The Sonic Game They Wanted You to Forget About

Alax back at it again with the games we would like to forget about. As you know, I love Sonic games, but there is one that was both cancelled, and also feels like it was just wiped away by Sega. Today, we yell about Sonic 4.
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[@icedt513]

fun fact: this game wasn't initially developed as "Sonic 4", hell you can see the original name in the background of Casino Street Zone (it was gonna be titled "Sonic the Portable" and, as it suggests, was gonna be a mobile game first)

[@MarioLuigi0404]

I played it on mobile as a kid. Back in the iPhone 4 days. The game isn’t great but I have a lot of nostalgia for it.

[@xxsegaxx]

That explains the lack of momentum.I mean even Sonic fucking Advance which was also developed by Dimps had momentum. But if you think in a cheap and easy to do Sonic game that you can make it for a phone,and considering how simple phones were back then...I get it

[@orangeslash1667]

@@xxsegaxx Dimps had no creative freedom when making this game.

[@silversonic99]

@@MarioLuigi0404 That's gotta be the most reasonable statement on a Sonic game ever made.

[@marcoworlds7681]

Is it really only me who thinks that sonic 4 was sorta trying to copy the new super Mario bros style but then try to also make it 2d with cell shading and then made it completely terrible all at once?

[@mro.p.9093]

Admittedly, this time they succeeded in making me forget about this.

[@amydoesart3724]

Mania straight up made everyone forget this game

[@Tree_-wp5zn]

Sonic 06 and boom tried the same thing.

[@evdestroy5304]

​@Tree_5000 No, they didn't, 06 was in Gens and has music in the Frontiers update, and they still sell merchandise revolving around it

[@kaxcommentssomethingREAL]

​@@amydoesart3724 man i literally forgot about mania, and it's weird seeing barely nobody talk about it nowadays maybe it's just me, maybe i'm seeing way less mania content

[@delta3244]

​​​@@evdestroy5304 Adding on to your statement, Eggman's leitmotifs from '06 have lasted a while. I _believe_ they weren't used in Frontiers, but I still wouldn't be surprised to hear them again in future releases. They're a really good set of musical things. (edit - grammar, fixed subject-verb agreement)

[@WalrusStu]

The momentum problem in this game is so perplexing because Dimps proved that they knew how to make good sonic physics with the Advance and Rush games.

[@alescano3504]

I think the problem is that they used the rush engine physics for an advance-classic type of game. Thus, the really weird controls. I wonder why. I suspect that the advance engine was 2D, so they went with the rush engine for the 3D physics. They likely didn't have the time/resources/initiative to accomodate it to the classic gameplay. Also they expected it to kinda fly under the radar since it was going to be a mobile game, then SEGA or ST decided it is sonic four now. That's my guess

[@spindash64]

And 3DS classic Sonic physics are genuinely on point

[@Eldoofus]

@@alescano3504 Ok but the rush engine wasn't mobile compatible

[@lilpumpupthejam9302]

@@alescano3504 none of that makes any sense from a programming perspective

[@bluestar5812]

I think the answer is simple: Sonic 4 was developed as smartphone game called "Sonic the Portable". For some stupid reason Sega rebranded this mobile game as "Sonic 4 Episode I" to cash in the trend of cheap Xbox Live Arcade and Wiiware games and Episodic releases. Because this game was made for touch screen devices in mind, removing all momentum makes easier to control Sonic when you have no tactile feedback. So I believe the absence of momentum in Sonic 4 Episode I was a design choice. For Episode II they fixed the physics, somewhat, but that game got panned by critics despite being better than Episode I.

[@SweetsAndFire3]

Took me like 5 minutes to realise this wasn't an old Alax video I somehow forgot about, it was a brand new one My man still has it on him, it's like he never left

[@Ersa_]

7:33 that was a nice ytp moment right there

[@Nawakooo0]

I learned to count thanks to Sonic! 1, 2, 3, & Knuckles, Mania... That's all I can remember...

[@skylertherat]

1, cd, 2, 3 , and knuckles, mania

[@vividcolorandrichaudio6134]

It's almost as if Sonic 4 happens after Sonic Mania 🤔

[@thedman1754]

1, CD, 2, 3, & Knuckles, Mania, Adventure, Adventure 2, Heroes, Shadow, Rush, 06, Rush adventure, Secret rings, Unleashed, Black Knight, Colors, Generations, Lost world, Forces, Frontiers.

[@biodock2003]

Sonic 1, 2, CD, 3 and Knuckles, Triple Trouble, 4, MANIA

[@LonerFreaks64]

​@@skylertherat 1, CD, 2, 3, & Knuckles, Mania, Plus...

[@JacintoshPLUS]

nothing makes me happier than seeing Alax is back I can't lie

[@WuvPain]

🎅 What about Christmas?

[@rottingbasket3379]

Can the other brothers even deny?

[@EmpaGalactica]

amen brother

[@nullset2]

We only need jakey too

[@VentA_7]

RelaxAlex channeling his YTPMV skills and bringing in all that fnaf experience he’s been playing for this

[@lazarusmekhane439]

Imagine the expression on Isaac Newton's face when he finds out his laws of motion are being violated by a Sonic made of cheap plastic.

[@BinglesP]

For a second I misread the start of this comment as "Imagine the motion blur on Isaac Newton's face" 💀

[@ejthenobody]

I feel like this is more like...The Sonic game we can collectively agree to forget about.

[@relaxalax]

Damn this was the better title and I blew it. Take the channel I guess.

[@ejthenobody]

@@relaxalax gamin'.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@relaxalax This game was made by Dimps, who also made Sonic Advance.

[@vividcolorandrichaudio6134]

Not me. I still love this game.

[@andraw4002]

Ep 2 is an improvement

[@yggdrasilsaltar]

if i had a quarter for everytime a franchise who’s mascot is an anthropomorphic animal made a 4th game in the franchise that was so bad they later retconned it out of existence with a true 4th game that was actually good… i’d have 50 cents.

[@FailedUltimatelifeForm7-10]

Is the second banjo kazooie, jack and daxtar or rachet and Clank. I'm not too familiar with those and I'm curious.

[@samueld8413]

@@FailedUltimatelifeForm7-10 it’s Crash

[@FailedUltimatelifeForm7-10]

@@samueld8413 there was a fourth game before the remakes and Crash 4 it's about time ?

[@3spoons366]

​@@FailedUltimatelifeForm7-10 COUGH COUGH (wrath of cortex) COUGH COUGH (crash 4 in japan)

[@castform7]

I was anticipating the classic "which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice" but then I remembered you said quarter instead of nickel.

[@NewSkater3000]

6:42 Bro didn't even say yes and he was crushed

[@pr9043]

Im always excited for the way Alax appears through the door as an introduction. This one has to be my favorite aside the mario strikers one.

[@HexterXD]

The comedic timing in this video has me sliding up a wall like sonic after a grand time at casino street.

[@Andre-Time]

Alex’s fnaf trauma is slowly seeping into these videos and i absolutely adore it-

[@haospacman1084]

I remember buying this on steam being disgusted by the first level and never playing it again. Don’t think I’ve ever given up that fast on a game I bought ever

[@Eevee860]

The mobile versions are the complete versions of the game, you played the unfinished version

[@Mattmann97]

3:46 I LOVED Kid Pix in elementary school bro I completely forgot about it, what a memory you've unlocked thank you

[@ediblecharcoal4855]

as a stupid 7 year old I adored these two games but looking back at em, holy shit 😭

[@malokojazz4845]

I'm convinced that Alax made this entire video around the time he was moving just so he could make that "There's a lot to unpack here" pun.

[@POTTERANDMATRIXFAN]

A true Sonic fans never forget and forever keeps a grudge.

[@firesoul5943]

10:01 genuinely caught off guard by the lack of "meow" or Ganon sound censoring

[@Xenon_XTH]

Y'know that alax breaks the "meow"s

[@BinglesP]

Thank you new KZbin policies for letting creators swear again

[@Shadamyfan-rs8xc]

Sonic's animation in this game looks like a modern remaster of 'Sonic Blast' for the game gear.

[@Pepeutra]

I unfortunately played this when i was a kid and i remember this game clearly. The fondest memory i have with it is when i stopped playing the game and started playing with my hotwheels cars

[@Yipper64]

5:04 just the perfectly spaced row of trees. Thats physically painful.

[@joshthekingg]

0:18 my honest reaction to Sonic The Hedgehog 4

[@canucklehead9250]

2:11 this is the most Canadian thing mans has ever said, and I love it

[@SaurusTheKing]

8:24 Honestly Alax, bless you for continuing putting this clip into every video you do now. I literally load a video eager to find when it plays

[@magmarxiogaming6717]

10:41 genuinely some of the most nauseating gameplay ever, "ah yes let's take the already dizzying special stage from sonic 1 and make it WORSE"

[@brianwagner2776]

Seeing alex have skullgirls in his steam library was the biggest case of whiplash I wasn't expecting, also spark the electric jester 1-3 vid when?.

[@raptorzeraora2632]

7:39 best part in this video

[@cypcyp77]

Please never stop using DK screaming as he falls off the Minecart track, funny af.

[@yoshimallow_5121]

How many times has he used it?

[@PuffPuddn]

one of my friends FORCED me to play this game like a year ago and I couldn't forget about this game IT CHANGED ME MAN IT HURTS TO THIS DAY THE SONG OF THE BONUS LEVELS STILL PLAYS ON REPEAT IN MY NIGHTMARES

[@tuluflulu]

I always forget this one. I remember a lot of the side games like Chronicles, Shuffle and Spinball. But this one always slips my mind.

[@EmperorShaoKahn123]

12:08 Super Sonic Is invincible and 2x faster Still dies from being crushed, drowning or falling in a bottomless pit

[@JohnWolf2007]

10:48 you know when someone is watching Scott ot the woz

[@milank_12]

You’re editing skills are unmatched. Every joke hits

[@ytchip21]

Thank you for reminding me that Kid Pix 3 existed Alax. That game was stored in the back of my brain until now. Gotta admit, you are one of the few KZbinrs that hits specific niche interests and styles of humor that I like.

[@M.J44]

0:50 Average mega collection enjoyer ❤

[@teero121]

that sound he has been using at the beginning of each video since his comeback is so satisfying

[@blockish71]

When I went back and played 06 and Shadow, I loved them. This game was a different story.

[@vividcolorandrichaudio6134]

If you can tolerate 2006's abysmal hub world, or the fetch quests in Shadow, you should have no problem with Sonic 4.

[@Eevee860]

@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 No, 06's hub worlds are easy if you know where to go, you're barely ever in them, and shadow's quests aren't bad, they're all extremely easy and usually just involve not ignoring the entire level, the "kill all enemy" quests are something you always do in one run except for the one on the nonlinear ark stage

[@vividcolorandrichaudio6134]

@@Eevee860 "The hubworlds are easy if you've preemptively memorized the entire thing" yeah, that's the problem.

[@Essstola]

Adding all the irl video clips like you moving and wrapping yourself in tin foil is fire af it perfectly adds character to the video

[@1978ScArTiSsUe2010]

Cling film

[@midnightlunch3285]

Your channel was blessed by the algorithm, and I'm glad. What a gem of a channel.

[@captainjet-pack]

I was already feeling kinda sick today so when the special stage came up I had to legit look away!

[@KgEclispe252]

Reminder when this game was releasing it advertised itself as "Screw Sonic friends we hate them too". And fans back then loved this game because of that. This stigma Sonic fans had with his friends was something else.

[@vividcolorandrichaudio6134]

I could see why. In most 2000's Sonic games, the fast Sonic levels were the best parts, but were constantly interrupted by the other characters.

[@V-Jes]

​@Vivid Color, and Rich Audio! Or in same games like Adventure 2 be over 2/3 of the game...

[@KgEclispe252]

​​@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 I can understand that. But at that time it just felt like Sonic fans never even wanted their friends to appear in no capacity it was ludicrous when you think about it.

[@vividcolorandrichaudio6134]

@@KgEclispe252 I wouldn't really say it was the fans, mostly the critics. It explains why episode 1 had decent reception.

[@KgEclispe252]

@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 I would argue it was also the fans who believe these same critics back then. I remember seeing a parody trailer about Sonic 4 and the whole joke around was that storytelling and Sonic friends are the problem we just want Sonic and that's it. I get it Sonic 06 but still it's ridiculous that it was blamed solely on that instead of Sega being incompetent.

[@xKOSATx]

I love seeing all of Alax's entrances at the beginning of every video. It just makes my Thursdays 😁

[@kitestar]

Considering the mobile version of all two-and-a-half episodes still exists I don’t think they’re trying very hard to make you forget

[@luigiboi4244]

I used to play the mobile version of this on tablet, and… yeah, this looked and functioned WAY better when my brain was the size of a gerbil.

[@NaBrO_H2O]

5:29 ah yes, sideways Australia.

[@baneck8627]

Peru

[@becaring]

This was a nightmare. Can't wait for episode 2! 😉

[@ChaelSonnen000]

10:19 killed me

[@splashmanej3]

were you sonic

[@chonbasket656]

idk why the "i didnt throw up i swear" killed me i love you relaxalaxalax

[@jessicacook2296]

9:32 we got starved eggman XD

[@SqweegeeYT]

“You don’t even know your own fate, hedgehog.”

[@hmmmstvethebaffled7720]

It really does look like it was made by Scott Cawthon, very appropriate timing Alax

[@yaidenjuki8536]

He’s low key committed to use the Donkey Kong Country mine cart clip on every video this season huh?

[@emperior5710]

If you could, I think a good sonic game to cover is sonic and the black knight. Because someone looked at sonic and said “You know, this is good, but you know what it needs? Arthurian mythos.” And than sega did that.

[@larvatar2387]

Alax making weekly bangers is now a ingrained part of my Thursday.

[@FindingsOfAnArmouredMind]

2:46 I never thought being Texan felt that dirty. Not that I am (I'm from Chile), but the feelin' is just the same.

[@toasterbomber1037]

I am suddenly possessed by the urge to go back and play Ultimate Flash Sonic

[@Dramilos]

The thumbnail is simple, beautiful, and yet funny. I had to stop for a moment to appreciate this thumbnail

[@ToastComix]

These intros are just so… no words to describe it honestly

[@spimbles]

i remember being so excited as a kid for games like Colors and 4 that even though i knew deep down inside that something was seriously wrong as i played them, i still told myself "no this is- this is FANTASTIC! no yeah im really enjoying just... holding boost... and hearing baldy mcnosehair... y-yeah these games are great!!! Sonic cant be beat!!!" man i was in SUCH denial that i genuinely had no idea how much i actually fucking despise these games in reality until Cybershell told me for me lmfao 6:55 genuinely has my jaw on the floor. i cannot believe this is a real game. what. the. fuck. is THAT.

[@chiron540]

Can Sonic fans bring up anything else aside from "Baldy McNosehair" when talking about this game's story please? Also the "holding boost" argument doesn't make any sense since Colors is the most platforming heavy boost game. Did you even play the game for more than the first few levels?

[@adamcarr5997]

Colours*

[@invalid7305]

Bro I never played episode one but as a kid I had so much fun playing episode two with my friend...on mobile I would love to see you talk about that

[@colebeck96]

love seeing what your gonna do for the intro each time!

[@DenerMartins99]

4:10 the way he says that is very funny

[@transcendicalamity2543]

I can’t forget about this game because this was my first sonic game; bought it on the wii ware. It was 15 dollars; the biggest problem for it for me was the price. It is just 4 zones and the special stages. Looking back on it I just found the fact that I was playing a classic-feeling sonic game to be fun, with no context of the originals. Looking back on it today this game and episode 2 has aged like milk.

[@thebaum64]

I'm so glad you're back, every video since you came back has been a banger. Missed you fr

[@BN0FFICIAL]

1:48 I didn't know Midoriya was a Sonic fan boy too.🤣

[@DestinyBonded]

I wanna take a guess on the compiled renders at 2:05 So his head is a Sonic and the Secret Rings render used to promote the game and all that The hand feels very Unleashed like And the body is possibly from Sonic Rush?

[@creepycreeper1112]

Hand is rivals

[@fireyman247official]

Every water level in gaming at 6:25

[@13j48]

Sonic Mania opening acknowledged Sonic CD as the true Sonic 4 Remember that

[@burchardhutchinson5757]

Very happy you started making videos again, I needed this

[@Jabersson]

I am officially starting my addiction to Alax's sense of comedic timing 👍

[@silversonic99]

This was a VERY weird time to be a Sonic fan. Looking back on this period now feels like a fever dream.

[@vividcolorandrichaudio6134]

2010 was one of the best times to be a Sonic fan. The 3d games finally started doing well.

[@lafbkhope5391]

@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 Good joke lol. Colors DS and Generations were like only good games in the 2010+. And the writing, oh God the writing in the 2010+ games are just beyond atrocious. The stories are laughable and everyone's character was massacred into oblivion. Doesn't help that the new voice actors are horrible.

[@vividcolorandrichaudio6134]

@@lafbkhope5391 Have you considered removing your nostalgia goggles? Also, if you want *real* atrocious writing, go replay Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Sonic 2006.

[@traviscunningham7062]

I rather play Mario Galaxy 2 and Mario 3D Land over Colors and Generations. Mario>>>>>>>>>Sonic

[@beanoptodon]

You know what I'd love to see more of? That Magnum Opus series you did for a second. I loved that stuff and really enjoyed it.

[@SeaOfPixels]

The fact that they tried to hide the fact that Sonic is a 3D model using ultra high contrast and pixelation makes my brain want to implode. Like, it's so painfully obvious with the world map and Sonic himself being 3D that they wanted the levels to be fully 3D modeled but they just gave up before they even started.

[@MW-jy2fb]

1:22 I remember I got Generations, Adventure 1 and 2 and Sonic 3 for $11 on a sale

[@MrNeedleM0use]

I’m am here to say that the real Sonic 4, Sonic Superstars has been shown off today for the first time and it looks SOOOOO GOOOD!

[@eclairence]

8:43 Lol that looks like a mix of Scyther and Snivy

[@curtishenderson8997]

Geez man the editing on this one is insane!

[@NABBIT2000]

7:00 lmao

[@sometf2player752]

3:32 fun fact the mobile version of sonic 4 ep 1 actually fixes sonics lighting and it lookes 100 times better than deep fried sonic The game still isn’t the best though

[@BatArtay]

7:33 That was the best ytpmv ever😭😭

[@Latestmustace]

8:00 These enemies are actually from Sonic 2, you dingus.

[@John1497]

12:13 Am I the only one who actually likes episode 2?

[@lindadaher4859]

nope it's *WAAAAAAAAAAAY* better then episode 1 and it's pretty fun

[@andraws]

This video is so, SO good. Keep this level of quality up!

[@illusion9685]

I saw the dumbnail and thought "oh, that's sonic Caos or sonic triple trouble"

[@metaknightjudgesyoursins4710]

3:43 *…Don’t do that, don’t compare a good game to a bad game* *FNaF World deserves better than to be compared to Sonic Rehash 4*

[@yahyayazgi]

THATS WHAT I AM SAYING!

[@knifefish1491]

God you're striking me right in my nostalgia by not reviewing the second one

[@tinyt.w.i.m7291]

3:46 HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS You’ve resurrected a memory I’d lost long ago…

[@bituniverse8677]

Sonic Rush is one you should look into. I had fun with it on my DS back in the day

[@BinglesP]

4:07 The Ed Edd n’ Eddy SFX kinda jumped me since I was writing for my EEnE fanfiction series while listening to this

[@la_win69]

0:35 YES IT IS

[@asrielxsamus]

this video was amazing lol every new video of yours is always a joy to watch

[@milesbosau]

alax i showed new soup to my piano teacher cuz it’s such a bop and he loved it 🙂

[@NemesisOgreKing]

I remember being so hyped for this in 2010, then completely forgot about it.

[@DPC2011]

2:26 I don’t like this I don’t want you to do it

[@MAHIM2000]

Banger video as always! Also, it would be cool if in your next video (assumingly on Sonic 4 Episode II) you briefly mention about Sonic 4 Episode I's Mobile Port, which is immensely better in a graphical and character movement standpoint. Love your weekly uploads, Alax

[@CaptainFalcon333]

The YTP style jokes made me laugh. Glad you still got it.

[@rezi00]

the game looks better on ipad

[@Brawlmaster151]

The game was intended to be a mobile game called Sonic Portable or something like that which is why it looks much better for some reason. EP. 2 looks worse on mobile, however.

[@yrrr4871]

11:21 Skill issue