GRAYL Ultra Press Titanium: Is it worth it?

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[@E3W2A]

Grayl just announced the 24oz titanium version for preorder. It is the same cost as the 16oz and has the option for an additional $20 to add a lid for the cup portion. Release date is in April. Just an FYI. I have the 16oz version and love it.

[@u_s_e_rname]

Are they adding a lid to the 16oz version as well?

[@E3W2A]

@@u_s_e_rname not that I know of. But I wouldn't be surprised if they did eventually.

[@milesrost6674]

WOAH!!! Congratulations on reaching 50,000 subscribers. You've earned it and I'm excited to see you cross the 100K mark and become more recognized for your works. Cheers Brother. - Godspeed

[@HudsonValleyPreppingSurvival]

The Grayl is not a water filter my friend....its a water purifier....my GeoPress titanium is on order.... 65 gallons of purified water will get you pretty far away from danger, it also removes metals and some pharmaceuticals.... devil is in the details you left out 😉 ps the Geo Press is the 65 gallon per filter

[@RedDevil5081]

Just subscribed.

[@CatholicKit]

But after those 65 gallons you will need an alternate filtering method, which you could just use anyways. If you live in a city and for some reason can’t just keep a bunch of water in your car, maybe this makes sense? But anyone can put a case of water or a 2.5 gallon jug to fill up bottles from their car to move from. For a day hiker, it makes sense. Filter half a gallon a trip, you get 130 trips of water. But for a “bug out bag” you’re gonna want a longer term filtering solution, so you’d need this and a sawyer, so why get this over that if you’re not sucking down sewer water? America doesn’t have viruses in most water ways like Europe does. Giardia is the major concern and can be beaten by UV pens, aquatabs, boiling and normal filters like sawyers or MSRs.

[@HudsonValleyPreppingSurvival]

@CatholicKit bugout bags are not long term survival items ...in fact most Bugoutbags are made for 72 hours max ...so when i personal think bugout gear ...im trying to put as much distance between myself and the thing im bugging out from as fast as possible...

[@CatholicKit]

Sure, but still doesn’t sell this as opposed to any other system. If you are bugging out, you are likely doing so from a car or home. Thus access to bottled water or water jugs should be there. So why would you need to get a filter that takes out heavy metals and viruses? The US has very low viral load in wilderness water sources thus the prevalence of sawyers as opposed to chemical treatments or UV. A canteen cup, cnoc 3l and a sawyer squeeze are likely lighter, can filter more, and are far cheaper. A normal metal bottle with a few strips of aquatabs can also do the same job at far less cost. This product seems to be for a hobbyist bushcrafter, which is cool and theres a demand for those products, but I don’t think your money would be best spent on this if you are looking at preparedness. Theres simply so many other options at less cost or that allow significantly more filtration that this doesn’t seem a smart purchase unless you want it primarily for bushcrafting on weekends and its a bonus that it would also work in a bug out scenario. And unless you are bugging out to somewhere that is provisioned and has water purification/filtration supplies, you will need a long term water plan. This simply doesn’t do that, while things like the sawyer and msr can.

[@HudsonValleyPreppingSurvival]

@CatholicKit if i have to bugout in America things have gone terribly wrong and when everyone else is doing the same ....how long before people contaminate every water source they come across? I know what i trust and its limits and i agree there are MANY alternatives to a Grayl....its just my preferred method of purifying water and as far as low cost option the standard Grayl UltraPress is 89 dollars...

[@forgemaster12]

One thing I noted with many grayl purifier reviews is that they don’t seem to do a half twist of the cap to let air out, that’s why is harder for them to push the cartridge container into the sleeve.

[@fanman8102]

I have a regular Geo press for both my wife’s and my GHB. We also carry a Sawyer mini for back up. The best use of the Geo press, IMO, is to use it to fill other containers which you can do rather quickly compared to other systems. I agree it’s not good for a long term home system.

[@1991aj2]

I think adding this on top of what we would consider normal water prep items. Would be fine. But not as a stand alone.

[@tarinindell8217]

I will say that i think these do have a place in preparedness. The Grayl filter also remove heavy metals and some chemicals. They also generally work for longer than the company estimates. Most people say to just keep using them until they slow down too much. Thats when they actually need to be replaced. So let's say you live in a city and prepare for mostly smaller area natural disasters and just need to get 50ish miles to a family member's house where you have more supplies stashed. I think these would be perfectly reasonable as the primary water filter for such a scenario. You dont really want to rely on them for months, but just fleeing from a flood, earthquake, or wildfire. Also, someone will need to verify. But Self Reliance Outfitters/ The Pathfinder Store has nesting cups for the larger GeoPress. Once the titanium versions are out, maybe the nesting cup with fit over the titanium version as well. If so, that greatly increases the functionality.

[@theloneranger6758]

HudsonvalleyPrepping said what i was going to say. I use the geopress. This the larger Grayl. Love it. I fill my bladder and canteens. A little while back they came out with the metal cups, one titanium, one aluminum. I got the aluminum one for the price point. I have a cup for both my Geopresses. I have one on my hiking pack and one on my get home pack that stays in the jeep. Ive used it to heat water for meals. If i were an ultralight hiker, the new one might appeal to me. Otherwise, Im good with the work around. Keep up the great content! Stay safe!

[@liamlevine4188]

can we get a link?

[@johnyoung4129]

Pathfinder School. Dave Canterbury.

[@Pine0608]

They got a pre-order for the titanium Geo press going on now

[@PreparedAirman]

Yeah, I received their email last week. It should be interesting to see.

[@chuckcunningham5074]

Thanks for the info about the filter not being able to withstand more than one freeze cycle. I own the plastic version and was not aware of this. Love your channel!

[@sldsnk3]

I personally prefer their Geopress and a pathfinder nesting cup. I also transfer water to my Source water bladder with their UTA.

[@RedDevil5081]

Thanks for the video. This might be good for the jungle.

[@JimRodgers]

I've used the Grayl Geopress on backpack trips in the past 3 years. It processes enough water for my needs on 3-4 day trips. The titanium version is pretty pricy... not sure I see a need to upgrade.

[@Ammotax]

Very cool product

[@sid35gb]

Grayl is good for short trips but my backup is a Millbank bag and boil the water.

[@JoshAnderson-jr6wx]

The geopress titanium 24 ounce is available to pre order, shipping on 3-27

[@alf3553]

The only thing I don’t like about that setup is if I’m using the cup, the filter is unprotected. I would prefer a geopress & a good fitting cup. Ya I know pathfinder has a stainless cup.

[@Jordan-ql6tm]

I've been looking at one for a while it's just like you said it is expensive, but I do think it's worth it in the long run especially if you buy a case of those filters.

[@James-ke5sx]

I have the regular version with an extra filter, but I only keep it in my emergency kit. Actually I think this might be a better version for winter because you have to melt snow before you can filter it once the water cools down a bit. The water inside will probably stay warm until the time you finish drinking it if you keep it insulated. I'm in Canada and a few years ago I bought two waterproof rechargeable hand warmers that are also power banks by a company called Ocoopa. So I can always keep myself or water bottles from freezing. They last quite a while and even on the lowest setting they are very warm. It would be nice if they would simply sell just the titanium part so that people who have the plastic versions can convert at a decent price. By the way that symbol that you use with a round circle and an arrow is for a boy. I think the plastic version would resist freezing the longer than the titanium version. But the titanium version has the extra abilities. However here in Canada it's $300 including tax. Which means it's definitely not on my list I'll stick with the plastic version.

[@savagesapper4260]

But what are your thoughts on the much more affordable Bachgold filter system?

[@user-ku8sq2wo6d]

do another plate carrier vid and congrads

[@PreparedAirman]

I might in the future, but not much has changed since the Agilite carrier videos.

[@user-ku8sq2wo6d]

@@PreparedAirmanthank you

[@alanc4264]

Interesting video, thanks. I just have my plastic Grayl slotted inside a titanium cup. I bought the cup in a sale for less than $20. Extra weight but not much and a lot cheaper. Only use it for traveling to countries where the water may be suspect. I also have a sawyer mini which I carry when hiking. I checked the Sawyer website today and here is a direct quote from their website about the Sawyer Squeeze "Our award winning 0.1 micron absolute hollow fiber membrane filters set the new standard for removal rates and flow rates. The new Select Series Foam Filtration systems provide even further protection where water sources can include viruses, heavy metals, chemicals, and other contaminants." Note it claims it does get rid of viruses.

[@jpoconnor5744]

Be careful: Only the Select series (S2 and S3) have enhanced capabilities. The standard Squeeze and Mini with 0.1 micron membranes cannot purify out viruses. Only 0.02 micron membranes (or other technology) can remove viruses.

[@elisebrown5157]

For me, if SHTF, I would be looking at filtering my water multiple times in multiple ways. The selling point on the Grayl for me would be its claim to filter chemicals and heavy metals. Who knows what would get dumped into the water supply when things go bad. I would likely use a CNOC bag to scoop my water (or use the little loop on the Grayl Ti cup to lower it to a water source with cordage if it's far below me). I'd first filter out particulates with a physical filter (something like a coffee filter or nut milk bag), then I'd run it through a Sawyer or a similar filter. After that, I'd use the Grayl to get whatever the Sawyer missed. I figure this will extend the life of the Grayl filter as far as possible while making the drinking water as safe as absolutely possible. For wintertime, I'd probably just detatch the filter and carry that close to body rather than trying to keep the entire cup warm. Another option for wintertime is the steripen, which should kill viruses. But it will do nothing for chemicals or heavy metals or sediment. Same with boiling your water. So for hiking/camping within the USA, I'm likely to just use my highly portable Sawyer. But for SHTF, my Grayl, plus Sawyer, plus steripen are all in the BOB. Not taking any chances on clean drinking water. It would only take a little bit to put you out of commission. For a GHB, I'd probably just take the Grayl and a few coffee filters, as it's likely to work the best over multiple circumstances just to get me home.

[@iReturnV1deotapes]

Are you able to simply use as a daily water bottle without complicating the filter? Like at the gym or work? Also they just announced a titanium geopress for you.

[@Skellanuts]

Why can’t you just take the filter off the ultra press and put it in your jacket pocket like you do the sawyer or any other filter/purifier? I have a Grayl geopress soon to also be joined with the pathfinder ss nesting cup, and I have in the past taken the Grayl filter off and stuffed it into two clean wool socks and put it in the inside pocket of my winter coat. Then when I need to refill I can take it out, re connect it, and do my water treatment and refill my bottles. I do agree it’s more annoying in the winter to use a water filter, but as far as I know there is no full proof way to filter in the winter and not worry about freezing issues with any filter/purifier from any company. Honestly, boiling water or using tablets is the most full proof way to make water safe to drink in the winter time without using a filter in my opinion. I love my geopress 3 out of 4 seasons, but if I don’t want to worry about it. I boil or use tablets. If you’re trying to be all sneaky in the dead of winter and not give up your position due to smoke.. well… tablets.. and let’s be real… humans are lazy these days and hate inconvenience, they won’t want to travel half a mile or more in freezing temps to ruin your get home or bug “outing”

[@TraitorPotater]

What’s that sweater thing you’re wearing? Didn’t see it in the description. Looks cozy af.

[@swamppappyjonson9780]

It looks like a Lester River ?

[@PreparedAirman]

Lester River bushcraft wool anorak

[@liamlevine4188]

im not sure if this helps but by pressing it dry you can get the water in there out and if you do that a few times then I feel like it shouldn't matter if its frozen because there is so little water left in there to expand jus saying

[@elisebrown5157]

I checked out the FullTang Chest Rig (which I assume is the one you're wearing), but I don't your bottle holder sleeve offered as an accessory. Could you link to that as well (or to the chest rig, if that's not the one you're wearing - it seems a bit different.) Many thanks and much appreciation!

[@PreparedAirman]

Currently, it is not a direct accessory for The FullTang kit bag. I am currently working on a better solution for to carry the Grayl. The pouch I use is a ferro concepts mini dangler, but it is very tight . This video explains it a little better. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3WZhYl8mMp0fZo But soon, I will be showing a better option for the Grayl.

[@elisebrown5157]

@@PreparedAirman thanks for the video link. I can't wait to see what your better solution entails!

[@stuartniven2401]

Awesome! I love my plastic Grayl. FYI the Sawyer does remove viruses. Viruses are smaller than .01 micron but they need to bond to something to live which are all way over.01 or they die. In the US viruses are a very minimal threat.

[@PreparedAirman]

I'm willing to bet you're citing Dan becker's latest video.

[@stuartniven2401]

@@PreparedAirman I actually just watched that!! It’s true for all viruses though. Do I trust it 100%? Nope. My guess is that in the US it’s not too much of an issue though, if my life depended on water, I’d drink it anyway 😂! I’ve been using the grayl for a year now, Sawyers for 5 ish. Love your videos man! Keep it up!

[@wolfman2702]

40 gallons with a $25 dollar filter - more expensive but also more effective than the other systems on the market and less expensive than bottle water if you need to use it at home.

[@jjcruz750]

So that purifies about 16.9 oz. That’s a typical water bottle size. It takes 8 water bottles to equal a gallon of water and if it only last 40 gallons that means you get 320 uses out of one filter. Which isn’t bad as long as this ISNT your main Water purification system. This is definitely great if you’re out and in a pinch.

[@PreparedAirman]

Yes, absolutely.

[@thekraken48]

Thanks for the video. I am interested in your jacket. Is that a wool pullover? Can you let me know the brand, please?

[@PreparedAirman]

Lester River bushcraft wool anorak

[@thekraken48]

Thank You@@PreparedAirman

[@Jordan-ql6tm]

Appreciate the content and do enjoy this type of video quite a bit man second comment for the algorithm

[@Thousand_yard_King]

The MFR could have went with 304 stainless and been way less expensive, and for the size, you are not saving much weight wise with the titanium over stainless.

[@Stoney_AKA_James]

Grayl purifiers are one of the few products that filter viruses, granted viruses are not as common in the U.S. as it is in other countries. But since viruses are smaller than bacteria it can proect against chemicals, pesticides and of course parasites, which is commonly found in the U.S. I have 2 of the plastic 24 oz. Grayl Geopress purifiers, along with SRO stainless steel nesting cups and lids for boiling water and cooking. I considered buying their new 24 oz. titanium Geopress filter (pre-order), but for the cost difference, I'm not interested in their 16.9 oz. bottle. And if I do buy their new titanium 24 oz. bottle, I will also buy their titanium nesting cup and lid to boil water as an option.

[@trava4156]

Doesn’t it have a good warranty tho?

[@tlock4616]

Just a question since I've not heard this before.. but if you use a Sawyer filter you'd still need to boil or treat the water?

[@PreparedAirman]

Yes, you would still need to kill the virus out. But it depends on the water.

[@VictorGarciaR]

If you have the time, check the water purificatiom video series by GearSkeptic. Solid answers to all questions like that

[@hyperboreanforeskin]

the chance of getting a virus from water in the American back country is slim to none. you have a better chance of getting into a car accident on the way to the trailhead

[@no.9516]

They made a metal tube that relies on its inside and outside fitting perfectly. 1 dent told me this wasnt worth it.

[@PreparedAirman]

Did yours fail?

[@no.9516]

@@PreparedAirman yes, if you rr great a meal enough it won't maintain it's shape as you know and it's shape is the only thing that makes it itself in this product.

[@davidburgess6128]

200 dollars no way I want the regular 24 Oz one but 100 dollars is crazy

[@trava4156]

I used it in Peru. I got sick anyway, but it was from probably everything else I was exposed too. But I did use it. Hopefully it worked 😂

[@fire93950]

How do you tell when you’ve used over 40 gallons or it doesn’t filter out viruses anymore?

[@PreparedAirman]

I count my uses with a sharpi on the side of the bottle.

[@bobinmontana777]

@@PreparedAirmanMy understanding is you’ll know as the filter becomes more difficult to press it will let you know as it becomes full of contaminants.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

£200. in uk. That’s a lot!

[@acebatman7024]

Why wouldn't you boil the water to remove any viruses

[@marcmmclellan]

Cool product!

[@aaronwilcox6417]

Heres the issue. You dip it in a water source and hands get that water on them. Then you touch the top of the unit and push it down. Now youve exposed the top of the unit to viruses of whatever by touching it with hands. Looks to me like an easy way to cross contaminate.

[@PreparedAirman]

The spout and threads are covered with a cap. Just leaves the cap on when using it. Just be mindful and recognize the potential dangers.

[@branni6538]

Stuff it in a woolen sock and put it inside your coat/sleeping bag. It won't freeze!!!!

[@leopoldarkham7017]

Does youtube penalise you for making generally shorter videos? The YT gear space has moved on to making what feels like unnecessarily long videos over the last few years, my best guess is that it's for the algorithm? In any case I can watch you on 1x without dedicating my afternoon to it, and I appreciate that on top of all the good info.

[@PreparedAirman]

I wouldn't say the penalize you but it's definitely harder to be promoted. YT prefers "Shorts" or full long form video 8-10 minutes. But a lot more goes into it than just length, topic, thumbnail, key words, past video, stuff like that.

[@stangsaleens7]

You can’t back fill a grayl to unclog it.

[@thomasbrandon5111]

I like the concept but to pricy imo

[@swamppappyjonson9780]

It's not worth $100 more just for the titanium, titanium has become a lot more cheaper now than it used to be. They should at least include an extra filter for that price. By once cry once😢😅😂

[@user-qd3bh9zb5g]

$200? Pass...

[@michaelw2288]

Some of these systems work with membrane tubes, Grayl say they use ceramic fibres. No one really explains how they work, they answer that question with :How you use it".

[@Patriot_-xe9qw]

Suppressed 11.5”???