 6" adapter are you talking about because I have seen no upgraded hydrants on maps anywhere. Are you familiar with that area

[@GWhite1001]

@@skipd9164 sorry for not responding sooner but I just noticed your question. I live nearby. The town upgraded all the fire hydrants with new adapters sometime after Google went thru in August 2021.

[@stephenwhite546]

Tuff to watch not a very aggressive department . Fire insurance must be through the roof.

[@briankistner4331]

5 minutes in. With the wind the house is a goner. Lot of activity from the roof. Doesn't help the FD is standing around with a finger up their ass.

[@briankistner4331]

Could be the wind, but 12 minutes in and still no water or any type of action being taken.

[@nancyniewoehner7881]

I was beginning to think the gas was still turned on.

[@avrovulcan617]

American fire crews don't half piss about.

[@raymondroysr.]

what happen to the tower ladder you use it now it gone now you have a mess with the roof fully in flames an now into the 2nd floor you lose it why is that you did not use the ladder truck?

[@howiecowell6645]

My only question is why did they wait so long to get water on the backside of the house where they coulda knocked the fire down faster instead of three lines on the side with hardly any effect...normally I say Great job to fellow firefighters but this one is lacking some direction from the chiefs...

[@njtpa1975]

The Fire Hydrant Broke

[@nickmad887]

good job

[@nelsonde]

So a deck gun and 750 gallons aren't an option?

[@ExtraFreakyBobTv]

I would applaud you if your able to find a deck gun on that engine

[@nelsonde]

​@@ExtraFreakyBobTv it should have some sort of monitor, but heck, a hand line from the ground at least.

[@ExtraFreakyBobTv]

@@nelsonde it’s got a monitor in the rear, and a 50 foot stick. No need for the monitor since there’s no exposure issue

[@Steve-cu1ye]

They don't know how to use it

[@peterarvanitis6497]

@@Steve-cu1ye oh please

[@GabrielAlves-qv7do]

i have a Question: what causes the fire

[@thomasanglin1751]

Would a deck gun application have worked to slow the division 3 bravo side fire, or is the wind to high can't tell through the smoke

[@grumpymedik]

not until you have a hydrant hook up or solid supply of water. IMO

[@grumpymedik]

not until you have a hydrant hook up or solid supply of water. IMO

[@brianfalco6567]

Why 3 lines on rear of house spraying water on thinks that are not burning??

[@TomJohnson-w7z]

they need retraining to many ppl standing around, absolutely pathetic 25 min for water

[@polojoe2835]

Never seen a hydrant do that while it’s connected. I live in Philly seen a lot of fires

[@ralphbove]

32 minutes in- "their getting some real water on it now".