PRE-ARRIVAL: Working 2nd Alarm Structure Fire - Thomaston, Maine

[@MikeDenn-z3s]

Enough manpower and equipment to put out a forest fire, but the slowest effort I've ever seen.

[@Demiurg_D]

The fire could have been put out with a fire extinguisher! They've brought in a bunch of equipment, and the firefighters are standing around preening...

[@martinlatal4625]

Jsou jak po mrtvici, nebo jedou na výlet😂😂😂🔥🚒🌞

[@martinlatal4625]

Třeba si říkají Co shoří to nezhnije😂😂😂

[@asunggi]

​Nó

[@ncfirefighter1519]

As a firefighter a couple things, one why did it take so long to get water in the first attack line? Two, since when does the driver of the first arriving engine pack up and leave the truck when there is no charged line yet? Three, Why are we going into a burning building without water in the line? four, people in the building not wearing a mask? Five, why so long foe water?

[@jofro520]

You're right...makes no sense.

[@andyoxleyonhistravels]

Because they don't know any better. Just made the fire worse.

[@lawrenceforte5353]

They are probably all volunteer fire men up there they have no clue

[@fighterpilot5105]

If you're smart to ask those questions you're smart enough to know the answers.

[@kenblock6186]

The chief kept walking around in what looked like a daze. As a retired firefighter, he took way too long to get a first line in. Crews were inside without water. Disorganized

[@sealectric9962]

This video makes me glad I don’t live in the area anymore. It took them over 7 minutes to charge the line. What’s more absurd is watching the full time Fire Department (Rockland) sit in the engine for two minutes and nobody even gets out to help. There are SCBA guys going in without masking up. I’m just glad nobody got injured.

[@virgilhilts3924]

Proving you know nothing about firefighting

[@andyoxleyonhistravels]

Proving he knows more than you. This was a shit show. Small fire to deal with, go in put water on it job done. Fannied around without charged lines , cut a hole in the roof then the whole roof went up and the interior crew in the loft space wasted most of the water they used which you could see being sent in to the sky because they used a solid stream. A slightly wider stream gives you a larger surface area which in turn absorbs more heat which in turns knocks the fire back quicker. But hey you wou know that being an Internet firefighter.

[@virgilhilts3924]

@@andyoxleyonhistravels Oh look it's Captain Butthurt still crying over his hurt feels 😂🤣😅 You and your fellow YT Fire Brigade Warriors fighting the good fight from behind your keyboards "Fire up them deck-guns fellas! Use CTL+D+SHIFT" 👨‍🚒🚒🚒👨‍🚒

[@andyoxleyonhistravels]

@@virgilhilts3924 lmao, still can't answer a question, must be a pretend firefighter. You love to say people don't know what they are talking about yet you never explain anything as to why. Clueless. If you think this is a good video of professional firefighters you need to find another occupation. 😉

[@michaelperkins739]

@@virgilhilts3924 This was a disgrace to the service. These guys did a terrible job, lots of mistakes. If you think that this was good firefight, YOU have no clue.

[@blinko656]

Finally after 10 minutes they charge the line.

[@RLTtizME]

Someone needs to help you interpret these videos. You are dazed and confused.

[@michaelb9529]

2.5 minutes into the video and it's already a gong show. Drive right past the hydrant (who needs water anyway). Then park right in front of the house where the ladder truck should be. The Mr Ladder drives past his second option and has to back up. And we're just getting started.

[@lindahoff7391]

How fast was the driver going when he blew the red light. Pathetic department.

[@Marrio49]

It took seven minutes for the first arriving company to get water after arriving at the seen and coming to a full stop. Those pumps probably have a 750 gallon tank and a inch and three-quarter line could’ve been enough to extinguish that fire if they acted quickly.

[@virgilhilts3924]

Thanks for confirming that you have no clue what you are babbling about

[@theroachden6195]

​@@virgilhilts3924750 gallons was enough to knock out the bulk of the fire when they first got there.

[@Diddley-js6lf]

I sure Miss it, after23 years of Firefighting I retired in 2013 and I swear there isn’t a day I don’t miss it.

[@patriciajones4744]

Could you be a volunteer?? Just thought I would ask.

[@virgilhilts3924]

I retired after 30 years on the job in a metro of ~1 million I have lots of hobbies and such but I finally had to volly as I missed it so much No where as busy but it gives a taste and gets the blood flowing regularly Although I will say this, I dont think I would want to be a big city FF today, all the guys I know say the vast majority of calls they run are EMS, often non-stop day and night. And the vast majority of those are nonsense like people calling 911 because they are constipated or they bought new shoes and their feet hurt, one was for a kid who got hacked with a water balloon, utterly absurd.

[@Richieblueeyez88]

Thank u for your service sir

[@fighterpilot5105]

Vollie here...Truck drivers feel the same way...

[@barleyfarquist1264]

Was this actually a firefighting operation? It appears that only one attack line was laid and there was 3 less than a million fire apparatus on the scene of an engine and ladder operation. Where was Incident Command and the coordinated fire attack? Bless you for what you do but it is time for some training before you end up killing yourselves on the fireground, not to mention the emergency response driving to the scene.

[@chrismckenna5361]

What a horribly terrifying video………. 5.09 for gas

[@uniteordie]

Based on the number of engines responding I’m guessing these guys don’t see too many real fires.

[@trvman1]

Could not believe how that one truck just blew thru that intersection against the red light without even slowing down. Good grief.

[@ekop1778]

GOT TO NY FOR REAL FIRES AND SEE

[@richardfissel3317]

Could be volunteers a need for staffing? They need to teach engine driver not to block street truck.

[@skipd9164]

@@trvman1 it looked like clear view in all directions. No need to drastically slow down

[@sinjon]

@@trvman1 Fire trucks don’t usually slow down at intersections when lights are going

[@bajamedic]

Great camera work showing how unbearably long it took to call for water. It’s embarrassing at minimums.

[@stevo6430]

Truck gets front of the house, not the engine

[@Ponyreiter]

That was my first thought too...

[@FloridaCatholicGuy]

I was just about to comment the engine needs to pull past the house to give room for the truck!

[@stuartcameron4279]

I thought venting the fire through the roof was slightly risky but perhaps putting some water on the fire in the first quater of an hour might have helped.

[@xzy89c]

Why was it risky?

[@catfishcave379]

It’s not that it took so long to get water on the fire, it’s that it took so long to get connected to a hydrant. Seriously, was this a training exercise with new firemen from several jurisdictions and that’s why the huge response. Since watching fire videos, both good and bad, I’ve bought more fire extinguishers. If you can’t get it out in the first minute, the fire dept isn’t going to save your house.

[@sherryrainey4866]

U got that

[@hypsyzygy506]

Early on there was an instruction to tell the water company to shut down their operations and (?charge up?) the hydrants. Which would suggest there wasn't water immediately available.

[@DV-tc1yr]

you dont need to be connected to a hydrant to charge a line ! the engine has water in it

[@Bouch1018]

I didn’t even realize this was in maine until 1/4 through it! Crazy something from maine finally came up. I was just in your classic rabbit hole watching fire videos. Nice video.

[@robp1316]

Were they waiting for an invite from the property owner to arrive by mail to allow them to enter? It was around 7 minutes after first engine on scene before any sign of water being available for use. Why do US fire fighters have a dislike of using on board tank water? That's assuming they actually have tank water. The first crew on scene looked like they were waiting for others to arrive so they didn't have to do anything. No sense of urgency at all.

[@hihfty]

It’s because every fire department in the United States thinks they know the best way of doing things and the national standard is a joke here. The amount of bad fire department’s far out way the good ones.

[@robertrussell7388]

As an ex British firefighter I agree with you no urgency at all. Almost like a training exercise not a shout

[@edgregg7371]

Fire in cock loft, not easy access, only smoke visible. Where was the actual fire? Until you open up, you don't know. Only put water on visible fire, not smoke.

[@robp1316]

@@edgregg7371 but you have to enter the building to find out where the fire is not take more than 5 minutes stood in the doorway fiddling with breathing apparatus and not have any water ready. Smoke gives indication of fire location and the door looked perfectly fine to me meanwhile fire getting more established upstairs. It looked like they had already decided to not even attempt to save an old building.

[@JB91710]

@@robertrussell7388 As a Third Generation USA firefighter, I couldn't agree with you more.

[@duenge]

Before I even get close to the 2 minute mark, notice the 2 dumpsters, and the over-grown yard. Either this home is or is going to be going through renovation, be aware that it will not act like a "normal" structure. Holes in the floor, walls removed, etc. OR, it is a shit hole inside and the Bank has yet to clean it out.....And, let the ladder truck take the front of the house....

[@michaellake5269]

Maybe some water would help, but I'm not a fireman.

[@spaceagent1574]

Only took 8 mins for water #TYFYS also don’t know why it’s not standard procedure that as the first due engine ur laying 3 in or 5in on a SF and don’t park the engine in front of the building ffs

[@JB91710]

Because that ladder toy is so much more fun to play with.

[@ianlounsbury1544]

@@JB91710 Unfortunately, there is a whole lot of truth to that. I have seen towns buy ladder trucks so large they could not even fit inside the firehouse! All to assuage the new Chief's oversize ego.

[@JB91710]

@@ianlounsbury1544 Most, so called "Leaders" are the downfall of all they touch. One ignorant fire training officer creates an entire department of ignorant firefighters.

[@spaceagent1574]

@@JB91710 it’s a joke I look at it this way the engine crew are FIREMEN… the truck crew are the engines crews helpers they are VESing, Venting, Laddering the building. Unless that engine crew is low on staffing and they need help taking the line in then the truck crew can help and search off a line if need be… the problem I see with fire depts volunteer or career is some places don’t have riding assignments so when u get off the engine or truck it’s pure fucking chaos

[@spaceagent1574]

@@JB91710 it’s not a hard concept to do or put into your SOGs Engine- Driver who pumps the apparatus or can throw a ladder to the rear if your doing lines over ladders. OFFICER- Conducts a 360 report giving the amount of floors in the rear and any exposure issues and also gives layout instructions for next in engine. Pipeman- grabs the correct diameter hose and correct length in my opinion it’s always ok to pull more line then not have enough if you pull a 150 and u think u might need more have your backup man go back and get a rack/high rise load. Then you have your Irons and Layout with are pretty explanatory

[@BiggRedd2972]

I am hoping this was an abandoned house and this was training because no one on that fire scene knew what the hell was going on

[@elizabethgeorgia8286]

Why are they just standing around. The water isn't even turned on 😮. I see line's out but No water. Okay now I see one line with water now.

[@joegaito702]

Doing there jobs taking care of business let's stop and honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated great job great catches as usual still going strong keep them safe out there way to go you guys rock thanks let's hope everyone is doing ok right ? Joe

[@Diantane]

Looks like there is a smoke machine upstairs. Don't see any fire. These firefighters must have sat around for a year and now get a chance to try out all their toys.

[@pseudodoglover2124]

They are not in hurry. Slow and steady wins the race, but slow and steady misses the Bus. Report 15% damaged by fire, 5 % damaged by firefighter.

[@s4brainsxp]

0:35 Can't believe the engine went through the red light without stopping then preceding, potentially a bad situation !!!!

[@wvhappykatz]

I wondered that myself.

[@ianlounsbury1544]

@@wvhappykatz In Maine the driver of a fire engine is allowed to do that. The "duty to yield" rests on the other motorists. Title 29-A. Sec. 2054, para. 5(b).

[@JB-js6kq]

@@ianlounsbury1544 None the less it creates an incredible risk. Regardless how title 29 " reads" I wonder how the insurance carrier for Thomaston would feel. In Standish we operate under the same yield laws but not stopping at a stop sign or light is not part of our SOP.

[@SD45-ET44AC]

1.) PLEASE drive safely. That code on the books doesn’t do any good, especially if you never stop and you wreck the rig and then you have multiple emergencies with less personnel to manage them. How many cars at that intersection were there, four, five ?? You don’t know what one of those other drivers could have done and at the speed the fire engine was traveling how many lives would have been negatively affected?!?! 2.) I had a driveway collapse under my ambulance (no one posted any signage indicating the driveway was washed out underneath, yet the family knew) so although it wasn’t my fault, we ended up with 2 different calls. One was the original cardiac call and the second was my unit, that rolled three times, and was sitting eighty seven feet down the side of a mountain that had four members on board who thankfully were able to crawl up the mountain and were able to walk away despite becoming four patients to be dealt with at that time. 3.) The patient’s family, who owned the driveway, happened to have a single stranded barbed wire fence running parallel to the driveway and it was destroyed by the ambulance and I got sued. But my county countersued for the cost of a fully stocked four wheel drive ambulance and the medical bills for the four patients. 4.) Please be safe, don’t take chances, this call haunts me, even after nearly forty years.

[@andyoxleyonhistravels]

@@ianlounsbury1544 Thats how people get killed.

[@isabelalvarenga2311]

Mi gran respeto para los bomberos, gracias por su trabajo

[@fozzywxman]

Call me crazy, but at some time in the first 10 minutes, it might have been a good idea to put that awesome ladder at the gable, and jam a 2.5" into the attic. Could have cooled that attic space off before venting. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@JB91710]

Right idea but wrong approach. Climb to the top floor, create an opening in the ceiling, insert a nozzle open to a medium cone of water from a 1-3/4" line or even a Booster Line, and fog the attic space with water. The heat, smoke and water vapor will exit through the gable end vents. No ladders or roof work required. You have all the windows you need to vent smoke and heat. This was a piece of cake they turned into a mess.

[@ianlounsbury1544]

Good idea, but Kelvin, the power line was in the way of the Ladder extension. So they could not get to the gable. They went for an interior attack from downstairs.

[@RLTtizME]

Crazy. The truth be told.

[@stevo6430]

That’s what I would of done after I punched out those two windows.

[@RLTtizME]

@@stevo6430 You Fireboys love to break windows...

[@nancylivingston8006]

Why did it take so long for them to start attacking the fire ?

[@andyb9072]

Damn we could of pissed on and put it out before they got any water going hell 10 minutes in and they had water in a hose but not 1 drop on the fire Holly fuck 12:16 into the video they finally put water on the outside of the house that's unacceptable!!!!

[@williamschlenger1518]

All these towns have great equipment but no one seems to know how to use it.

[@Allison-ti5vv]

Then Mr expert enlighten us.

[@justanotherguy1110]

@@Allison-ti5vv I'll absolutely enlighten you. When it takes you 7 minutes to get water on your FIRST attack line, you have no business being a firefighter. That's beyond embarrassing, it's pathetic actually.

[@berniesmith9618]

The driver of the engine blowing the red light should be prosecuted. This is what gives fire fighters a bad name. Never seen a ladder set up and left alone. Also nice job cutting the video when the fire fighter touch the line when climbing the ladder.

[@ecw5394]

1:15 in... Mr Police man, learn how to park and not obstruct emergency traffic.

[@pogump]

I think that there where more firetrucks on this house fire than in the movie Towering Inferno with Steve Mc Queen…….

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

Your camera work rises above the competition on KZbin.

[@CoolFireTrucks]

Thank you very much!

[@illinoisoutlaw2197]

The only thing i'm wondering is why the engineer packed up instead of pumping the truck, There was enough manpower between those first two units that he didn't have to go interior.

[@paulsheehan5010]

My friend was a Fireman in Wellesley, (Boston Suburb)., at 64, he's probably retired.

[@sinjon]

How about we get some water on that fire from that water cannon guys

[@JohnGianiris-nc2xq]

When they opened the roof...I knew it was the end.

[@vfdchauffer3606]

Never understand why you fly the stick and then use ground ladders to drags saws and tools to the roof. That big thing is meant to climb and provide a safer environment to work from.

[@JB91710]

Boys with their toys and a complete lack of knowledge or ability to use them intelligently.

[@coneplato6702]

Power lines.

[@timlettbus]

That dude in the pony tail wearing the TAS vest is totally lost.

[@alanleo4980]

Love all the comments from folks who weren't at this fire and thus have no idea what went on inside this house or anything else that took place other than what you saw in the video. Did things go perfectly....nope, is firefighting black and white...nope. But I sure learned on thing after all of these comments, you guys should feel so lucky that you all live in your perfect cities and towns, with your perfect fire departments and your perfect firefighters who never have issues and always get water on that fire as soon as your feet hit the ground!!! Constructive criticism and questions is acceptable and justifiable but your snarky ass comments are pathetic!!!!! You boys sure did make your departments proud.......

[@clydegelsleichter708]

.....and a computer system (used to be a ring binder) in every unit, with an attack plan, hydrant location or pre-planned tanker requests from mutual aid ready to act on. Scott-Packs mounted in crew cabin ready to wear during inbound travel to scene. Check and Clear structure team ready to enter on arrival. Reel hose on 500ga internal tank (with dump valve closed please) deployed until hookup to external water supply. Truck to roof position for cut-saw into roof and vent. Adjacent structures cleared and protected, in the event of an evacuation of personnel, Surround and Drown. We get training at our County Fire Training Center --- a concrete building to get it right the first time, There might not be another. Be Safe Brother !

[@ericscott430]

A couple of things from a 20 year still active career FF and current LT of a busy Ladder company in the 2nd largest east coast dept, the first engine on scene chose terrible positioning making it tough for the incoming ladder, looking at the smoke's velocity (it's floating out not pushing out the fire's more than likely in the walls or ceiling in this case in the void space between the ceiling and roof in the section of the city where I work we have a lot of A frame roofs like these the key is getting in there quick with a charged line and ceiling hooks to open it up to get the water into the attic space and also get ground ladders up quicker to open the roof I think the companies did a good job but just a little slow in execution.

[@ak-488]

My kid said, wa wa, wa wa while watching.

[@christineblaszczyk1602]

If everyone is out of this house then I don't see any reason to risk these firefighters lives other then making sure it doesn't spread to other homes. looks like everyone is safe. I also know this might have been a training drill. Stay safe.

[@jacauber]

respectez les personnes qui ne partagent pas votre avis monsieur " je sais tout " !!!

[@mipspc]

Why so long to hook up hydrant 200' away?

[@mcmullinyardhaunt]

What happened to due regard when blowing through the red light?

[@milo6308]

if you can see theres no oncoming traffic you dont need to stop stfu probie

[@moemcgovern7345]

It's an emergency vehicle. They are allowed to go through the red lights. The other traffic needs to stop and let them go.

[@moemcgovern7345]

Read your drivers manual.

[@mcmullinyardhaunt]

@@moemcgovern7345 not without due reguard

[@itsyaboimat2393]

@@moemcgovern7345 we have to drive with due regard in the state of Maine regardless of if we are running code 3 or code 2 we are no good to the people who called for our help if we wreck on the way to the call

[@lilliazlobina9623]

This hole in the roof was made for the worst only - they made a draught for the fast and strong fire.

[@teamidris]

The way that house didn’t burn I would say it was old slow grow dense wood. Proper wood like your grandpa used to use :o)

[@danielmoulder9184]

So set the aerial up and not use it. Painful to watch honestly. Everyone just stands around….. Danggggg

[@gwilymjones1298]

Could someone please explain why FD's in the US seem to take for ever to put water on? Here in the UK as soon as we arrive on scene we literally JUMP out of the engines Hoses out and Water On. We aim to have water on within 3 minutes of arriving on scene, But time and time again in American videos I notice they take at least 10 minutes to get the first drop of water on. Very concerning.

[@raypitts4880]

i see that fridge on fire middle flat man goes in carries woman out left the fridge half her weight 20 mins later truck appears fridge still on fire plugged in 3 story's gone in 30 mins what a bloody shambles

[@rd4660]

Probably a volunteer fire department. FFs have to leave their homes/jobs to drive their personal vehicles to the scene. The way it is outside of large cities in the US.

[@gwilymjones1298]

@@rd4660 Hmmm possibly. But I have seen the same behaviour from FFs in American cities. They turn up, very calmly stem down from the truck, take for ever and a day to get their equipment, then for some unknown reason FFs go into the burning building with Water protection. The way FFs are trained in the US is very odd indeed

[@gordonjeffery2062]

It's depends on how many fires on gets. This fire wouldn't take a half a tank. Less than 3 minutes. Experience is the key

[@gilzor9376]

A little quick to call out the whole of the USA . . . . lol This is a backwoods volunteer area, this certainly is not indicative of the whole country. You Brits will stop at nothing to try and bring the US down to your level . . . lol . . . have fun!

[@mistyeyes2161]

There doesn't seem to be any urgency with usa firemen and ive watched a lot of these videos so if sntone is still inside a burning house they probably won't be alive

[@drewski8138]

At first I thought vertical venting that pitched roof was a bad idea. They thought well ahead! It ended up isolating the fire and exposing for significant knockdown

[@berniecom728]

All fire equipment is to stop at red lights then go they are no different than a car, many accidents happen when a fire apparatus don't stop at a red light, people get killed or serious injured.

[@josephdillon7420]

Don't they have fire hydrants on this street, why so many firetrucks, for water!!!

[@williamedwards1528]

Doesn't make sense to drag a charged line up stairs and around sharp corners. I'm surprised that no one asked why they didn't use the deck gun.

[@ianlounsbury1544]

This house was reported listed on the tax rolls as having a value of about $36,000. I speculate that at that number, the old house will be a tear-down. Typically, unoccupied houses are not insurable, so there would be no funds to gut and rebuild this old structure. The piece of land is worth something, even if only for overflow boat storage for the yard across the street.

[@JB91710]

After spending my entire career in construction and 10 years in my Restoration business, I can tell you it would be a sin to demolish this structurally intact and vintage structure. If the fire department hadn't screwed up this fight by allowing the roof structure to burn, this would have been an easy clean up and repair. But this was just another example of the horrific USA work ethic citizens have to deal with at that LOW end of the employment scale.

[@ianlounsbury1544]

@@JB91710 With an intact roof structure, the logical way to snuff out the fire would be to flood the building by piping in an inert gas - and thus displacing the oxygen component in air. Such gases could be nitrogen, carbon dioxide, and even argon. But that approach implies a gaseously intact upper structure, and usually a fire will have already burned through to create a "vent," so the gas approach is dubious. Instead, firemen rely on water, and lots of it. In this case, the men cut a vent hole in the roof to allow hot gases to escape, while an attack team went in from downstairs. But it took longer than expected, so the fire got draft and flame spread through the attic and second floor. That wood has been drying since 1875, so it burns fast. Rural Maine is filled with old, worn-out buildings that are energy hogs and functionally obsolete. There is nothing special about this old place. Those old houses are tinder-boxes, and built without insulation, as "balloon houses." Once fire starts in those old structures, it spreads rapidly through the cavities, which were built without fire-breaks. If the house is an energy hog, unaffordable to heat, and a fire-trap, what incentive is there to rebuild it? When those places burn, the usual result is removal of the debris. You can see the result in every Maine town, where a row of old houses suddenly has a mini-park, a lot with just grass. Well, that one used to be an old house that burned, and got torn down. As to your comment about low-end work ethic, these Maine departments are volunteer. Thomaston is "pay-per-call," the town offers a small stipend as appreciation to the men that abandon their other work to come in and fight the fire. You are being a bit harsh by dumping on them for not having a perfect fire attack. There is no money for a full-time department in rural Maine, so the citizens step up to the plate and do the best they can. (I live in the next town over, on that department). Cheers.

[@JB91710]

@@ianlounsbury1544 The key to any group of humans is strong leadership. In the USA fire service, it is almost non existent. With a 1957 Mack engine and four component workers, this fire could have been a piece of cake with zero roof work required.

[@emanueledinatale4645]

intervento tardivo. Troppo tempo a discutere. 5 squadre e la casA distrutta.

[@nikgavrilov993]

Пока брандмейстеры общались я уже успел пообедать

[@jimkeappock7558]

How about charging that ladder pipe and attack the fire from above!

[@virgilhilts3924]

Amazing how many "former firefighters" here have absolutely no clue what they are even looking at. So lets start with this... the house was clearly vacant and had been double checked by the first officer on location, meaning there was no need to rush as no lives were at stake. So you do not needlessly risk FF lives over property. Second, this was clearly a confined space fire (attic) above the second division that had not vented yet, it was oxygen starved so you dont just go rushing in and start tearing down the ceiling as the moment you do O2 gets in and feeds the fire. Better to let it stay starved and take your time SLOWLY venting the roof that way the heat escapes vertically, tearing down the second division ceiling will result in the heat and smoke flooding it and needlessly making for poor conditions. Instead you get your crews and lines in place while the roof division sets up to start ventilation, once it begins the interior crew can start pulling the ceiling in cooler/clearer conditions and knock down the fire. Working it this way is much safer and actually causes far less damage. Educate yourselves before talking trash, and those who CLEARLY have never been a firefighter... stop making fools of yourselves.

[@JB91710]

Let's have some fun with Virgil. Not one word about fire suppression. Not one word about opening the ceiling with a charged line to fog the attic which will cool all the gasses and wet down the flammable materials. "So, you do not needlessly risk FF lives over property.' You can say that and Vertical Ventilation in the same comment? That's a 12-pitch roof meaning it is at a 45-degree angle. You think it is safe climbing up there and working with tools? All you have to do is climb to the second floor, open the windows, open the ceiling and wet down the attic. Here, go learn something about real firefighting. kzbin.info/aero/PLkp0E1ao1XEzg384QZ4ovMA_6P7gCY3nJ This is how great VVing works. kzbin.info/aero/PLkp0E1ao1XEy2uMomAtjWfScRFcCUmwwv

[@millieo7155]

It is not obvious to me the house was vacant. How can you tell? The dumpster?

[@jdaz5462]

What's amazing is every fire video has a "pro" making excuses for bad service. The taxpayers expect more.

[@virgilhilts3924]

@@jdaz5462 Cite specifically what you claim is "bad service" then explain what was done wrong, and how it should have been done...

[@jdaz5462]

@@virgilhilts3924 Keep making excuses for shotty work.

[@paulsheehan5010]

I wish Fire engines and ambulances had red and blue lights front and year, red is the color for stop and danger and blues is a fire and medical color, CODE BLUE , Medical, light your stove to boil some water, if you have a blue flame, that's gas, leaving all read for Police.

[@paulsheehan5010]

Emergency Lights should back to Federal Law, that lasted until 1968.

[@tedrufledtjr.3573]

No shit. And at least 10 minutes to first line charged. Good grief.

[@joed9491]

That driver engineer needs to learn how to drive. There are plenty of drivers out there who have their heads up their butts and will continue right through the intersection because they have the green light and that engine had the red. It happens all too often when emergency responders like this one, fail to clear their intersections and yes, even fire engines with their Federal Signlas Q-sirens and air horns blaring. If someone had continued to cross or made a left turn, with all that weight which includes hundreds of gallons of water sloshing around, do you really think you would've been able to stop in time? You're no good if you can't get there!

[@dalegaus276]

Exactly! I noticed that as well!

[@TheC1kabar]

Those firefighter suck. Not aggressive enough.

[@marystruchen2217]

Unless you're familiar with how firefighters work don't be critical

[@gerryquinn5224]

As a professional firefighter in the London Fire Brigade (UK) for many years, I can justifiably say that the American fire service are a disgrace to the profession.

[@theshadow4292]

What the Hell, a pickup truck painted all white and traveling far in excess of the posted speed limit, with no insignias denoting it as being a Fire Department vehicle, while using a blaring siren and flashing emergency lights, passing and forcing autos to the curb, running through red lights at a 4-way intersection and no one thinks this is not only against the law, but is also exceptionally dangerous for the public. (Hey, look Mom, look everybody, I'm a Volunteer Firefighter Hero) Yes, and like all VFF's (heroes) he/they know just enough about firefighting to fill one-half of a real firefighter's boot with accrued knowledge concerning personal firefighting experience, fire behavior, firefighting techniques, fire suppression, and fire extinguishment. More importantly, the self-imposed oath to serve the public and to save lives and property as the mental reason for becoming and being a Professional Firefighter.

[@virgilhilts3924]

How many FD's rejected your application before you became this bitter 🤣

[@anselmotaccola8904]

What turtles.

[@BurningCircleSerbia]

Proof that equipment cannot compensate the lack of expertise. Here in Serbia one truck with the water gun would stop the fire in couple of minutes.

[@6910Marina]

Зато машины блестят, и можно по улицам красиво проехать. А дом, новый построят 😂😂

[@jeananderson815]

17 fire trucks 14 ambulances, 9 water trucks, that should do it

[@bradhanson4803]

Lol

[@6910Marina]

И один сгоревший дом.

[@Backnine907]

I was hoping another thirty or forty trucks would have shown up for this one.

[@aquadan005]

First in engine made two glaring mistakes in my opinion. One they passed a hydrant that they could have dropped in from and had the second engine hook it for them, and second (more importantly) they blocked the ladder truck from better access.

[@fredbiden868]

they sure did,,no supply line for like 8 mins or more then only one line on the attack..then I see ladder trucks with water cannons on them do nothing at all...are they Not trained to use them??

[@skipd9164]

@@fredbiden868 hookup to a hydrant and use your man power. The other option is Pull up and not knowing if a you or kids are inside. If any issues you can immediately enter with water. Knowing there are trucks coming behind you. I would go for 2nd option

[@marcuslorensen8306]

@@fredbiden868 We always let 2nd due in engine catch the plug and use our water tank till we get supply line. I noticed that it was the 4 engine in that hooked the plug.

[@marcuslorensen8306]

@@skipd9164 It was stated several times that the house was checked twice for occupants by prior firemen before engine arrival. It did not show this but was mentioned as an after note.

[@franciscomireles8357]

What I see is that this firefighters are talking their sweet time and just walking up and down pretending to be doing something,then they are just standing watching it burn

[@richardthornton3051]

The way I see it is this could have been prevented from gettin worse by everyone gettin in unity as one instead of within cause that causes a life to be lost includeing a firefighter

[@genegustafson1665]

So what is the purpose of cutting holes in the roof if they are trying to put out the fire in the first place, doesn't make any sense letting the smoke out and oxygen in to make the fire burn hotter and through the whole house, I don't understand why.

[@20truck]

This is very sad to watch it's like children having toys they don't know how to play with. The chief apparently has no clue what he's doing you have guys standing at the door with no charged hose and the guy on the ladder truck is just moving the ladder around with no one to go up the ladder to do a job. The first thing they could have done was stretch that line and got water on the fire they're just standing around I guess there's no one at the engine to to be the engineer and run the pumps. The firefighter on the roof with the ladder it's a wonder he didn't die the only thing holding that ladder on that roof was the vent fan it had no hooks to reach over the ridge if that would have slid he would have been dead. Just because this was a volunteer fire department doesn't mean the men shouldn't have good training I've seen volunteer fire department show up and within 30 seconds have 2 lines charged and water on the fire. As they say in top gun this might of been a successful move and they saved the house but I think this is an example of what not to do. Volunteer departments you got to love them, they show up with an army to fight a fire there must have been 6 trucks on scene.

[@marcuslorensen8306]

I counted 11, with one more coming after the fire was put out. Also, they were on scene with all this equipment for over 4 hours. If they had fought the fire when they arrived, it would been out in no more than an hour.

[@glennjohnston2267]

Good catch sir. Well done. 👍

[@KadiMahidi-bo6sb]

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[@margief1798]

You all need to stop at red lights!! At least slow way down!! We (fire depts) are NOT entitled!!

[@mikeysan01]

$5.09 for gas???? Jeez!!!!!!!!

[@apmullen]

Might be a good idea to put Water on the fire when you arrive! Just a suggestion.

[@virgilhilts3924]

Might be a good idea to have even the slightest clue what you are talking about before you start typing next time

[@549BR]

Good having the preemptive dumpster there, because there's nothing left of that structure worth saving. Are all those ambulances required; for what exactly?

[@raypitts4880]

make it look good so they can be financed

[@cynthiaellis4637]

God With Yal Save Lives

[@timlettbus]

Another example of SLOW response to a fire. The guys seem to move in extreme slow motion and just let the fire consume the structure. Wonder if the response would be the same if it was one of their homes burning?????

[@virgilhilts3924]

Let me take a moment to educate you... The house was clearly vacant and had been double checked by the first officer on location, meaning there was no need to rush as no lives were at stake. So you do not needlessly risk FF lives over property. Second, this was clearly a confined space fire (attic) above the second division that had not vented yet, it was oxygen starved so you dont just go rushing in and start tearing down the ceiling as the moment you do O2 gets in and feeds the fire. Better to let it stay starved and take your time SLOWLY venting the roof that way the heat escapes vertically, tearing down the second division ceiling will result in the heat and smoke flooding it and needlessly making for poor conditions. Instead you get your crews and lines in place while the roof division sets up to start ventilation, once it begins the interior crew can start pulling the ceiling in cooler/clearer conditions and knock down the fire. Working it this way is much safer and actually causes far less damage.

[@marcuslorensen8306]

They were all fired up and doing reckless disregard getting to fire, but then they forgot why they came.

[@richardthornton3051]

They should work as a team o matter if ones dislikes the others

[@barrymfda]

should have been a quick easy knockdown

[@AndiS-dz4pq]

Wow, at least six towns got involved, Thomaston, South Thomaston, Rockland, Camden, Waldeboro, and Friendship.

[@orlandogamboa5020]

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[@fuzz21750]

Nice video but as a full time operator for a paid department I cringe when I see another company just blow a red light with NO REGARD as Rockland E2 did at the beginning of this video. If this is your practice then you better have good insurance!!!!

[@txhobtolwmtiam3389]

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[@mileswindham8336]

I know basically nothing bout fire fighting, but have never seen more equipment at this size fire.

[@dennis4679]

That hose looks bright, shiny and new! Looked like the truck got water before the attack line. I was just waiting for that ladder guy to let loose with that master stream and blow the back of the house out!

[@paulsheehan5010]

Smoking in bed?

[@happyjack880]

Ladder gets the front door!

[@Natnast69]

First time opening a roof for ventilation? That alone was hard to watch. "Dispatch from command. Give me a second alarm for more personnel to wander around aimlessly."

[@andyb9072]

What a piss poor job by the firefighters in glad we don't live there damn.

[@dudeorduderorelduderino9087]

Water.......?

[@KadiMahidi-bo6sb]

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[@ต้าร์นะคะ-ณ2ล]

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[@ausfuhrpramienjagar]

Where there's smoke there's fire fellas.. What is taking so long to get a charged line into the structure and to the source?

[@J.Roberts33-02]

That engine cranking through the major intersection on a red light😱, always assume people will do the stupidest thing possible and at least be prepared to stop. I’m not even getting into the fireground operations there! It’s beyond time the government starts funding volunteer training and paying us for attending classes at minimum. Should be available water for the fire within 30 seconds of arrival that’s also the rate at which fire doubles in size. I could go on with my arm chair quarter backing but I’ll leave it there I don’t know their full situation, only how it appears from here.

[@nicolersc]

Is the railroad crossing still in use?

[@CoolFireTrucks]

Yes