Predator 212 Go Kart CVT - Torque Converter Belt Breaking Fix (Neighbor Freak Out)

[@davek2690]

I love it "if you don't want to see them don't look" i just told my neighbor the same exact thing cause she's constantly calling the cops on me saying she doesn't like that i park my go kart in my yard (the only place i can put it) so i finally got sick of trying to be nice n told her how it is.

[@MHolt13]

Love the video, and a huge thank you for being a classy guy and keeping a family friendly channel!

[@zachm7966]

Merica Dammit!!!!!!!!!!!! I bought a Kandi kart 125cc for my kids several years ago, its been sitting for a year, due to junk Chinese motor/ electric problems.I decided to put a predator 212 with Torque converter in it after watching a ton of Redbeards videos.Just wanted to say thanks too RB for making such quality videos, you da man boss.

[@Gpabatman]

Thanks for being respectful and understanding your neighbor.

[@rehcapsma]

Thanks Red Beard and Go power sports! Parts are on the way to fix the quad!

[@BruceLyeg]

I can sort of understand her point of view about the noise and occasionally riding through her property, but having said that... I don't know you and have only recently started watching your videos, but you seem extremely reasonable and polite. You're doing your best to be a good neighbor while still enjoying your own property as you see fit. As you said, you aren't tearing around at all hours of the night or flying through her yard repeatedly. There's not much more you could say other than what you told her.

[@BobbyBowker]

Your videos give me the confidence to work on my go cart, I end up amazing myself. Thank you for teaching us, class is in session.

[@eli444c]

I've been trying to get my old manco dingo to work again this was very helpful

[@BobbyBowker]

I’m working on my dingo too. The two back wheels spin when I have it up on blocks but when I set it down it doesn’t go anywhere. And then my chain snapped. So I ordered a new chain and now I’m trying to figure out the converter. I had one back in 1984 and now my kid has one I love the dingo. I used to do 180 power slides in the middle of the street on mine.

[@kirklarson9596]

I don't think you were out of line, she could have been more diplomatic about it, keep up the great videos great job !!!!

[@RedBeardsGarage]

Thanks man.

[@thatbuelldude189]

Red Beard's Garage how long has the belt lasted after the mods

[@jdawgg3975]

I wish you were my neighbor....

[@RedBeardsGarage]

+justin griffith I wish you were too.

[@shaunhissong1634]

Same wish he was my neighbor to i got 9 kids and they'd be happy as hell

[@StrongArm0351]

​@@RedBeardsGaragesame lol I just got given 3 karts by my FIL and I have no idea how to fix them

[@spencerjohnson1499]

I watch your channel because it is family friendly and we appreciate that! Where did yall move? Better neighbors? I hope so

[@joedmac78]

We need more murican's like you and me! Do what you want on your property!

[@bkdexter79]

Great video. Sorry about the neighbor issue but we probably don't need to see that again. Good luck in the future.

[@T25de]

been having similar issues with my Tc too. had a crack in the clutch hub. gopower sent me a new one pretty damn fast. I was able to score a Gates belt too. much more durable.

[@bryanllewellyn2215]

Do you have a part number for the gates belt?

[@T25de]

@@bryanllewellyn2215 I don’t any more sorry. Kart is stored in the shed of one of the builders homes. We just matched it up in person at the parts store

[@michelevitarelli]

thank you so much for making this great teardown video. It is greatly appreciated.

[@gusgus34]

thanks for the video enjoyed it was wondering if you can let us know what the other two holes in the clutch are for and lastly you handle the old lady very well

[@RedBeardsGarage]

Thanks for watching! Im not sure on the other holes as I have never messed with them, but i will find out.

[@mitchellsmith4246]

Great video! I have a couple question. I just got what appears to be the exact same go kart as the one in this video. I got it used and have no idea what the part # is for the torque converter. The drive pulley is missing the brass bushing sleeve as well. What is the part #/ model # for the torque converter you have there? And can you recommend a website where I might can order a replacement brass bushing? Thank for making such great videos! They're a lot of help!

[@TonyCampCamppartyof4]

Right when you left your property , I was like "he's going straight to a Dollar General" haha.

[@louielou9322]

Hey I bought a go kart with a 212cc predator and it kept breaking belts. So I replaced the rear pully cause it had alot of dents and looked bent and it ran fine all day. Then my son got on it by himself the next day and the belt broke again. What would be causing this ?

[@819productionz4life]

Im new to your page and I have to say I really like your videos and how you carry yourself keep up the good work.

[@anmichall]

It sure sounded like she tore you a new one. Thank you Nick

[@davidcampbell4861]

What is the belt part number that your putting back on?

[@TheAdventuresofWally]

the lady is prob but hurt because Killiary lost. keep the great vids comin. i especially liked your quick ride to the store through the woods. guess that was her yard. oops. she will get over it. 👍

[@RedBeardsGarage]

Yeah it just surprised me because we never had any problems before. Thanks for watching man and we got some more good ones coming this week.

[@YourTextRocks]

i lost the drive belt on my go kart its a 212cc predator do you know what size i should get?

[@mikepeace3869]

Assuming that when you put the spring in a different hole, it'll adjust the torque. But what is the actual specifics, like 1 is lower torque and 3 being the highest.

[@RedBeardsGarage]

Ill make a video in a week or so and we will try it and see the differences.

[@adamlemaster6539]

I need ur help sir got a chinesse buggy w predator 212 just put the same stock set up u just did on this stock springs mine goes nowhere just wants to smoke belts

[@manvstaco]

Do you not have to use a reverse wound spring for outboard driven pulley?

[@tuwilson3788]

I have a 212cc on a Murray with a 30 series tourqe converter everything is Lined. up belt is snug but I keep burning belts

[@RockieRoadz]

Tu Wilson Belts typically burn out if they're generic belt or wrong fit. Make sure you have some give on the belt, not super snug. You might have too small belt, and of course set the V side on correctly (flat side facing tq converter). Using the GoPowerSports.com 725 belt should permit good usage on your typical Tav2 30 series tq converter and last a long time.

[@tuwilson3788]

@@RockieRoadz ok thank you I will try it

[@migratorygame7400]

I just got a cart. the driven pulley keeps jumping the buttons. the belt is lose. is the belt the problem? I flipped the buttons with the ones on the other side. there's 6. anyways I thought that fixed it but it jumped over them also?

[@bobby3h]

What are the other 3 Holes for? I heard they are different RPM engaugement. What would be best for top speed over torque? I have had problems with belts getting eaten by the rivet heads. A stronger green spring will keep the pulley sheeve from opening too far and allowing the belt to reach the rivets. I just need to know the different RPM set up's.

[@davidmiller571]

This is America! Good job dude.

[@aaroncody530]

I have the same belt snapping issue on my 30 series cvt. Did this upgrade for it for you?

[@jcg1237]

What size belt did you used

[@Ajaxaxxess]

You should clean both clutches every 5-8 hours depending on conditions. Great how to video buddy!

[@bradley1995]

I haven't cleaned mine in hundreds of hours, might be time for me lol

[@manoffaith2501]

You are a good man Red Beard.

[@jslade60]

We put a 301 predator engine on a hammerhead go kart it's eating these belts up after about 2 mi. Everything is in line everything is right we even ordered the heavy duty belts we're at our wit's end. Do you think this spring is what's causing it?

[@jackdalman6971]

need advice, put a series 30 converter on a mb200 works perfect on a milk crate, it won't come off low range when riding?

[@moustachemike7128]

17:09 you hit the nail on the head" THIS IS AMERICA" or it used to be// lol great instructional video's

[@ernieeat]

Sorry to hear about your neighbors, would you happen to have more videos of this Carter go kart?

[@bradley1995]

My driven pulley sounds like somethings rattling on it. Just started after my last chain started taking a shit. I'm not sure if an old chain could cause that much rattle even tho it's tight. Would new sprokets and chain fix it you think or would the back driven be taking a shit?

[@austinmoore9712]

Hey any advice you could give me on why my belt is breaking/burring off. I have the same engine but i dont know what belt to buy can you help me.

[@RedBeardsGarage]

make sure the two pulleys are aligned with the engine off. Also what is your tire size and gearing?

[@stevensmalley6766]

@@RedBeardsGarage having issues with my belt as well. But my pullys don't seem to line up. How do I adjust them to line them up correctly?

[@matts6869]

On that rear pulley, you referred to the little chamfered pieces as pucks. One of those is broke on mine. Do I just need to buy a whole new pulley assembly?

[@lakelife4106]

Que stion, I just installed a torque converter on my colman mini bike and the drive pulley is getting very hot is this normal? The 2 pulleys are lined up as they should be

[@ethanbarnes7013]

My question is i know you said the center hole was the stock configuration. what are the other two holes for just wondering thanks. I love your videos their very helpful.

[@ryan9352]

Is it better for the belt to be tight or with a little slack when fitting onto the torque converter?

[@RedBeardsGarage]

I like it snug so it wont take off when idling but not to loose so it hits hard when taking off

[@donkeyhatwaterfowl]

Which spring will give most speed

[@efrainordonez1326]

Hows it going I just installed a torque converter. I struggled to to on the belt and its really tight can that cause issues

[@stevie9361]

I find it's easier to hold cap an twist "puck "clockwise 180 degrees. So if small spring hole at top put it on bottom when done. Now keep weight on it an put snap ring back

[@jimseyuin9746]

So I have encountered a problem as well with a tav 2 and a 212 predator shredding belts. I get around 6 miles of ride time before the belt starts smoking and breaks. The motor is stock, the setup is on a Baja Warrior. Did the green spring fix the problem?

[@mag2395]

Do you just leave that cover off of the clutches that the chinese kit comes with? Have any issues? Also how is the long term update on burning up belts, did the spring kit help?

[@maxxlr8tion578]

Any thoughts about one of these cvt belt setups on a Kohler 11hp... I did it and it eats belts like crazy if you are hard on it, but it'll do about 40 mph... and donuts(for a few seconds anyway).

[@TexasSpeedManiac]

when you accelerate is it suppose to take off smooth like a clutch or is it suppose to grab and hit hard. Also the go kart keeps tearing up belts with in just a few minutes of riding. The go kart is an old manco dingo that I took the Briggs and Stratton off and put a 212 slightly modded predator on.

[@RedBeardsGarage]

I have had some take off kinda smooth and some take of hard. Check your belt alignment and also how smooth the surface of the pulleys are.

[@mommomanna]

There's a tube that goes into the gas tank by the gas cap.i need to replace it.snapped it off.for a predator 212cc.i can't find any diagrams telling me what it's called so I can order new one.

[@nicb3782]

Hey brother, love ur videos... quick question... which belt or what is ur go-to belt size/manufacture (where do u buy ur belts from?) For the 30 series asymmetrical? Also, either for the 30 series asymmetrical w/6inch or 7inch driven pulley. Is there a difference or specific belt to use when going from 6-inch driven pulley (that's what my amazon CVT came with) to a 7-inch driven pulley? Which from my understanding is the original/correct/proper pulley size... so what belt would u use, and where do I get it?. Ps I'm driving a homemade 26" Electra bicycle converted to a motorcycle with pedals via a predator 212cc (45mph)

[@tjcarter2613]

What's the belt part number?

[@saabkingentertainments.k.e]

What did that green spring do

[@ronwilliams2081]

The front assembly of my torq a verter is getting red hot/ What would cause that?????

[@REALJFLY]

I have some graphite lube but it's like a powder. Would this work

[@bgkclassic]

In the 4 years since this video, is this still what you would recommend? My tc worked great until i added a stage 1 with bigger jet. Now i can melt a new belt within the hour. My alignment is spot on. Can springs alone save my belts and let me keep my mods? Is there a difference between the 203589/5959 and the 203589A belts? If i go all out for a mile i can stop and see the belt smoke. Bought another tc and the same happens. Very fun and rippy while it lasts but it doesn't. A stage 1 predator 212 is not too much hp for these clutches right?

[@bigheadhammer5886]

Hey did you ever figure out the problem, I'm having the same issue

[@jpothier4894]

BLACKHORSE BELTS the best

[@tateross3579]

What color do the driver pulley have to be?

[@jorgegallegos5247]

My go kart belt keeps breaking not ripping the teeth fly off and I replaced it and it drives on its own now how do I fix this it’s a 212cc engine

[@archery30x]

What do you use for belts like what size

[@thejohn6614]

i just installed a series 30 clutch and torque converter on my little cousins kart. The belt mostly just slips on the clutch. It won't do more than a few mph and doesn't go anywhere at the slightest incline. I've tried all 3 pre sets and everything else i can think of. I can see the clutch start to squeeze, but it still doesn't grab the belt. The belt came new with the kit. I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

[@RedBeardsGarage]

+john Franklin probably faulty pulley's

[@thejohn6614]

Red Beard's Garage it's a whole new kit. New driver, driven, and belt. It was basically doing the same thing with the old set up. I made sure the pulleys are lined up. I even tried changing out the old torque converter with the spring from the new one. The only things i can think of is that we messed up the belt trying to get it working right or the clutch is faulty even though it's brand new. I think tomorrow I'm going to try to find another belt to rule that out. Thanks for the reply.

[@thejohn6614]

Red Beard's Garage and btw. I liked your video and subscribed. You made the best video I've seen so far explaining this setup.

[@thejohn6614]

Red Beard's Garage i had them send a new clutch and belt. It ran slow, so i put the torque converter on the 3rd setting. I didn't see the torque converter opening much. Then it ran pretty well but wore out the belt very quickly. I put the choke on so it was barely spinning so i could watch the clutch. I noticed that the clutch wasn't spinning true. It looked like the piece of the pulley closest to the engine was wobbling a bit while the actual clutch either wasn't or wasn't as much. I changed the spacer and the inside part of the clutch pulley and it seemed the whole thing was wobbling. I thought maybe the shaft wasn't true, but i can't imagine how it could have gotten bent. I also can't see how the pulley or spacer would have caused it since i changed them. I took everything off of the shaft and it looked to be true, but it's hard to tell if there's a slight bend or not. Is the pulley supposed to wobble for for some reason? Thanks.

[@ppcasm9837]

No, it's likely wobbling because the key inside the pulley isn't lined up to the crankshaft correctly. There sometimes isn't much space left for the key to slide into the shaft on the crankshaft, but it needs to fit in there in that one specific way or it will do exactly as you're describing.

[@matthewgreeson358]

I bought a 30 series torque converter and put it on my go kart but every time I ride it the chain comes loose.

[@RedBeardsGarage]

Are you sure your engine bolts aren't coming loose? I use all metal lock nuts because I use to have that problem. If you are using #35 chain then that also can be your problem because it is know to be weak

[@johnduff6436]

Dude, you are quite a guy. You would make a heck of a neighbor!

[@topdog.1002]

Where can I get that better spring

[@rollcoalbaby3127]

Hey red beard I just got a new monstermoto b212cc mini bike and the cvt is making a weird noise is there anyway you could help me out

[@zuser12345]

You don't state what "the problem" is in the beginning? What is the cart doing that requires you to do this process?

[@brandonandrew6844]

Do any of the clutch parts need lubricated?

[@RedBeardsGarage]

+Brandon Andrew just a little dry graphite grease inside the front pulley.

[@999benhonda]

There are plenty of "older" people who say stuff is "illegal" simply because they don't like it. They know they don't have any control, so they threaten to use police to get their way. People need to learn to mind their own business!

[@davidalderman5496]

So you never mentioned if the new parts fixed the problem you were having.

[@frios011]

The lady is just dealing with her MENopause!!!

[@francisogarcia4693]

Jaja se need a rid on the gocart 1 time jaja nice vídeo bro

[@nodarikhatiashvili6853]

Hello. What's the point and where to buy it? thank you in advance

[@patrickcherrez293]

can you help me with the measure of the band

[@insanity_gamez2294]

What's the best belt to use for a tecumseh 5hp motor

[@juanitabuechner4442]

ELITE_ SNIPZ

[@juanitabuechner4442]

No

[@brutallyhonestmf5578]

Drain the oil, clean it really good, buy some rope and use it as a small boat anchor.

[@mikep1085]

KAREN!!! You live next door to the original Karen!! LOL!

[@joedmac78]

Hey red beard. Do you have the guvna hooked up on that thing? I just installed the same TC on my son's kart and it won't go over 10mph maybe? Belt seems to be slipping too. My son's kart still has the governor on it

[@robertpolicastro1]

Use the real comet belt! I've had the same belt on mine for 10yrs now its still good

[@mrgallo7566]

What size? I just got the kids a Godard with this set up and the belt blew.

[@krislane7549]

Hey RedBeard. I bought a Manco Silver Fox 606 for my kids. Just installed the predator 212 have brand new cvt comet knock off. Thing is with my 15yo and my 11yo the belt breaks. Add me at 6ft3 270 yeah that belt is a goner fast. Do you think this will absolutely fix our issue too. We are in Fl extremely flat some minor very minor elevation changes in turf. Im disabled and this is one thing me my kids can do and bond as dad and sons. Is the go power sports belt really that better in quality? Again disabled and tight budget any and all help is appreciated.

[@lelo795]

Hello, where can I find this piece in New York? I'm from Brazil I'm here for a walk and I really wanted to buy her.

[@jadenpoulette62]

Red beard how do I know the size of my belt because I know it's an 80t but idk if it's 669 / 725 / 788

[@RedBeardsGarage]

There are some comet charts on line that will tell you how to measure it

[@jadenpoulette62]

Red Beard's Garage yeah I ordered a 669 so I'm just hoping it fits

[@dannywilliams8001]

My speed has decreased will this get me back to my original factory speed

[@nathanielcastellano907]

I bought a predator 212 and a torque converter and installed them on my baja mini warrior moto. after my cousin and I came back from the joyride next to the canals the bolt came off of the front disk or whatever it may be called and flew apart after I picked up the pieces and put it back together my bike won't idle and my bike is really difficult to move forward or backwards when the engine is off when it used to be easy. is the reason for that the mud or is it an engine problem because I did wash it afterwards. thanks for your help in advance.

[@RedBeardsGarage]

+Nathaniel Castellano just make sure everything is really clean and that everything is installed right. Make sure on the front pulley you seat those flat spots.

[@nathanielcastellano907]

I found the problem. it is the front shaft thats messed up. it is really hard to turn, like for example, if I move the bike while its off the front shaft will get stuck if I move it backwards and if I move it forwards its like moving a car its super hard. I took off the front pulley and the belt, and it moves like a breeze. also my engine won't idle even with the back screw all the way loose to stop the flow of the gas. how is this fixable!? thanks in advanced.

[@kxlucifer]

Nathaniel Castellano sometime parts come off due to low quality bolts like my tav2 shaft bolt it flew off on me but glad it flew of in my shed /yard area where its very clean.

[@aidentayes941]

I got a dune buggy and it’s a shit box lol I love getting yelled at by old people because I just listen to them and after I say thank you have a nice day😀 and they just get PISSED

[@alcurrie7620]

My rear pulls wont open. Any ideas?

[@markjackson4385]

sounds like some drag pipes need to bolt up...

[@rakeshrk3736]

Hey i want my go kart cvt to engage under 2000rpm how should i do pls help me with this problem . . .

[@RedBeardsGarage]

Call go power sports and they can get you set up with the right spring weight you will need

[@edwinsniper4270]

What belt size is it

[@mgiles6229]

Nice 👌. Are you in Georgia? I'm from commerce and I've heard of Jacky Jones Lincoln.

[@Lauren.com257]

do you ever have a problem with the brass ring that the belt rides on ?

[@RedBeardsGarage]

+Lauren Gross I have gotten go karts that were missing them, but I have never broke one.

[@Brandeino]

where do you order them? mine didnt come with one

[@Lauren.com257]

Im pretty sure amazon has them you just got to look up brass bushing for a gokart torque converter

[@andrewbeder51]

So, what happened to trying to sell?

[@dirtaddict3617]

I have the same tourque converator on a mini bike. I put 3.25 hours on my belt before it broke. Can you help me. What should I do.

[@RedBeardsGarage]

+EthanTheGamer do this same spring swap and it should fit your problem. I will post links to the products tomorrow.

[@kxlucifer]

EthanTheGamer i heard motorcyke virable belt works good in tav2.

[@LHGII]

Looks like the first case of Karen-19

[@JAM-zb2vh]

your cool I wish that you were my neighbor we can have fun Red Beard and Gray Beard in 54 and like to still have fun God Bless you Brother

[@cordellrush9806]

Thanx this video was very helpful getting ready to lift my off-road gocart any advance

[@christopherwilliams8423]

Ordered the parts you recommended. Thanks

[@katiluschris]

Why is there a chain & a belt?

[@alancampbell1633]

what size belt is that

[@RedBeardsGarage]

Ill post some links in a little bit for all the parts i used. Check back in a few hours.

[@chevysteve9043]

Always got those people,just pray for em.Merica!!!

[@blakeward3424]

RED BEARDS GARAGE I was thinking about getting one of the off brand toqure converter and I'm on a short budget. is it wourt 75 dollars.

[@RedBeardsGarage]

+blake ward there known for braking belts. I would pay the difference and get on from go power sports. If you get the cheap one you will spend the money in the long run replacing belts.

[@blakeward3424]

Red Beards Garage ok thank you for your opinion.

[@jamesdileonardo3469]

Red Beard's Garage

[@jamesdileonardo3469]

blake