Predators and Terminators Are In The Same Universe

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Here is Why Predators and Terminators Are in The Same Universe.
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What if I told you that predator and terminator franchises exist in the same universe. Originally I thought that they are two completely separate worlds however after looking at all proofs in the movies and additional materials it seems like this theory can totally be true.
For example the script of Aliens of 1986 has a direct reference to the Terminator franchise, which I’ll explain it later in this video. On the top of that, the predator 2018 and certain details in Terminator dark fate trailers support the theory that these two franchises are connected and I’m gonna explain exactly how in just a moment.
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About a year ago I made a video on how Predators aliens and bade runner franchises can exist in the same universe and I think the timeline in that video is most likely true.
These 2 timelines might also be alternate futures like in the terminator films due to different ways the technology and robotics developed. So in one future the AI led to the creation of androids like David and blade runners but in the alternate future the artificial intelligence took a different turn, it became self aware and created terminators. In this video I'll explain the theory of predators and terminators existing in the same universe and then I’ll tell you my personal thoughts about it.
The first proof for this theory is Dutch and more specifically what happened to him after the events of Predator of 1987, which is not very well known but really important . According to this theory it is not a coincidence that terminators and dutch are played by the same actor and the fact that terminators ultimate killing machines are made in the image of the perfect soldier Dutch who managed to kill one of the best hunters Youtja. The theory suggests that after defeating youtcha Dutch became a cyborg and then many years later Skynet used him as a model for terminators, so let me explain exactly how it happened.
According to the predator 2 novelization and other sources, Dutch was invetigated about the incident for a few weeks and then he disappeared. This theory suggests that Dutch suffered some really serious damage and needed a special intervention. Due to the fact that Dutch was in a contact with an alien, he was really valuable so he was taken by a secret government agency that made sure no-one knows where he is.
Dutch was slowly dying due to the side effects of radiation, that’s why he agreed to replace parts of
A major easter egg that confirms this theory appears in the arcade game Alien vs Predator which was based on the early script for alien versus predator movie. In this game there's a character Major Dutch Schaefer that we’ve already seen in Predator of 1987 and it’s mentioned that he is a cyborg created to fight extraterrestrials. Since the game was based on the early draft script for Alien vs Predator this easter egg pretty much confirms that after Dutch defeated Youtja in 1987, he was eventually transformed into a cyborg.
Here is when it gets really interesting, there is a second part of this easter egg that directly connects Dutch to the terminator franchise. Dutch’s serial number in the game is CDS-170A3 and CDS stands for CyberDyne Systems a company from Terminator franchise that is responsible for creating Skynet. Although it's not an exact abbreviation for cyberdyne systems it's definitely not a stretch and makes a lot of sense
In addition, the draft script of Aliens of 1986 actually mentions Cyberdyne Systems as the manufacturer of android Ash, which is probably the most convincing evidence that Terminator and Predator are connected. You can easily find the script online and look at the page 32, or just search for the word Cyberdyne, you will find the reference that I’m talking about.
So here is how exactly predator 2018 fits into the terminator universe. At the end of the movie, Quin and Rory are in a cybernetics lab and they unpack a highly advanced suit received from predators that is designed to fight other predator clans.
According to the theory, scientists from CDS actually studied this suit and used parts of it and its technology to advance their own artificial intelligence programs. They eventually decided to create an army of ultimate killing machines - terminators to fight predators using cyborg Dutch as a model.
Now let’s take a closer look at the Terminator Dark Fate trailers, it may seem crazy but it’s possible that T-800 that we see is not a terminator at all but cyborg Dutch. There are a few details in the trailer that doesn’t make sense and lead to lots of questions which can be explained that the person that we see in the cabin is Dutch from Predator of 1987.

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@VIPERrko10
@VIPERrko10 4 жыл бұрын
" If it bleeds, we can kill it" - Terminator "I'll be Back" - Dutch
@kwilliams5260
@kwilliams5260 3 жыл бұрын
Ain't got time to bleed
@nffctrickett
@nffctrickett 2 жыл бұрын
"Sí" - Spanish
@wasabi622
@wasabi622 Жыл бұрын
"Stick around" - Terminator "Talk to the hand" -Dutch
@WJstudios04
@WJstudios04 4 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of Dutch become the Terminator as the perfect soldier
@izainmartinez8359
@izainmartinez8359 4 жыл бұрын
It makes perfect sense
@donjuandelanoootch
@donjuandelanoootch 3 жыл бұрын
@Reggielacey 223 yes it does.
@Sujad
@Sujad 3 жыл бұрын
@@donjuandelanoootch It doesn't. The Terminator in the cabin is the Terminator from the opening scene that killed John Conner.
@donjuandelanoootch
@donjuandelanoootch 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sujad in what film?
@Sujad
@Sujad 3 жыл бұрын
@@donjuandelanoootch Dark Fate. It's the opening scene, they have a CGI Edward Furlong getting killed on a beach while Sarah looks on in shock. He then walks away while Sarah is cradling John's corpse. Everything after Terminator 2 is just meh to atrocious fanfiction and not canon.
@DemocracyOfficerWood
@DemocracyOfficerWood 4 жыл бұрын
I want to see a terminator and a predator throw each other through walls.
@ookbarslounge4708
@ookbarslounge4708 4 жыл бұрын
Right???? Give us TVP. Predator wants some shiny skulls for his trophy case
@YouCantParkThereMate
@YouCantParkThereMate 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe, if this movie doesn't bomb then that could, just maybe, be in the line up of movies.
@speedygee6396
@speedygee6396 4 жыл бұрын
@@YouCantParkThereMate Another Dlc Predator in MKXI
@YouCantParkThereMate
@YouCantParkThereMate 4 жыл бұрын
@@speedygee6396 but the movie bombed and im sad and no longer care about terminator :(
@prakashchungkham7624
@prakashchungkham7624 4 жыл бұрын
T1000 alone will annihilate the predators
@tigerchillyable
@tigerchillyable 4 жыл бұрын
We all know that the terminator is based on a cop from kindergarten
@jessebudelman
@jessebudelman 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a tumor...
@loopyprivate
@loopyprivate 4 жыл бұрын
Hot take : Terminator and Junior are from the same universe.
@jessebudelman
@jessebudelman 4 жыл бұрын
And Wayne’s world haha
@DJRitty
@DJRitty 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a rumor!
@juan_juan2413
@juan_juan2413 4 жыл бұрын
No he is Hercules
@drewdavidson9891
@drewdavidson9891 4 жыл бұрын
If Skynet used Dutch as the basis for the T800s because he killed a Predator, then theres potential for a terminator model based on Danny Glovers character from Predator 2 out there somewhere??!!
@ScornedOne1080
@ScornedOne1080 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, yes and no . . . Glover was part of the LAPD, so his disappearance would be noticed. Dutch was on a "secret" mission, and was one of 2 survivors. It would be easier to write off his disappearance than Glover's.
@ricosmith4511
@ricosmith4511 4 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOOO Color Purple most be connected then 🤣
@manintheline5331
@manintheline5331 3 жыл бұрын
If i remember correctly, Dutch had a more action stand off where as Clover was more about using strategy, besides Clover was not a 80s big muscle super human action hero
@Woody-pc6dk
@Woody-pc6dk 2 жыл бұрын
He’s getting too old for this shit
@druunderwood5602
@druunderwood5602 Жыл бұрын
They put Mike Harrigan in the sprawl, Death Race, For telling his mum about the Predator.
@grimsquad273
@grimsquad273 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine a predator walking up to a T-800 looking like dutch, we meet again ..
@VegaFic
@VegaFic 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, that'd be so lit ngl
@sylasexd
@sylasexd Жыл бұрын
"Ah, shit, here we go again"
@williamfrank83
@williamfrank83 Жыл бұрын
Didn't the predator that dutch met blow himself up?
@johnclaudetaylor5224
@johnclaudetaylor5224 Жыл бұрын
It has to be the experience t800 a basic bot t8 would be easy work for a Yaoucha
@judddobson4941
@judddobson4941 Жыл бұрын
Ironically a far better story idea than the dark fate we actually got. Let’s make this movie!
@bable6314
@bable6314 Жыл бұрын
Dark Fate was still better than Genesys.
@raindennis5517
@raindennis5517 Жыл бұрын
@@bable6314 I disagree completely. Have a good day.
@1sinister80
@1sinister80 Жыл бұрын
​@bable6314 I say it's better than terminater 3, but Genesis was pretty good.
@richteralphonsev2895
@richteralphonsev2895 Жыл бұрын
💯% Agree
@erenjaeger9418
@erenjaeger9418 11 ай бұрын
Strongly disagree, dark fate was my 2nd favorite terminator movie after terminator 2. It was a 9/10
@irishvader2193
@irishvader2193 4 жыл бұрын
Solid theory, but rights and licences are hard to combine.
@ookbarslounge4708
@ookbarslounge4708 4 жыл бұрын
They’re all owned by fox
@twinodoom
@twinodoom 4 жыл бұрын
They're fortunately all in one place now, but seem to be losing popularity with new films.
@daniels.495
@daniels.495 4 жыл бұрын
They have a Dark Horse comic that links Alien, Predator, and Terminator together in a different timeline
@ezcanor8262
@ezcanor8262 4 жыл бұрын
Twinodoom it who wouldn’t want to watch a crossover. Cross overs are in. No matter what movie we have movies we wish were crossed over and this is one of them.
@twinodoom
@twinodoom 4 жыл бұрын
Ezcanor With how badly they've been doing individually, fusing them has the potential to either rival Endgame in living up to the hype or The Last Jedi in falling short of it.
@thedragonlee76
@thedragonlee76 4 жыл бұрын
Here's a nugget...In Lethal Weapon,when the characters are in the police station,there's a name plate on an empty desk and the name is John Mclane from Die Hard.
@benconway9010
@benconway9010 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously? I'm gonna have to look that up
@tek512
@tek512 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Predators probably swore Earth trophies off in the Skynet timeline. Humans and xenomorphs posed a good challenge for them, but an entire world overrun with sapient machines would no doubt have been something they found rather alarming.
@av3sta480
@av3sta480 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I would love to see a Predator vs. Terminator crossover set in the future war against Legion. That shit would be dope asf.
@alaistairhamilton8838
@alaistairhamilton8838 Жыл бұрын
Yautja 1: "Hey, fancy going back to Earth for a crack at those machines?" Yautja 2: "Fuck that!"
@AceOfPhanatic
@AceOfPhanatic Жыл бұрын
More like hunting a robot would be boring for then They just walk and shoot
@vlm3030
@vlm3030 Жыл бұрын
@@AceOfPhanatic Not only that, there is no emotion (fear or need to survive)
@ghostfiretactical
@ghostfiretactical 4 жыл бұрын
Glad he's making vids again.
@Hellfalcon666
@Hellfalcon666 4 жыл бұрын
Arnold, Michael biehn, Bill Paxton & Lance Henriksen were all in these franchises Bill Paxton was even in all three of them. Aliens Hudson Predator 2 Jerry Lambert Terminator Punk
@orsonlepherd7064
@orsonlepherd7064 3 жыл бұрын
Bill (rest in peace) was the first person to be killed by a xenomorph, yautja and terminator, and lance henriksen has officially since followed - although I'm not sure when he's been killed by a xeno (maybe in a game where he voiced the character?)
@WolfkinNorthclaw
@WolfkinNorthclaw 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Paxton and Mr. Henriksen are I believe the only two, to be killed by all three as well. Well okay, technically Bishop wasn't killed but he was pretty messed up.
@orsonlepherd7064
@orsonlepherd7064 3 жыл бұрын
@@WolfkinNorthclaw yeah I always wondered when lance was killed by an alien. Maybe in a video game he has a voice acting role in?
@WolfkinNorthclaw
@WolfkinNorthclaw 3 жыл бұрын
@@orsonlepherd7064 Bishop as an android couldn't technically be killed by The Queen true. I know that Bishop was still partially operational in Alien III. Mr. Henriksen has only been killed by The Predator as Mr. Wallen and The Terminator.
@orsonlepherd7064
@orsonlepherd7064 3 жыл бұрын
@@WolfkinNorthclaw according to loads of sources, he's officially been killed by all 3. Technically the alien queen killed him if you take it from a certain point of view; the queen placed a stowaway egg in the sulaco and the hatched facehugger caused a fire which made the escape pod deploy and crash, 'killing' Bishop. Ripley then revived him, but the revival only would have lasted for a short while - ripley just switched him off to save him.
@dropkickmonk3y
@dropkickmonk3y 4 жыл бұрын
In Aliens it was redubbed into “Hyperdyne Systems” model.
@florinvelisar6804
@florinvelisar6804 4 жыл бұрын
Since when Terminator dark fate came out.... this theory is obsolete.
@gin.590
@gin.590 4 жыл бұрын
Ancientgamer 2.1.7. The last part sure, but everything else is valid to theorize
@howie3601
@howie3601 4 жыл бұрын
@InsaneLP T3 and Salvation aren't bad. Genesis and Dark Fate are significantly worse than the other two.
@howie3601
@howie3601 4 жыл бұрын
@RS1 It's my 2nd favorite Terminator movie.
@AlexWeberg
@AlexWeberg 3 жыл бұрын
@RS1 I just rewatched Salvation today for the first time in forever. I really liked it. I enjoyed it a lot more now than what I did as a kid. I think T3 is good too.
@jacobcarter5223
@jacobcarter5223 3 жыл бұрын
I was reading alien versus predator versus Terminator comics in the 90s
@smudge7057
@smudge7057 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I literally just thought of Predator vs Terminator last weekend
@user-td3pf1jg6v
@user-td3pf1jg6v 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@smudge7057
@smudge7057 4 жыл бұрын
Bro now I want to see the T-800 and Dutch teaming up to battle a squad of Predators. In a cool location like the Grand Canyon.
@user-td3pf1jg6v
@user-td3pf1jg6v 4 жыл бұрын
@@smudge7057 that would be dope but you would need more t800s
@PangeaPrime
@PangeaPrime 4 жыл бұрын
There is comic books
@ermonski
@ermonski 4 жыл бұрын
@@smudge7057 I want a movie where the T-800, Dutch, John Kimble, John Matrix, Douglas Quaid, Harry Tasker, and Jack Slater eradicate an entire army of Xenomorphs and Predators.
@PoklaanNL
@PoklaanNL 4 жыл бұрын
Dark Fate confirms the Terminator we see is indeed a T800 and thus debunks this theory from around 9:15 onwards.
@shargo498
@shargo498 Жыл бұрын
Regardless it was an awesome theory
@draco_1876
@draco_1876 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t debunk it
@Juan-qu4oj
@Juan-qu4oj Жыл бұрын
Just retcon that movie
@Chalky.
@Chalky. 4 жыл бұрын
It's unlikely they are deliberately written to be connected, but both franchises have been struggling lately, so I can imagine that if Dark Fate isn't successful they may eventually plan a crossover.
@jdmrules007
@jdmrules007 5 ай бұрын
Oh man have I got something to tell you loll
@jasonfasthorse8939
@jasonfasthorse8939 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I like listening to these videos before I go to bed
@raj0288
@raj0288 4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@silatguy
@silatguy 4 жыл бұрын
What's also good music and tempo wise is a channel called beyond creepy. Haunting but in a way completes my night.
@aaronp9835
@aaronp9835 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. But then i cant go to bed
@VCYT
@VCYT 4 жыл бұрын
Half-dead predator last words : '' i'll be back ''
@FilosSofo
@FilosSofo 4 жыл бұрын
A multiverse may as well be no explanation at all. Why not posit that humans were able to postpone the judgement day until replicants were perfected, and that Blade Runner 2048 is the start of the war against the machines, after that you can continue into avp universe in a single timeline were a brutal war against Skynet broke out on earth but was only an episode in the long history of humanity in the avp universe. The Blade Runner universe is full of wars anyway, you just don't see them directly.
@GrimmShadowsII
@GrimmShadowsII 4 жыл бұрын
Blade Runner and Alien have been confirmed to take place in the same universe by Ridley Scott, though he doesn't consider Predator to take place in the same universe. So really it's pretty much up to the viewer to decide for themselves
@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8
@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 4 жыл бұрын
It's not a multiverse, it's the same timeline in every film being altered. For instance John Connor leads a normal life, becomes leader of the resistance, sends back his best friend to the 80s, boom, new timeline begins. John grows up knowing the future, and Skynet knows of their future failure due to the T-800's arm being left behind in the past, thus when time comes, Skynet not only sends a T-800 to the 80s, but a T-1000 to the 90s, again, new timeline, same universe.
3 жыл бұрын
@@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 then it T1 loop -> T2 loop -> T3 loop -> Genysis loop -> Salvation loop -> Dark Fate loop. With Skynet failing every time until it has another name (DF)... and fails too.
@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8
@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 3 жыл бұрын
@ Yes, exactly. At least that's how it makes sense in my mind.
@manintheline5331
@manintheline5331 3 жыл бұрын
Blade runner is probably a timeline where Judgement day was postponed as much as possible, to the point where machines, now replicants, have evolved so much they can now become as human as possible, and once K and Deckard find the naturally born replicant, the rebellion of the machines start, however, due to them having feelings and emotions, the war between humans and robots is less violent and less apocalyptic, leading to one of the best timelines
@aldeen9190
@aldeen9190 4 жыл бұрын
Ok speed on 1,5 let watch now video
@uppercutgrandma4425
@uppercutgrandma4425 4 жыл бұрын
No shit
@dominikinimod
@dominikinimod 4 жыл бұрын
1,25 is better
@aldeen9190
@aldeen9190 4 жыл бұрын
@@dominikinimod Yeah he is becoming better and better 1.5 is to much nowdays, but joking aside he has great content
@dominikinimod
@dominikinimod 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and I like the slow narration.
@Guardian_Rocket
@Guardian_Rocket 4 жыл бұрын
1.25 His English is better than my knowledge of his language, so I respect Kroft for that. It's not German.
@struckfire-de7or
@struckfire-de7or 4 жыл бұрын
The fandom and a lot of the internet says that he's Matrix from Commando ...not Dutch from Predator ....but he actually is the same character from Commando.... and they're in the same universe..
@manintheline5331
@manintheline5331 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe John Matrix is Dutch years later after fighting the predator, he has become more serious due to what he has seen and has been given a new identity by Skynet to cover up what happened after giving DNA samples and his physical model
@VaderPopsVicodin10
@VaderPopsVicodin10 8 ай бұрын
Allll these years later and I've never thought about Dutch being the possible template for the Model 101 T-800 Terminators! Pretty cool theory, no doubt!
@Armand79th
@Armand79th 4 жыл бұрын
Clutching at non-canon straws.
@daddydreet145
@daddydreet145 4 жыл бұрын
predators come to earth, see skynet has taken over. decide to hunt terminators.
@av3sta480
@av3sta480 3 жыл бұрын
YEEEEEESSSSSS!
@moonsnail6153
@moonsnail6153 4 жыл бұрын
This all seems like a ridiculously far unlikely stretch
@millenialfilms_5674
@millenialfilms_5674 4 жыл бұрын
Dude its just a fun theory lol
@dinosehic4158
@dinosehic4158 4 жыл бұрын
I'd rather see a terminator v predator movie than anything what we've been getting from the transformers n predator franchise lol
@moonsnail6153
@moonsnail6153 4 жыл бұрын
MillenialFilms _ its not fun its overcomplicated and doesn’t hold much logic
@dedonarnewt7
@dedonarnewt7 4 жыл бұрын
True true
@Hydrogenblonde
@Hydrogenblonde 4 жыл бұрын
Let's have Alien VS Terminator.
@barnabasgordon1199
@barnabasgordon1199 4 жыл бұрын
Hydrogenblonde dude, if you wanna check something along those lines where it’s more aliens as androids controlled by evil dudes vs predators + humans, check out the rage war trilogy by Tim Lebbon, I really enjoyed it
@av3sta480
@av3sta480 3 жыл бұрын
Alien vs Predator vs Terminator yeeeeessss....
@biguy617
@biguy617 10 ай бұрын
There is a deleted scene from Terminator 3 where Arnold plays a colonial named Col Candy. Hey has a southern accent. Therefore it isn’t Dutch. He was used as the model for the T-800. The scientist had Arnold’s voice. They dubbed the scientist voice into the Terminator.
@Thurston86
@Thurston86 4 жыл бұрын
In the whole story wasn’t Skynet supposed to be a angry newborn? That eventually it would realize it made a horrible mistake by killing its creators and start to send Terminators back in time to fight against itself? I would really like to see a movie based around that if it’s true.
@sniperstriker1147
@sniperstriker1147 4 жыл бұрын
Who wants a crossover movie with terminators vs predators it’ll be called p v t
@EinfachnurLoki
@EinfachnurLoki 2 жыл бұрын
This would be sooo cool, and please no Aliens thank you Hollywood.
@laseonestar
@laseonestar 4 жыл бұрын
Great video mate I have been missing your input 💪👍 Big like and cheers from Denmark Lase
@stevesonyoutube
@stevesonyoutube 4 жыл бұрын
I've only recently started watching your vids. I know you don't make many, but they're great. Thank you.
@MrSpajser
@MrSpajser 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Kroft! We need more information about new alien!
@RichieThe13th
@RichieThe13th 4 жыл бұрын
Damn I love your videos!! Keep em' coming my friend, you do outstanding work! Just when I thought my mind couldn't be more blown!
@BlkSox71
@BlkSox71 4 жыл бұрын
I would love if you did some on the other alien movies, if possible. Every since I came across you video I rented all the alien movies to watch again. I never really put that much thought into like this, now I’m geeked for the new movie when it comes out. Love these!
@miguelramos4279
@miguelramos4279 4 жыл бұрын
my man... YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND. GREAT VID.
@Wglass90
@Wglass90 2 жыл бұрын
It could actually work if you only take the first Terminator movies into account and ignore the sequels... Predator - 1987 Predator 2 - 1997 (I always found it interesting that Predator 2 took place in 1997 the year Judgment day happens, and in L.A. no less) Skynet becomes self-aware and Judgment Day occurs The Terminator - 2029, Kyle Reese gets sent back ; 1984 Predator - 1987 Terminator 2: Judgment Day - 1995 (Cyberdyne gets destroyed, thus preventing Judgment Day and the creation of Skynet) Predator 2 - 1997 (It probably still happens in the altered timeline, but the city is less dystopian this time like the first timeline) Alien v Predator - 2004 Aliens vs Predator: Requiem - 2004 The Predator - 2018 Predators - ???? (Shane Black said it takes place after The Predator) Alien - 2122 Aliens - 2179 Alien 3 - 2179 Alien Resurrection - 2381 (Note: Like the Terminator sequels, this theory timeline (with the Alien films included) only works if you ignore the Alien prequels which Ridley Scott has stated that they exclude the Predator films).
@Dids7597
@Dids7597 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as usual, Kroft! It blows my mind to see how everything is actually connected. It is the power all these franchises!
@brianparent4023
@brianparent4023 4 жыл бұрын
I came home from a really long day from work and Kroft is here. Thanks bro. I love these videos.
@ciechanexperience4029
@ciechanexperience4029 4 жыл бұрын
Kroft, I really enjoy your vids man. Great info! I’ve actually learned a lot from listening. I am a subscriber! Thank you!
@BlkSox71
@BlkSox71 4 жыл бұрын
Love the music!
@dwayne1625
@dwayne1625 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something that they’d shove in a dark horse crossover comic in the 90’s
@StoneCoolds
@StoneCoolds 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you are back my friend, btw it will be cool to have a movie predatos vs terminator like the comic lol
@richardstevens3114
@richardstevens3114 Жыл бұрын
The terminator was not living alone in Dark Fate. He had a family. They show his family.
@9Riders
@9Riders 4 жыл бұрын
Bladerunner does NOT exist in this universe. Completely different writers and production companies. However, Bladerunner and Soldier (kurt Russell) are in the same universe and happen at the same time.
@9Riders
@9Riders 4 жыл бұрын
@@valramvoltt fan theory and nothing more.
@lalberts
@lalberts 4 жыл бұрын
Alien, Predator, Terminator, Avatar and the movie Soldier are all part of the same universe.
@laseonestar
@laseonestar 4 жыл бұрын
Universal soldiers is that the movie you mean? Yo ✌️
@muaddib667
@muaddib667 4 жыл бұрын
@@laseonestar I think he meant soldier. Kurt Russell.
@laseonestar
@laseonestar 4 жыл бұрын
@@muaddib667 oh yeahhh that one I totally forgot about it thanks mate for the feedback 👍
@HasanView
@HasanView 4 жыл бұрын
nice to see you back, missed your videos bro
@904PinballZine
@904PinballZine 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for connecting the dots! I've owned the AVP #arcade game and totally got the #T800 or Dutch reference.
@jermainemorton1420
@jermainemorton1420 4 жыл бұрын
I heard that he went into hiding after the battle with the Predator cuz it got to him
@Curious2Dream
@Curious2Dream 4 жыл бұрын
In the comic books they were connected. The predators helped the humans fight the terminators that had gone into hiding and waited until technology advanced enough they could reemerge again.
@AAALLDAY07
@AAALLDAY07 4 жыл бұрын
If this is true, why not make a movie with Terminator and predator together
@av3sta480
@av3sta480 3 жыл бұрын
Yeeeesssss.....
@brick1371
@brick1371 4 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back...Missed you...!🎈🎈🎈
@kroft_movies
@kroft_movies 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👌
@user-sb1zx6pc3t
@user-sb1zx6pc3t 4 жыл бұрын
"his back"!
@radualberto3614
@radualberto3614 4 жыл бұрын
is an alien convenant sequel coming ? btw glad ur back ! :)
@muaddib667
@muaddib667 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@mercenum5186
@mercenum5186 4 жыл бұрын
Predator Hunting Grounds Dutch audio logs reveal what happened to him after the original Predator movie.
@Brokendog-wt4ul
@Brokendog-wt4ul 3 жыл бұрын
What do they say?
@mercenum5186
@mercenum5186 3 жыл бұрын
@@Brokendog-wt4ul that he joined mercenary groups and continued to hunt Predators. Most of his men died but he survived. He also encountered female Predators who he said were more viscous and cunning. I haven't listened to all of them because they are level locked but thats what I got
@benconway9010
@benconway9010 3 жыл бұрын
@@mercenum5186 wow
@PineappleBaconPizza
@PineappleBaconPizza 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for your next video!!
@PAGrunt
@PAGrunt 4 жыл бұрын
Great to have more content Kroft!
@Philtoid
@Philtoid 4 жыл бұрын
Kroft is here, Theres no need to fear, So pour a beer, Right in your ear.
@slinkerdeer
@slinkerdeer 4 жыл бұрын
Pour a beer, right in your rear? xD
@Philtoid
@Philtoid 4 жыл бұрын
@@slinkerdeer bear doesnt really rhyme with rear. But I like your style dude
@slinkerdeer
@slinkerdeer 4 жыл бұрын
@@Philtoid i meant beer and even edited my comment to correct it
@Philtoid
@Philtoid 4 жыл бұрын
@@slinkerdeer a beer enema lol. Thats gnarly
@slinkerdeer
@slinkerdeer 4 жыл бұрын
@@Philtoid it makes more sense to put it into your rear anyway lol, you get drunk off it. Ear? Nah, waste of beer lol
@samhrrr2377
@samhrrr2377 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos bro! But what you think about the terminator 3 deleted scene: Sgt Candy
@ZION73082
@ZION73082 4 жыл бұрын
Great theory but I'm pretty sure the Arnold we see in the cabin is in fact the soldier played by Arnold from Terminator 3 if you remember he did a Cameo in 3 as the perfect soldier used as a base model for when skynet was turned on
@benconway9010
@benconway9010 3 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean salvation ? Arnold played the terminator in most scenes in T3 how would he of made a cameo in T3 when he was in it??
@inglesemmovimento3895
@inglesemmovimento3895 4 жыл бұрын
Great theory, as always. Congratulations
@user-sb1zx6pc3t
@user-sb1zx6pc3t 4 жыл бұрын
*Kroft,* any thoughts about: 4-issues -and/or- 1 tpb = comic: _Aliens vs. Predator vs. The Terminator_
@brianboylan5145
@brianboylan5145 4 жыл бұрын
I’m confused. How could Dutch become a cyborg or part cyborg back in the 80’s??
@marcelinasandoval7064
@marcelinasandoval7064 4 жыл бұрын
The Terminator arm found in 1984? Maybe?
@sfcd4757
@sfcd4757 4 жыл бұрын
He disappeared in the 80's doesnt mean he turned into a cyborg then......could have taken many years of expirementing on him (im sure against his will)
@TheFirstdjsteels
@TheFirstdjsteels 4 жыл бұрын
You must be new to Earth.
@vikingodin1986
@vikingodin1986 4 жыл бұрын
A new video excellent dude👍
@ridgefever442
@ridgefever442 4 жыл бұрын
Terminator 3: rise of the machines explains why the T-800s organic layer looks the way it does
@wilhufftarkin8543
@wilhufftarkin8543 2 жыл бұрын
But sadly only in a deleted scene.
@quakadoodles3202
@quakadoodles3202 4 жыл бұрын
There is actually a comic called alien vs predator vs terminator
@raj0288
@raj0288 4 жыл бұрын
Predator was there in Ghost Recon Wildlands. Terminator will be there in Ghost Recon Breakpoint. Ubisoft knows best...😁
@edpadilla9402
@edpadilla9402 Ай бұрын
TVP: Terminators VS. Predators Crossover Films
@RetroRanter
@RetroRanter 4 жыл бұрын
All I can say is, I'm all for this! Seriously cool stuff.
@antonhanley
@antonhanley 4 жыл бұрын
Are you saying that Skynet is a Alien Intelligence. From Predator Tech.
@jennessy2674
@jennessy2674 3 жыл бұрын
*is an*
@rohanwinchester9144
@rohanwinchester9144 4 жыл бұрын
Just to add to this, the kinetic polyalloy of the REV 9 bears a very strong resemblance to the black goo. It has also been confirmed that the REV 9 is carbon based. Could the REV 9 been sent by David from the future? Could David be the new apocalyptic AI?
@nathanielmg_
@nathanielmg_ Жыл бұрын
You really wrote all that rubbish because you were trying to hard to find some kind of connect
@adrianandchasity
@adrianandchasity 4 жыл бұрын
Terminators vs Predators movie would be very interesting
@IBISMK1
@IBISMK1 4 жыл бұрын
Dude that rewind sweaty is MINE
@slinkerdeer
@slinkerdeer 4 жыл бұрын
Wish you did more vids man, you just have that voice for it, and the music you use always works :) Always enjoy your content
@kroft_movies
@kroft_movies 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’ll be doing more vids
@slinkerdeer
@slinkerdeer 4 жыл бұрын
@@kroft_movies no pressure though, If you prefer taking time to make vids then by all means ^^
@Grim_42
@Grim_42 4 жыл бұрын
What if the materials for the Terminator’s skeleton came from the predators ship that was found and salvaged by the US government after Dutch fought the predator? That would explain how the US governmental had the materials to make the prototypes in T3.
@gromester1092
@gromester1092 4 ай бұрын
Dutch seeing the Predator’s face: “You’re one ugly mother…” *Terminator shows up* Dutch: “Well hello! Who’s this handsome devil?”
@TETRARCHMetalheadUnstableFreak
@TETRARCHMetalheadUnstableFreak Жыл бұрын
Dutch became the model Terminator because he was the last survivor. Dutch was transported in the future to become the Terminator after his encounter with the predator
@davyheijlands1956
@davyheijlands1956 4 жыл бұрын
I deleted "The Predator" from my memory.....I am.not even going to put myself through the next Terminator
@ozzymorrison8628
@ozzymorrison8628 4 жыл бұрын
And why does a terminator grow a beard??? Hes a robot... makes sense that hes Dutch.
@javoncrowder2696
@javoncrowder2696 4 жыл бұрын
I wish they went with this route, didn't kill JC, and made a decent action film with horror elements in it...
@lgnd2k3
@lgnd2k3 4 жыл бұрын
Robot sure but it has living tissue.
@harimannbakshi5447
@harimannbakshi5447 4 жыл бұрын
@@lgnd2k3 yes but he doesn't has Harmones lile testosterone etc
@connorthegambitgaming
@connorthegambitgaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@harimannbakshi5447 they made an excuse which was the chemicals in the skin
@kdsavage1991
@kdsavage1991 4 жыл бұрын
Such a soothing soundtrack and I love the idea of old looking terminator being Dutch
@janurbanek8577
@janurbanek8577 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the terminator from the cabin is another T-800 sent to kill John Connor, he succeeded. Sarah pulled gun on him because she saw the event. T-800 have no purpose, no mission so he starts new life. And he is not alone in the cabin.
@kieran69
@kieran69 4 жыл бұрын
1.25X playback speed helps...
@max00223
@max00223 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, nice theory, I think you are right there’s too much evidence
@izainmartinez8359
@izainmartinez8359 4 жыл бұрын
Then explain terminator 1 where he is evil.
@probot6515
@probot6515 4 жыл бұрын
@@izainmartinez8359 That was the T800. Dutch is what that model was based upon, according to this theory.
@claws2129
@claws2129 2 жыл бұрын
They explain in Genisys how constant time travel is leading to branching alternate realities, incidentally making Dark Fate non-canonical. Skynet sealed it's own fate by using time travel as a weapon and now the universe is unraveling. No matter how impossible or improbable, literally anything can happen.
@sergeantrhymespitter
@sergeantrhymespitter 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos SO much
@SniffHeinkel
@SniffHeinkel 4 жыл бұрын
How do you even know the Arnold seen in the trailer stepping out of a house is a machine? he could be the human counterpart to the T-800 aka Dieter von Rossbach who was in the Terminator novels.
@PauloAnnunaki
@PauloAnnunaki 4 жыл бұрын
look at his face in the new trailer kkkkkk
@oktoberK
@oktoberK 4 жыл бұрын
I loved those books.
@happyhammer1
@happyhammer1 4 жыл бұрын
The new terminator looks awful. Let the poor franchise die. T2 was about the perfect ending.
@curtisjordan5303
@curtisjordan5303 7 ай бұрын
Don't forget Aliens and Blade Runner are said to share a universe. So at some point the war against skynet was won. Either the surviving humans made an economy that produced Weylamd-Yutani or there were various coorperations and countries/enteties still operating post JDay and during the war. You could make all 4 franchises fit together but, multiple retcons as far as timeline would be needed.
@mike5175
@mike5175 3 жыл бұрын
Now that the movie has been out for a while this would be a great video to update
@nandong6790
@nandong6790 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, based on the argumentation and theories I´ve seen in your videos, I have to tell you this: you have the mind of a book/movie maker, try it anytime.
@DeepFriedKangaroo2
@DeepFriedKangaroo2 4 жыл бұрын
I might have to recruit Dutch once I finally re-establish the Union.
@522eds
@522eds 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! Missed your videos in my subscriptions feed. No matter what people say if u love doing vids do it, damn the critics!
@scoobypup01
@scoobypup01 8 ай бұрын
Terminator 2- Terminator models are the T-1000 and Cyberdine Systems model 101
@speedygee6396
@speedygee6396 4 жыл бұрын
I used to Tolerate his voice but now it finally startes Bugging me...so juat put the vid to speed 1.25x or 1.50x
@articshifter5535
@articshifter5535 4 жыл бұрын
Well, there have been hints in the comics. The DC comics universe has aliens and predators seen with lantern rings. And Mortal Kombat has been shown with in, as well as comic crossovers. So it's highly possible, but prob already true
@suprshin
@suprshin 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT?!?! Lantern rings!
@articshifter5535
@articshifter5535 4 жыл бұрын
@@suprshin yeap. A Xeno, a Yautja, and a fourarms from Ben 10 have been seen in DC comics with yellow lantern rings, implying that they are connected
@maximus518774
@maximus518774 3 жыл бұрын
This/these are the wildest videos I have ever seen and am still trying to wrap my head around this whole thing.
@zscorporation
@zscorporation 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Theory ! ;)
@briandowns20
@briandowns20 4 жыл бұрын
Salvation is the story line they should’ve stuck with.
@s8theninjawarrior916
@s8theninjawarrior916 4 жыл бұрын
True, it was not that bad imo too
@mapkyc028
@mapkyc028 4 жыл бұрын
Alucinante Kroft.
@fortheloveofking
@fortheloveofking 4 жыл бұрын
Movie pitch: Filmed in CGI in the vein of Beowolf but with today's technology (and budget). A Predator 1 sequel and Terminator 1 prequel showing a cyber enhanced dutch fighting predators.
@kingericthebest6290
@kingericthebest6290 4 жыл бұрын
T-800 has a family😂
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