The Reroll Commences! [TDP]

[@handro33]

"We have one minute to get 5%, get up Finn!" Best part of entire video lol

[@richardjones8846]

wake the fuck up samurai... we have a key to burn.

[@nickolasroper3237]

Worth the entire watch.

[@HOBOTw1tcH]

Agreed!

[@scottanderson3026]

@@nickolasroper3237..

[@jamiew.4224]

I’ve killed myself with shadow word: death more times than I care to admit.

[@cheezman22production]

99% of the time you cast it your fine so when your in a situation where it will kill you, you just don't think about it. I laugh every single time it kills me haha

[@jamiew.4224]

@@cheezman22production exactly.. and I laugh too because my dumb ass deserved that death lol

[@adherry8142]

@@cheezman22production Shade of Barghast before they changed it that the redirected damage from that mob is not excessive any more.

[@Neugo_play]

I was a warrior at the start of this tier, and felt so frustrated when we wiped to ppl not doing the mechanichs, i just rerolled to a fresh hunter from lvl 1, so that i can do mechanichs and not get punished for it in dps :D Now i'm a happy hunter and feel bad for my melee friends @Sludgefist or just M+ in general. Feels so much easier, not to deal with mechanichs, or have an easier time due to more space generally.

[@musicwatcher666]

Really liking all the content you;re producing atm a video a day is insane

[@ethannumber1]

Good man Preach moving into eflo at 17:07. The little things.

[@its.araragi]

As a r dudu I love to see that

[@basecubi]

i just love those TDPs, having a blast just listen to them while playing

[@jonathansoko1085]

listening to the worst of the worst kind of meta slaves chase every possible meta over and over, yeah grea time.

[@Johndoe-gd4tb]

How? Finn has no personality (for this, he’d be a chill mate but incredibly boring to listen to) and preach is the same ole same ole shit as always. TDP possibly most boring wow videos on youtube

[@Crkinghorn]

@@Johndoe-gd4tb 0 personality.

[@sofapillow7660]

it isn’t just me who thinks finn is a bit of an altoholic right

[@dalekkgames5430]

No lifer

[@Crkinghorn]

what a loser

[@sam-6424]

@@Crkinghorn poor fin :(

[@sofapillow7660]

lmao i’m not being toxic friends he can play how he wants. was just pointing something out

[@nickperrette9264]

Hello ballas!!! Easily one of the best intros on KZbin. Time to bring it back preach

[@jackiethomas3301]

hey boys at 4:30 or so in the video you ask why things like psychic link doesn't work out well, and the reason is that they scales it off of vampiric touch, and that is also what auspicious spirits scales off of. and the auspicious spirits do a flat amount more damage than 50% of a mind blast, in basically all senarios. thats why they only run that talent with things that only effect minds blast, for example the talbadars leggo and the mind blast conduit.

[@bratwurst7308]

Well, in most Dungeons, pulls are too big and die too fast to dot everything and then mindblast. But Mists, Theater and spires Work quite well with psychic link (and Fortress, talbadars + conduit). Eventhough i am not Sure about psychic Link in spires/Theater, as These Dungeons have so much Singletarget, that i might not wanna give Up on apparitions.

[@jackiethomas3301]

@@bratwurst7308 well thats just it, in basically all situations aspicious spirits does more damage than psychic link, without really even trying, and doing more single target dps. a good change would to to either make psychic link scale off of shadow word pain, or to make physhic link launch a seperate mind blast even on single target.

[@TheGamerReaper]

I absolutely love melee dps but the game feels so designed around ranged, both in M+ and raids, makes me want to reroll. Especially in most M+ you can just stand back and dps as ranged, while melee has to deal with all the mechanics and shitty affixes like storming

[@PretentiousLatinName]

cries in warrior

[@electriczagnut4937]

It feels like PoE/Diablo. Pull huge packs of mobs and big bads, kite them around, and burn them down. This play style needs to stay in those games. TL;DR Kite Tanking is dumb.

[@Kronos_88]

Yeah it feels like the balance is just off. Tanks having to kite every single pack of mobs on some weeks, makes melee DPS even worse. Melee DPS is like 20% dealing damage, 20% mitigating damage, and 60% moving around mechanics. While ranged DPS feels like 90% doing damage and 10% moving around mechanics. I rerolled into a Warlock and found it really boring to play, since most fights you can actually just stand still 90% of the time.

[@Heero_effect]

On the melee note...I love playing Melee it’s always the type of character I enjoy as my main hero across other games. But it is really hard to get out of things especially as a DK

[@kail_6019]

Warrior have Pain in aggro.. very easy to get hit from mobs + you have maybe Storming get aggro affix hit you if you run away

[@SupachargedGaming]

Why get out of things when you can just AMS and ignore things :D

[@michaelfoster3758]

It takes time to get used to avoiding stuff as a melee, but honestly I couldnt imagine doing a boss like sludgefist as a ranged who has cast bars, I am too used to being able to use instants all the time while moving out, circling around to a better spot or otherwise, if you have a good melee shot caller you can ensure that it is very safe even on bosses that are bad for melee

[@Orapac4142]

I love my DK, outside of how clunky unholy feels, and how immobile it is.

[@berndbernd3464]

@@Orapac4142 its not as clunky with the lego and right soulbind... But on the other hand. A class should not need external crap to play smoth!

[@KhamaelMag]

I love the bants between you and fin!

[@SondreGrneng]

I like the more hectic playstyle melee often have a lot more, though ranged is far more convenient to play if you get what I mean.

[@legion4698]

that playstyle only works for warriors as warriors have the "im a warrior" excuse if they die to anything

[@RM-nf5eq]

Fin killing himself for the deeps and still being bottom is so delicious! Never change you elitist bastard!

[@Michaelolivermussi]

So I raid mythic as unholy and I love it, but I’m about to level and gear up a frost mage alt just so I can enjoy dungeons and m+ again! I know fire is better but I think I’m at the point of the pac that I just want to play what I love, not what’s best.

[@TeddyBear1212121]

Frost is very strong so you’re not putting yourself at a disadvantage

[@edwardhatfield5360]

frost got a decent buff, you may be surprised at how strong a geared frost mage is right now.

[@Huffman_Tree]

Me seeing the preview thumbnail "man his transplant grew in much quicker than I expected"

[@UXUXA]

Is shadow set to scale well into next patch? Thinking of rolling one

[@hillwarrior6]

What does the TDP mean? The dungeon podcast?

[@DemonPiddle]

The Daily Preach

[@momentofenlightenment6004]

The double penetration

[@XRay2x]

ten dirty panties

[@sparkysparkyboomman761]

What are the best resources online to help you min -max your character (prot/ret)? New to this community, and I'm trying to improve.

[@looq5984]

Basics from guides on wowhead/icyveins. Rest from logs, streams/content from exceptional players, experimenting yourself.

[@ganstaeddie7]

warcraftlogs website, sort by ret palladin per boss and see what talents and gear they run etc. Bloodmallet website for more data and simulationcraft website. You can checkout class guides on wowhead or icyveins but take them with a grain of salt because only SOME of the writers are actually good at the game and know what they're talking about. I found the warr and dk ones pretty accurate for example.

[@thevo4100]

Use Warcraft Logs and you can paste your logs into WOW Analyser and it will give you a report that will criticise your game play to pedantic levels. 'You could have cast 30 holy shocks but you only cast 29.'

[@Wavorn100]

At 3:25 what is the background music?

[@tylerfries3318]

Ranged is a literal wheelchair tier of dps compared to meele. Takes 3 brain cells to raid as ranged.

[@ismount]

Sweet. What are we on now? Like season 4 of Finn Fights FOMO?

[@Crkinghorn]

Yeah this is a legit problem I have in life not just in WoW

[@hampus6647]

Does anyone know the name of the addon/Weak aura Preach uses for energy regen and CD's? looking for something like that for my hunter!

[@killiangodfrey2116]

They're weakauras, you can find preaches on his UI video. My favorite is from wago.io search "Afenar", he makes one for every class/spec

[@Left_]

Outlaw rogue is actually pretty good with RNG in SL, because of the "Count the Odds" conduit. It gives you a chance to gain a roll the bones buff each time you use dispatch/ambush. And if you also spec into "Marked for Death" you are swimming in dispatch casts. Now to be fair, this was my first time ever playing outlaw (Any my only other dps class I played was a DH), so I don't have any other patch/class to compare it to, but I found that rotation very engaging. The fact that your action priority changes slightly depending on which buffs you get felt very engaging.

[@JC-ok4yx]

As a rogue main, watching the PoV from two ranged toons made me jealous.

[@PatrickMurray1966]

So jealous. Playing ranged feels like a vacation when I dink around on an alt, heh. I may have to main a hunter instead of rogue.

[@ShaunaJade96]

Important roles often end up swapping to a meta class. Maybe one healer switches to fotm to double stack the bis healer or a tank goes veng to bring chaos brand (just examples from CN)

[@joeyl564]

Having switched back to ranged i'm having trouble couping with being ranged and all the cast times 🙄

[@samharper1082]

Just keep going mate. It's taken me months but I think I'm there...

[@veradrost9654]

I'm terrible at melee because the lack of cast times means I have less time to think about my next move. At some point your next move becomes instinct, but I'm ele shaman atm and the prio list is massive.

[@Thrano]

Rerolling from fury to MM right now because my raidlead said something about needing more ranged dps. Will probably still main the warrior, but it's nice to have a class with different playstyle to fall back on.

[@edwardhatfield5360]

Love playing and do play melee. The raid advantages for ranged are clearly abundant. While I prefer to dps raid, usually I have to off tank so instead of having two main toons for raid I just Pally it up for those two roles.

[@TacBlades]

Casuals have know this for years play what you love, end of, no unsub after last boss, no login just for raid, long term guilds because of fun.

[@finnersz]

I just made it to mythic sludge as a ret and I cant wait to be benched :)

[@Jackpkmn]

The first boss in mists isn't immune when his shield is up just 80% DR.

[@mazztothemax1888]

I wouldn’t call pugging two players to your 3 good players a high risk. It’s when you pug the whole 4.

[@TheBlizzzard123]

yh and imagine having 226 ppl in your pug lol

[@albert2006xp]

If you check them properly you won't have many issues. Though if you're doing Mists like these two, no shit you won't have issues lol.

[@GHIBaal]

I think we're gonna see a lot of changes until the final new 9. 1 patch. Worried but somehow thinking positive.

[@loqpa2364]

It would be so cool to get data from raider io on shadow priest covenants before and after simc bug was discovered. How many people did eventually swap to fae because with new Sims they "became" good

[@clintscott9531]

What addon is @fingle using for the quests on the right? Adds a scroll wheel and keeps it same size

[@JirxOnGames]

Kaliel's Quest Tracker

[@clintscott9531]

@@JirxOnGames thank you so much bud

[@StoovTV]

i think its fair to say that ranged and melee dpsers are just inherently different at this point. One does encounter mechanics well. the other dodges boss mechanics well. I find its rare for people to overlap with these differences at least in my experience.

[@eternalevil3897]

I'm crying in Frost DK Frozen tears

[@eliotopian]

isn't that... im sleeting? *scratches chin*

[@eternalevil3897]

@@eliotopian yea .. I throw some ice to the eyes then right after a big snowball "Surprise M.fakka" style.

[@eternalevil3897]

@Cthulhu The problem is not the damage .. it's the way we deal damage .. when all the core skills in the spell book are useless and just rely on an honor talent and a legendary power to be able to secure a kill means the core class design is broken . oh and even that doesn't work vs 1 target :D .

[@eternalevil3897]

@Cthulhu Nope .. these days even unholy don't have enough pressure in pvp .. actually it's kinda even weaker than the weak frost. but if unholy retain even 50% of the PvE damage in PvP that would be another story.

[@eternalevil3897]

@Cthulhu As I told you .. Frost is only decent in blind, dragon & chill streak combo .. but nowadays most teams knows how to easily counter it .. and even if success most of the pressure comes from the team mate not the DK himself. that's why frost DK is so hard to play in 2v2 because how hard it is to secure a kill and do pressure . DKs overall now lacks pressure damage, defense and depend almost all the time on team mates to both survive and win .

[@WaxedWolf]

My guild is only a heroic guild, and has been struggling for members with the SL burnout. We got walled at a few bosses from people not doing mechanics, dropped to a 2-2-6 just to get curve. We managed a cleaner clear with 4 melee in a 2-2-6 than we have all expansion. I think you have a point at ranged being "easier" but unless you are raiding mythic I think you can get by with whatever comp you want. However space issues for melee is less of an issue with only 10 people in the raid XD

[@Eyevy9]

Any one know What addon that is which shows the dungeon timer and quest log in the box

[@JirxOnGames]

Kaliel's Quest Tracker

[@Eyevy9]

@@JirxOnGames thank you 😊

[@reallyrealify]

Id like to see a sanguine depths pug 16 for the next TDP, thx.

[@H2ydrogen]

pugging on my main - 223, consistently doing 14/15/16 with pugs - no problems. As soon as you do under 14, literally a 13, and no tanks sign up, no healers, takes 4 ever to get a group going and once it does, it's hell on earth. No one wants to do more m+ than necessary these days since it'll screw your vault over. Pugging is dogshit in SL unless you stay ahead of the curve..................

[@ganstaeddie7]

Very accurate.

[@Mygdam]

Ive been just about at the peak of the curve since m+ started and I can confirm this. Just today I had a 1k rio 215 dps in my +14 DOS, who didnt know the mechanics on manastorms (crystal soak) or dealer xyexa (jump with bomb). Ofc he also died during portal at last boss and our healer+tank didnt kill their guy either. If you dont want to contribute to the "elitism" of getting ppl with high rio, because you actually want to time your key, you roll the dice with every person you invite and it only takes that one guy to screw it all up.

[@ganstaeddie7]

@@Mygdam You're kind of missing the point of what hes saying and just saying your own thing. Hes saying its hell to run lower keys but 14/15/16 relatively easy to pug because the whole point is so long as you're with the curve or ahead of it you stay with the "good" players. mentioning IO and who you're going to invite is a different topic.

[@maddy02_]

@@ganstaeddie7 not really, they just explained their point of view to Lowkey pugging.

[@ganstaeddie7]

@@maddy02_ You're kind of missing the point also.

[@dad5004]

this is the first xpac ive done since WoD that isnt arcane and just started back 1 week ago after 2 year break, as outlaw rogue and it has sort of re ignited my love for wow. Was first class I ever played back in 2009 but only levelled to 28 lol.

[@phataken4372]

11-13 pugs have been an absolute fucking nightmare, when i actually get in one.

[@rhade2k]

I stuck with nightfey shadowpriest from the start of the expansion, and now I feel a little vindicated. Still not allowed to pvp though

[@kyleadams4096]

Same, I was part of that small percent that went and got memes for it. I was using the talbadar’s legendary when people were saying it was bad too, and then turned out sums were wrong :)

[@Mygdam]

Preach rocking up with two buds to a +15 and calling it a pug. 7-14 are harder than 15, change my mind.

[@Orcawhale1]

There's nothing to change, because your correct.

[@manorid]

they are certainly harder for people that do them than +16s are for these 3

[@mejeg]

Dunno if it's still the same but when SW:TOR first came out almost no teams would take melee to heroics or raids because most boses has an instant no cast bar AOE, we no voice or sound warning that would kill melee dps most of the time unless you got lucky or were over-geared. It got to the point where it you were melee dps you had 3 options, roll to tank, make a new ranged class or accept you were not going to do PVE content and maybe PVP. Wow is rough for melee compared to ranged imo, but not impossible.

[@cattysplat]

Melee used to be resident sleeper 0 mechanics a few expansions ago, at least they are trying.

[@derekbush6239]

Seeing Storming from a ranged perspective makes me even more irritated at how melee-unfriendly the game has become.

[@mothafuckajones]

Why do people always moan about the game?

[@Yaffo43]

As a rogue progressing heroic with my guild and being top melee DPS was I naive to how good rogue feels? Because hearing they aren’t in raids makes me question

[@Emilia-uq3ph]

In a hc raiding guild it really doesnt matter. I wouldnt worry about it.

[@jaklawrence4301]

I've been maining MM hunter this tier, the biggest Fomo I've had is Affliction lock or Outlaw Rogue... but tbh I dunno if I'd be any good as a lock and I don't really wanna be melee again for obvious reasons well discussed in this vid :P

[@WolfeRavenwood]

For a moment when it startet i thought man... this hair transplant thingy is REALLY working nicely. Then i took my glasses on. Give it 5 years more and Finn and Mike will be look completly identical :x

[@SignalWarden]

I mained a rogue through all of Legion and 90% of BfA. I rerolled Hunter this time (I had no idea EVERYONE else was going to do the same) with my lock as an alt. I've been feeling the pull to jump back on a rogue lately. I don't think it's a want to go back to melee though because I'm also toying with a mage. I haven't capped any of my rogues yet though but I may end up falling to it just because of how comfortable rogue is, especially in comparison to the other melee (barring maybe pali?).

[@Boxedwaffle]

yeah, please make SN baseline and give us two charges of mind blast. thanks.

[@MarekPar743]

I would love Fingle to end up in Security. I want TDP with Preach, Fin and Pilav lol

[@skylarius3757]

If that were to happen.. .Adjust your volume settings xD

[@JohnnyMaverik]

I feel like such a big thing has been made of how unfriendly CN is for melee that next raid tier is just going to be, somehow, ranged hell, and every single fight will consist of having to stack in melee range and having to make lots of little micro movements, at unpredictable but fairly frequent intervals, to ensure you can't channel jack.

[@M0du5Pwn3n5]

Most raids are unfriendly for melee, and it's never been a thing before that it means the next tier will be "unfriendly to ranged". It's pretty hard to even make something "unfriendly to ranged". Hunters don't care about having to move, mages can just blink, etc.

[@Diavolo222]

Where are you getting these dumb thoughts ? I'm hoping it's not your brain. All raids, since the dawn of time have been melee unfriendly and it's only gotten worse in the last expansions. And after every raid there's this discussion and it never changes. There might be a boss or two ( maybe ) that favor melee, but it's never that. It's always just "It's good for melee but not bad for range" and never the other way around.

[@EndOfExistence1337]

It's not really that the raid is melee unfriendly, that's always the case. But m+ is also extremely melee unfriendly. I've never enjoyed ranged classes much but even I'm considering switching to ranged now... Doing m+ as a fire mage and slapping from range while not having to deal with 80% of the bs I have to deal with as feral has been nice. Despite feral being my favourite spec by far to actually play.

[@JohnnyMaverik]

@@Diavolo222 It was a comment made in jest. Chill.

[@kristianflamsted9038]

Just a tip for you.. When you lust on that pack in the beginning.. You're supposed to lust on the 2nd boss as well and then use lust when it gets up during the last boss.. :)

[@GHIBaal]

18:55 JEEZ That Grafic difference between Finns and Preachs screen.

[@cattysplat]

Eyebleach high gamma for visibility vs the sexy dark contrast you can't see half the muddy AOEs.

[@drewcrabtree7593]

I love melee I’m pretty much every game that has it I have discovered. Just feels meaty. Also Ret Pally for life!

[@maddy02_]

Ret paladin oof, explains a lot already lmao

[@alexpaul4144]

This is one of the best recent tdps lol

[@delete_gaming]

So I was a DH main, was asked to go DK with hopes frost would be viable but ended up Unholy, my alts are my DH, MM, and Paladin. I play them all but the only one that raids is the DK. I just want to be Frost tbh, I find it fun, but as long as I'm doing the content I want to chase I'm happy. Unfortunately our mythic raid team fell apart right along with your guild.

[@ganstaeddie7]

tbh Don't let noobs dictate what you play, frost is just as good and in some cases better than unholy. limit maximum said it falls off in execute phase but as someone whos been in the top 1% for dk as both specs for years i highly doubt id ever lose to an unholy if we're in equal gear and uptime (because of skill).

[@PeterFilbert]

Preach, is that a Eaglefang karate shirt :P?

[@menarg1549]

I think shadow priest would massively benefit from losing vampiric touch then you could put all that stuff into shadow word pain and the mind blast thing would be worth, with searing nightmare

[@kyrn3901]

This doesn't make any sense at all. The whole SP community wants searing nightmare gone even though it's strong, the point being that it's unfun to use, even though it's subjective, this is the general consensus between the majority of spriests. Also losing vamp touch would make us do less damage aswell through all spells including SN due to weaving (7-10% dps loss). A new build is on the rise with pshyic link and spread cleaving with mindblasts, but I hope they buff psychic link a bit more to make it more competitive and we'll have multiple builds we can use. DPS wise we're not in a bad spot in either raids or dungeons tbh.

[@menarg1549]

@@kyrn3901 if you put the damage and function of vampiric plague into shadow word pain, then put a cd on searing nightmare, would that be better?

[@kyrn3901]

@@menarg1549 I assume you mean Vamp Touch, but no, not really, it would basically break how shadowpriests work and always have worked. Because we'll lose percentage based damage due to weaving (10-15% extra damage per DIFFERENT dot on the target). We do more damage the more 'different' dots we have on the target. Vamp touch being a different dot we lose. Then SN being on cd means we lose even more damage, meaning shadow word: pain will need to do, what? INSANE anounts of damage on a single dot to make up for that. Then also we lose the misery talent, since that talent has no use w/o vampiric touch. Also SN will do less damage due to losing vamp touch. Vamp touch is a dot we always have had and it's fine, ppl just wanna use misery talent instead of SN because it makes multidotting a lot more fun to manage. Putting SN as a baseline spell instead of a talent, would also be good, since we can then utilize Misery AND SN. We are litterally the only spec that has AoE gated behind a talent, which is just stupid game design. If we dont pick SN, we basically don't have AoE damage, which is dumb.

[@AniFever]

Has 3 people he knows in the group, makes a comment about PUGs. Mate this is no (dead) PUG.

[@maddy02_]

Hes done many before. Go watch some other TDPs.

[@jeraldschoudt2155]

uhh. Didn't see your night fae click the acorn at the bottom of the waterfall. That's what makes you rez there. Isn't fin fae?

[@maddy02_]

Yeah but the druid and preach too.

[@guyston684]

I think some melee specs will never be viable unless they get a utility buff like Feral, Ret pally (Currently healers do their job), WW monk (This is actually barely viable even with good utility), Enchance shammy, rogues. I believe the advantages of being ranged are extreme and when a ranged class provides great utility aswell it kinda makes melee a meme, unless your that AMZ bossman

[@jenat82]

get maze helper. normally a healer job. but the addons works with others with it. Ranged can help. Having the healer run to all of them takes longer.

[@andrewowens1043]

welcome to the right side, Fin.

[@stevefyfe1018]

I’d like to introduce you to SEVERAL dead pugs

[@xmendesx]

Was ranged most of my wow life, apart from a small stint as enhancement shaman in cata. Tried the DK this xpac and been liking it so far, but kinda miss the ranged life

[@Wyrsa]

Everyone in my guild that wanted to play melee as a main was asked to keep a ranged alt on hand

[@boz123lol]

as a rogue, lemme tell ya - life sucks right now

[@knifetoucher]

Didn't Fin say in beta that WW is his favorite spec to play but he won't play it because it wasn't good... Well, they're good now, why not play it?

[@EndOfExistence1337]

Melee in general isn't very fun in SL. I guess. Never liked ranged and even I'm considering swapping to ranged now.

[@MakoTrevelyan]

I've played sin rogue for many years. Its my favorite spec in the game, however I'm playing outlaw right now... still fun tho. Got keystone master fairly quick, even through mainly pugs. Hoping sin rogue starts getting much better with scaling.

[@kail_6019]

Covenants spells for rogue is joke so boring lazy job

[@Deldelar]

Great timing, started levelling a rogue for the first time a few days ago and really enjoying it so far!

[@kail_6019]

Rogue thing is covenants is realy boring compare to other classes and outlaw is boring for me i play it in BFA in SL Outlaw is Outlaw i dont want play it anymore

[@burkaanc]

Started as melee, rolled to tank, because we needed one, then rerolled from ppala to vdh, because ppala felt like wet towel in terms of defense, then main alted melee, but blizzard really hate melee, about every m+ week has some pita mechanic for melee

[@jamesbowles6601]

Shadow isn't the massive multi cleave spec anymore that is boomy

[@GrandAdmThrawn]

Stay as a hunter, stay as a ranged imho.

[@kail_6019]

Yes.. If you play Warrior you get aggro in thrash 😂

[@GrandAdmThrawn]

@@kail_6019 and no FD

[@kail_6019]

@@GrandAdmThrawn Sadly i like only Hunter in ranged dps side and i very like Warrior Dk still i play it but Hunter fells beter in ranged

[@GrandAdmThrawn]

@@kail_6019 there are only 2 hunter specs I know *ekhem* MM and BM

[@kail_6019]

@@GrandAdmThrawn I do world quest Thorghast on Survi 😎

[@crbrearley]

I found finn's perspective very interesting; I've been a rogue since Ice crown days and I played a warlock... I just move way, way, WAAAAY too much. I could learn how to quiet my movement (well, I think I could) but my raid could use a warrior and that feels so much more natural.

[@GHIBaal]

GoL Lock we cool😎

[@joshferris171]

Capped my monk last week. Starting pugging keys. You wouldn't believe the tanks I had. +2 through +8, actually had no problems. Then I had a dh tank, that didn't press soul cleave. Died 2 seconds into every pull. Lost my 10 key. Had a druid tank in full pvp gear that kept breaking cc on inspiring. Lost my 9 key. Got a decent tank for my +8, then for my second +10, had a pally tank that kept bopping himself at the start of every pull. Missed the timer there, but at least we finished it for vault. To be fair, I've been in protest of raider.io, so I wasn't filtering my choices too hard. After this experience, I will be getting raider.io....

[@joeym3147]

Yeah its not elitism haha its a value of your time

[@Diavolo222]

if you've ever been protesting r.io you are a dumb human being to begin with and I wouldnt want you in my 15+ keys to begin with. Stay bad grey log nerd.

[@joeym3147]

@@Diavolo222 lol he said he's getting it fucking ree boi

[@shehran6936]

Anyone notice how Preach and Fin have different graphics. I don't know why but I think Fin's cloudier look actually looks smoother

[@DDRedd56]

Any one else constantly moving the volume up and down avoiding Preach´s volatile pitch?

[@bradmills713]

I'm in the same boat as Fin. Except opposite. Wanted something different. I went ranged instead of melee and have played melee for 15 years. It's ok. But I'm simply better at melee. And it's more fun. Back to my Warr.

[@loudbeardguythethird1384]

Where is my amazing thumbnail Chris? Its the only reason I click on these.

[@Smertik2010]

as dk ~223 main I'm used ~218 SP on sludgefist.

[@madzzzey]

3mains is a fulltime job.

[@happyducky5883]

It feels like mechanics that punish ranged just feel like part of the fight and what you'd be doing anyway, while mechanics that punish melee are frustrating tedious side effects of how the fight would otherwise be going.

[@Nagorgam]

Spriest here; You can actually run FoTM,Misery,Psychic Link for select dungeons like SoA, ToP, and Mists. You need Talbadar’s legendary to make it work, but the build is super fun and brings multi doting back into play. Spamming SN every dungeon was getting old so I’m glad to have the variable builds.

[@Arntor-kf9hi]

Would love to see a series of videos from you where you detail mechanics and strats for +10 M+ as a commentary to a video of the run.

[@SpielplatzATTAK]

I 2nd this

[@bratwurst7308]

Please dont. He does not even know half the mechanics, that are relevant in m+. He Just does damage and therefore times Keys in 15/16. Preach ist just a raider and not a m+ player.

[@Daniel-sc3yr]

started this xpac with a unholy dk, already rerolled to boomkin. 0 invites to m+ as melee

[@SolarflareGaming629]

what is TDP?

[@LordHazanko666]

one of these days ill try a ranged char but most likely not

[@Swordart2022]

Try doing below 10 keys for these special runs some may talk about who knows!

[@Razoreye175]

i think you're definitely either a ranged or a melee person. I can play a windwalker monk ok-ish, but I can pick up any ranged much easier

[@imadeyoureadthis1]

That's because range is easier. It's the same for everyone. Range easy, melee hard because to strike an enemy you need to move to their face.

[@majormom357]

Notification gang here

[@mysteryman2961]

Bell gang unite

[@Tephr1te]

- plays shadowpriest - doesnt mass dispell the first pack

[@OrcinusDrake]

pack dies quicker if you don't as they apply their curse to enemies too

[@Tephr1te]

@@OrcinusDrake huh, i didnt know that part

[@Crotes1990]

I dont understand why Mike isn't leaning towards mage, it ticks all the boxes.

[@Swordart2022]

They realized having million alts if you do not want /feel to play just for having them for sake of it is not right move to keep guild together . That is progress xD

[@TheAssirra]

220 gear and they wonder why a 16 is easy? Come on now Preach...

[@cameronpack3965]

Where is Finn :,(

[@Boxedwaffle]

currently, shadow is basically diet aff lock :/