Predicting the Next Smash Bros. Game

[@williewillikers9631]

Honestly, I'd love a complete "subspace emissary 2" spinoff

[@JRENZO10]

Yeah that'd be cool

[@DerGetrollte]

rather have a smash bros movie with plot than a half ass story mode

[@PopcornBunni]

Great Maze as an entire mode on its own

[@fatmario8244]

Dude that makes sense

[@derek9511]

If the focus wasn't going to be on pvp I'd want different mechanics though, the way platforming and combat work can get pretty frustrating in doing actual platforming levels since they're tuned around pvp

[@jalapenoofjustice4682]

I think the main issue with a "ultimate deluxe" is that it would be a licensing nightmare. Sakurai *barely* managed to get the base roster at launch, and now they'd have to renegotiate all the DLC characters on top of that. I'm not an expert on this stuff but I think that sort of thing is a bit easier to do when the third-party stuff is in its own DLC package

[@jaybee27D]

they could just not even call it ultimate deluxe. just say it’s a port of ultimate to the new console, not a new game. surely that wouldn’t be too tricky for their contracts, no?

[@benjaminchi1989]

​@@jaybee27Dkinda depends on what's in the contracts

[@jayandjlps8022]

You know they can request the license for these characters for a set number of years, right?

[@GhengizKanye]

​@@jaybee27Deven just porting it i think theyd still have to renegotiate licenses. Idk how much trouble theyd have aside from square enix characters though everyone else seemed to be really on board with the project.

[@Logan17258]

I think it would be easier for Sakurai to get the characters again, because of how amazing smash ultimate performed, it has sold more than 30 million copies. Smash 4 was a different story cause it was on a shit console, but now that the companies have seen how well smash sold on switch? They'll probably be more keen to be involved again, even if they were hesitant prior to ultimate's release.

[@ebasongaming]

Someone else might have mentioned this already, but a good example of what 3D Smash could look like is Kid Icarus Uprising's multiplayer mode. They actually manage to make a good multi-player platform fighter game. It's a shooter, but also has close combat. Not sure if Mr. Sakurai would be up to do it again, but it's how I realistically see it working best.

[@tjh6678]

It does the heart good hearing others talk about the potential of a 3D Smash. (And a new artstyle, I'm thinking comic-esque with cel-shading) The idea's been in the back of my head since I was 11 during that post Brawl / pre-SSB4 period, tho I've always pictured a game in the vein of Power Stone. ...Or Shrek SuperSlam.

[@hunterkeps9058]

@@tjh6678 I made a prototype of a 3D Smash game a while back and it could totally work! I'd love to see how Nintendo does it

[@unskilledgamer3642]

@@tjh6678 there is a Steam game made by Hi-Rez called Divine Knock-Out which is basically like a 3D Smash Bros. The game itself is bad because it's very pay to win and also has some technical problem but if Nintendo would do a game similar to that it could turn out great.

[@aboxyguy]

glad im not the only one who got a similar vibes from that game. they even implement the whole forward/side/back attacks having unique properties from one another. if not a smash reboot id love to see it refined in a KI remake

[@fox.4214]

But how does G&W transfer into a 3D smash?

[@andy-opia4306]

I think option 3 would be the best. The movesets of the legacy characters are kind of unimaginative. A new moveset on 30-40 characters would be a breath of fresh air!

[@pandora5051]

especially characters like Mario or Sonic

[@ohmygardner]

Samus definetely needs an upgrade 😂

[@LucarioShirona]

@@pandora5051 Sonic? Yes. Mario? That's a trickier case...

[@poggersuni9637]

So do what Killer Instinct 2013 did?

[@BrandonWhatTheF]

Ganondorf needs it more than anyone else. He's been bottom tier for 3 smash games. He's been the worst character for 2 of those.

[@omegakrome3931]

I’ve always thought the next smash game should be a reboot with newly designed characters and I really hope that’s what it ends up being.

[@KingTruffles]

I’ll gladly take a game with like 20 characters if that meant each character had updated movesets and actual alternates instead of just color swaps

[@bradshacalypse]

I have a feeling we've already gotten a glimpse of Smash Bros' future with the trend set by several of the later added characters. If you notice, most of them play closer to how they do in their own games, as opposed to being shoehorned into the rigid Smash Bros formula started with the first one on N64. For example, Ryu, Ken, Terry, and Kazuya play like actual fighting game characters would (auto-facing opponents, utilizing button combos etc.), The Inklings' move set revolves heavily around their unique ink-splattering mechanic, Steve places blocks just like in Minecraft, etc. A lot of them have unique mechanics that fly in the face of established Smash Bros convention to more closely match how they play in their own games. This leads me to believe that the developers were already thinking of ways to change up the formula long before the conclusion of Ultimate. I think whatever form Smash Bros takes in the future, it'll have something to do with upending the established formula altogether to have each character play as close to how they play in their own games as possible. That way, they can start anew with fewer characters and the game still feel fresh, as I can't see them adding to Ultimate, the sheer amount of content in that game is already mind-boggling as it is, any more would just be too much.

[@killaknight12]

I would love that. Characters like Ganondorf deserve more love and especially with TotK it'd be the perfect opportunity to fully redesign him. Fewer characters, but designing them closer to their games would make it feel fresh again.

[@egg_lord_gaming9]

Okay but they could at least add a few more Sonic characters as well.

[@shortfuse9443]

Just want a plot with voice acting. I need to see these guys properly interact with each other

[@nightwingmix1]

Subspace 2

[@TrueTrickster2016]

Leaks are gonna ruin it

[@AlinaAniretake]

I don't agree with you. Visual way of story telling, is in my opinion, more interesting way of story telling, instead of classic Dialogue story telling. Especially when majority of your characters don't talk

[@JRENZO10]

That'd be amazing

[@GhengizKanye]

"Wahoo!" "Hyah" "pikapika" "falcon punch" its like reading a clive cussler novel

[@kyrenity]

Knowing Nintendo, it'd probably be an SSB Deluxe. Though your idea of changing up the genre made me think of what if we got a Smash Bros that was fully just a platformer like the Subspace Emissary, but actually taking you through Nintendo-themed areas.

[@MATTKLAND77]

YESSS KINDA LIKE SUPER NINTENDO LAND MIXED WITH SMASH BROS

[@juanrodriguez9971]

Considering how Iwata "menaced" Sakurai by sayig they were going to port Melee to Wii if there wasn't going to be a new game I would say the decision was taken a long time ago. SSBUD will be real, or not, because 3rd parties will make it painful, specially Square.

[@albertthepeacock8020]

Sakurai:Best I can do is Fire Emblem themed base stages

[@kyrenity]

@@albertthepeacock8020 Would love a SSB game with zero Fire Emblem.

[@superplushtiman7ti075]

I’d probably have that as it’s own thing

[@Patolagos]

Honestly, I feel like they're gonna reboot the franchise. I'd actually like to see that, because the characters could now actually have a chance of having moves that represent the modern state of their franchises.

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

This: If it's not a port, it will most likely be a reboot.

[@sinsaydoes8816]

kid icarus moveset: *nonexistent*

[@corbinbelle8082]

I actually think a lot of your ideas are pretty good for the most part. There are just so many ideas that honestly, who knows what they can do.

[@hatsterhatsmin8539]

If there was ever a new smash bros with a unique artstyle, I’d absolutely adore it if they went for the style that Smash 64’s 2d art went with

[@spaceace9103]

Would be so cool if they went with a low poly style. Would also help more mature characters look right next to the goofier ones

[@TrueBruceTube]

What if it was pixel art like Rivals or SSF2?

[@hatsterhatsmin8539]

@@TrueBruceTube Eh, we don't have enough handrawn games imo, I'd rather them do 2d art or use 3d models with shaders to mimic the effect at least

[@Piggles64099]

It would be really cool if they made the art style similar to that of the toon link series or borderlands. That art style is timeless

[@user-iw3qe2iz1o]

Art style is good already in my opinion

[@ggnicklu]

The humor in this one is FANTASTIC You are a godsend Alax bless you

[@henrytarrant2866]

A KZbin video has not made me laugh like this one in some time

[@Ibaraki_DX]

BABA IS APPROVE

[@ggnicklu]

@@Ibaraki_DX Ibaraki is based

[@heckr0125]

I really like the idea of a new art style. Brawl kinda did that by making everyone look dark and gritty. But it’d be cool to see it look like Mario strikers charged or a completely different theme. I love how streetfighter 4s theme looks or how MvC 3 looks. Doing something like that would really grab everyone’s attention and get old fans to comeback and have a new interesting experience.

[@mudachaproductions]

My thought for a new Smash game would be, instead of a lot of companies lending a few characters, how about a few companies lending a lot of characters? Something along the lines of Project X Zone 2, but as a Smash game. That way it's still possible to have a big roster of varied and fan favourite characters (Especially if we take PXZ2 as precedent with Nintendo, Bandai Namco, Capcom and Sega), without the same amount of legal gymnastics that Ultimate managed to pull off.

[@palmshoes]

would die for a nintendo vs capcom, especially if it’s a completely fresh take on nintendo characters in a fighting game. and also i need more darkstalkers rep in something im DYING

[@BinglesP]

Yeah, like, if I made a crossover (fan)game, I would make sequels with more characters from franchises that are already represented, then ones from entirely new universes. Then again, most of my hyperfixations are cartoons/games that have way too many individual characters, so that’s probably just from my perspective.

[@tdproductions7532]

I predict that it'll most likely be Future 1, but the game will actually be called *Super Smash Bros. Ultimate: Definitive Edition* -Sakurai will be supervising the project, but will no longer be the lead. Someone new that Sakurai will appoint will be leading the project while also being obviously supervised from a distance by Sakurai. - Will add the missing stages from Ultimate as well as compartmentalize them by the game they first appeared in (64, Melee, Brawl, Wii U, 3DS and Ultimate) - Some characters will have overhauls in either design or moveset (For example, I think Ganondorf will take his ToTK appearance, I think Sonic will have a reworked moveset taking inspiration from Frontiers and Mania, etc.) - Smash Run will return. - Trophies are back (Most though will be recycled from Wii U) -New Waves of DLC Fighters a la how MK8 Deluxe is doing it rn. - New Echo Fighters (For example, Dixie Kong as an Echo for Diddy, Shadow for Sonic, etc.) - (Hopefully) Better Online - Performance and Graphics Enhancements

[@jayandjlps8022]

And also slightly change the physics so the game still feels new to play

[@unskilledgamer3642]

all those things sound like wishful fan thinking, I don't believe a game like that will happen.

[@tdproductions7532]

@unskilledgamer3642 Eh, for me, it's just fun to speculate. If I get it wrong, cool. If I get it right, cool. No harm, no foul.

[@Saben.C-Spoon]

I don't think you can give only Sonic a rework, I think he's far from the only character in need of one, like Samus or Ganon, who you mentioned. But honestly I think most of the legacy roster is only a couple special moves or reanimations from being good. Give DK a barrel cannon up b and make kong kopter into side b, and tweak his facial expressions to be less angry all the time and he will be good, for example

[@tdproductions7532]

@saben.cspoon4106 I guess what I meant was some moves added from Frontiers or Mania. Perhaps the Drop Dash by holding Down and B after jumping and a Quick Cyloop as the new Side B? Maybe even changing some animations for his standard one-two hit combo to be more in line with Frontiers, idk- I can only speculate. I agree many more need some changes, Sonic was just the one that came to mind to me. Maybe that'd be more plausible. But yeah, agreed!

[@I.Am.Terrible.At.Usernames]

I like the ideas of the next Smash being focused on game modes more than characters. I'd love to see how far than can take game modes and how creative they can get. Imagine racing 40 other players in a target test to see who finishes theirs first, imagine 16 player smash, or a game mode like board the platforms with 8 players all racing ti the top of the stage. They could have team modes too, like king of the hill, where your team has to stay in the designated area of the map for linger than the other team, or a splatoon like game mode where your attacks cover the ground and you have to try control the most space when the timer runs out. You could maybe have a Fall Guys esque online mode, where you cycle through a handful of different modes and games with players being eliminated each round, ending in a 1v1 match. Heck, I'd even take a live service aslong as it wasn't scummy with microtransactions, where they release new characters, skins and stages each season that you can earn through playing the game and completing missions online, or just using in-game currency. Although make it easy to grind for, even let players grind locally or by doing things like Classic mode. And keep all characters and skins in the store permanently so you can buy whatever you want as soon as you save up, most games have the stupid store cycle system to create demand for the items and to try persuade players to spend IRL money to buy currency. Although wishful thinking, unfortunately theyd likely make it scummy like other live service games. I just figured this way, even if the roster starts off much smaller (say 30/40 characters) you could slowly buimd the roster up more and more over time through seasonal updates. The possibilities could be endless!!!

[@syweb2]

The mode-centric idea is really cool, but having it as a live service would _actually_ be awful. "Games as a service" is a PLAGUE upon the industry. Just let all of the content be in at launch or have extras in distinct optional DLCs so I don't have to pay for the game repeatedly.

[@TheSultan1470]

​@@syweb2 How would you pay for the game repeatedly?

[@tzatx7136]

They could also have a capture the flag sort of mode

[@solidskullz5736]

If they make another smash’s bros game. They better fix Sonic’s moveset because they have no excuse now lol

[@MacenW]

What do you mean? The fact half of his moves make him a ball?

[@Scroteydada]

I like it when he turns into a blue circle

[@jinjer420]

Look at Sonic Frontiers. Sonic actually has moves in that game. The next game could mix some of his spins with kicks to hand a better move set.

[@elemomnialpha]

Unless Sega themselves set those limitations

[@Morbius-Tension]

@@jinjer420 well sakurai played frontiers and liked it so well see

[@TripleSakaTrip]

This one felt so nostalgic of classic Alax, keep up the good work as always!

[@jeremiahhester6408]

I really want a storymode. But a reboot would be nice.

[@maxuwl]

storymode with less characters is way easier to do you know?

[@jeremiahhester6408]

@@maxuwl I'm down with that!

[@HawaiianHercules]

A reboot with a focused story mode would be my favorite!

[@realkingofantarctica]

As long as the toaster from Hotel Mario is an item, and does critical damage in water, I'll be satisfied.

[@_mikut]

I'm personally on team Smash Reboot, but the base roster should be the Smash 64 roster as those I feel are forever mainstays in Smash at this point.

[@sandjgaez257]

Not only would it be WAY too small for a modern game (*especially* coming off of Ultimate), just having the roster for Smash 64 would cut out mainstay characters. You can’t tell me that Marth, Zelda, Pit, or freaking BOWSER and PEACH won’t be in the next Smash game. Sure, you can have the Smash 64 roster as the starting roster before you unlock the other characters-which Ultimate already does-but the game being limited to JUST those characters, even with plenty more being promised for the future, wouldn’t work.

[@_mikut]

@@sandjgaez257 "Sure, you can have the Smash 64 roster as the starting roster before you unlock the other characters" That's what I meant by base roster, the original 12 are mainstays in Smash and should be the starting base roster, always. I think a reasonable size for a Smash reboot roster would be to have a Melee or Brawl sized roster again.

[@ThatGuyLegend]

​@Joakim Skjerpingstad I would like to see them add some characters that didn't quite make the cut also, like a waluigi or Eggman

[@Off-colorsign]

@@ThatGuyLegend bandana waddle dee fans deserve a chance

[@ThatGuyLegend]

@@Off-colorsign I agree

[@Alxinho959]

Here are the unrealistic things I would like to see in Smash 6: Game modes: Subspace Emissary 2 Classic Mode All Star MultiMan Smash Break the targets! Board the Platforms Target Blast Home Run Contest Tournament mode Master Orders Crazy Orders Smash Tour Smash Run Squad Strike Special Smash Smashdown Stage Builder New Training Mode with DI/SDI features and Hazards OFF New Characters: Conker Crash Rayman Goemon Waluigi Toad Geno Paper Mario Shantae Ryu Hayabusa New Pokémon New Fire Emblem Rex Aegis Sheilda Zamus Impa Bandana Dee Tails Knuckles Dr. Eggman Alph Spyro Lloyd Isaac Dante Bomberman Chibi Robo Krystal Monster Hunter 2B Arle Doomguy Master Chief Lara Travis Online: 1.- Rollback Netcode and an option to filter out low ping connections. 2.- Ranked mode with proper tournament rules (Best of 5, stage strikes, bans, etc.) 3.- Being able to choose Hazards Off legal stages for Quickplay. 4.- Squad Strike playable with anyone not just with friends. 5.- Random only Squad Strike. 5.- Good ruleset for Co-op Doubles (Team Attack ON, Hazards OFF Legal Stages, etc.) 6.- Allow friends to play Doubles with you on different consoles. 5.- Random only mode where both you and the opponent can only choose random. 6.- Double Elimination bracket best of 1 tournament mode. 7.- Filtered Spectate mode. All these changes apply to Doubles too. Changes to Battle Arenas: a) Allow changing character/stage without having to go to the back of the line. b) Anyone can spectate even if they join the arena after the match has started. c) Allow multiple matches in the same arena. d) Tourney mode in arenas. Miscellanous changes: * Stock mode becomes default * Abolish Sudden Death for Timeouts, make it so the player with the lowest percent gets the victory screen, in case of a true tie the player with lowest percent at the moment of the tie wins, if they had the same percent and decimal, the player who dealt the most percent wins, if it’s still even the player who spent less time airborne wins. * Increase taunt duration like in previous games * Not having to pick character after every battle * Saved favorite alternate costumes like in Smash 3DS * More than 8 alts per character but not having to be a consistent number, some characters can have more than others, it’s fine * Bring back C-Stick Menu rotation * Hold A and B for salty runback, A, B and L for runback on a different stage.

[@Hoshiguru]

super smash bros maker: make your own character

[@Matthew-xo2mh]

Mii fighters say hi

[@HIIMROSS777]

I think a reboot is very likely. I have been saying for a while now that I think the smash roster should be cut in half for the next game. There is just so many characters in Ultimate that feel like they didn't get enough love because the roster is so large. A smaller roster with a focus on well designed characters with more depth would do wonders for the game.

[@RainSpitter]

I don't think is has impossible has people imagine. What I would do is the following: 1-Have Sakurai in a supervising or overseeing role where he advises and keeps tags on the game instead of having him worked himself to death. 2-Raise the budget for Smash. Sakurai has been very cost efficient with Smash and he has kept a tight budget. 3-Drop all third parties and make sure every Nintendo character returns. "Every Nintendo Character is here" 4-Make sure the character roster is above 100. 5-Change move sets of all echoes to differentiate from based character like have Daisy use the slaps and throws from Peach in brawl. 6-Bring back the missing stages that were not in Ultimate. 7-Character variations example Samus, Fusion Samus, Classic Samus, Brawl Samus (with transformation for ZSS) and Dread Samus. 8-Revamp Stage creator by combining Brawls and ultimate stage creator and make a goal system for 1p challenges for shared contend. 9-Make your own Spirit matches for shared content. 10-New story mode. 11-Arcade adventure mode from melee. 12-If the game is a hit then proceed to negotiate with third parties to bring back third party characters. 13-Make Returning characters Pass, a Echoes Pass and a new Character Pass. And try to have a steady stream of characters releases for a full year. Or just do a characters pass for ultimate after TotK launches.

[@user-qd6zg1nd5b]

This is a great idea seriously 👍

[@thomasooop]

Yeah

[@Euanverse]

What I want the most Is a new subspace esque story mode. With a reduced roster, it could be easier to implement instead of including like 100 characters. Also that DK minecart clip will be in every video till the end of time.

[@Gaudimann]

I hope they give Daisy the Luigi-Echo-Treatment and make her more unique in the next game. Since Luigi got his own Side-B, Down-B, different Fireball and Up-B effect. Even if she would be low tier after that, I would play her!

[@Maroon33]

Lets hope shes even gonna be in the next game

[@tjh6678]

You & me both, brother or sister. Most of the moves she borrowed from Peach, she's never done before or since.

[@DrunkedOwly]

The one I think needs it the most is Dark Samus, Metroid had to wait 4 games to get a tiny bit more representation and the franchise really could use some more characters

[@MarcusGronkowski]

@@DrunkedOwly if anyone needs more representation, it’s Sonic. They could’ve easily added Shadow or Knuckles as Sonic’s echo fighter.

[@DrunkedOwly]

@@MarcusGronkowski I mean, you're right, but I want metroid rep more bgl

[@necro-esque666]

I think there could be a casual 3D fighter, Power Stone did a pretty good job of that like 20 years ago

[@Ldforthetree]

Alax redefining the Simpsons couch gag

[@aedaniammx7559]

My favorite idea that I forget if I came up with or stole was a mechanic somewhat similar to Fire Emblem support conversations, where you just pick two characters and they have a single casual conversation. Like the rest of the game probably doesn’t effect it much, but that kind of character interaction is something we couldn’t get from even the most ambitious story mode, even if some would be jokes (I.e. two Links)

[@RamiCrafy]

Characters I want them to add to the next game: Jeff (From earthbound, as a playable character and not an assist trophy) Bomberman Waluigi (This one was obvious Kumatora (From Mother 3) Paper Mario (Maybe that would be an interesting fighter? Sorta like Mr Game & Watch) Waddle Dee (From Kirby) Minda and Skull Kid (From TLOZ, but as playable characters instead of assist trophies) Kamek or Koopa Troopa (Also with a dry bones recolor for Koopa Troopa) I ran out of ideas, but those are some characters that I'd like to see in the next game

[@Albert.Ghazalian]

I have thought that the next Smash could be a reboot to the original N64 version but completely rework the character’s movesets and polish the visuals. You and I have a similar idea for future 3. Future 2 would be awesome, too!

[@DrunkedOwly]

It'd need more characters tho, a fighting game in 2023 with 8 characters would be laughable

[@BitchChill]

​@@DrunkedOwlyYeah that's not going to fly ahd understandably so

[@boygame1955]

Imagine a new Smash Run but in HD, with 1000 songs, new enemies to KO, & Final fight having a chance for a Boss Battle. I really want them to bring back Smash Run. But there's no touch screen how you choose power-ups like Super Armor or Star Storm? Simple use the D-pad to select your power. Press ^ to to use power. Meaning that taunts are disabled during Smash Run. Not your using taunts during that mode anyway. Also similar idea was already done in Kid Icarus Uprising.

[@briochebananabread]

I would love if Kirby could use a different ability than final cutter when High Jump and Tornado are RIGHT THERE Edit: also can mario throw turnips too? And the propeller mushroom is also *RIGHT THERE* (Seriously there is one too many vertical power ups in Mario for him to have "super jump punch" as his recovery...)

[@vegetables1593]

Many people say in a new Smash game, they want a lot of character's movesets updated, and I mostly agree. Characters from 64, Melee, and even some from Brawl (SONIC), could use complete revamps to better reflect who they are now (Ganondorf, Kirby, and Donkey Kong to name a few prime examples). I think most characters from Smash 4 and Ultimate (Greninja, Steve, and Villager, for example) don't need a moveset revamp and could go with maybe just having a special move or final smash change. The echos should also be given more distinct movesets should they return (and they should, it's a good concept).

[@Arcade278]

In all honesty i would like to see a smash bros "movie" where everyone interacts with each other. But looking at all the ip's smash bros partnered up with , that movie would be HELLA expensive.

[@syweb2]

Do you mean like an actual _movie_ movie, or a game with a lot of cinematics? Because I think one would be _much_ worse than the other.

[@Arcade278]

@@syweb2 ether one is fine as long as it fills my fanatic needs. almost like subspace

[@ariwl1]

As someone who loves Smash but is in no way competitive, option 3 is what I've been hoping would happen for years. Getting the entire current roster back would be possible but also possibly more work then they want at this point. Trimming the cast down to Nintendo's core essentials (and no echoes) with a few offbeat additions and then completely reworking them from their previous incarnations could be loads of fun. And many of those characters have long been hampered by early design choices that kept being carried over out of some strange combo of tradition, laziness, and ease of development. Giving everyone a fresh start could breathe some new life into the series.

[@Sircrapalot7696]

Was mega hyped for the return, actually kinda wasn’t vibing with the new videos (kinda) but then this one came along. Totally knocked it outta the park for me, comedy was really on point, and the topics were interesting and engaging 👍

[@surprised_pessimist]

I like the idea of a soft reboot where, in general, everything feels and looks the same but with an all new roster. Existing franchises in smash get new characters to represent them and only the best stages carry over. Newer IPs in smash may carry over with the same character(s) representing them to provide some connection to ultimate as well as some recognizability while still keeping things new.

[@stormRed]

I think there's also a possibility for a rebooted roster with legacy versions of the characters included so people can still use their old mains and so on.

[@littlebigb5370]

If it were my call, they'd go the Mario Kart DLC Wave route of, "Expecting a new game? Here's a bunch of new stuff in this game you thought was dead." And I don't mean a 20+ new playable characters with matching stages and Subspace Emissary 2; but if they just dropped in a new and improved online Smash Run and maybe, MAYBE a new character wave of heavily requested characters with a rework or two, and I'd be happy!

[@Connorcollects94]

I appreciate the amount of content you've put out lately Alax. Keep up the good work!

[@Rojo7500]

I think the Deluxe and the Reboot are both possible. The Switch 2 would probably want a newish smash game and just adding more to ultimate and polishing it up would be great. And a good reboot, cutting down the roster, fixing up the movesets, and adding more to the formula would be great much later down the line. Also Bandana Waddle Dee would be amazing i would explode. Cool DK Sound at 5:27

[@MerelyAFan]

I'd be down for a Smash sequel that greatly emphasized customization of all types. Far deeper Mii creation, much more detailed stage maker, user generated Break the Targets/Board the Platforms, and the real major canvas; create your own Spirit Battles and World of Light Campaigns.

[@aaronrivera2511]

Shrek Superslam is the perfect example on what Future 2 could look like.

[@BraxtonKovary]

Imagine they make a Deluxe version of Ultimate and call it a day

[@italolxd3128]

I'd love that so they could probably work on DLC and extend the game.

[@xProErax]

From the past, we can tell that Nintendo was planning to just make melee on the Wii if sakurai didn't come back. So if he really is never going to come back to the series, I can easily see it going either the updated version of Smash Ultimate or have the series under new management and possibly have a new direction. Either way I would love to see what they do next!

[@gechoman44iwantahippo]

They set the expectations too high for the next game to not bring back a large majority of the roster. The only characters I see them cutting are the ones that they can’t gets the right back for.

[@aneudireyes1055]

Character creation would be awesome for a new smash. If we could earn something from these battles to buy numerous accessories and clothing on a avatar we create would be really cool also! Connecting with who we are fighting with is another thing too, I would love to be able to have some type of conversation on the game to connect with others. With that we could also do mini games with friends and other online players similar to the story mode gameplay from ssbb? Getting to create a banner of you’re own where you’re health percentage stays.

[@SeanWheeler100]

Smash has Mii Fighters.

[@aneudireyes1055]

@@SeanWheeler100 I know, but in my opinion, it’s nothing exciting. I’m talking about a full on new character creation design that’s not half azz

[@SeanWheeler100]

@@aneudireyes1055 Maybe they can improve on the Mii Fighters? Maybe even add a Mii Mage and Mii Archer?

[@thecartoon1st259]

Honestly I think the third option would be best suited as a Smash 64 or Melee remake, since those two have small enough rosters to make each character have entirely unique movesets, plus it makes the pipe dream feel less unlikely

[@jacobchang7165]

There will be no "Adventure Mode" for this game (due to the number of playable characters). There are 9 unlockable characters (in total). This is how you unlock them: Unlock Waluigi - Complete the 100 Man Smash or play 9 VS. Mode matches. Unlock Aryll - Complete Classic in 20 minutes or less or play 18 VS. Mode matches. Unlock Meowth - Complete Classic with any character or play 27 VS. Mode matches. Unlock Mew - Complete Classic on Normal with 3 stocks and no continues or play 36 VS. Mode matches. Unlock Riolu - Complete Classic with 10 different characters or play 45 VS. Mode matches. Unlock Medusa - Complete Classic with 20 different characters or play 54 VS. Mode matches. Unlock Viridi - Defeat at least 1 opponent in Cruel Smash or play 63 VS. Mode matches. Unlock Aiai - Play VS. Mode for 20 hours or play 72 VS. Mode matches. Unlock TY the Tasmanian Tiger - Complete Classic with all other 93 base game characters (except TY the Tasmanian Tiger Mii Fighters and Sportsmate Fighters) or play 81 VS. Mode matches. Each time 9 VS. Mode matches are played, you get the unlockable character. Trophies will return, but only for characters (for doing Classic with any character), Final Smash trophies (for doing All Star with any character), and Mob Smash. Sandbag only returns as an item.

[@jinjer420]

Honestly, while it’s probably not gonna happen, I love the idea of a completely reworked game with new moves and a new look. Also we NEED a new Subspace Emissary mode

[@aplsed]

0:02 Shortest dash dance and wavedash I've ever seen, though that dash dance to pivot was pretty clean. D- tier.

[@joshuagrahambrown]

I honestly would love to see you do a sequel to your “What If The Next Smash Bros. Had 30 Fighters?” video where perhaps you explore the idea of other numbers like 40/50 (or if there was a square layout with 36/49 fighters instead), or even just to see whether your thoughts now are the same as they were back then

[@alexandercannon6873]

I think smash deluxe is the best timeline, but a new smash bros with slightly different gameplay and a dedicated story mode (with character driven interactions being the main focus) would explode the internet. Let’s do that

[@FireBroFIlmsRM]

Hey Alax, I would recommend you to invest in a lavalier microphone for your on-camera sequences. The rode smart lav + is pretty good and you can use it with your smartphone or even better, with a dedicated recording device like the Zoom H1n. Hope that helps :D

[@Xce-Skill]

Ok, 4th theory, now here me out… Smash Bros Customania Mario spent the majority of its life as a pre-determined game and play style. Until Mario Maker. Since that was such a huge success, what if they leaned into that concept for smash? You have your list of pre-made characters, preferably every character, but with an extra space. The custom characters. This idea was actually used in Rivals of Arthur first (PC), and was pretty successful. I would not be surprised if Nintendo gives this a shot with all their recent DIY style games

[@skymixel101]

Smash bros., in my opinion, should go with a deluxe treatment for ultimate, first, and a reboot second. They need more characters that are highly requested, like Crash Bandicoot, Geno, and Tails, past and new stages would come back, game modes like break the targets (like in melee) and Smash Run, and so many things that Ultimate was lacking. I think the series might continue, but maybe not with Sakurai involved, as he’s basically done with the series at this point. I hope someone who knows Smash, or fighting games in general would be the director, such as Mr. Harada of Tekken fame. At this point, we don’t know where the series would go at this point. So let’s hope Smash continues to thrive, even after all this time.

[@staretimecomics]

The next will be Ultimate deluxe. "Army" theme. Big levels. Big Big Big. Battle royals where the camera follows just your (one) character on a massive map. A mode with bosses only twenty people working together can defeat. Big map capture the flag. 50 v 50 break the targets. There will also be a co-op multi-player campaign based on the BIG level concept in an adventure setting. Wish each character got an alt move set or a X/Y up down L R extra move reservoir. Lots and lots of baddies from Nintendo game series to smash in the campaign.

[@Laekith]

The third option is definitely the best, especially if they do another story mode. Imagine Subspace Emissary but the cutscenes look like Guilty Gear

[@BinglesP]

YES!!! Things like Subspace Emmissary and Smash fan-comics make me desperately want a Smash game with more story. Sure, we love these characters partially because of their abilities, but we love them for their personalities and interactions too. Think of it like Survivor, Total Drama, Battle For Dream Island, etc.: who would form alliances with who, same-series or not? Who would be rivals or enemies? Would they work and live close together, or form their own territories of small or even rogue grounds? What kind of places would they go to, and for what reasons? THERE’S SO MUCH POTENTIAL FOR STORYTELLING IT HURTS

[@Cal33369]

A change of art style, taking out some of the trashy clone characters for new updated refined move sets on beloved characters with a subspace emissary 2 would be perfection

[@Dairunt1]

4:38 Apparently, diagonal smash attacks were considered for Ultimate. And air smashes.

[@Zalian]

There's actually an old incredible series that sorta felt like Smash and was a 3D fighter: *Power Stone* It'd fit quite well imo

[@mysterything8348]

I would love a reboot, with a 50 character roster and refine the roster to reflect newer games

[@Goomba1309]

6:40 IS THAT MOTHERFUCKING SALVO SOTTILE?! (only Italian people will get this... and maybe a few non-Italian ones too because why not)

[@MrMariosonicman]

I think a 3d smash fighter thats chaotic like shreks superslam. that game even had the equivlent of a metered final smash. theres also Power stone. a mad grab to get gems while you bash your enemies in a square like arena. but even then it also had stages that morphed and is also super cool. Kirby and the forgotten land would help for a base of a 3d smash game too, since it feels simple enough to play and that simplicity could be very handy for a bunch of characters. cause take the metaknight fight as slight insparation.

[@epicdavid6180]

5:02 Einstein's quote is definitive proof 3D is better than 2D. It's said by a genius himself.

[@plya0]

I feel like Ultimate Deluxe is the most likely, but a reboot would be the most exciting

[@jkljosh7392]

I have a feeling we will probably just get another smash game, some characters and stages cut and others added, a new smash with a new subtitle.

[@lande.r1]

I think it’s most likely we will return to less fighters but they will change the moveset to represent more current games, say give Mario something related to cappy and change his moves to a new modern ones

[@RyGoesPOP]

Honestly, I think it be right for Ultimate to be ported ala Mario Kart 8 I mean think of it, everyone sticks around, new fighters like Crash, Sol Badguy, and Phoenix Wright joining, Boss Rudh returns, evenly a Roster hitting 100 Fighters

[@hunterkeps9058]

I actually made a prototype 3D Smash game (Called Super Super Smash Brothers), and made it so it plays like Powerstone, and with a bunch of polish made by actually good developers, there's a ton of potential there! It was fun seeing Mario fight DK on a 3D replica of Hyrule Castle, being able to jump around the entire stage instead of just a 2D slice of it.

[@MazoEmboVA]

I really hope we get Ultimate Deluxe I love the roster but there's still some important people missing

[@BabyCocoMan]

The thought of a reboot actually sounds pretty cool!

[@CptCanondorf]

"If smash looked like Guilty Gear, it would be utter PERFECTION!" My friend... let me introduce you to Animelee

[@spaceace9103]

Hope its a reboot, id be sad to lose some of the newcomers in Ultimate but I really want some moveset overhauls

[@Supertaldo916]

The best thing would be Smash Melee 2 HD with subspace emissary ft. Every character in existence being completely viable and not broken nor dumb ™️.

[@josh984gamer5]

Please keep the DKC GBA voice clip gag going, it gets me everytime

[@SaurusTheKing]

5:27 You're fuckin' DELIVERIN', Alax! I really didn't expect it to appear this time

[@TheFloodFourm]

I want SSBU Ultimate Edition and a spin off reboot focusing on the “fantasy” of these match up scenarios. I don’t think people realize how much the “how cool would it be if” plays into their love for the series. After 25+ years of this 2D gameplay I don’t think it sells the fantasy the way it did back in 1999.

[@ethanryan4188]

The Smash 6 Speculation Begins!!!

[@BurgerSoup]

The 3rd option is honestly what I would want, maybe throw in a port of Ultimate so that everyone is happy.

[@Calabari1999]

Actually, I'd really like a "Mario Warriors" thingy or something. Just imagine Mario combos a bunch of koopas on screen

[@smallferalgirl]

7:39 why does only donkey Kong fade in lol

[@sterlingdragon123]

I think the option you're missing is that the next Smash is... business as usual. There'd be some new gimmick, like the SSE, the two-console thing or the Everyone Is Here of it all, but not any of those, something new. There'd be some characters cut, probably a lot that have already been cut before like Pichu, Young Link, and the kind of chaff that's been accumulated since the last time there were any cuts at all like... well, Corrin for one. But most of the characters would return, not rebuilt from the ground up but adjusted, changed, updated, rebalanced etc. And there'd be a healthy portion of newcomers as well (every Smash has, through DLC and echoes, managed to add more newcomers than the prior Smash, with the total additions going from 12 to 14 to 18 to 21 to 24, even though Ultimate was very lacking in the newcomer department at launch due to the focus on returnees.) Like, in essence, it'd be... a whole new Smash game. Like the same was Smash 4 was, the same was Brawl was, the same way Melee was. Just like, another one. Kind of boring in comparison to a reimagining or infinite growth, but I think it's a very underestimated possibility.

[@MCToons918]

Honestly I would kinda hope they would Mix idea 1 and idea 3. But with some slight changes, Maybe Clones and unpopular characters to weed out some of the bigger series and spend that development time on reworking some of the older fighters to breathe in some fresh air.

[@inertiaking1]

Pokken tournament is an excellent example of how to make a great 3d fighting game, but it might not work well with a massive roster

[@KydroYeast]

Waiting for Alax to make a video on Pizza Tower

[@dreibre]

really appreciate the active camera movement in this video

[@Spectral69]

I think doing a pokken tournament and having it be smash tournament as just a spin off could work very well, pika chu and lucario already exist and could be easy fits for it and it could be a cool way to have third parties too. or go a route that alax didnt mention and do something like dissidia or hell a full rpg or something

[@HypercatZ]

Sakurai started talking again about the series three days ago and he hinted about passing the torch. So it's possible that the next Smash Bros. will be a reboot.

[@lancifer3909]

Right when 1:03 hit, I got an ad for the mobile Doom game, so uhhh... Yeah. Yeah, that seems possible.

[@poggersgotabigcodpgabc6224]

As problematic as the licensing would be with a Smash Ultimate "Ultra Deluxe." It could potentially be really cool. Since all the effort that would go into building the grounds for a new game would already be finish. So all the effort could go into polishing the game even more and making it truly the ultimate Smash game. Like rebalancing the characters, specifically the DLC characters. Making similar character more unique or just include them as echo fighters. Making the loading times shorter and helping the game run better. Adding more characters, stages(old and new) music, and modes. An actual story mode with a plot and cut scenes. Spirits could be considered the event mode. Target Smash and or Blast, Smash Run, a boss rush mode, or even something completely new. They could add more bosses(old and new). Make classic mode and stage builder better. Stage builder would be great if they allowed you to do more. There are just not enough options and too many limitations. Allowing classic mode to have different bonus games and not just the same one. Maybe even adding trophies back. Is this likely? Of course not. Would everyone be happy with this? Definitely not, but I think it could be cool. But I think a reboot could be just as cool if given to the right person.

[@Chinesetakeout382]

I’d kinda like to see some kind of major gameplay changes. It should fundamentally still be a party platform fighter, but I’d like to see something that really shakes the game up. So many of the characters have been pretty much unchanged if they have been in more than one game. I want the characters to be revamped regardless of the route they go for. I do think they’ll try to do an Ultimate Deluxe at some point. Give me a DK that actually has moves from his games and make him more than big ape big punch. Edit: add clodsire as the next Pokémon rep, the perfect slow ground fighter.

[@wthrz]

I'd like to see a dedicated/fleshed out adventure spin off.

[@AutisticPhantomOtaku]

Honestly, I would actually like a Super Smash Brothers ultimate deluxe.

[@BobzBlue]

It's a platform fighter, so I want to see better platform game mechanics... like an analog jump, that would go a long way for that one repeated obstacle course in classic mode.

[@calebdonaldson8770]

Y'all gotta stop sleepin' on Brawl. It's an amazing game that everyone and their grandma has sunk at least a thousand hours into. Way more than just the story mode. Haters can go f*ck off.

[@Rmcrace2319]

Nuclear Take incoming: I’m such a huge fan of warriors games, and for quite some time now, I’ve been desperately wanting a smash bros warriors game so bad. Imagine a subspace story where you are just mauling through thousands of enemies. I would give anything for that