Predicting the NFC NORTH!

Predicting the NFC NORTH. Today we break down the NFC NORTH. Who will win the division, which moves stand out from free agency & the Draft for the Packers, Bears, Vikings, & Lions. Can quarterback Jordan Love pick up where he left off? The Lions paid Jared Goff & Amon Ra-St. Brown are they real Super Bowl contenders? Rookies Caleb Williams & J.J. McCarthy are tasked with saving two franchises, but will JJ even start over Sam Darnold this season?
Tom Grossi & Brandon Perna of ThatsGoodSports discussing all the NFL news. GPS The Grossi Perna Show.
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[@dobe46]

2:55 They won 7 with Justin Fields, 1 more game isn’t that optimistic…

[@ObamaPhoneProMax5G]

He’s a Packers fan so of course he thinks the fact that they destroyed the fraudulent Cowboys means something. The Packers snuck into the playoffs by the skin of their teeth last year and everyone in their division has gotten significantly better (minus the Vikings). I personally think the Bears and Lions will be on top of the division this year.

[@Will-fk2dk]

​@ObamaPhoneProMax5G Same here... I can absolutely see the Packers falling off this year. 1) Lions (13 - 4) 2) Bears (10 - 7) 3) Packers (7 - 10) 4) Vikings (6 - 11) However, the following season, 2025, that is when I believe the NFC North truly becomes a bloodbath! It will be an extremely difficult Division, and all 4 Teams will spend the whole Season beating each other up! You could either see 3 Teams in the Playoffs, or 4 Teams at around the 11-6 to 8-9 range. Bear Down!!

[@myrongaines6022]

@@ObamaPhoneProMax5GJordan Love was statistically the best qb in the league over the second half of the season, I think there’s more reason to expect the packers to be good than just them beating the cowboys

[@MOSTxDOPE]

the paul allen hate is wild, that man is a great announcer

[@ZGWAGS]

Right??

[@jaysonblake4865]

He’s a giant baby grossi is right. He even said he’s a good broadcaster.

[@imcalledgpk]

The best things about him are his soundbites when he thinks the vikings win, but they actually lose.

[@oscarhess1376]

@@imcalledgpkTHIS IS NOT DETRIOT

[@brianw3656]

​@@imcalledgpk Which is often

[@halloweentimemachine]

“It doesn’t look sketchy, it looks like it’s from Twitter” Bro they’re the same thing

[@jaysonblake4865]

Perna getting hacked by clicking a suspicious link is the most boomer thing ever.

[@DamnedSilly]

Shame he's way too young to be a boomer. His parents _might_ have been boomers. Misunderstanding what a boomer is is the most millennial thing ever.

[@jaysonblake4865]

@@DamnedSilly I don’t think u understand what I said.

[@DamnedSilly]

@@jaysonblake4865 I do. I just think the overuse of misinformed slang like 'boomer' and 'karen' is going to look amazingly dated just a few years down the road and result in some new term applied just for those that used them. Some day, people will probably even sneer at people too lazy to add a y and an o.

[@jaysonblake4865]

@@DamnedSilly my god dude. Was just saying it cuz he got hacked with a fishing scam. It’s not that deep and he’s made boomer jokes in the past. Your reading into it way to deep.

[@jaysonblake4865]

@@DamnedSilly the fact that I have to explain that is sad.

[@ilikeme1234]

Perna’s Twitter account getting hacked is not helping him beat the boomer allegations.

[@Lowerclergy]

@@ilikeme1234 boomer allegations? Who the hell would accuse him of being a boomer? Do people not realize that the youngest people of the baby boomer generation would be in their mid 60s by now? Does anyone think perna appears to be in his mid 60s or older? That's just ridiculous And not even funny it's just dumb childish

[@DamnedSilly]

@@Lowerclergy I'm the youngest 'boomer' I've ever known (my dad served in WW2) and I'm 56. My old man was born the same year as Queen Elizabeth II. The vast majority of living Boomers are collecting Social Security and only ever refer to millennials as 'these kids these days'.

[@jondonelly7219]

@@LowerclergyOk boomer

[@timothyhoover964]

It cracks me up everytime so eeplys okay boomer in here. I been dying keep it going.

[@yaquvyhardson3768]

Go lions! 🦁

[@wbke]

Uncontested division winners

[@Dalton906J]

Heck yeah

[@buttzlol]

Kmet top 10 TE, nothing will change my mind

[@wbke]

Currently yes; but this and last year’s rookie TE classes could possibly take 3-4 of the top 10 spots this season

[@lovelaj0149]

Rookie QBs love a TE as a security blanket in the short passing game. He'll have a good year.

[@Blank-jt3nj]

Easiest prediction ever: Lions win the Super Bowl

[@Lowerclergy]

@@Blank-jt3nj lol yeah right

[@Lowerclergy]

@@Blank-jt3nj you're out of your mind if you believe for a second that the lions would ever win a SB. Bro they had the team last year that could've easily won a SB but in the NFC championship they laid down and gave the game to the 49ers which takes effort when you're up as much as they were lol. Much like the falcons in SB 51 I mean you gotta literally stop trying and make the worst decisions possible to not know how to win a game when you're up that much

[@wbke]

Lions stand the best chance of winning the division, but they are nowhere near championship ready. The AFC washes them

[@scottgarvey3112]

Vikings fan. That clip doesn’t make me mad. It makes me love Paul Allen more. But yeah, that game sucked😔

[@patrickgomperts6297]

Jordan love played 8 good games and has to be paid now. 8 game sample size.

[@TheFatOrangeYak]

"for every great play he has (caleb) he has a worse turnover" you mean the 5 whole INTs he had last year?

[@WerksOG]

Then Love throws the ugliest picks you've ever seen.

[@wbke]

the NFC North bias on GPS is always palpable. Tom probably plays Madden Franchise with the packers players all edited to be 99s because that’s how he sees them in real life too

[@WerksOG]

@wbke I get being a fan but also be realistic, the Bears WRs shit all over the Packers and he wants to make it seem close. 😂

[@UsefulPreconceivedNotions]

These channels aren't the best an analysis. They make amazing well-researched videos on some topics yet miss such obvious things staring them in the face. Remember that 3-game streak the Bears led the NFL in offense during '22? They changed almost all the plays, then abandoned them & went back to halving their offensive production. Why? 1) The OC decided to do this & the HC didn't notice for over a year? Or is 2) more likely, that the great plays _were_ the OC's & that the HC who did boast curiously & specifically about limiting what plays the offense could use changed everything back? No OC can override an HC, so d'uh. The worst part is the Bears started using those plays again late in '23 after they acquired a new DC & Eberflus was busy acclimating them to the team/was less involved in the offense. Then Eberflus took back control & cancelled those plays _AGAIN_ & Perna asks out loud (on a video) why tf Getsy can't just run the ball with Fields. He *just **_DID!_* Eberflus has that thing that others always get blamed for his decisions. I _hate_ it!

[@maroc-al-helmidi]

They don’t watch college football, what do you expect?

[@canislupus5]

Lions 13-4 Bears 8-9 Vikings 8-9 Packers 8-9

[@seanmurphy9103]

Need a Grossi v Perna boxing match in parking lot of joint practices in Denver this August haha love your content gents! Some of the best in the world!

[@bradpirochta9293]

Got Packers finishing 4th. Minn is underrated.

[@y2j1490yahoo]

You're trolling.

[@wbke]

💯

[@Fakeyoutubeprofile]

Gotta argue with your take on John Wayne Gacy, Perna. Very odd of you to say he was secretly a really nice guy and probably could have caught 2-4 TD’s a season as a TE for the Packers.

[@brandonchristopher9657]

Podcast starts at 22:00

[@Ewok117]

The bears were 7-10 last year with mostly bad QB play and poor defense in the first half of the year. They were 3 really close 4th quarters away from being 10-7. Yall are sleepin on da bears 👀

[@andrewjazdzyk1215]

They also have a weirdly easy schedule this year.

[@paleo-chicagobears2454]

GPS will always hate the Bears sadly

[@wbke]

The bears were a better competitor with UDFA Bagent leading the squad than their own choice of first round QB. They’re on track to be the best team at ruining rookie QBs and that’s about it

[@bigmacwithsoda]

All hate from MN ❤

[@wbke]

🤝

[@thewannabeheel8091]

Lions also have DPJ. He had that pretty solid season in Cleveland.

[@3brostaco]

That throw he made as a viking from the 50 yard line on a frozen rope showed how amazing his arm was.

[@neppy6319]

As a Vikings fan I remember that Cardinals game very well I was actually just put a mouthpiece in for like whitening my teeth cuz I was 13 and yeah. The funny thing is rule the touchdown because they pushed them out but he might not have got his feet and if they just didn't push him.

[@Aero0118]

Lions take the division baby 💙🦁

[@pxrays547]

Old school, but Randell Cunningham could fucking wing it. One of the "skills competitions" back in the day Drew Bledsoe also tossed it a fair piece.

[@WesVikis]

Gotta disagree with your JJ McCarthy take Perna, I would argue he is the most NFL ready rookie QB since he ran the pro style offense at Michigan, he knows how to command a huddle and he is great with play action. I don't buy for a second that he needs work on his mechanics, that's just PR trying to temper fan expectations. Trust

[@wbke]

Vikings are forever slept on 💯

[@Bryan-ig2zp]

Commanding a huddle and fake hand-offs aren't all you need. He's pro ready but needs to sit behind the worst starter in the league??

[@wbke]

@@Bryan-ig2zp Wrong. “Worst starter” …who never had a full offense on the field with him. I repeat what I said: Vikings are forever slept on because people will continue to cherry pick their arguments and willfully ignore important context

[@Bryan-ig2zp]

@@wbke. No one would argue that Sam Darnold isn't a bottom 3 starter. Why can't JJ beat him out?

[@WesVikis]

@@Bryan-ig2zp JJ will beat him out, and he will have a better career than Caleb Williams or any other QB drafted from this class. Bet 😘

[@scottjohnson1596]

Not the weakest arm, but disappointing arm was Todd Marinovich. I remember Bill Walsh calling his first start and quoting Marcus Allen saying he had a candy arm. Never heard that before but Marcus was a football savant and nailed it.

[@oldwolf9949]

Ahhhh Mr. Grossi I’ve been saying if the lions could have a top 10/15 offense since “09”

[@zackspiker_]

I was always impressed with Kapernick’s speed with a long bomb.

[@brettduncan15]

Dont disrespect Paul Allen again

[@flybirdsfly2091]

Good stream brandon

[@ryansnustad9133]

I watched that and made a catch phrase "Are you effing Jerious" Stops NFL enthusiasts cold in their tracks.

[@debbaedke3170]

Great stream! Love the New Worst FORGOTTEN game! And remember...birds are dumb!!😂

[@kevinfavron]

Same Brandon Queen is the best

[@michaeldeligne599]

Vikings. Surprise team just to spite Tom

[@DeePunter]

its gonna be so fun for Bears fan this* year and i mean it in a good way. Go Bears!

[@garybrigham9538]

GO LIONS!!!!!!!

[@scottgarvey3112]

Why is he here?! I was hoping for a non biased nfc north prediction

[@tricot6468]

I hate that cutler comment. It’s too true :(

[@stubbystudios9811]

I love Paul Allen he can at least make the pain enjoyable 😂

[@aaronkersenbrock6419]

McNabb had a cannon arm

[@henrywallacesghost5883]

Lions, Packers, Bears, and Vikings is my guess as to how they will finish.

[@philipcaseyacalloway204]

Take Goff boys!!!

[@Tomoomba]

Genuinely confused why people think the Packers are a 10+ win team. Their defense was ass and Love had like 5 good games at the end of the season. Plus they lost their best offensive and replaced him with a guy coming off a down year. Also how their season ended wasn't a surprising play. Love had been doing shit like that all season. Bears are probably 7-8 wins and Pack will probably be the same.

[@WerksOG]

Tom saying the Bears have all these questions marks when their roster is just better than the Packers. Qb and Coaching is the difference.

[@wbke]

Tom probably plays Madden Franchise with the Packers players all edited to be 99s because that’s how good he thinks they are in real life too. Green Bay, Minnesota, and Chicago all have teams with young unproven players who have incredible potential. The only difference between the three is the bias oozing out of GPS

[@imcalledgpk]

​@@WerksOGThat's debatable. The bears roster outside of their WRs completely sucks ass.

[@WerksOG]

@imcalledgpk Swift, Herbert and Johnson is as good a backfield as Jacob's and Dillon. Jalen Johnson is a top 5 cb and our young CBs are developing Edmonds and Edward's are a solid LB duo Montez is a stud and our young DTs are ramping up. Kmet is a top 10 Te and our offensive line is improving rapidly. But go off mister Packer fan about how shit our roster is and how elite yours is.

[@wbke]

@@WerksOG adding to this: Roscchon Johnson has barely been utilized in Chicago’s offense yet, he’s untapped talent. Josh Jacobs? Waaaaashed.

[@davidlamers874]

we need tom to get a face mic lol like a REF

[@scottjohnson1596]

Forgotten strong QB arms: Jay Schroeder. Cannon, but reading a defense????

[@ericruiz658]

Derrick Carr used to throw too hard

[@sushia.f.1809]

Ill go hard. Lions while on paper should be great... "should" never works out. Cambell said it himself. Hard to return to that point. Bears are still a mess in the front office doing such a great job rebooting every two to three years. Packers need to not hit a sophmore slump with a second year QB and get an unknown roster deep with just your coaching staff. Vikings need to make a roster of high paid people work well together for years to come with an unproven QB room. The north will be a far far cry from predictions. Its up for grabs. Who gets hot in the right times and in the right ways wins the north. Its going to be chaos.

[@johnedwards5738]

Green Bay will finish 2nd or 3rd in the division

[@SteveNeuge]

Getting hacked was Brandon’s most elaborate attempt to get out of watching Coach so far

[@ryankasch5561]

Bears were 7-10 last year with Fields. I just think there's no way Caleb looks like he's the guy and they don't have a better record than that. They didn't lose anyone great, and their point spread last year was an 8-9 record. People will always be overly homer, but I feel I'm being emminently reasonable at 9 wins. Edit:7-10 literally wouldn't be better, just say you think they're not improved at all or think more about what you're saying when you say 7-10.

[@judgelandrum6156]

Lions all they way

[@brandonchristopher9657]

Da bears are coming hard💦 But it's the Lions 🦁 division

[@user-fy5fm5so1g]

Don,t. get wrong I think Paul Allen is a great play by play announcer.The problem is I just love hearing him call emic Viking playoff failures😰😰😰😰😰

[@wiscored88]

46:00 the reason they say this, is because they dont have a WR1 😂😂 nothing but ok 2s and 3s

[@Will-fk2dk]

The two things that worry me the most about my Bears are: 1) The Defensive Line, but more specifically, the Rush Ends. Getting zero pressure on the opposing QB will end up costing them games. It puts a lot of pressure on the Bears Defensive Backs, but that is the best part of the Defense... our DBs. 2) The Offensive Line. I am worried about this a lot. Remember, Justin Fields was Sacked so often last season, even with how great he was at running. Yeah, I know he is responsible for many of those sacks, but they got hit early in the plays too often.

[@wbke]

@@Will-fk2dk Gervon Dexter will continue growing into a stud, calling it now

[@Mr___f]

Statistically the Bears O line performed a little above average last year. Holding on to the ball way too long is what killed Fields.

[@Will-fk2dk]

@wbke Oh man, I hope you are right! Just think about that... There is so much focus on the Offense, and more specifically, our brand new Rookie QB, brand new Rookie WR, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, DeAndre Swift, Cole Kmet... it's a great core group! If we could get a boost from a player that wasn't generally expected to perform, it would be amazing. That alone could alone could make the Defense much better!

[@Will-fk2dk]

@@Mr___f That is very true. He held the ball way too long, and that hurt him. I just want to see consistency from the O-line. If they can open some wide lanes for the RBs, that will help to make Caleb's job a lot easier.

[@turdfurgason8476]

Lets go Brandon!

[@dailydonkeysaltydabs6056]

ALL SCAM EMAILS are easy to spot, look at the damn spelling in the link!

[@blucollarball3r]

I could see the vikings going anywhere from 7-10 to 11-6, if im being honest as a fan. I dont think theyre going to finish worse than the bears, and i could potentially see them even being 2nd innthe division. Its most definitely the lions time tho, ill admit it.

[@TreeStarChomper]

I don't understand how 7 is the floor with such a huge question mark at QB. Even with Caleb I think the Bears floor is lower than 7.

[@wbke]

The vikings *will* end this coming season with a Wildcard spot

[@wbke]

@@TreeStarChomperBecause coaching matters too. The Vikings as an organization are far above the Bears when it comes to coaching staff ready to train new talent.

[@blucollarball3r]

@TreeStarChomper thats my thinking too. Both have question marks at qb but its looking more and more likely that Darnold gets the start for the vikes. That and the continuance at coordinators...i believe the packers D coord and the bears O coord are in their first season with their teams if im not mistaken?? (I could def be wrong, please correct me if so.) I wanna make a fully informed, knowledgeable outlook as to what the season could be.

[@blucollarball3r]

@wbke i do believe that is correct. It may be the 7th seed and it may come to something crazy like common opponents..but yes i do realistically see us finishing better than Green Bay and Chicago

[@ryansnustad9133]

Brett Favre, the old dong slinger. He even vultured Mary from Ben Stiller.

[@001Flange]

Detroit wins 14 Green Bay 10 Minnesota 9 Chicago 8

[@wbke]

Swap Green Bay & Minnesota and yes

[@MOSTxDOPE]

EVEN IF THE VIKINGS FINISH LAST THIS YEAR (WHICH IS UNLIKELY) THEY WILL 100% BE BACK ON TOP BY NEXT YEAR WHEN JJ TO JJ CHEMISTRY STARTS ASCENDING

[@djdanicp]

I think you accidentally hit zero too many times bc you obviously meant to say 10% instead of 100%.

[@tricot6468]

@@djdanicp1%*

[@ericwilsonlive]

The fact you're yelling definitely helps your argument

[@eagletsnupper7876]

​@@djdanicp i don't think they meant to hit 0 at all

[@Lowerclergy]

What do you mean back on top? When were they ever on top? The most "on top" they've ever been is when legendary QB Frank Tarkenton and the legendary Purple People Eater defense, went to 4 Superbowls way back in the 1970's.... Spoiler alert... They lost every single one.... 4X NFC champions the Vikings are, back about 45 years ago... So back on top of the NFC for the first time in that long? Is that what you mean? Ok cool

[@derekharp2805]

Lions winning the division

[@jimmypancake6935]

brandon th(RRR)ow perna

[@dylankiefer7967]

Sending hate from MN❤️❤️

[@t1cn579]

NFC NORTH vs. AFC SOUTH 😁

[@wiscored88]

46:37 the vikings hate is real though…idk why everyone sleeps on Minnesota EVERY year…last year we were 7-10 with 4 QBs only one of quality and without JJ half the year…stop it…and our defense was ranked #12 last year, we replaced some aging guys with guys younger and either better or just as good…keep sleeping NFL…keep sleeping

[@JohnPappFitness]

Lions run the north. That is all.

[@NoHomers23]

Probably the best in division in football in 2024

[@y2j1490yahoo]

You're probably the worst in English.

[@daltorthedestroyer2016]

Tom can not talk about the packers objectively haha

[@meganlanier9643]

Perna gets hacked and doesn't use a good ad blocker - OK, Boomer! ;)

[@mellorjoshua]

But what if the packers are really bad? 😏😁🤣

[@BranNew1]

I want it so bad 🤫

[@mykelengieza7057]

ALGORITHM

[@theadamblock]

Love you Tom but watch the filler words. A lot of likes going on 🙃

[@johnstanton1515]

Getting defensive over clicking obvious bait… showing your age

[@brianw3656]

Kwesi is the worst GM I have seen in my 60 years on Earth

[@lnnrt0161]

I don’t get that „his completion percentage dropped 20% against top defenses“ comment. Like isn’t that what good defense tend to do especially when the USC offense really wasn’t that stacked either

[@dragondrew2000]

Detroit is winning the division again

[@eff-dupstuff2949]

Favre never scared me as an opponent fan.... F&^k Rogers tho..... that dude blew a loot of refs aftergame... like a circus seal act

[@derekrichardson9105]

I understood that reference.

[@aaroncstyle5024]

Vikings fan and lifelong TC resident. Paul Allen is god awful and has the worst radio show in all of sports talk radio here. Absolutely embarrassing.

[@ObamaPhoneProMax5G]

Bears will unironically be better than the Packers this year. Packers were mid all last year until they beat a fraudulent Cowboys team and now everyone thinks Jordan Love is the second coming of Christ 😂

[@ToyotaChariots]

People are forgetting how inconsistent the packers were last year and they haven’t gotten better. 8-9. Bears also 8-9. Lions 14-3. Vikings 6-11

[@blucollarball3r]

Ill legit say lions 12-5, vikings 10-7, packers 9-8, bears 8-9

[@wbke]

Bears will continue to struggle and will end the season 4th in the division. Lions will undoubtedly win the division. The Vikings will end with a Wildcard spot in the playoffs and will have a better ending season record than the Packers, who will come up short of a playoff spot.

[@wbke]

The Vikings slander on this show is always hilarious. Green Bay and Minnesota are both young developing teams with very high talent ceilings. The only difference between the two teams is how people talk about them: Green Bay is “so exciting with all this potential” but Minnesota is “inexperienced so there’s no shot of success”. Minnesota continues to be one of the most underrated and doubted teams going into this season with a strong playoff potential.

[@ahastar1141]

@@wbke The only difference between the packers and Vikings is that the packers have seemingly settled their franchise quarterback question mark. That team went toe to toe with a highly motivated lions team with nick mullens at the helm. The defense has been improved, and i'd like to think darnold is probably better than mullens. I think the Vikings will remain frisky in the division and probably wont come close to winning it, but will challenge for a wild card spot and will play a big " fun sucker" role to some of the better teams at the end of the season.

[@slimyslim7374]

I don’t understand why they think the Vikings will be bad if Darnold is just decent we win 10 games

[@wbke]

@@slimyslim7374 Exactly. If Darnold is simply decent, we essentially end with a Wildcard slot. Worst case scenario, we have a losing season and JJ starts next year looking better than Jordan Love’s starting season

[@ryankasch5561]

​@@wbkeThat's a big if. Vikings went 7-10 with 4300 yards combined passing last year. Darnold has never gotten that many yards himself, nor been a part of a room that got that much sans this past year where he played one game when Brock Purdy was out. I can see them being 8-9 but I don't see anything better unless McCarthy is that guy and they go on a run in the back half of the year. Decent QB play is much worse than you think, and good QB play is much harder to get than you think. I would know, I'm a bears fan.

[@wagglewiggle]

Lions 15-2 Packers 11-6 Bears 9-8 Vikings 4-13 Don't over think detroit they were a top 3 team last year they fixed their biggest flaw and added talent everywhere elsewhere and they hopefully have a kicker again they are on paper the best team in the nfl and only San Francisco is in their stratosphere in terms of roster talent

[@UNCtarheels71]

Put down the weed 😂

[@Ellersbee]

@@UNCtarheels71 grow a brain

[@UNCtarheels71]

@@Ellersbee “Grow a brain” lol bro thinks the Lions are entitled to a 15-2 season because they finally did something for the first time in three decades. They now have a first place schedule to play and still have significant holes in the pass defense but are somehow gonna win an additional 3 games from when the schedule was much easier!? Those Packers and Bears records seem reasonable but then Vikings winning only 4 games is comical as well 😂

[@Ellersbee]

@@UNCtarheels71 we will finish this discussion come later in the year. Remember you typed this in the comment section ✋🏼🎤

[@UNCtarheels71]

@@Ellersbee Absolutely. I feel very confident in my take and will hold my L if I’m wrong. I’ve seen this happen to teams year in and year out in the NFL. Anything short of having a Tom Brady or Mahomes lead dynasty makes it insanely difficult to repeatedly have success. I will admit if the Lions are gonna win, it needs to happen right now because between Goff’s new contract and all the guys they have currently on rookie contracts wanting to get a payday, the championship window will close very quick.

[@kyleswiz9012]

1. VIKINGS 2. LIONS 3. PACKERS 4. BEARS

[@LionsOnTheHunt313]

Sorry Tom, the LIONS are winning the North again, by at least 2 games, and will remain YOUR KING 👑 💯

[@ryand4168]

Shocking, the Packers fan pick the Packers. I’d like to say as a Democrat I don’t see Biden’s cognitive issues.

[@nickdarr7328]

Im starting to remember why I stopped watching perna