Drama Time - Effort Points?

[@Duappe]

Our guild ran with EPGP in Legion, thought it worked really well :) Main difference however were that our EP were only made through raid attendance, from hours or from kills. How it worked: You get EP from raiding hours, being on time, having flasks and food, and killing bosses (think there were a first-kill bonus as well). The EP would additionally deteriorate over time (10% per week i think), meaning you couldn't really hoard it either. You get GP when you get loot pieces, different loot pieces cost different amounts, weapons and trinkets being more expensive than cloaks or boots for example. Your final quota were just EP/GP, and the one with the highest quota won the item, adding to their GP and bringing their quota down. Quite an elegant system imo, rewarding people who put in efforts, raiding, killing bosses and so on, and being fair that even new players can get some gear, since if they haven't got any loot yet they have a really good quota even after just some raids. The key difference between our old system and the one in the story is that you couldn't just buy more EP with gold :P

[@soulaires4943]

Haha I remember meeting you at the 2nd level of the Hilton on Thursday and you had a leaky beer. I still shook that beer covered hand because you are amazing and doing great work. Keep it all up

[@booradley6832]

I think its really amusing how the first guy thinks that we A) believe even 1/3rd of the things he says and B) care about him at all. Nobodys out to get you dude, your exploits are at the best something most people grow out of by the time they get their learners permit.

[@punker2534]

Shout out to Lore and Bay for getting that interview done.. Obviously had a rough year with the ban but its good people still appreciate you want the best for the game even if that means angering people.

[@ronanfloyd7359]

good stuff Preach. love drama time

[@Voojitsu]

I'm surprised that Preach didn't know about EPGP o_O

[@brendanknight8092]

Hi Ballers and a breakfast to you all!! Thank you You tube subtitles

[@chillspencer.4637]

I watch Drama Time with KZbin Premium, I ain't no free loader.

[@gingy9788]

“Donate the gift of life to my tissue box” funny but gross I can agree on that

[@MerkieMerk]

Super cool to meet you at blizzcon! Keep up the good work!

[@yrtomin]

That first story definitively seems true, I mean who would just go on the internet and tell lies?

[@LukesGamerRoom]

yes I have heard of EGDkp. It is basically a dkp system that takes out the problem of dkp hording. and then puts in a priority system based on "guild effort points' but those are only used as tie breakers from what I've herad. Frankly I thnk the whole system sounds horrible but I have friends that say it is great. so the system assigns T2 helm lets say 15 dkp. so all who roll on the item if they win spend only 15 dkp on the item and then the tie breaker is decided by the effort points. Bear in mind im spitballing here form what I've heard but yea no thank you. I'll take loot council even if my dumbass guild just voted not to give me perdtition blade over an overgeared and underperforming fury prot tank

[@HarithBK]

you don't know about EPGP system preach? it is pretty much a DKP but insted of bidding on items and saving DKP for the true wanted items so you have gear wasted since people refuse to spend even a single DKP on an item they need all items have a gear point value that is added. you get EP or effort point by killing bosses or otherwise helping out the raid. now when i used the system we did not let people get EP by giving gold or herbs etc. if you were raiding you were bring your flasks and pots. however you could get EP by say running raiders threw dungeons where you needed zero loot but they needed something. so your take your effort points divide it by your gear points to get your prio points if you are the highest you get the gear. and the end of each week or raiding there is a 10% decay on both your EP and GP. this dose two things first it gives a sort of soft cap on how much EP you can have and secound effect is that you want as much gear as you can as quickly as you can since it means you have more GP to decay quicker. overall EPGP is better than DKP when you don't use it for things like getting gold out of people and don't use it for everything. the norm in classic was that raider leaders got 10-15% extra EP for each boss kill since they were the once leading.

[@ich3730]

OR, you just talk about the loot like normal people? :D

[@pixi301]

11:18 had me wheezing

[@shimashima5332]

Maplestory does get a lot of real cash. I know that an item can be sold for $500 or more.

[@AndrewO83]

Exactly. We're not freeloaders!

[@Kemachris]

Mike: "Just go farm the eye of shadow" Me: took 10 hrs of nonstop grind. "Should have just bought it"

[@atomsk6316]

Epgp is the best loot system. Penalizes horders, rewards ppl who show up consistently.

[@aidanhill5586]

1:05 - who else checked?

[@Ghostly-00]

Awwww that last story was so cute. Cute noob :3

[@Mormo01]

love you preach

[@geneabrego9759]

creepy. i'm literally leveling in Desolace and listening to this in the background as i'm playing and a Desolace story comes up.

[@joeym3147]

You're inside a simulation... of a simulation inside a taco that in a KFC that in a mall that's inside your brain! Inside... another simulation!!

[@MrPyrhus]

"Shit, did I write this?" LMAO

[@BeepBoop335]

I love that preach saw someone type "BR player" and thought "battle royal player...that must be a fortnite fun!". Aging yourself my man. Lol, seriously though loved this vid - like every drama friday.

[@HotlistJimmy]

I binged your old PG shows preach and I tell you what mate, you were golden together and I really do miss them. I know he's doing his own thing now but surely you're still friends yeah? Have him round for a few beers, a transmog comp and a couple of drama stories. If it's not like that and you're just both doing your own thing in life now I totally get it, it happens to everyone I just think your bromance rivalled the scrubs turk and JD bromance y'no ?

[@MEDOBOLT]

Preach would you mind installing the BTTV emotes addon so we can see them in chat 🧡

[@tjbrody]

We missed you Preach

[@joshd3043]

Yikes that intro didn't age well

[@Nihoolious]

What happened?

[@joshd3043]

@@Nihoolious all that method hype

[@j0hncramer]

too many healers on my server too

[@jazzdomi4364]

Mr. PREEch...Today: KZbin Plebs and hot Sisters

[@Veolynn13]

"Hot Sister" I see the author of the first story is from Alabama.

[@reeces5196]

I call bs on that last story. No way he could have flown back to org from shadowsprey without the proper connecting fps (one would have been crossroads and the other definitely would have been thunder bluff which he never made it to) especially with the path he took to get to desolace.

[@richarddevenezia8186]

Props Kitboga!

[@dvolsung1527]

Too many healers on my server too. We have a shortage of DPS and tanks. Anyone looking for a tank in chat just gets answered by some douche wanting gold. You literally have to put in chat that you will not pay for a tank and only want tanks that need the dungeon for quests or gear lol. This is why I rerolled a tank and have been painfully learning the ropes, so that I can literally be the knight in shining armor for groups needing tanks *a noble cause* 😆

[@Catjamfan]

Gaia has been around since 2000-2003. Its a really nice site for actual RP (not erp even if this exists EVERYWHERE cause humans are disgusting.) Its usually used for community building. Art sharing. They even have their own MMO esque thing. The dressup doll thing is a creative outlet and helps inspire a lot of people. I personally started my serious art journey due to Gaia, and its quite sad to hear people bash it randomly as if its any worse than anything you yourself are involved in. Anything humans touch has a bad side, actually majority of everything is bad.... But Gaia aint worse than GTA, WoW, ESO, FF, tony hawk proskater, Witcher or ANY other place where you have a character and get it as a hobby... Its just sad how the bashing is normal nowadays. Its no longer just Nerds with hobbies who enjoy their stuff - its hatewars.

[@NightstingVideos]

Omg yes!!!!

[@Alottadot]

pumped

[@beedubz1322]

So glad you got to do the interview with Ion. If it would have been some of the other KZbinrs, it could have ended up an ass kissing party.

[@allonszee408]

Woohoo

[@Autipsy]

“Weeb Fiesta”

[@cr-nd8qh]

That first guy is absolute dung

[@gentrelane]

gaia oh lord

[@drakedbz]

Preach, I'm 25 and I played maplestory 2. It's not just a kids game :P

[@basvanderwerff2725]

they totally using the EPGP system wrong

[@philliphopkins6268]

I had to skip over the initial story lol.

[@s1os2s3]

As someone once said : When a system is overcomplicated then it is made for you to lose and someone to always win.

[@Nyarlarthotep9]

For those of who you who don't watch on twitch. These stories are why you really should consider it.

[@dawfydd]

twitch is annoying tends to lag my computer more than youtube does, plus.. i live in middle earth (New Zealand) so timezones don't match well...

[@nhagan001]

Wish I could manage getting up at 3am for his live streams.

[@Nyarlarthotep9]

I watch on my PS4 don't tend to have any issues. I'm in Alaska so the timezones can be rough. But I turn up for drama every time I can.

[@epeedor4087]

That bit where he started reading about CEPGP hurt me a little, my classic guild uses it lol

[@Devydoesgaming]

Boomer Boi

[@DJBlackNGold]

First guy. Bidoof's law. God that hurt to listen to. Also r/thathappened

[@brianarnold1170]

These lucky Uk MFers free doctor in the USA that’s at least 100$

[@greatiusiterfector4519]

It is not free, it is part of taxes.

[@brianarnold1170]

Ya know something crazy.... Americans pay taxes too.

[@greatiusiterfector4519]

@@brianarnold1170 health thing is on top of taxes, I believe health thing is like 10% of your sallary. I mean I'd prefer american system over what we have in most of EU countries.

[@brianarnold1170]

Greatius Iterfector this wrong but if you’d link where you got that info I can help you find good sources of info

[@greatiusiterfector4519]

@@brianarnold1170 i just remember that from economics class where we were calculating how much each employee costs the company.

[@timeless_1337]

The only people who think Pineapple belongs on pizza are people who don't know what good pizza is. I used to hate these people, now I just pity them.

[@maddy02_]

nah youre just stupid

[@Niflaver]

The only people who think Pineapple doesn't belongs on pizza are people who don't know what good pizza is. I used to hate these people, now I just pity them.

[@greatiusiterfector4519]

You do fucking realise that diff ppl like diff tastes. Ppl in eu don't like super cheesy greasy pizzas that american love, does that make americans stupid, or does it make europeans stupid, or what explain to me how does ur autistic logic apply to this.

[@bluntslayer]

Typical ragnaros player hahahahaha

[@Lastrankedhero]

first.