In this episode of Crime Watch Daily: A man sworn to serve and protect takes the life of a woman and her unborn child.
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@carolauzar237720 күн бұрын
You need to investigate Ellen Greenburg case. She was a teacher in Philadelphia who was murdered and ruled a suicide. She was stabbed 22 times. It was ruled a suicide. 10 of those stab wounds to the back were post mortem. Her family is looking for Justice. My daughter is a teacher who worked with her and said she wasn’t suicidal. Please if you can help the family.
@scottwilson220 күн бұрын
How the hell
@carolauzar237720 күн бұрын
Her fiancé is the son of a man who owned a sporting goods store called I Goldberg and her fiancé is a Hollywood producer. His father is a friend of Josh Shipero who is the governor of Pa. It’s about who you know. That’s why the family needs help.
@brookepersichetti256520 күн бұрын
I do believe it’s being re-investigated currently. I want to say I heard this on Annie Elise’s podcast.
@Alexismdh20 күн бұрын
the cops are insanely crazy if they think someone stabbed themselves 22 times! Women take pills or in rare cases use a gun. THIS NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED TO THE FULLEST!!! RIH sweet teacher🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💐💐💐💐❤️
@ivannovotny455220 күн бұрын
@carolauzar Remember that case, it was beyond comprehension and absolutely pure insenity.
@deanna22s20 күн бұрын
Jenny was my childhood friend. From elementary to high school. She was so sweet and kind to everyone. She loved using colored ink pens, especially pink and purple. She is greatly missed! ❤
@stormyg916920 күн бұрын
Good people pass away; the godly often die before their time. But no one seems to care or wonder why. No one seems to understand that God is protecting them from the evil to come. -Isaiah 57:1-2
@ladyterrestrial167919 күн бұрын
Yes that little detail about the ink pens really broke my heart. It just goes to show that these suspicious suicides really need to be investigated thoroughly and the police really need to listen to the family, friends and all the people who truly knew them best! Because sadly sometimes these killers can actually get away with it. I’m so glad that didn’t happen in this case. I just hope the family and friends find some peace and justice in this, although I’m sure the pain never truly fades away 😢✌🏾❤️
@somechick198019 күн бұрын
I’ve seen this story a few times and it reminds me of how excited I was when I found out I was pregnant for the first time. The child’s father was controlling. He once said that if I didn’t stay with him, I wasn’t having the baby…I refused to see him when I was pregnant because I was afraid. When I was 8 or so my eldest sister was murdered by her boyfriend. Pregnancy can be a very dangerous time for a pregnant woman. Very sad.
@TimJameson-jg8sl19 күн бұрын
She grew up to be a baby trapping 304
@TimJameson-jg8sl19 күн бұрын
@@stormyg9169That's crazy to say this lady was godly.She clearly was loose and immoral.She wasn't even dating anyone.She planned on baby trapping.That man so she could just collect child support
@MichelleAlexandria-EM20 күн бұрын
there's always at least one delusional family member. Where is the DNA and evidence? Talk about being willfully stupid.
@dwoodstwin20 күн бұрын
“Do your own research”
@funwithFred20 күн бұрын
Stupidity does not fall far from the Tree in this family, huh?
@somechick198019 күн бұрын
For real! I feel like his ego tricked him into believing that he’d get away with it.
@idrinkthewatersofain511419 күн бұрын
clearly she's delustional cos she thinks that hairstyle was a good idea.
@notsure383813 күн бұрын
She's a typical Michigan Karen. Too many in this state.
@jenowens999020 күн бұрын
That sister sounds delusional! 🙄🤦🏽♀️ She would do better just by saying nothing! 👀
@danniedabler307220 күн бұрын
That's exactly what I thought too...
@dwoodstwin20 күн бұрын
“my brother was setup” “why would someone do that” …… reasons
@user-gj9pe4ly5d20 күн бұрын
Right! "" It is better to remain Silent and be Thought a fool, Than to open your mouth and remove All doubt "" Yup!
His sister is crazy. He met her and killed her. He has no remorse
@CV-24115 күн бұрын
And thinks people are stupid!
@Youland-qx9hb5 күн бұрын
Absolutely
@boiperfection479720 күн бұрын
That’s probably the dumbest cop to ever serve. Talk about arsenal of evidence 😱
@DaughterofAnubis19 күн бұрын
One of the dumbest
@swisstopia19 күн бұрын
Many cops were losers in high school.
@PneumaNoose19 күн бұрын
They’re a dime a dozen
@billiebergmann883517 күн бұрын
and his surprise, when he learned, that the mother knows about him. I mean, how can he think that this poor woman wouldn`t talk about this with her family?
@leewhitbeck7917 күн бұрын
This so often happens when a chief of police is ( allegedly ) running an illegal private security business. These illegal businesses use our tax payer equipment, desks, lights, telephones, cop man power and in many cases double bill the city and bill the paying customer that needs the private security services. The cop then pays the button nose chief of police a bit something something.. This is called RACKETEERING. 3 OF the criteria for RACKETEERING is hierarchy, intimidation, and fraud. There is no time off for bad cops. To the public it looks like they are on paid vacation, but mostly the cops work this illegal private security business. The only one fooled here is YOU!!!!!! The Chief of police needs a bad cop to work an illegal private security business. It's a kind of brotherhood. " Hay bro we have something on each other", a mutual agreement. Also, most cops drink vodka to sleep at night. An alcoholic cop may have pulled you over and you would never know. Or could you? The big giveaway is the menacing, belligerent, confrontational, aggressive dangerous grainy VODKA VOICE. When you get pulled over , make as little contact with an alcoholic cop. Like any alcoholic, they are dangerous with a license to carry a gun and kill. They will testilie against you and get away with it. You are dealing with a gang with a badge.. Sometimes , with corrupt judges there are many conflicts of interest, but you will never know. Sink your teeth into this and pass it on....And please, learn some law because obviously, the cops follow protocol and not the Constitution.. Get Constitutional Law for dummies or any book. Cops don't have continuing education. Because of the rampant alcoholism, they should be breathalyzed after every incident and before they can start our tax payer police cars.. Many of these guys are void of empathy and murder people without a second thought. We the People need to enforce the Constitutional Law.
@violagama948820 күн бұрын
For her to think her brother is set up that's beyond delusional I understand u love ur brother but he needs to rot in hell for what he did his evil. Rest in peace beautiful Jenny 🙏
@synthiaofulster838820 күн бұрын
So .. Debbie. Sit down Debbie. You're making an ass of yourself.
@carliebrock542220 күн бұрын
“Where is the dna where is the evidence” literally right there.
@theresalennon99405 күн бұрын
Ikr?? SO MUCH OF IT
@ashleymartin80525 күн бұрын
Literally! And to kill her where his fellow officer know is one of his places he likes to park and sit went radio silent the whole time her "suicide" was happening its just he knee her family was going to say his name how did he think he was a to get away with this
@fitnessbyconnie20 күн бұрын
Debbie is delulu like her brother too
@danniedabler307220 күн бұрын
You can tell they we're raised the same lol
@DBZluvz5 күн бұрын
it's probably congenital!
@Shamangrl9 күн бұрын
That was his son and he had no remorse, sadness, no feeling for his tiny little baby.
@Kakwasi7 күн бұрын
The bear
@SavitaS-h4k16 сағат бұрын
most cops lack empathy
@gr8tefaith18 күн бұрын
It amazes me how someone who doesn’t want a child just doesn’t use protection 🤷🏾♂️
@KayleeArmy9 күн бұрын
Right... like why
@ds82907 күн бұрын
The same reason a person is stupid enough to have/leave all of the incriminating evidence. Pure stupidity and ignorance.
@BlackStump1727 күн бұрын
He may have thought that she was using contraceptives or was in too much hurry to care ?
@Kakwasi7 күн бұрын
Or inform their partner they do not want a child for the partner to take care
@Kakwasi7 күн бұрын
@@BlackStump172you ought to find out if you do not want a child. A child is a 18yr or more responsibility
@pamwalls139920 күн бұрын
Ken,s sister is blinded by him being her brother and I guess she also thinks somebody put his finger prints on her car too and then they added the injury to his finger print to frame him, come on she just didn't expect her brother to do something so evil. That poor woman and poor little baby was so close to being born and their lives were snuffed out by a person who chose a profession to protect and serve but took two lives cause he didn't want his wife and family to fine out he was a liar, cheater and now a murderer and that's the worst part is people trusted him, he is evil and he is a disgusting monster. Rip 💗💙
@Aisha-uy2vl3 күн бұрын
They always seem to commit murder to cover for adultery! It is so common.
@sheilarainey21820 күн бұрын
Why is his sister embarrassing her self with all that crap coming out her mouth Guarantee his wife believe it was the creep
@BlackStump1727 күн бұрын
I will bet she had been abused by him at home .
@danniedabler307220 күн бұрын
Yeah..his sister, smh....why even ask her opinion.
@danniedabler307220 күн бұрын
She's as big of a liar as he is. But they were raised together. So...
@TheNinnyfee18 күн бұрын
Imagine being too daft to stay faithful or at least use contraception and then you kill because of it on top of everything...A woman that would never have bothered you. What a genius that wrecked two families (hers and his own) and the reputation of his police team. Glad they didn't cover for him.
@BlackStump1727 күн бұрын
This obviously was not in Massachusetts!
@jilliansherrard21523 сағат бұрын
Jenny also knew better….both ruined so many lives due to reckless behavior….stupid…don’t mess with married people…it never ends well and you will destroy lives
@ceciliaaznaran331720 күн бұрын
Love triangles never end well.
@ivydickson759620 күн бұрын
Hardly love triangle. Delusional, self entitled cop., more like it.
@TRed3298 күн бұрын
His sister is dangerous. If she had kids, she is that mother to condone their wrongdoings and blame everybody else.
@Vesterlyng7 күн бұрын
He is sooooooo guilty! Go away, sister.
@GazaRatts19 күн бұрын
Debbie Dennis please go get the help you so badly need
@em774520 күн бұрын
She fought for her and her baby life. Ladies leave married men alone if he really wanted you he will divorce and be with you.
@TNT-km2eg19 күн бұрын
You don't say !
@shanabenoit322616 күн бұрын
Agreed
@shaunamichele9 күн бұрын
Men will kill women for no reason. Stop victim blaming.
@Kakwasi7 күн бұрын
Let a married come with a divorce decree
@nextupafrica989720 күн бұрын
What is utterly disgusting abt these cases are the killers know they’re guilty without a doubt, everyone knows it & they still defend themselves and play innocent. Absolutely evil & pathetic May Jenny rest in peace
@lishik771219 күн бұрын
May Jenny & poor little Braxton, too. His death was brutal as well.😢
@ArthurB2612 күн бұрын
"In Michigan you can't be charged with 1st degree murder of an unborn child" WTF Michigan? That baby had the same right to life as any other child and should have the same rights and protections under the law as any other child. Disgusting and shameful. Do better, Michigan.
@screechingonions236511 күн бұрын
That’s liberals for ya
@itsablessingbeinganamerica140110 күн бұрын
Life is not valuable in USA unfortunately. Liberals one day with regret one day for contributing of innocent babies via abortion
@LoveOfLam8 күн бұрын
Because then abortion would be off the table, can't have it both ways - cheers Harris voters
@Icantthinkofaname-qk3fs3 күн бұрын
No the baby does not have the right to live the baby is not alive yet the baby is not even a baby yet so shut up you cannot claim a fetus is a baby and eat animals at the same time
@ArthurB262 күн бұрын
@@Icantthinkofaname-qk3fs They are alive, it's basic biology. Life is a quality that distinguishes matter that has biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from matter that does not. It is defined descriptively by the capacity for homeostasis, organisation, metabolism, growth, adaptation, response to stimuli, and reproduction. An unborn baby or fetus, whichever terminology you prefer, is a living being. Regardless of your position on abortion, you should be able to acknowledge basic facts. To say they're not alive to deny basic science. And not to argument semantics but fetus is latin for offspring. It may sound more medical but it literally means baby in a different language. I understand this is a sensitive topic for you and you're clearly emotional but you can't just deny reality and tell people to shut up like that's some kind of argument. You can argue whether or not it's moral to end the life of an unborn child but you can't deny it's an unborn child. That's just anti-science.
@captureallen863220 күн бұрын
His sis is delusional. I understand she doesn't want to believe her brother could do something like that, but come on now!!.
@MichelleAlexandria-EM20 күн бұрын
i don't understand how this guy is so dumb. He's a cop. He knows they can easily find out if you had an affair and who the father of the baby is. So he should have come clean and had a better story.
@tiahenry474320 күн бұрын
Cops are not that bright.
@funwithFred20 күн бұрын
Thank god for ignorance in some cases, huh?
@tivvy970820 күн бұрын
Cops think they're smart. They can't even spell IQ.
@billiebergmann883517 күн бұрын
well, as you said, he is a cop. That doesn't mean necessarily he is smart 🙂Police officers often cover for each other - he might be counting on that? But i think, due to this horrible suicide note he wrote, he was sure his colleagues would believe in this suicide theory and won't investigate any further.
@funwithFred17 күн бұрын
@@billiebergmann8835 Oh he did count on it, oh yes he did.
@drewrampersaud334619 күн бұрын
Very sad for Jenny and her family, Ladies don’t go out with married men, the first thing ppl say is that they don’t know he was married, be sensible and investigate
@javiersalcido932820 күн бұрын
How is someone gonna. Put his blood there. Yeah rite. Your brother is guilty
@forrestnelson506920 күн бұрын
omg the sister is out of her mind if she thinks that her brother is innocent and has been framed. Maybe she thinks she is smarter than everyone just like her brother.... smh
@rodneychaney20 күн бұрын
Sorry sis he’s a coward
@danniedabler307220 күн бұрын
"i never seen her like that???!? Her hair wasnt done..." 😂😢
@muddydog660519 сағат бұрын
"Normally she's not dead"
@shanabenoit322616 күн бұрын
Having an affair never ended well.
@jilliansherrard21524 сағат бұрын
Exactly
@latoyahill761818 күн бұрын
U would think as an officer he would’ve known not to leave all of that evidence🤦🏾♀️
@tambou502220 күн бұрын
Ken Blues sister in deep in the nile!
@evapektas19 күн бұрын
Hahaha
@Truecrimewithchris6619 күн бұрын
“My explanation would be that someone put it there” come on sis really??? 😂😂
@laylawalker889719 күн бұрын
It's very scary and very eye opening that someone this dumb and delusional was a cop. They need to reinvestigate everything he's ever done on the job!
@msknucb176219 күн бұрын
His sister is in DEEP DEEP denial!!!🙄🙄 Dude is a murderer and a dumb ex cop!!! He should never ever be free again!!
@TightyWhiteyTrash20 күн бұрын
24:50 *Forensic scientists are so badass* u can tell how stoked she was to find the latex glove w/ the victim’s saliva & the suspects blood 😎
@heatherdavis944519 күн бұрын
If my brother ever did something this disgusting, he would not have my support. I’d be publicly denouncing him, and helping to put him away. That baby was her nephew, where is the loyalty for him? This sister needs a wake up call.
@BlackStump1727 күн бұрын
Same , even if it was my son , but my kids are not violent or selfish and hate cruelty .
@SavitaS-h4k16 сағат бұрын
this is how these men are breeded. their moms and sisters never hold them responsible for anything. prob coddled by his mommy his whole life.
@claricelyles83988 күн бұрын
Separated IS NOT divorced. Disgusting!
@muddydog660519 сағат бұрын
Yes that's definitely the worst fact in all of this 🙄
@nekiajoyner20 күн бұрын
She's not too smart is she😂😂😂
@Janadu19 күн бұрын
Move aside Debbie Downer.......We now have Debbie Delusional. There's one in every crowd and she's it.
@froggyslap20 күн бұрын
cops try not to abusive challenge
@aconfusedcookie461520 күн бұрын
(impossible)
@LolaRyck20 күн бұрын
There's always 1 person who is so delulu.
@racheldavis21020 күн бұрын
I don’t call you Chris Hanson I call you Chris handsome 😂
@AlexGamingConsole20 күн бұрын
Have a seat
@Lauren-wo6rf20 күн бұрын
Dayyuumm
@49ers_red_and_gold220 күн бұрын
Why would you call him that 😂
@johnvdmeer74520 күн бұрын
@@AlexGamingConsolewhy don’t you have a seat?
@CustomMuscleCarAccessories20 күн бұрын
"You know this is a sexually charged statement? What should happen to you??"
@makiroateao537020 күн бұрын
The sister is delusional just like her brother l feel for both mom and baby who didn't had a chance to be born out to this world to start/enjoy life 😔 😪 💔 😢 😕
@nekiajoyner20 күн бұрын
He did think he could get away with it
@michellegordon331913 күн бұрын
Wow never have I seen so much evidence against a suspect and this guy is supposed to be a Cop??
@brandonyen783719 күн бұрын
What a stupid and monster cop 😮 he supposed to protect citizens but he killed his girlfriend?????
@jill823512 күн бұрын
How in the hell did the cops even come to that conclusion? After hearing she was stabbed in the back? That should of been enough right there to say it wasn't a suicide
@wisamsleiman365220 күн бұрын
Debbie your brother is a monster
@BlackStump1727 күн бұрын
Her brother was overdramatic , not Jenny !
@ReyseanPryor20 күн бұрын
Two uploads in a day OK!!!!! ❤ And Debbie should be ashamed of herself
@lisajeter951119 күн бұрын
What about the DNA OF THE BABY?
@TheNinnyfee18 күн бұрын
Debbie, there was no hair etc. because the crime scene was cleared when the investigations began. CSI performed a miracle on those crime scene remains. You are projecting your brother's actions onto everyone else.
@leonardmason321619 күн бұрын
Has to be the dumbest cop ever
@xthanmantle10119 күн бұрын
Debby is a wicked person.
@swisstopia19 күн бұрын
Debbie! All of those donuts must be clouding your judgement. 🍩
@PneumaNoose19 күн бұрын
Of all the professions in the world, law enforcement has the highest number of domestic violence incidents. In many cases, people don’t become cops to help their community, they become cops to have ultimate power. It’s one of the many reasons why we need to do away with qualified immunity and the over inflation of their egos by society. It’s a job, and we all play our part in our communities. No one should be held above the law, but law enforcement needs to be held to the HIGHEST standard.
@yesitsme870219 күн бұрын
It’s painful realizing how dumb this cop is. Especially considering how much incriminating evidence he left at the crime scene.
@sallyharry609820 күн бұрын
The choke hold literature on the front seat...WOW!
@lgrundy613919 күн бұрын
He didn’t think he would be interrupted. Must have been leaving all that evidence
@PastorWilliamsValentine20 күн бұрын
Terrible 😢
@choiceyfoster712218 күн бұрын
Wow the evidence is Everything! Ken was def not smart! He def didnt want her to have his baby!! He was shocked that she told her family & friends she was pregnant by him
@tybrooks411216 күн бұрын
It’s amazing how all of these ‘intelligent’ women never know they are sleeping with a married man that live with his family
@cindycreateforlife16 күн бұрын
Because he said he was separated from his wife, he was lying so you blame her!
@carriefawcett999010 күн бұрын
It's amazing how many vile people are in the comments section here, especially you..
@DeeDiamond29817 күн бұрын
Am. Men lie.
@MoverandShaker20 күн бұрын
He was nervous laughing at 17:13
@49ers_red_and_gold220 күн бұрын
Brutal murder 😱
@jaylakhota487219 күн бұрын
Stupid this wasn’t double murder, a 8 month unborn child. US laws are ridiculous
@WillaFaulk-n6b12 күн бұрын
This was a very sad and gruesome way to lose your life. Women messing with married men usually ends in tragedy. She would be alive if she did not meet with him.
@cjb549014 күн бұрын
Debbie is an expert in forensic science, she clearly knows there was no way her brother could do this. I don’t know how people don’t believe her.
@rabymaidahsavage2583 күн бұрын
In my opinion, a member of law enforcement commiting murder is a betrayal to all of us in society.
@Maya-Alexdog20 күн бұрын
No one's going to think of that. Bizarre way to kill themselves
@TheLexiechey20 күн бұрын
Debbie is delusional
@Lauren-wo6rf20 күн бұрын
32:48 How wrong she is
@amyclark99718 күн бұрын
The sister is living in denial. Where is the DNA she says; girl there is his blood and he was scratched to bits!
@jillijane97937 күн бұрын
His sister is delusional and insensitive to the victim's family. She should have just kept her mouth shut
@kristy304120 күн бұрын
I think that family really lacks the mental capacity to function in the real world they seem to be delusional in their own Lala land.
@AndreaLKL7218 күн бұрын
That poor sister she's so delusional. But it would be really tough to wrap your mind around your brother being a murderer.
@beverlynielsen8608 күн бұрын
His sister is on complete denial......
@TariAkpodiete20 күн бұрын
i so don't like his moustache!
@screechingonions236511 күн бұрын
I don’t like anything about him. A monster in human disguise
@kanovalhalla763619 күн бұрын
The sister is either blind deaf or crazy. I could understand the whole box thing being planted, but the finger prints were perfect and his finger print after the arrest is plentiful evidence. The crazy thing is this would have all been prevented if he had just used a condom.
@knothead1016 күн бұрын
Debbie, he murdered your unborn nephew... an innocent You're defending a monster. So much loss.
@johnquayequao70265 күн бұрын
Yes his sister is as vile as her brother police officer who impregnated the young woman and murdered her
@DebbieVillalobos-nc2gp19 күн бұрын
What kind of police or detective is that just because it looks like suicide doesn't mean that it's suicide they should know that
@kotorisama308017 күн бұрын
Poor sister, she’s in denial. I can understand that. “None so blind as one who refuse to see.”
@suruha230620 күн бұрын
No woman, especially after experiencing her unborn child living and moving in her body, could take her own life and the life of that baby. If a woman ever got to that point, others would have known! Her family, doctors, someone would have seen signs! This poor lady and baby were ended by a complete monster!
@Esther-lm6pm19 күн бұрын
Wow the sister...... The only reason I could come up with would be that she never liked her in the first place. That's why she's saying this. I wonder if she's involved 🤔🤔
@jadeng29320 күн бұрын
To be honest, I think he will get an F if he had to take the police graduation test 😳. And with all these evidence, his sister still believe that he is innocent is beyond my mind.
@axtaxt83724 күн бұрын
Separated = MARRIED pending divorce = MARRIED lives separately = MARRIED Cant go out in public= MARRIED
@dwoodstwin20 күн бұрын
Everytime Chris says his name I can’t help but think of South Park.
@MisterKatz20 күн бұрын
Chokeholds in police trainings? This should no be in a police training!
@helenagreenwood230519 күн бұрын
American police training Here's how to perform a chokehold Oh and have a gun too What could possibly go wrong 😳
@deeliciousplum18 күн бұрын
I am uncertain as to the why we are shown the interview of Ken Bluew's sister, Debbie. Except, it may be for us to observe that Debbie would have made a terrible crime scene investigator. You can love and not wish harm upon a sibling without maliciously placing the blame on the victim.
@Saturnsonic9519 күн бұрын
Any dude with that kind of mustache is guilty! Side note he looks like one of the police officers from the movie super troopers 😂
@peaches4419 күн бұрын
LOL the sister says she knows a few people who would do it, but won't share that information. You'd think if she was so deadset on her brother's innocence she'd be throwing out every name! Ridiculous woman, and she had the audacity to say some women go through extreme lengths to be 'dramatic', smh
@velmabarclay688919 күн бұрын
I’m only halfway through, but oh my God look at his interrogation he is not even being appropriate sitting there whatever I need to finish the rest before I make my opinion
@misme508619 күн бұрын
Sister of murderer is pitiful. She isn’t just in denile, she is delusional.
Please tell me he’s in general population and not a secure lock down for murdering pathetic cops. A man who took an oath to protect. Wow , his own narcissistic behaviour was his complete failure- without even thinking it through helped the good cops. Justice for J & B 😢 I’m so sad for the family of Jennifer & Braxton. I ache for you all. My heart felt love to you all and to anyone else who lost a piece of them both. Lori ❤ 🇨🇦
@jennabouchard431220 күн бұрын
chris hansen is simply amazing at his job! a fan from canada
@lisajeter951119 күн бұрын
I would expect his sister to see the evidence through a different set of lenses. I do hope and pray she wakes up and sees the reality of what her brother was capable of doing for his own selfish reasons. I do wish this sister well!
@moonflowerspeaks8 күн бұрын
The sister is hilarious. Now it’s the police claiming they been set up. 🤣🤣🤣
@-Prestoned-14 күн бұрын
Pro tip: It's hard to know you're pregnant when you eat Whataburger on the Whataregular
@oneshot71138 күн бұрын
Family. !!!!!! His sister is a typical example of an individual who is out of touched with reality and in denial.