Predicting the Premier League 2024/2025 season

[@fplgregfrost]

I have to click every athletic video then click off until I find the Tifo boys.

[@biggerinofudge]

Every single time

[@thewellsmedia]

😅True

[@FootballAndSuch]

so true

[@iwantgoals1566]

Wish The Athletic will see this comment

[@Dylan-em1zc]

u can hover mouse xD

[@Topav05]

Love how "They would take time to bed in" for Aston Villa's players, but Chelsea with a new manager and new players will be just fine 👍

[@limofootball]

difference in quality matters. Everyone agrees chelsea will struggle to adapt but it doesn't erase the quality gap

[@whatwelearned]

@@limofootball Quality at Chelsea? Pricey doesn't mean good

[@vin8754]

@@limofootball the only player that they have who is consistently showing that quality is palmer

[@hnaku8748]

Chelsea hardly have signed any guaranteed starters, only Neto perhaps. The manager is a question yes.

[@ongeziwebesi23]

It’s a joke mate. Jon is just biased. Villa will surprise a lot of people. I’m a Real Madrid fan but I think Villa will do well

[@davidevans6755]

Chelsea 4th is a bold call…

[@Tyler_Kent]

Chelsea 4th and then says he doesn't like Enzo? Holy cow. I'm thinking they'll be 6ish. GK is going to be an issue IMO as will finishing. (Smoking hot takes, I know ;)

[@ghandibanks]

They were close to finishing 4th last season, its not really a bold take

[@satinge4042]

​@@ghandibanksIt's not the same team really Different coach Very messy squad I dont think they'll reach champions League spot Just my opinion though

[@Billiamwoods]

​@@ghandibanksThey also fired their coach and bought in an entire new team worth of players. For any other team this would be called a rebuilding year and nobody would expect anything, why would Chelsea's clearly insane leadership make you think they can buck that trend? Especially when Newcastle and United comparatively underperformed last season

[@emmanuelsarfogyamfi9625]

They can finish higher

[@JettIRL]

Jon "I cant be wrong about Villa 3 seasons in a row" MacKenzie

[@al-dh5ju]

It’s insane

[@racerdeth]

JJ doing that "Guardiola didn't win the league on 3 occasions..... 3rd one was during COVID" thing again, as if Liverpool didn't have 82 points to City's 57 at the point of the lockdown suspension.

[@theboat2328]

Lads there’s more of a chance of me getting a playing contract at Chelsea than them finishing 4th

[@ph5288]

Well, are you an unknown European goalkeeper?

[@skillkeeper]

​@@ph5288 how are their keepers unknown?

[@boppennn5567]

@@skillkeeper because there’s like 8 or 9 of them lol, it just seems like they’re buying players just to buy players

[@creasicle]

Can we just be clear about something. Liverpool didn't 'win the league during COVID'. The pandemic started in March with Liverpool already miles away. City were well off it that season and COVID isn't an excuse.

[@zeybarur]

Exactly. All-time-highest lead of 25 points in mid February. The league was practically won in like November..

[@Francadam]

I think it was more of a time reference

[@zumateen]

That comment bugged me out, too. As a matter of fact , after covid, Liverpool started to drop points and lost some of the big margin over the rivals and got out of the UCL by atlitico madrid.

[@HumphreysTactico]

Yeah, they actually got worse after the pandemic started

[@sjolson68]

It's always spin wrt to Liverpool. I've not watched it yet, but I'm sure they'll begrudgingly put Liverpool 3rd even with their rewritten history narratives they always trot out regardless of actual results.

[@Luca1927]

Every time I see a team struggling with set pieces such as Tottenham, I think about Rangnick saying that if one third of goals in football are scored from set pieces, teams should dedicate one third of their training sessions to it

[@callumsmith5819]

I guess a 6th of the time would be spent on it otherwise you'd never spend time on attacking

[@ninjalectualx]

Soccer has a lot to learn from the NFL in terms of play design. Lots of tricks to get guys open that aren't being used, most notably the "I'm just running here, totally not setting a screen" screen play

[@badofcheese]

@@ninjalectualxNah.

[@T_K_W]

As a Villa fan, the "losing Luiz is terrible - he was an amazing player" is a sentiment that is true perhaps 50% of the time. He was very inconsistent for us, especially in Europe and his form once Kamara got injured was pretty bad. By the end of the season, Tielemans was putting in consistent 8/10's for us and was far more influential than Luiz. Not to say I wanted to sell Luiz, far from it, but the amount of people acting like he was some generational midfielder feels like hyperbolic stick to beat Villa with and a reason we'll finish further down the table. I think it's interesting as a big thing we have done is fill out the squad with both young (Maatsen, Onana, Barranachea) but also experienced (Barkley) players to make rotation easier whilst maintaining a very strong core of players (Martinez, Konsa, Pau, McGinn, Bailey, Watkins). I also think Emery is being underrated massively, now that Klopp is gone, there is a perfectly reasonable argument that he is the second best manager in the league behind Pep. Do I think we'll reasonably finish 4th again, probably not, but I do think we will finish above the likes of Man U and Chelsea. I'd say 6th would be a more accurate placement, but yh the difference between 6th and 8th could well be 3 points of whatever so is what it is. Good show lads :)

[@glenrobinson10]

I have no idea how Jon watched that Community Shield match & came to the conclusion that United are going to be a low block & counter team...

[@priyanshuhazra8644]

Leeds fan, that's all you need to know

[@adityalohana8631]

This was shot before the Community Shield, right?

[@cogitoy7692]

​@@adityalohana8631nah I'm the beginning they stated they watched the shield.

[@callam4336]

I have no clue why people are even placing them so high. Everyone in sports media is putting them on an average of top 4 or 5 in their predictions. What have they done in their transfer window to warrant that?

[@Hellcure]

Did Jon not realized we signed defenders to avoid playing low block football? Or were de ligt and mazraoui not signed before this video? Also chasing down Ugarte for weeks I think yall should have factor in these things before making an assessment that looks a bit ridiculous at this time.

[@ummhwegottaproblem9125]

West Ham in 15th is outrageous from JJ

[@ptptpt123]

This just proves the well known fact, Jon is smarter than JJ.

[@JasperB12]

really poor

[@fitbathatba]

I think I’m going to be wrong about every single one of these predictions tbh

[@mfundosabela5445]

And Wolves 10th 🥲

[@JasperB12]

@@fitbathatba I'm upset because you put my team low down, not because it's a bad prediction. We could definitely finish 15th if everything goes wrong trying to integrate new players and the wheels fall off. Good video either way.

[@dotunbello]

Jon's united analysis is based on united playing man city twice. Everybody plays man city different

[@FazeelAhmed9]

This is so painful as a spurs fan. Even after JJ predicts us to go 4th. The visual says 5th. Come on man, give us a break

[@stevenlannister184]

The computer was programmed by an Arsenal fan

[@aaronthompson7330]

No games played, still Spursy

[@namansirohia]

Exactly bruv ... I double checked JJ's table to see if he actually put us 4th or he just misspoke

[@AB15151]

lol who cares where he puts us. Why does that matter?

[@Other-stuff-sports-lm1ok]

even not being there on the thumbnail, is so disrespectful, Spurs will surprise to go 2nd or 3rd this season

[@danielyoo828]

2:27 that's not depth, that's death by bloated squad size

[@somdutta7322]

downplaying LFC’s EPL win by saying it was during COVID is odd, that 1.5 year span in which they won UCL and EPL, they were one of the best English team ever.

[@virtuosobertzzi2321]

Nah! Good for sure, great nah

[@Triplemillionseller7454]

Not the best but the worst😂😂😂😂

[@abdullahaanawaleh]

Yeah its a shame. Its an all time team that people are quickly forgetting because covid affected like their final 10 games. Liverpool were one of the most dominant teams ever in the 18/19 season and the majority of 19/20. I think they won every league game in 2019 besides a 2-1 loss to fellow all time great team Man City and a 1-1 draw to rivals United. That 26 out of 27 games won by Liverpool in 19/20 was something unbelievable especially when they thrashed 2nd place Leicester near xmas.

[@tshepo5537]

I don't see West Ham finishing under below top 10

[@jackpayne4170]

Don’t really get JJ’s point about West Ham’s squad not looking good but putting Chelsea 4th after cramming about 60 players into it and a far less proven manager

[@Foxtrot6624]

Exactly, have they both completely forgot what happened when Forrest tried the exact same approach? Bohley is here to volume buy undervalued players, lock them down on crazy long contracts and hope they raise in value as the football market continues to grow exponentially. The guy is literally commodity trading with players, he could not care less about sporting ambition

[@Izzy-it1ys]

a solid half of the players chelsea have are never going to make the first team, theyre players meant for strasbourg and the academy team. its the same thing roman did with vitesse

[@haha_ok_sure]

@@Foxtrot6624 jon seems to have no idea that things like morale matter in football. it's just football manager to him--grab a bunch of good players and eventually it will work out because they're just a bunch of attributes in a fleshy shell.

[@Foxtrot6624]

@@haha_ok_sure The thing is, he’s not totally incorrect about that aspect. Typically, in order to succeed in the modern premier league, you don’t just need elite players and an elite manager, you also need elite structure and a club vision to make sure all the players you recruit are able to play the way the coach wants to. Chelsea have such staggering depth so they should eventually be able to assemble a consistently fit and high quality team regardless of the lack of long term vision and coaches style, but they absolutely must be allowed time to figure out how best to use the massive pool of players. For whatever reason, I believe Bohley believes that sacking Poch and paying the compensation is worth it because it will somehow lead to his player investments be worth more than the sacking fee if Poch was around, same with Potter. The guy just has no sporting ambition outside of banking on football inflation increasing more than the stock market.

[@harrymcmullen2227]

LIVERPOOL DID NOT WIN THE LEAGUE TITLE DURING COVID. Liverpool were 25 points clear after 29 games when the season was paused. Pep didn’t lose the title that year because of covid, which JJ suggests here (around the 40:00 mark.)

[@tejas8719]

I like how Chelsea manager is not even in the thumbnail, nor did you do a sensible transfer series for them this year (coz they aint doing anything sensibly!) Still, 4th is a big call.

[@hnaku8748]

5 points off 4th last season with the most number of injuries in a Chelsea season for a while. Why is 4th a big call? The manager is a question yes, but it was also the case last season.

[@cogitoy7692]

They had enough baldies in the thumbnail for the motif, I reckon. If not he'd be there instead of Emery.

[@viennakrakatoaleipzignumbers]

They've made 5 billion transfers already, don't think sense and sensibility is something they care much for

[@silverheart7964]

​​​​​​​@@hnaku87484th is a massive call. Spurs lost 7 of their last 8 games last season. They couldn't possibly fall off that badly again. And United WILL be better this year, because they can't be much worse and they have brought in players in areas they needed. You still have Villa, and a possible push from another team.You'd have to assume top 3 is set in stone, so you'd have four teams fighting for 4th, with Chelsea being the only ones with a new manager and tactics to adapt to,AGAIN. Also, just to add. With a squad that size, injuries is absolutely NOT a viable excuse,especially when most of theose players are around the same level. Every team has injuries of varying importance. Man City lost De Bruyne for 6 months and Haaland was out for a month or more too. Liverpool were demolished by injuries too. Both teams that finished well above Chelsea.

[@hnaku8748]

@@silverheart7964 Chelsea were affected worse than Spurs. Chelsea also lost 1 out of last 15 PL games. So clearly the current squad aren't absolutely as dire as some outsiders make it to be. Many have underestimated the impact injuries had, Chelsea were among the worst affected and quite a few were to key players. Reece James and Nkunku were out most of season and only returned during that end of season run. Lavia got 30 mins at the start and then was completely out whole season. Cucurella missed 17 overall games with ankle surgery. Enzo was playing with injections, and only got proper treatment close to end of season when it was evidently affecting performances. Similar issues in defence where Fofana was out entire season, while others were inconsistent in appearance too. The 'depth' like Carney and Ugochukwu were also out long term. New manager was there last season too, who many didn't rate. People miss out such contexts. I'm not saying Chelsea are definitely finishing top 4, that's unpredictable. But to say it's a big call is silly, when points wise the difference wasn't much between the nearby teams.

[@somdutta7322]

the Chelsea and West Ham calls are ridiculous 😂

[@pinheadlarry4367]

No way Chelsea finishes 4th

[@adelror3026]

3rd to 8th is highly unpredictable.Newcastle don’t have Europe .Spurs and United have made impressive signings.Liverpool haven’t made any but Arne Slot is too good.Aston Villa with UCL but they made really good signings.West Ham,Brighton and Wolves look very good too

[@i3p973]

People getting mad about any of those teams (maybe bar Liverpool cause they still have a soild spine in Salah, TAA, VVD, Allison) are just being annoying. Easily can see a scenario where all of those teams finish between 3rd and 9th. The PL has just became a lot better with the TV deal and Newcastle getting Saudi money too.

[@seyong01my]

Arne Slot is too good? 😂😂😂

[@katana2-739]

John hates united with every fibre in his body lol

[@saddlebox484]

As every decent human being should

[@cazter901]

@@saddlebox484🤓

[@mjl2904]

@@saddlebox484you have unresolved issues mate

[@TheBoxFromSe7en]

Everyone underestimating Newcastle United.. Champions league football and one of the worst Injury crisis' in the league and they finished 7th. Guehi coming in as Botman returns from injury, decent RW.. Isak getting 25+ goal involments alone..

[@mattnottm8363]

Came for a lack of informed Forest analysis and wasn't dissapointed 🤣🤣 - "big spenders" when we have a negative net spend (but I guess that term is only saved for Liverpool or Chelsea) - previous "big spending hasn't really helped us" ..... I'd say it did just by the fact we're in our third Premier League season with a squad far better than what got us promoted. - Giggling about "£40m for Elliott Anderson" when the fee was actually £35m ..... which can then be reduced even further if you take away the £15-£20m Newcastle paid for Vlachodimos. - "PSR comes in to play" .... oh well, it's lucky we have two of the Prems hottest prospects in MGW and Murrilo, nevermind others

[@annbuckley8749]

There is no better host than Joe Devine. So glad to have this show back

[@diamess]

There we land

[@RPOTI954]

Come inside

[@damobart15]

Here we skedaddle

[@anwarariffin4998]

there we smile!

[@TheBlackJerome]

There we waffle

[@kisshore3853]

Pep's head in the thumbnail 😂😂

[@david88]

Captain America and the Avengers 😅

[@arindambaruah2320]

😂

[@will_from_pa]

The A just blends into his forehead 💀

[@ggates2500]

A for asterisk.

[@kisshore3853]

@@ggates2500 I thought alpha.

[@kyledawson1657]

Dominic Solanke will help with set piece defending. Harry Kane was so underrated for that.

[@jacoblloyd3768]

West Ham down in 15th is absolutely shocking 😂😂😂!

[@andersandersen6930]

Having Chelsea so high made me stop listening. Saying Villa needs time but not Chelsea...

[@al-dh5ju]

The disrespect is inevitable

[@Kenosis87]

Newcastle top 3. Watch out! 🤙🏽

[@thecrimsonlip53]

⚫️⚪️⚫️⚪️

[@bertiew6771]

I can see them finishing above Chelsea, Spurs and ManU.

[@hjc9912]

Newcastle being slept on so much. Their no.1 keeper, best centre half, 3 best no 8's and several squad players out for majority of last season. 17yo Miley had to play 2000 PL mins, Dubravka is one of the worst keepers in the league , Emil Krafth or Jamaal Lascelles started regularly at centre half, Longstaff had to play nearly every minute, Gordon had to play as a 9 at times, and Howe couldn't even make a sub through December while playing twice a week and still only finished 8pts off Villa in 4th

[@maadhav_]

how do you know something like that couldn’t happen again. That many injuries probably suggests that there’s more to it than bad luck. Maybe bad physios or sttength coaches?

[@hjc9912]

@@maadhav_ probably because I’ve been watching football (and Newcastle) for 20yrs and have never ever seen an Injury crisis like it. They were all freak contact injuries, we had 2 shoulders break / dislocate (Murphy and Pope), a bone under Barnes’ toe break & 2 back breaks (Anderson and Burn) in a month, not to mention a betting ban to Tonali, Wilson tearing his peck muscle, 2 ACL’s both to centre halves, I could go on…

[@JFriisN]

It's ironic because I feel like you're too focused on Newcastle and 'sleeping' on all the other competitors for the 4th spot. A lot of the things you point out are also relevant to the rest of the teams.

[@tomsco7]

As a Arsenal fan I honestly think Newcastle are in better shape for a top 4 push than the likes of Utd/Chelsea etc. As said on this video, they have a world class 6, world class striker, mixed with players like Pope/Trippier/Botman/Joelinton/Gordon, I see them doing well

[@hjc9912]

@@JFriisN We were the 3rd best side by xPTS in 22/23 and the 4th best last season. I think Liverpool and Chelsea will both drop off dramatically under new managers, I think Man United will be better but don’t think top 4, I think Spurs will be good and I’m not sure on Villa because there’s been so much change in that side. What I do know is that if Howe can finish 7th with everything thrown at him last season, he can definitely finish in the top 4 again with a much better squad than he had when he last did it and with one game a week again.

[@sullivanfraser9823]

So much bias in favor of traditional top 6. Chelsea and Man utd are in chaos. meanwhile Emery has done great things with Villa they have momentum, Newcastle were a top side for the majority of the season. Fulham could surprise

[@notharryhindsight7746]

Which chaos are Man utd in?😅 I'd argue utd are more stable now than they've been in a long time.

[@memebyerin4712]

@@notharryhindsight7746 Man Utd were struggling badly last couple of seasons, but i have never seen a more chaotic side than Last Year. Not a Man Utd fan, but i couldn't turn away from them. Entertaining for all the wrong reasons. You're hopeful about what they've built, but don't trick yourself into think you aren't literally Chaos Incarnate.

[@notharryhindsight7746]

@memebyerin4712 struggling badly for the last couple of seasons😂🤣. Utd finished 3rd and won a trophy the season before last. Had the most injuries last season and finished 8th but still won a trophy. I take it you consider every team that performed worse in those 2 seasons to be in total chaos too. 😂

[@memebyerin4712]

@@notharryhindsight7746 I only say they did badly the last couple seasons because that's what every Man Utd fan says about their club. I'm taking them at face value that they think they've underperformed expectations. And if you're in denial about Man Utd being in unique chaos then you've not been paying attention. The highs and lows of their last season have been phenomenal.

[@notharryhindsight7746]

@memebyerin4712 and utd fans are optimistic this season. If you were listening to them like you say, you'd know. All clubs have had up and downs the last few seasons except City. So I don't know why you are acting like it's a problem specific to utd. In any case they have new owners, new backroom staff and have had a good transfer window. They'll be just fine. You seem to be the one in denial.😂

[@benalmond5463]

I love the chemistry between the 3 of you it’s amazing to see you back doing regular videos together!!!!

[@Martin-dl8hc]

I think Newcastle are very underrated this season

[@GuitarJammerJohn]

I don’t get why so many pundits seem to be predicting Chelsea to do well it’s like they’ve forgotten what an absolute basket case of a club Chelsea are at the moment. They have a manager with no more prem experience than any of the promoted teams they have a ridiculous oversized squad which I think is never a good thing and lost a much better manager. If Palmer gets injured I think they’ll be lucky to even get in the top half.

[@shorx9199]

idk either to be honest they just love dikriding that club

[@seyong01my]

They did the same last season

[@leestephenfitzpatrick6373]

15th JJ, seriously, OK none of us know how the J-Lo style of play will work in the premiership, but to say it's not a good squad.......have a word with ya'self, I've supported West Ham 50+ years, this is the best transfer window I've ever seen.

[@patrickmullins7981]

Absolutely everybody is missing the fact that United will have 10+ players they didnt have last season between signings and players returning from injury. Also United wont revert back to the way Ten Hag played in his first season , if he was going to do that he would have done it last season with Johnny Evans, Maguire Lindelof and Csemiro at centre back, theres no way he does that with Martinez De Ligt and Yoro there.

[@hnaku8748]

Similar applies to Newcastle and Chelsea. Nkunku (the supposed marquee signing for Chelsea) for example was injured most of last season, along with other players like Reece James and Lavia. Other persistent injuries to squad players too. Newcastle had UCL last season, they are without Europe this time. Injuries affected them as well.

[@patrickmullins7981]

@@hnaku8748 Newcastle yes, I think they are being slept on as well. Not so much Chelsea, that's a mess.

[@hnaku8748]

@@patrickmullins7981 Fair enough.

[@markwebb7576]

Is it really that many? Who did you include in the 10+ players?

[@patrickmullins7981]

@@markwebb7576 4 signings De Ligt Yoro Mazraoi Zirkzee. Players who barely played at all last season Martinez Shaw Malacia Mount , players who played for half a season at best Mainoo Maguire Amad . That's 11 with a midfield signing definitely coming in before the window closes and Collyer and Amass from the academy who played all preseason who look capable of playing if all comes to all. Not league winning but it's enough to not have a disastrous season like last year.

[@benjaminngopwaamos6878]

One of the bad signs I've already started seeing with Maresca is his insistence on inverting fullbacks. Reece James as an inverted fullback was a godawful sight.

[@LwandleDlamini_]

Newcastle exist lol, as an arsenal fan apart from city and liverpool the only other team im realistically worried about actually pushing us is newcastle solid defence midfield amd attack. Really only missing a winger or two and a defender at the MINIMUM

[@thomasnielsen5580]

yeah, and less injuries. But they will have no european competition this year, so I think they will be massively better this season.

[@rabonared]

Emery was the only one took all 6 points from Arsenal

[@LwandleDlamini_]

@rabonared Good luck with CL this season it won't be a benefit to your league position you've got to choose one and knowing emery it's not the prem.

[@rabonared]

@@LwandleDlamini_ I don't support Villa

[@LwandleDlamini_]

@rabonared OK cool man I still stand by my point

[@ulaytube9953]

Pep did not lose the title “during covid”, City were 27 points behind before the lockdown…most brewdog take I’ve heard

[@matthewmcneany]

I think Newcastle might be going to surprise some people with coming out collectively better, despite not obviously strengthening the squad massively. The squad is a touch older, yes, but in a way that might reduce value but actually improve performance. They underperformed their underlying numbers last year (i.e. were 'unlucky') and also have as much claim to having last season stymied by injury as anyone in the league and I just think Howe is so good at the psychological manipulation to get the best out of his players that I think last season will be an impious to push on rather than fall off. I also think Howe is a micromanager who is so much better when he has a full week to prepare for games.

[@Jinmenken515]

Everyone sleeping on Newcastle and Palace, both can find themselves in Europe at the end of the season easily imo

[@Sasuke-Dono]

That Liverpool bit is weird? How many teams in the Premier League will actually press them? Saying "in the first season theyll be able to bait the press" is ludicrous, teams wont suddenly start pressing Liverpool because Klopp is gone 90% of the time they will play against a mid to low block. Lazy analysis ngl

[@mushroomking19]

90% of them, thats a bit weird, so only 2 teams will attempt to press Liverpool.

[@Sasuke-Dono]

@@mushroomking19 Liverpools weakness is facing a compact block sir, they have powerful runners in transition and play their best when they have space to exploit. So yes I'm pretty sure City and Arsenal are the only teams well drilled enough to effectively press Liverpool and pin them back. Hence 90% of the time they will play against a mid to low block

[@mushroomking19]

@@Sasuke-Dono They were beaten convincingly by Atalanta by pressing and United beat them by countering. Are you saying Atalanta is better than the bottom 17 teams in the prem? I remember a couple of times Liverpool and a great counter, with space to exploit last season, but s**t the bed

[@Sasuke-Dono]

@@mushroomking19 are Atalanta in the premier league? Not anywhere were European competitions mentioned in my statements, and Liverpool losing to Atalanta was way more about Klopps inability to change tactically when needed. United beat them by countering? How does that statement help your case? Yes they beat them by absorbing pressure and hitting them on the break. That is not a press.

[@user-ss3kf7hp7j]

west ham on 15th is outrageous and i'm not a hammer myself, but 15th?! i reckon they have better squad now than united for sure

[@gentleken7864]

Tottenham's set piece problem is Vicario. I watched at least three Spurs games last season and each of them, including Burnley, targetted Vicario and he flapped the whole time. He may be a good shot-stopper but he's awful at corners and free kicks booted in near him.

[@amazonianstories]

i always said it has to be him but alot of their fans get angry alot when i mention it another area i feel needs huge improvement is the midfield and defense they don't have a complement for Micky van de ven and udogie also a holding no 6 is needed and none of their players does the job... They're even lucky they got the answer to James maddison shenanigans and poor form and Bergvall is the answer so spurs are very unpredictable at the moment but putting the likes of Chelsea and united in very early at this time is delusional

[@leoholder7839]

Good shot stopper😂 he’s an incredible shot stopper

[@sydspurs]

Thats a very bad take. Vicario isnt the issue, its utter lack of support he has around him. You go to the FA cup vs City, where City score in final minutes. In 6 yard area when corner was taken, there were just 3 city players & 7 Spurs player. And Vicario was blocked by Diaz so brazenly with none of the 7 spurs player even not knowing about the block. Ball goes up, Ake attacks. None of the 7 pick him up. When Vicario tries to cover, Diaz just stands in way. Goal. Thats been pattern of play - even if Vicario isnt tall, problem could be easily solved by proper organization. Unfortunately for Spurs, Ange doesnt even acknowledge the issue and its the one thing his Spurs career will die on.

[@danielreale6657]

@@sydspurs Watch the games against Everton last year. They absolutely bodied him at corners and set pieces. He is weak and little. He needs a big body to protect him which is not ideal but he's a decent enough/capable keeper. I have him in the top 10 keepers in the league but he's not a top 5 keeper.

[@FriendlyFire21346]

@@danielreale6657he’s 6’3 lol. The problem is that none of the other players help him out

[@ZachJones198]

West Ham at 15th feels like a prediction that literally everything goes horribly wrong

[@ninjalectualx]

West Ham should be forced to start Zouma every game. If they stood by him through the cat thing they need to stand by him now!

[@domhuckle]

John's mental - if utd's first choice centre backs play the majority of the games we'll walk into the top 4

[@darthbauer5153]

Over who? I assume Villa, Spurs, Brighton and Chelsea just lay down for you? There’s a lot of teams in between 8th and 4th that are at least as good if not outright better than United.

[@JustMeSach]

For everyone unsure about Chelsea - they finished 6th last season, under a system that didn’t suit most players (bar Palmer and Gallagher), were constantly bailed out by Palmer, and had one of the worst injury situations in all of Europe. This season they have an admittedly inexperienced manager in Maresca but one that plays football that suits most of these players, have signed some good options like Neto (and maybe Osimhen), and have Lavia and Nkunku basically as new players. If the injury situation stays in control which it has in the preseason (something that didn’t happen last year), given the quality of their depth, they will only be better. I expect 5th place, but I wouldn’t be shocked with a finish on 4th.

[@mungowinkworth5824]

Love Fulham so much that not a single word was spoken about them. I love the Athletic but surely you have to give a one liner at least to each club.

[@TheStf99]

They didn't predict our 3rd they didn't predict our 8th, they won't predict our treble.

[@azeemkhadam]

Jon's analysis or predictions has more value for me than any other pundit in current football world, but predicting CFC at 4th is wild man. 😮

[@gofannon1943]

GoDAMMit! Watched the whole video waiting for it and there were zero seconds spent on Fulham 😑

[@renandmrtns]

City Arsenal Tottenham Liverpool Aston Villa Newcastle West Ham Crystal Palace Manchester United Chelsea Bournemouth Brighton Everton Brentford Fulham Wolverhampton Notthingham Forest Leicester Ipswich Southampton

[@siddharthatalukdar4227]

My predictions from a Man Utd fan 1 - Manchester City 2 - Arsenal 3 - Liverpool 4 - Aston Villa 5 - Tottenham Hotspur 6 - Manchester United 7 - Newcastle United 8 - Chelsea 9 - West Ham United 10 - Brighton & Hove Albion 11 - Wolves 12 - Crystal Palace 13 - Bournemouth 14 - Everton 15 - Brentford 16 - Fulham 17 - Leicester City 18 - Nottingham Forest 19 - Southampton 20 - Ipswich

[@wesleymurray3634]

Man united fans wayyyy to optimistic

[@TomJ_3]

We'll be in the title race unil Feb... Just watch

[@seyong01my]

I'm happy to see so many united haters writing us off

[@Cian_McGrath]

its amazing that they spoke to *that many* United fans and none of them spoke a lick of sense

[@noobmixups9102]

"They have so many depth player" proceed to show a whole Chelsea squads from 2000 until 2028

[@ani_mal4]

United at 6-7 after having the best transfer window in many years. I dont think so. United for sure up in the top 4

[@Fratnip]

I need someone to tell me where Jon Mackenzie gets his sweatshirts

[@lyndonroper6013]

bornagainprints footy shiz section

[@starofmadness8307]

How are they so confident that Liverpool will finish 3rd, no new signings & a new manager is in charge.

[@Sasuke-Dono]

Liverpool are comfortably the 3rd best team in the league. Those factors might mean they don't challenge for the title but that doesn't suddenly make Villla/Tottenham/United better than them be realistic

[@benmorris118]

The players we have are good, we have depth, young players coming through. Good preseason suggests the players are adapting well. Don't need to destabilise with more players. 1 extra cdm or a left side cb to shadow vvd would be nice, but not necessary

[@mysportsroundup5387]

@@Sasuke-Donothe season before last United and Newcastle finished above Liverpool, so it’s not out of the question. I’d say Klopp overachieved with that team last season, with him now gone there’s no certainty that they hold onto third. Out of the top half teams Newcastle and United were the most injury hit squads. With a bit more luck in the fitness department I don’t see why either of them can’t be challenging Liverpool, along with spurs and Villa. Chelsea are the only team I have absolutely no read on whatsoever. Just a confused mess of a club.

[@kylesteyn7479]

Liverpool would win the league without injuries last season don't be so daft

[@thefootballpunnedit]

Settled squad… leaders… loads of match winners.

[@iwantgoals1566]

The boys are back!

[@johnnyenglish2458]

Best intro yet lads

[@nickpurves9363]

JJ please move your laptop off the end of the table 😂

[@iamafool9423]

I wonder how many people complaining in the comments saw that opening bit and thought those United fans were being way too optimistic.

[@brucethomas4324]

It would be interesting to do a follow-up show with JJ & Jon to see if they would change any of their predictions from 2 weeks ago

[@QazwerDave]

City Arsenal Liverpool Spurs United Newcastle Villa

[@dipteshpawa6549]

I think United trying to sell McTominay and bring in Ugarte maybe a risky move, and that’s where the quality of squad depth would matter, however, for this season with the defensive and forward reinforcements, it’s most of what can realistically happen. A proper 6 to cover for Casemiro‘s injuries and game time would be crucial and if Collyer and Amass get minutes and good game improvements, McTominay‘s move away maybe a good decision for him and the club in the long term.

[@yllihasanbelli2265]

Mctominay doesn’t offer anything on the pitch other than attacking positioning

[@dipteshpawa6549]

@@yllihasanbelli2265 yes and that’s why he’s important as a squad player especially considering last season where many goals were not scored by the forward line

[@neilfox9540]

As a Villa fan it makes me laugh we keep hearing this lazy narrative how Newcastle struggled last season in Champipns League and therefore so will Villa. Also the anchoring of 'big clubs' Chelsea and Man Utd will just magically find form, there's no real logic to any of it.

[@kingsfootballshow6233]

I think a lot of experts are overlooking Chelsea lack of pnp and Height other than the cb and gk they have a lot of short players. James, Gusto, Cuca, Neto, Enzo,DBH, Caiceido, Nkunku who is going to help them in transition and set pieces against?

[@DejaVuJT]

Everyone has written us off (ITFC) for the last 2 seasons. Used to it by now . Bring it on.

[@user-qj1rb7nv9y]

Arne slot win premier league ❤❤❤❤

[@MriyaVR]

No Big Ange in the thumbnail. Didn't watch.

[@callam4336]

I’m actually laughing at how badly people are underrating Spurs this season 😂

[@Gggg-cq1ih]

🤫🤫🤫

[@hilmi21]

Thank you for underestimating AVFC capabilities.

[@somdutta7322]

United fan saying they will finish 2nd 😂

[@whats-gucci]

Why does COVID always get referenced when mentioning 19/20 title win as if Liverpool weren’t already like 25 points clear of city at the time….

[@angusmoore2831]

Westham in 15th 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I have heard it all- banging on about how the team has been built to be direct- yeh mate that’s why they have overhauled the squad. One of the best attacks in the league. Outrageous shout

[@yoyoyodaboy]

This was really fun and the perfect programming to get me hyped for the new season! Thank you guys! I've been a huge fan for several years, you guys rule.

[@Jinmenken515]

JJ talking about Spurs starting well, they always do, but they repeatedly bottle it every year and find themselves scrambling to salvage something of their season

[@danielmerriman8066]

I often respect Jon's footballing opinions, and picking United to finish 6th is fine, but I just don't understand his rationale that they're going to revert to "low block and counter". I mean, which part of signing Lenny Yoro (a defender with immense recovery speed ideal for playing a higher line,) Joshua Zirkzee (a highly technical forward who thrives in a false 9 position), and Mathias De Ligt (an Ajax-schooled defender who can control the play with his range of passing) suggests United are just going to sit deep and try to hit opponents on the counter all season?

[@premiumhighlights5150]

eth has been adamant with his ideologies even when we had maguire and evans as the starting cbs. Dont see the rationale in saying united will play a low block.

[@ryan_lmao]

@@premiumhighlights5150 exactly, ten hag was persisting playing such a high press all last season. our big tactical issues were all because of the lower line we had to play because of evans and maguire etc not working in a higher line, meaning there were huge gaps in midfield between a lower defensive line and a high press

[@cogitoy7692]

I like Jon's analysis but I'd suggest he has a slight bias against Utd and/or ETH. That or he just doesn't keep up with their football, which would surprise me. ETH has explicitly stated that he finds preparing alternative tactics to be a waste of time, so why should we assume he's going to try to survive with a low block if that's not where the future for the team lies? It's a weird take.

[@laurynasbudinas4585]

Exactly. Don't forget swapping Wan Bissaka, counter attack system player for Mazrouai to suit ETH system better. These guys either are very bias against Erik Ten Hag or cant be bother to critically think

[@tec4321-e5o]

people think its easy to play in klopp's system as a CB, on top of that without a specialist DM in front🤦‍♂..vvd is still the best

[@Ruben-so7pu]

So United is getting rid of players like Bissaka, Lindelof and maybe Maguire, signing Yoro, De Ligt and Mazraoui with the clear intention to go with the high line but that goof says we're gonna do the low block and counter. Lazy analysis, just look at the players United is signing and the players United is selling. Ain´t that hard.

[@abrahamdraper1911]

Todibo NOT a key signing for West Ham? Oookay 🧐

[@vipertoasties8017]

THE BOYS ARE BACK FUCKINNN YESSS

[@catinsidethehead]

Actually, since Haaland's arrival, Arsenal has been closer to prime Man City than Man City itself

[@martinsolden1595]

When city had their full squad, they gained more points than any other team. And now gundogan is back.. . A lot will come down to Arsenal staying fit in key roles for 38 gameweeks.

[@gentleken7864]

I predict that the Premier League will 'uhm' and 'ahh' about Man City and their 115 charges for another season. Putting it off, meaning City get their fifth PL title in five years, and all decent normal fans pulling their hair out.

[@Matty-kelly]

What about us baldys? We can not pull out our hair

[@eduardocruz6993]

Chelsea have a new manager and players they’ll be fine. Villa will need time 🤔

[@km3455]

The EPL, the battle for the No.2 spot commences yet again.

[@benayu2577]

That intro was hilarious 😂

[@qartheros]

Funny how hardly any of those man u fans had northern accents.

[@flodol10]

For Manch United`s part new defenders is giving them opertunity to stay higer up the pitch with defenders and close the gap between defense an midfield.

[@TheAlphaDingo]

More chance Chelsea have 4 different managers during the season than finishing 4th

[@aramanon]

Got to say, Ipswich and Saints at least looked like Premiership teams at the weekend whereas, even from just highlights, Sheff Utd and Burnley both looked off pace, undersize and behind the game and eye wateringly unlucky all year. With a bit more aggression and sharpness for a whole 90 can see them both teams getting some points and conpeting with Everton, Fulham and Forest for 16th and 17th place.

[@sneezedebris6481]

I see Forest on the up this season. Last season, there were points deductions, a serious of terrible referreeing calls, and a crazy number of goals conceded from set pieces. This summer, they seem to to be ok for PSR, they look like they're addressing the set piece issue, and they've hung onto their best players. Instead of it being the crazy spendathon from the couple of summers, this summer has been about smaller tweaks to an established nucleus. In contrast, many of the mid-table teams who finished above them last season have lost a number of top players - Palace have lost Olise, Bournemouth have lost Solanki, Fulham have lost Palhinha and Wolves have lost Neto. They all will need to make a major adjustment as a result. Who knows, maybe Brentford will be added to that list if Toney goes.

[@TheIncredibleBeard_]

I think Tottenham will find this season hard. They play a style that leaves them exposed at the back. Last season teams were caught out and I think this season teams will be more prepared to counter their style

[@honestfeelings99]

Spurs to win the league. Let's go!!!

[@BreadMV14]

😂

[@tophev07]

“He’s trimmed a lot of the fat” my man, Casemiro is still there

[@jonathanlaidlaw8084]

FD Legend chris Hamil being the producer of such a great pod just makes sense