Predicting Future NFL Expansion & Relocation

Discussing future NFL expansion
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[@matthewbrueckner8374]

It really is hard seeing the NFL expand. 32 teams is such a well-balanced number of teams.

[@alexsebastian1112]

Agreed and you start watering down the league hurting the overall product

[@scotttild]

Owners see billions in expansion fees’ so yeah will get sooner or latter.

[@josephross7936]

40 teams is coming before 2040. 18 game schedule in 2030. Just make the player play 16 max games in 18 game season (expect kicker & punter)

[@HoshizakiYoshimasa]

​@@scotttildso fanbases odds of seeing their team win it all get even smaller....

[@robertlindey2538]

@@josephross7936 Expand the playoffs as well? Maybe eliminate or shorten the preseason?

[@dreamcage1801]

San Diego needs a NFL team again

[@andrewcarey5359]

Won't happen.

[@paraskep5080]

agree with you as a San Diego native.

[@dreamcage1801]

@@paraskep5080 Chargers shouldn’t have never left

[@dreamcage1801]

@@andrewcarey5359 never say never

[@CaitlinClarkSoldier_22]

Yeah that's definitely not happening. Like ever

[@GreenFlame2007]

Bucs would not relocate, despite the bad years, there is a passionate fan base, and with recent playoff success and no financial issues, I don’t see them moving anytime soon.

[@PrinceGenius123]

Agree. Plenty of history and tradition there too.

[@Tank4Life]

Literally nothing wrong with Raymond James. Tampa is going nowhere.

[@tomwujek4867]

Maybe some upgrades will occur, but the stadium itself is in good shape

[@NerdKrew]

I've been to a few games and Wrestlemania there and it was great. Oh wait its hot af and it rained for mainia. Stop building open air stadiums and build domes.

[@WDI2008]

Birmingham, AL has been often teased for NFL Expansion/Relocation.

[@thenaturalmidsouth9536]

Not gonna happen. SD and maybe a Canadian city. Salt Lake city maybe.

[@MikeyMike4018]

No it hasn't......

[@MrUnsolvedMystery]

San Diego should be #1 about getting team back if they can get a stadium built . Super Bowl meant to be played there. The San Antonio/ Austin Corridor has about 5 million people. They can support a team if cowboys/Texans allow it

[@robertwiles8106]

A second team in Dallas makes a lot more sense numbers wise than a team in Austin/SA.

[@steventomasi5557]

My 8 picks for NFL expansion is San Diego,Portland,Salt Lake City,St.Louis,San Antonio,Birmingham,OKC and Omaha

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

I don't think Birmingham gets a team. If you look at Atlanta as an example, the Georgia Bulldogs are more popular and a Birmingham team would be third fiddle to Alabama and Auburn especially during spells where the team isn't doing well lol

[@scotttild]

You cant stick a third team in Texas, that is the Cowboys and Texans territory. Jerry Jones would never allow it and he is one of the most powerful owners like him or not. You can’t stick a team in Orlando either.

[@scotttild]

@@kiroolioneaver8532The entire state belongs to the Falcons you can’t stick another team in GA. If people really want to learn about territorial rights go read the documents in City of San Jose v. MLB. While it was regarding baseball it explains sports franchises territorial rights very well and they apply to the NFL and NBA. They list out the criteria and it’s very clear how leagues determine territory.

[@eliice1715]

San Diego and St Louis aren't getting teams back.

[@matthius1692]

Portland would be interesting. Sacramento is big enough but the problem is everyone in Sacramento is a Niner or Raider fan already. Salt Lake City could work Omaha too. St. Louis is itching to get a team back. Oakland misses their Raiders but that city is like a 3rd world country at this point it’s an economic disaster. Maybe Anaheim or San Diego. Texas could handle a 3rd team in Austin or San Antonio. Oklahoma City would work because they hate Texas and likely aren’t rooting for the Cowboys or Texans. Possibly Albuquerque but that’s a bit of a stretch. Birmingham is not that big of a city but if all of Alabama showed out for their team it could work like Wisconsin does for Green Bay. Either way they gotta expand to 8 teams so it dosent F$&@ up the division balance.

[@nickkb9191]

Bucs aren’t relocating lol

[@tornadokegan]

This is just a prediction of his. I agree with you though

[@woahbuncherz]

Yeah all we need is a new stadium

[@robfreedman6496]

Austin won't be getting a team. McNair and Jones would say no to that.

[@fakewebz1]

Unless they get a cut of a relocation fee. But the bigger hurdle is The university of Texas. They’re not losing money to the NFL. They actually stopped a preseason game from happening in their stadium for the Vikings when Red McCombs owned them.

[@shanebarnes6783]

I hope taxpayers start saying no to all these subsidies. It’s insane to give billions to billionaires and they keep all the money. See how much franchises are worth these days. Taxpayers put money in, getting nothing back.

[@chriskay1449]

Getting nothing back? They literally get the tax money from those facilities back.

[@eliice1715]

​@chriskay1449 Also tourism $

[@scotttild]

City of Oakland says hello… No they don’t always get the money back. Oakland will be paying for Mt. Davis for the next 20 years at least because they are only are paying the bare minimum of the bonds. Clark county is already having to dip into the general fund to pay for the Raiders bonds because the hotel tax shortfall. They don’t get the money back, meanwhile the Raiders value has more than doubled. Why again do these wealthy owners need tax payer money.

[@scotttild]

@@eliice1715Not enough to pay for the billions in bonds and the interest in them. The jobs argument is phony and there is only so many events to go around. The entire argument for public funds is totally bull sh*&. 49ers, Giants and Warriors all paid for their own buildings so can everyone else.

[@chriskay1449]

@@scotttild Then they are stupid for not including taaxes that put money in their coffers like very other city does.

[@panowa8319]

Oklahoma City, Birmingham, St. Louis, and San Diego.

[@thenaturalmidsouth9536]

Birmingham? Forget it. Salt Lake city.

[@jeromehoward1249]

My prediction: Jaguars stays put in Jacksonville. NUFF SAID!

[@91_C4_FL]

I don't think the NFL will lose any more smaller market teams like they did in San Diego, I think the Jags are fine.

[@Weidneriffic]

@@scotttild The Bucs would never allow that.

[@joeorsini6110]

Mine: Jags relocate to Orlando and change nickname to Thunder, which would bring the old World League team to the NFL.

[@noonerstrickland1743]

Jags aren’t leaving Jax. Khan is building a Four Seasons just south of the stadium on the river, and construction has already started.

[@williambozek5458]

Khan owns a lot of properties in Chicago and also the Jags were rumored to move to Chicago

[@josephross7936]

A Superbowl in London? Hope your ready for a daytime SuperBowl like at Noon EST

[@reekgotti3209]

I would be surprised if the Bucs moved they won 2 Super Bowls. They have a decent fan base and they have had a history of winning since the Tony Dungy era after all those bad years. The stadium just need to be remodeled its barely over 25 years old opening in 98

[@91_C4_FL]

The Bucs aren't going anywhere. The owners will try to get public funds, but they already own empty land next to the stadium for an entertainment district. I expect that and a canopy to happen when their lease is up in 2028.

[@nickk7425]

How come I never hear anyone talk about Oklahoma getting an NFL team??😊

[@deepvoicedude4749]

Too small of a market.

[@jibbjabb43]

Because as a prospect, it's low. We're like 4 years out, cities that shouldn't be picked up won't get a name drop. Truthfully, though, if they show up with a strong bid when the time comes, the NFL will almost certainly pick the next 'Jacksonville', and that coulld be OKC.

[@michaelcookston7795]

Dallas and Kansas City will not allow it has they own the Oklahoma market

[@frontiercitythrills586]

@@michaelcookston7795 Jerry Jones has never said that. A few reporters (WFAA just one of them) asked him why he never allowed for teams to be placed in the OKC and San Antonio markets? And his words were, "I have NEVER said those cities would never receive a new franchise, I love rivalries so long as it supports the NFL and the Cowboys, I`m perfectly fine with that", Barry Switzer finally told Jerry Jones to get off his *** and get after it. He told Switzer that there are 31 other NFL owners that would have to help pass it. OKC is a medium size market larger than New Orleans which has the NFL and NBA. According to Mike Florio, an NBC's ProFootballTalk insider, there are plans to expand the league to 40 by the end of the decade because you don`t need 80,000 seat stadiums anymore, look at Houston, 4th largest in the nation and NRG Stadium only seats 71,000, you would only need 55,000 - 65,000 seat stadiums because of the new massive TV contract and you only need to turn on the TV, plus, the gambling issue to bet on a play on your cellphone.

[@frankrebollar6395]

I actually saw another video that said Oklahoma would get a team. And I came up with the name the Oklahoma twisters.

[@xZOOMORPHICx]

San Diego, St. Louis, Portland, Omaha, OKC, Louisville and Austin, Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver amongst other cities are all viable options.

[@joeorsini6110]

For Montreal, that would bring the old World League nickname Machine into the NFL.

[@Dan97LHS]

San Diego and St. Louis deserve to be NFL cities again. Always felt that San Antonio and Orlando would make great NFL cities.

[@allensansone6537]

I like to see San Diego and St Louis back in the nfl

[@MarkMay-cr6bv]

How many teams does St. Louis have to lose before people realize it's not an NFL town? Worse, St, Louis stole the Cadinals from Chicago and the Rams from L.A., then whined when those teams moved on to greener pastures. Bunch of hypocrites.

[@geneseofootball1915]

​@@MarkMay-cr6bvExactly! I've said the same myself for years. F St. Louis!

[@CaptArgo24]

What is funny is that the football team Toronto has an attendance problem, yet it's the only team that wins stuff constantly compared to the other teams, and it's the cheapest team to see for a season.

[@dogcowrph]

The Bills used to play one or two games in Toronto.

[@profwaynewsmith]

Torobto would also not allow for public money to be spent on a stadium.

[@sampicano]

What about Rogers Centre and Scotiabank and BMO field? Who paid?

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

Torontonians (and to be fair Montrealers and Vancouverites though the recent successes of those teams and new ownership may change those cities relationships to their CFL teams) don't see the Argos as major league (this is particularly a problem among the youth 35 and under and in terms of people showing up to the games. The Argos still do relatively good numbers on TV outdrawing average TV audiences larger than both Toronto FC and the Raptors do in their respective regular seasons). The Blue Jays success in the early 90s and recent resurgence have really replaced the Argos as the city's summer sport. I think if there were either a) more teams in the CFL 12-16 and/or a historic inner-city rivalry within Toronto/the GTA like a Jets/Giants, that might've helped slow the decline over the past two decades and a half of the CFL in Toronto (and the major Canadian cities).

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

@@profwaynewsmith I think they could but you'd have to really justify the economic benefit for holding events (like an 70-80 000 seat stadium for a Taylor Swift Eras Tour stop) or big international soccer friendlies. I think a stadium in Downsview Park with an additional area for an adjourning arena for a second Toronto NHL team could be justified especially with the growth of the GTA over the next 10-25 years. I do think (given the boondoggle over the World Cup funding) that yes, it's going to be a lot tougher for public funds to go towards a stadium so I think it would either have to be majority private funds or 50/50 with most of the public funding in the form of tax breaks instead of direct cash.

[@slibertas1996]

Restore the American cities who have recently had their teams taken from them. St Louis, San Diego, and Oakland. Then we’ll talks about another city

[@geneseofootball1915]

Out of those 3, only SD deserves another team.

[@58twright]

Oakland will never have another nfl team

[@AndrewJohnson-fs8rh]

Depressed Ginger is bullshitting. Raymond James Stadium is one of the best NFL stadiums in the nation. The stadium hosted 3 Super Bowls and will host another one in the upcoming years. Also, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Tampa Bay Rays aren't going nor relocating anywhere. Tampa Bay has 1 #13 TV market with over 3 million people in the metropolitan area. The Glazers bought the Bucs in 1995 to stay in Tampa. The Glazers have organizations and partnerships with businesses throughout the Tampa Bay area. The Glazers invested millions of dollars in the area. The Glazers also built a state-of-the-art training facility across the street from the stadium. There will be either a renovation to the current stadium or a new stadium. There's no way the Bucs are ever leaving Tampa.

[@patrickmurphy7037]

He's never even been to Tampa.

[@91_C4_FL]

Not to mention they own that land next to One Buc that used to be a mall. I fully expect them to build an entertainment district there and give RayJay a canopy like in Miami. The Glazers will make noise to get public money, but Tampa is too valuable a market to not have an NFL team.

[@AndrewJohnson-fs8rh]

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers aren't going anywhere

[@Hankaholic]

I think Saint Louis is more likely than you think. I doubt the owners in Texas will be willing to give up market share there. If they want to expand within the US, Saint Louis has already approved funds for a stadium, they support a UFL team like it's NFL, and the surrounding teams (Chiefs, Bears) have failed to capture the moderately large market share in the absence of the Rams. A management team that doesn't intentionally tank the team could have a successful fan base in STL.

[@alexlarsen2464]

Utah has been the fastest growing state since 2010. The wasatch front has 2.6 million people and growing every day. They have great support for their nba and mls teams. They also heavily support 2 big12 universities close to each other. They just got a nhl team as well. The nfl and mlb view Utah as a good investment with such growth and fan support. I don’t think the fan support for other pro football leagues translates to potential support for a nfl team.

[@Gage_Brumley]

I just don't see the NFL ever expanding past 32 teams. 32 teams and 8 divisions of 4 is perfectly balanced.

[@YMagoulo]

Really, 17 game schedule, how balanced is that?

[@Gage_Brumley]

@@YMagoulo 17 games is kinda an awkward number for scheduling but if every team played one neutral site game that would make it a bit more straightforward. I hate how it is now where half of the teams get an extra home game each season.

[@scotttild]

@@Gage_BrumleyThey will go to 18 17 was just a stepping stone. They will get rid of two more pre season games and just go to one, then add a regular season game. I see expansion by two teams in the West someplace. I think San Diego and St Luis are most likely.

[@MichaelBias-fw8ti]

It's all about greed money money money and there is still some cities not represented by an NFL team in the United States

[@nacho9482]

Montréal all the way

[@BlazeOfGlory742]

HA!

[@joeorsini6110]

Possible nickname: Machine (bring the old World League nickname into the NFL)

[@bravefalcon1970]

Austin is three hours from Dallas and two from Houston. I don’t see this happening.

[@johnnymorawski6543]

You should do a video on MLB realignment with the expansion teams coming.

[@harryballsak1123]

Why so he can give stupid answers?

[@91_C4_FL]

Football works a lot better in FL than baseball. Idk if the Jags will get the stadium they proposed, but they're staying put. And the Glazers will cause a stink for public funds, but the Buccaneers aren't going anywhere. Expect Raymond James Stadium to get a Miami-esq renovation announcement at the end of this or next season. Their lease is up in 2028. Also, there won't be another expansion team in the US before we get one (or more) in Canada or Europe.

[@havokan45]

Reports if the NFL expands or Relacation again that St. Louis had a deal in place to be the top city on the list when the Rams left . I forget the year ESPN was talking about after the Rams left and said some group was bugging the NFL to expand

[@1999bill1999]

St. Louis didn’t keep its promises. They aren’t getting anything

[@tomatkins5579]

The chargers need to come home to San Diego

[@semicharmedlife311]

I mean, Raymond James stadium has a pirate ship. A pirate ship. But you've clowned it. 🤷‍♂

[@Gage_Brumley]

Without the pirate ship it is nearly identical to the other stadiums built at the time. Raymond James Stadium, Nissan Stadium, and Paul Brown Stadium are all very similar

[@chuckazeee]

I wonder if they will finally do like what was done in San Diego and retrofit the stadium for winter sports.

[@bigslowiain]

No one is giving an NFL team a stadium in London.

[@upf1766]

They don’t have to have an own stadium. Wembley for example isn’t used most of the time. Also I’m sure some rich owner would pay for it all if the NFL really wants a London team, the market there is so huge it would be worth it to someone.

[@mrg8581]

If London willing to pay the franchise fee, never say never.

[@richh650]

Even with the Bills only a hundred miles away, I see Toronto being the best expansion site as the local area would be a seamless transition for the other teams traveling to it.

[@williamlewis7171]

Jerry Jones and the McNairs would never allow with their pull in NFL a team being put in their backyard

[@GardcoreLegend]

The NFL will never work in Europe, mostly American fans go to the games and travel with their favorite teams, good enough to just have 1 or 2 games there a year.

[@dreamcage1801]

Europe doesn’t give a shit about the NFL

[@scotttild]

London could be possible they have sold out every game. They would need a second or third franchise over there to make it work, but I doubt players would be eager to sign with a team in Europe given the travel.

[@eliice1715]

​@@scotttildFree agents would never go there, and the London team would just be poverty.

[@scotttild]

@@eliice1715 I tend to agree it would be a hard sell to players but in theory it could work. The games in London have all sold out.

[@Rodkicks88]

Because of the CFL, I don’t see Toronto being a profitable destination due to conflict of interest with fans. I do feel like Mexico City is a dark horse for both the NBA and NFL.

[@aLbInO-dk7m]

None of yall talking about San antonio

[@dineshan]

Toronto needs a NFL. 4th largest market in North America. Mind blogging we don't have a NFL team.

[@IntellegentIdiot]

As a Canadian, it' sucks but we'll probably never get an NFL team with the way things are run here. There were rumours a while back that the Bills might move to Toronto, (back when they were shit before Josh Allen) but the government shut it down because they were worried an NFL team would take attention away from the CFL. Which is wild, because most people here watch the NFL over that garbage.

[@Db_traveler]

32 is the perfect number. 34 is too odd to make work. Relocate the one or two teams with attendance issues to Toronto, Salt Lake or wherever (not London) and don’t mess up a good thing. THEN create a neutral site (Las Vegas would have been ideal but they now have a team so St Louis???) that has just 8 games a year and have the 8 international games. This way all teams play 8 home, 8 away and 1 neutral.

[@AndrewJohnson-fs8rh]

NFL teams to possibly relocate: The Panthers leaving Charlotte The Jaguars leaving Jacksonville The Commanders leaving Washington, DC The Saints leaving New Orleans

[@58twright]

The commanders are definitely not leaving Washington & the saints are not leaving New Orleans

[@MikeyMike4018]

Just stop

[@Daily_Funnies_]

if okc can grow their downtown a little more they can make a case for

[@shawnokeefe1580]

Toronto is in Buffalos market and 30 percent of their season ticket holders are Canadian......that's a major hickup

[@WDI2008]

No different than the Washington Commanders and the Baltimore Ravens. And also two teams in New York and Los Angeles.

[@andrewsick9003]

@@WDI2008 Yeah there is a difference. One that New York and Los Angeles is bigger city than Buffalo is population. Now you can say the Baltimore and Washington maybe the same as Toronto and Buffalo. Buffalo has more Toronto got to there games. So they could lose there base and Toronto get a new stadium and Bills stay at there.

[@WDI2008]

@@andrewsick9003Well if Toronto gets an NFL team they would be placed in the NFC since the Buffalo Bills are already in the AFC.

[@RickyMatthews-b7h]

The Buffalo Bills will not relocate to Canada, and Toronto will not play in the NFL. The BIG reason is the CFL, which holds the rights to enter and play in Canada. And the money is different in ratio. In the ‘90’s The CFL had a number of Teams that were from The USA, and what bit Them in the Rear was the Baltimore Stallions played in back to back Grey Cups Lost the first one but Won the second one. That left a very bad taste in Canadians mouths for an American Team to win the Grey Cup.

[@AvroBellow]

@@WDI2008 It can't happen because of the Gentlemen's agreement between the CFL and NFL. Neither league will expand into the other league's country. The NFL has more than enough cities in the USA and they're perfectly happy not having to deal with another CFL expansion in the USA. The Canadian cities aren't valuable enough to the NFL to risk losing their football monopoly in the USA again.

[@varthelm]

If Central Texas gets a team, I could see it being based in San Antonio to start. Austin has UT. But if they do it, they'd be smart to market it to both cities as the Texas (insert mascot name here). Play in the Alamodome to start and build a new facility somewhere on the north side of SA along I-35.

[@markr7083]

We need a team in Sac fr

[@jeromehoward1249]

Why can they just resurrect NFL Europe?

[@Mr.Ed_Wayner]

Best thing for an NFL Euro wing is to play home most games during soccer international breaks. If you notice the games NFL plays at Tottenham Stadium generally during international breaks. Canada makes the most sense.

[@NW255]

doesn’t Toronto have an NBA team? I thought the Toronto raptors were a thing

[@glenmcveigh76]

Portland v Seattle would be good rivalry.

[@MarkMay-cr6bv]

Portland can't support an NFL team. It's a small town that isn't growing, and it's plagued with bad governemt, liberal politics, and is a haven for every woke thing that exists. Even the Trail Blazers aren't doing the business they once did.

[@buff444]

You always push Austin for any major league team.

[@scotttild]

They are not putting a third team in Texas he does not understand territorial rights.

[@willp.8120]

Birmingham is a good idea.

[@dwightmcconnelljr3934]

That’s one thing that the NBA does right it’s a very international sport and they capitalize on that unlike other American sports

[@sampicano]

The NHL was in Australia this year. MLB always goes global. NBA was in China a lot until they started telling NBA owners what to say...

[@dimitriberozny3729]

The UFL will end up becoming the minor league for NFL.

[@WDI2008]

San Antonio is mentioned as a candidate for an NFL Expansion team since they already have the Alamodome.

[@mrg8581]

I can't see Texans and Cowboys letting it happen though.

[@joeorsini6110]

My picks for NFL expansion teams [possible nicknames in brackets] Orlando, FL [Thunder, Storm, Renegades, Rage] Columbus, OH [Glory, Force, Splatoon] Birmingham, AL [Americans, Vulcans, Thunderbolts, Iron] St. Louis, MO [BattleHawks, Rampage, Inklings] Mexico City, MX [Aztecs, Warriors, Conquistadors] Oakland, CA (a return site for an NFL expansion team) [Invaders, Kings, Joust, Knights] San Diego, CA (a return site for an NFL expansion team) [Fleet, Destroyers] Honolulu, HI [Hawaiians, Volcanos, Heat, Rush, Pineapples, Magma] Anchorage, AK [Freeze, Coyotes, Ice] Toronto, ON, CAN (only if the Canadian Football League forces the Argonauts to fold) [Minutemen, Mounties, Argonauts {if the Canadian Football League grants the NFL permission to use that nickname}, Diamonds] Montreal, QC, CAN only if the Canadian Football League forces the Alouettes to fold) [Machine (old World League nickname), Olympians, Universe, Alouettes {if the Canadian Football League grants the NFL to use that nickname}] Dayton, OH [Flight, Drillers, Speed, Hedgehogs, Plumbers] Albuquerque, NM [Aliens, Ants, Sunbursts, Event Horizon]

[@whatchalookinathero666]

That US map with the lights at the beginning bothers me……..

[@theFORCEismyallie]

You should do a video predicting which teams would have to relocate due to climate change.

[@johnwhite5485]

32 teams is enough. That being said bring back the practice on having pre-season games in different Cities, e.g. Cardinals in Tucson/ Albuquerque, Seattle in Portland… Also set up a minor league system, like Baseball’s for the smaller markets

[@TylerJWright09]

Raymond James stadium looks Like Commonwealth Stadium in Edmonton. NFL to Edmonton!!!!

[@dawsonb6040]

remove the track, dig down and add 15,000 more seats. LFG!!

[@oppinoy]

You are so biased against the south and Florida. Have you even been to Florida or just watch videos about Florida? Tampa and Jacksonville are not bad areas and aren’t bad stadiums. Orlando is a terrible place for a team and the Camping world stadium is garbage. The Jags will play in Gainesville while they renovate. The swamp is a better stadium than the Browns/Bengals/ or Steelers stadium. It doesn’t have many luxury boxes but the Jags aren’t worried about the profits, they just want a decent field and experience for their fans. The swamp is an amazing game experience and the only downside would be the NFL fans might get spoiled by being exposed to a super loud game experience with the seats so close to the field with the seats so steep. People don’t like the Devil Ray stadium in St Pete because there is nothing around the stadium so it feels dangerous when games get out at night, since it’s isolated. They aren’t moving.

[@91_C4_FL]

DG needs to do better research and not base everything on Google images of stadiums.

[@scotttild]

its not bias, its somewhat of a fact. Sports teams in general don't draw well. Florida has too many other outdoor sports for people to enjoy which is why they have general bad attendance across the board.

[@mayquelmiranda6282]

Yes he is . This guy hates Florida

[@Blazer-RPT]

I agree I've been a NYG fan all my life and I just officially decided to have Jacksonville Jaguars has my 2nd favorite team they will forever stay in Jacksonville

[@upf1766]

I feel like the only way the NFL expands is if the sport becomes so popular that the talent pool of players becomes a lot bigger than it is rn (where it feels like most teams have a true franchise qb for example) and 32 teams just aren’t enough teams anymore. I also don’t think there’s a good way to expand if you don’t add at least another full division of 4 teams, ideally two divisions of 8 teams. Otherwise you would have to change the whole system. So if they ever expand I can maybe see two new divisions being added. One division is fully European (London, Frankfurt, Munich, Madrid, Paris, …) and the other is North American (Toronto, Austin, Salt Lake City, St. Louis, …). But that should be at least a decade away.

[@therealMLJones]

There are 790 millions reasons Saint Louis won't be getting a NFL team. Because St.Louis beat the NFL/Kroenke/Jerry Jones in court.

[@DavidKArrrrgh]

This team should move because I don’t like the stadium

[@matthewwears7610]

Jags new stadium has now been confirmed. Jacksonville Jaguars will be around for awhile deal is good thru another 30 years so that would make it 2054

[@cypher515]

Tampa being the first stadium that hosted a rain-delayed WrestleMania just seems so appropriate. Though I'm shocked it never happened in the two Orlando 'Manias and the Miami 'Mania. My motto for Florida is "Sunshine State, my ass".

[@timgude1982]

Have you ever heard such a load of garbage in your life.?? To have any of this happen, we'd need 6 to 8 Al Davis' to reincarnate.

[@LarryWeinreb]

Falcons fan from Atlanta here - there's nothing wrong with Raymond James other than it's filled with Bucs fans...it's a pretty nice place and I cannot see ever them moving. The dump in Jacksonville is another issue - narrow, dark long hallways on the concourse, a terrible food selection - just feels depressing and a roof over it is not going to solve that problem. St. Louis got screwed by one of their own when the Rams moved to LA. StL is a good town, but last time I was there it just felt like it was dying a long, slow painful death - and that's sad to say about my hometown. Toronto will never happen - the CFL has long actively fought the NFL encroachment, and with a big new stadium in Buffalo, Torontonians can make the ride there for a game. If any team does move - I think San Diego tops the list...but I dont see any teams moving anytime soon

[@bugsybogart6926]

Edward Jones Dome Stadium in St Louis has been renovated and why this guy hasn't mentioned it?

[@MarkMay-cr6bv]

St, Louis has already failed twice. Why would the NFL go back there unless it has to? St. Louis stole the Cardinals from Chicago and the Rams from LA, yet they're still whining because both teams eventually moved on to greener pastures. Hypocrites.

[@Cowboys_by_20]

@@MarkMay-cr6bvstl didn’t fail . It got completely screwed by greedy owners

[@austinstitzel]

The NFL needs to expand to 40 teams someday.

[@scottfarmer8758]

The NFL shouldn't expand again. The talent pool is diluted enough with 32 teams.

[@MarkMay-cr6bv]

Should hae stopped at 28,

[@mjc8281]

As someone that goes to the NFL games in London, indeed was there on Sunday. I think there really is zero chance of a SuperBowl coming to London, maybe I will have to eat my words!!! But I doubt it, as you mention the time-zone is an issue not least of all because Wembley has an 11pm curfew for events... a Superbowl you are talking about 1.30 local finish time and unlike American sports venues that largely have significant parking, stadiums in London don't, you require public transport to get away from the area.. all of which finishes by midnight. The logistical nightmare of physically hosting the event, before all the other issues makes it a real non-starter... Now a team, if it was me and I was setting it up I would twin up 4 cities in Europe with 4 in North America, play half the games between the two venues, yes I know that isn't a huge increase from what happens now with JAX playing twice a year. However, it would allow a start of revelries to develop between the "European teams" it would massively cut down on the travel time(as half the "home" games would still be in North America)and it would allow the league to test the waters for franchise locations going forward.

[@brianstacey2679]

There is zero evidence or indication that the Bucs would move. This channel just flat made that up. St. Louis has been tried twice and failed twice. The owners have dismissed London or any overseas markets for franchises because it would be nearly impossible to make money due to various issues. Toronto has shown zero desire for NFL football. Try again.

[@zachellenburg5738]

Actually, there’s been plenty of signs pointing towards a move for the Bucs.

[@scotttild]

It’s possible not likely.

[@Gage_Brumley]

Both times St Louis was completely fucked over by owners who didn't care about the city. I think if you can create an expansion team with local owners who are invested in the city St Louis will support an NFL team

[@Domino762]

Canada literally has their own football league. I don't think they need an NFL team

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

The CFL is actually relatively weak in the biggest markets (i.e. Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver) it's actually the smaller markets like Hamilton, Winnipeg, and Saskatchewan and the two Alberta teams that make the league tick lol Also the Super Bowl has now surpassed the Grey Cup as the most watched TV programme annually in Canada.

[@scotttild]

CLF and NFL have a non compete agreement, NFL is not expanding in Canada as long as the CFL is around.

[@coryray8804]

Why does no one support the C F L in Canada . Stands are empty every game . Sad ?

[@91_C4_FL]

I think the CFL and UFL merge and one or two CLF teams go to the NFL.

[@adellis24]

Because Canada invented Football.

[@josephross7936]

Dont know why they redo NFL Europe before thinking adding. Just 12 team NFL spring

[@ThisIsMYStoryAS]

New York only has one football team.

[@Ballaholic17]

I wonder about Mexico or Canada as being 2 reasonable locations that could easily be added to the expansion team list.

[@richardforscutt1063]

Would it be possible if the A's wind up in Las Vegas if Oakland built new stadium where the Coliseum is for football . If they don't get the Raiders back, then to try to get an expansion team.

[@DeadBoy665]

Expansion to cities that are over 5 million would be great and the NFL did try to expand into Europe it was called the world league there were 16s.

[@davidmealy1499]

I think by 2050 nfl has 40 teams a euro division London, Barcelona, Amsterdam and Munich. Then 4 north America teams Toronto, Mexico city, st. Louis, chargers move back to San Diego perhaps the jaguars come back as an expansion team and salt lake

[@coryray8804]

Never happen in Toronto Canada they are struggling to support their C F L team in a small High School stadium . Stands are empty in a stadium that holds only 20,000 seats . Forget the NFL no support here at all .

[@adellis24]

That is one of the most asinine statements I have ever read as it has zero basis in objective reality. You clearly don't understand the Toronto market because there is a massive level of NFL support, it would thrive in that city.

[@mahall85]

The Bucs aren’t leaving, dude. And the Rays likely didn’t move to Tampa proper, because the lease for Raymond James Stadium is up at around the same time as the lease for Tropicana Field.

[@-OAK-]

OKC is top 5 on every list I’ve seen, idk what kind of list you used but it was pretty bad

[@mase747]

The Bucs aren’t moving lol. The stadium has its charm. I could see Tampa building a new stadium down the road but still don’t see it

[@allanburton8115]

San Antonio should get a team. They did have one before albeit it was the W.L.A.F. (World League of American Football) in the early 90's. The "Riders". Same story in Sacramento with the "Surge".

[@DanielDavid1219]

Didn’t the Canadian government pass some laws protecting the CFL?

[@profwaynewsmith]

Always funny that billionaires need tax payer money 💰 but ask them to pay a few extra bucks to support poor folks and it is welfare, boot straps and other versions of no way.

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

Also wealth re-distrubution in the form of revenue sharing. Socalism for the rich, captialism for the poor lol

[@eleakielp.5774]

No chance that Jerry Jones allows another NFL team in Texas.

[@scotttild]

Exactly and Texas belongs to the Cowboys and Texans equally. If I am not mistaken both teams broadcast local games throughout the entire state, they both have cultivated and developed the areas outside Dallas and Houston, both have a presence in the rest of the state. That’s the criteria.

[@patrickmurphy7037]

He's 81.

[@Gage_Brumley]

Which is a shame because San Antonio is definitely big enough to be an NFL city

[@scotttild]

@@patrickmurphy7037But his sons own the team as well and the Cowboys are a powerful organization in terms of ownership pull. They are never going to allow another team in Texas, and I doubt the NFL is even going to consider if. MLB and the O’s are still fighting over moving the Expos into DC. There is also good case law preventing the NFL from moving into Texas.

[@deepvoicedude4749]

He allowed the Texans in 2002.

[@joeespin4377]

if you want a london team why not the one in onterio, canada unless its too small

[@Zooby2011]

Utah should get a team

[@PolecanePC]

They should just make European wing/division. And for anyone complaining let me tell ya one thing. It's not like NFL teams have many games in regular season. Ain't it just 17? My understanding is that team needs to play twice against division rivals. So you make Euro division have 6 teams, or even make two divisions with 4 teams each. Pretty sure that those cities could hande teams: London, Paris, Madrid, Stockholm, Munich, and maybe Berlin or Frankfurt (Germans are rich and they seem to like NFL so more teams for them). Can consider Poland to with amazing stadiums in Warsaw, Wroclaw, and 3City, would be nice for Poland to get one team. That would mean that even 12 games could be 'out' from schedule for American Teams, so less complaining about traveling. Then you basically make some 'rotation' system because obviously European teams would want NFL teams coming in, but they also need to travel to US as well. So for current 17 games in regular season, how about adding one to make it 18. So as I mentioned 12 will be already out, then 3 would be played by Euro teams in US, and each of European teams will welcome 3 American teams. Would love to see a detailed video about it, and your take on the case.

[@advancedguard8868]

I absolutely hate and am annoyed by the whole "London Jaguars" talk.

[@kjorlaug1]

You forgot the most obvious relocation candidate: Chargers. They won't be in LA permanently. They'll either go back to San Diego or get lured to another market for their own stadium.

[@91_C4_FL]

I wish they'd go back to SD. LA hates football. And the Raiders are still more of an LA team than the Rams.

[@Scott-vk4jv]

Some major obstacles need to be addressed. SD better put up a $1B in public subsidies and hope Spanos sells to someone who wants to move there. For now they’re locked into a contract for a long time.

[@91_C4_FL]

@@Scott-vk4jv Agreed, the Chargers back in SD won't happen under the Spanos regime. But I doubt any NFL teams will share a stadium by the end of the 2030s.

[@Gage_Brumley]

Chargers are staying put in LA as long as SoFi continues to be a top tier stadium, which it definitely will be for a very long time. Kinda BS they left San Diego in the first place but for now it makes financial sense to stay in LA

[@91_C4_FL]

@@Gage_Brumley Ehhhh, I really feel like SoFi is going to age like MetLife. Seems crazy now, but we'll see in 10 years...

[@darrellrublee]

NFL team in Toronto playing NFL rules or CFL rules? Canadians are pretty passionate about their football rules, I doubt NFL would work in Canada.

[@jracer7189]

Not gonna happen in London not to mention that it would always be second fiddle to soccer

[@Aggie4life77]

I think Toronto is a good one and maybe Mexico City. Austin and San Antonio are only like an hour apart. I can see them putting a team in far south Austin or Far North San Antonio. That way it would basically serve both. With that said, that area is known as Dallas Cowboy territory. The last team could go to SLC. The Chargers need to eventually go back to San Diego!!

[@soulja7071986]

1. San Antonio, Texas 2. San Diego, CA 3. Austin, TX 4. Ft. Worth, TX 5. San Jose, CA 6. Columbus, OH 7. Oklahoma City, OK 8. El Paso, TX

[@JEMtheEASGuy2024]

The teams I would add New Jersey Giants (New York Giants) Columbus Tigers Orlando Planes Toronto Leafs Montreal Raptors San Diego Chargers

[@zachabel74]

tampa isn’t leaving and i know the LA market financial is huge but the rams and chargers especially have zero fans and should go back

[@martyenglishiii5099]

I don’t see an NFL team in Canada because of the CFL