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[@kerriann04]

Poor girl honestly thought leaving school would mean getting a vacation. She'll be working harder than ever now.

[@KKonYouTube]

To be fair.... as a kid, I felt the same!! Now, I'm grateful I finished uni, have a successful career and have the luxury to look back and say I'm glad my parents pushed/ forced/ wouldn't stand for me dropping out of school. BUT as kids, "no school" was mentally aligned with "vacation"

[@BrownRiceBunny1]

It’s very telling that all of the girls - and many girls in other shows like this - actually like and *want* to go to school but the culture takes that away from them.

[@BellaIsMyBaby]

Exactly . It's extremely misogynistic depending on the males financially & the females don't have any place outside of catering to everyone else. How anyone can't see how problematic this is, is beyond me. Seen little kids dressed like prostitutes.

[@OrthodoxChristian809]

It's domestic slavery and should be illegal. They should be given every chance to access education and training. They end up trapped in abusive marriages with a clutch of children and no earning potential beyond being a cleaner and not even that if they can't read.

[@BellaIsMyBaby]

@@OrthodoxChristian809 Exactly! & "tradition" is their excuse for not killing this abusive cycle. Some do "settle" into homes. I just could never live like this. I don't know that it's a choice. Imagine you all basically have the same future set out for you as a female, but the males can do whatever the heck they want! It's definitely a man's world in the gypsy world.

[@michellejohnson6014]

Totally agree! So much of what they show and try to claim is just their culture, is just flat out abuse!! They can call it what they want, its still wrong!! I have seen some that have broken the streak, but nowhere near as many as you would hope for. ​@@BellaIsMyBaby

[@landonducharme7657]

@@BellaIsMyBaby not just the Gypsy world,,,,look around you!

[@dawnmazarati3301]

It was GREAT advice that Jimmy got Paddy to do do more years of school. He definitely needed more baseline education, and his big brother was there to advise him correctly.

[@OnlyJalenPhd]

If he would have stayed in school, he would’ve been at least a college graduate. You can tell he’s intelligent.

[@EmmaChapman-h5s]

I consider my 7 year old to be struggling in school, but he's more knowledgeable and knows more mathematics and English then that 9 year old. The 9 year old is on par with my 5 year old in education 😭

[@lazyuploadsparty9231]

It is so upsetting and just sad to see how he knows his little brother look up to him and how mature he is for his age. He understands things adult men do and you can also notice he probably didn't wanna leave school.

[@lazyuploadsparty9231]

@@EmmaChapman-h5s Yeah it's sad to see how much the parents just don't care of their children education,also I think they start at like 6-7 instead of the set age.

[@madelyn8218]

He’s smarter than some guys that are like in their 30s that I know

[@okudotwana3134]

What I've learned from this documentary is that there is a fine line between "family tradition" and "generational curse"💔. Please let's begin to discern between the two.

[@littlelizzi3135]

This 💯

[@BellaIsMyBaby]

Well said!!! So sad they can't see it bc they've been so brainwashed. It's the only thing they know! ​It's extremely misogynistic depending on the males financially & the females don't have any place outside of catering to everyone else. How anyone can't see how problematic this is, is beyond me. Seen little kids dressed like prostitutes. These little girls should be able to see marrying outside of their "culture" would be the best thing for it.

[@teresastathis4119]

I agree with you. Alot of the men I'm sure are drinkers and abusers. How sad. They make it sound like it's a wonderful life. Don't think so. Sad

[@VAnn4491]

“It’s our family tradition to leave school at 10” says it all right there…SMH 😮

[@Gone_bye123]

What

[@LokiSherry]

Sounds a lot like the FLDS kids

[@Gone_bye123]

@@LokiSherry what

[@tanya41277]

What does it say?

[@Gone_bye123]

@@tanya41277 what do y mean what does it say she’s making a fool out of travelers

[@donnamays24]

Paddy’s older brother Jimmy was a very wise 13 year old young man!…he impressed me the most❤

[@Yootuber19]

Thirteen year old child / teenager. Not a man.

[@madelyn8218]

@@Yootuber19it’s an expression. I call the five year old I babysit young man.

[@madelyn8218]

Much smarter than many adults I know. He is realistic.

[@abigailgarcia3090]

In another world Jimmy would have been a star pupil with so many natural talents especially wisdom at such a young age.

[@kirstybrownlie7243]

started school at 6..finishing at 10.... that poor child

[@HeyItsMad]

My dad taught in a school with a significant traveller population. They would often arrange for children to be kept behind a year so they would get to stay in education longer as leaving primary school would be the end for most children in the community.

[@JustJecs]

that yo mama fork and milk was top tier 😂😂😂😂

[@Pearlsandchampagne]

Right 😂 flew over the other 2 kids head

[@katryanaorange2092]

Those two brothers have a beautiful connection. Big brother of the year💙

[@PhyllisDrouin]

I grew up in the United States. Every year the Gypsy's would come to their "camp" next property over from my Aunt. Most of them were extremely smart and very well traveled. We loved it when they came. I learned about their culture. As long as you respected them they were good to you. My aunt would find home baked goodies on her porch often.

[@carrie5490]

Some traveller communities have recognised the importance of education to a degree. My dad was born into the showman’s community and he finished school at 12 but since then a lot of his family have realised that allowing the girls that want to remain in school is a good thing, not so much the boys though. There are now a good number of girls with bookkeeping, accountancy and law education, largely because they’ve realised they can benefit the community with their financial and legal skills

[@t-and-p]

This. I'm a female Irish Traveller and a doctor. I was given the choice of whether or not I wanted to stay at school at 13 (when everyone else chooses their GCSEs, and so kids of every background are starting to make decisions about their future) but it had to an informed choice. I was the first of us to go to university but many have followed behind me. We have accountants, nurses, and midwives, to name a few. A lot of the lads have chosen to go to college and become qualified plumbers, electricians, carpenters, plasterers - so staying within the trades, but with the qualifications to be able to run solid businesses that are in demand. It also stops a lot of the people who would usually refuse to employ Travellers dead in their tracks when they see that they are fully qualified and insured. Stops a lot of prejudice.

[@ashotofmercury]

​@@t-and-p this is brilliant and great to hear! Congrats on becoming a doctor, amazing achievement. 🙏🏻✊🏻☺️

[@t-and-p]

@@ashotofmercury Thank you for your lovely comment! Wishing you a very happy new year 🎉😊

[@ashotofmercury]

@@t-and-p same back at you my friend. 🥳☺️

[@omw123wilkins5]

That elder young lad is lovely his parents should be so proud of him

[@GloriousImperfection]

Jimmy is extremely mature and switched on. Unfortunately, he had to learn at a young age that wishing to grow up so fast is not so great!

[@findingbeautyinthepain8965]

Jimmy ia a great kid and fast learner. I think Patty has learning disabilities. It’s not even just numbers and letters he struggles with. He struggled to learn machinery too. It broke my heart when he didn’t know 9 + 2 = 11. Jimmy has a lot of patience with Patty. I know he called him an idiot, but that’s bound to happen when a brother is expected to fill the role of a father for his sibling.

[@Kalani_Saiko]

@@findingbeautyinthepain8965 I don't think he has learning disabilities. His education is just so disrupted. He may even just be a hands on learner

[@amandab8433]

My husband has been in the Trades for over 35 years. He's a Stationary Engineer specializing in knowing how to repair just about anything High Rise buildings. He has to know how to read, and understand, technical manuals. How to safely mix dangerous chemicals safely. How to read complicated schematics, as well as remaining up to date on local laws and how to stay within said laws. He knows how to work through all sorts of computer programs, and much more. Gone are the days where Trades People could get by with little to No formal education. Now most jobs require some sort of education beyond high school. The world has changed and they are sadly setting up their children to be left behind.

[@OhhMyLena]

Preserving their ancestry is more significant than ensuring a stress-free, enjoyable, educated childhood for their own descendants. extremely sad!

[@missselizabeth5696]

I mean even just writing proper invoices, doing taxes and responding to emails requires basic reading, writing and mathematics.

[@awesome13awfulness]

@@amandab8433 school also teaches "HOW" to learn. Do I need to know how to write interpret a poem in French in my job now? No. I don't need to know a lot of stuff I learned in school. But I acquired skills in school that I need now in my job and day to day life.

[@mel3256]

@@missselizabeth5696 Exactly, many Roma get taken advantage of in the few jobs they do - if you cannot read and write you are screwed. It also happens in Canada to Hutterites. They now have their kids go to at least grade 8.

[@pandaamachine]

I don’t get it - most of them live in a trailer and the girls lives seem to be completely consumed by cleaning everyday? What the hell is there to clean 7 hours a day 7 days a week? Imagine a life defined by cleaning.

[@barbakanka]

they are pretending like they are cleaning buckingham palace. it is so boring

[@madelyn8218]

Well if you have that many kids it’s going to get messy fast. Especially if you want it too look so nice. Plus if they have farms they probably do something with that.

[@chartolman5606]

😂 the trailers are super small… nothing to clean 24/7

[@rachelmoir1776]

I think they clean for 2-3 hours a day. They re-clean what is already clean so they wash the dishes again once they have already washed them and they hoover the floor 2 times a day, that kind of thing

[@Yuhina_Earthsutra]

With so many kids around and a husband that doesn't help out around the house even one bit, it is quite possible. And with that sort of culture where man is put on a pedestal, I am sure the woman has to constantly clean after him. Plus small spaces get messy very fast.

[@debras3806]

That Lindiana is a holy terror in the making, the spoiling is SICK

[@redditaccount9307]

And her singing is fucking terrifying

[@melissakelly9629]

The little irish boy with the red hair is adorable, very charming young man

[@amandapittar9398]

I’ve watched SO many of these episodes. The travellers have weird ideas about non Travellers. They are just as prejudiced as non. It sounds like they have it drummed into them by their parents that they are far luckier than non gypsies. My Aunt married a Romany at 18, he was 23. It was the 1960s and my very middle class grandparents said no. So she promptly got pregnant. My GPs held out… she made it down the aisle with 5 weeks to spare. She had four live babies out of nine. None went to school after 12-13. They were fantastic horse riders and show jumpers. We loved visiting them, but it was rare as they were deemed wild - but we always had so much fun. They had lots of animals and we went on adventures in the surrounding countryside, 7 cousins just paddling in streams, catching fish, tadpoles, frogs, riding ponies ( and falling off) playing with dogs, cats, kittens, ferrets and a foul mouthed parrot. They were just our cousins, Aunt & Uncle.

[@KM-690]

Jimmy is a great brother. Hes going to grow up and be a good man.

[@christienelson1437]

I think that schooling traveler children needs to be more practical for them. Teach them why reading a cleaning bottle will help them clean better. Have classes on sewing or 4H geared programs to meet their needs. They will value school more if it values what is impotent to them. Working hard to make money is very important to the young men and caring for the home and family as important to the girls.

[@donnamays24]

Excellent point! Make education applicable…the same could be true for all children’s education…most are not built for doctors, scientists and scholars!..in the US trade education is lacking…and we need more of that…we are seeing a serious shortage of skilled tradesman like builders, mechanics, farmers etc.

[@YOLO-yx2nz]

They already have that in most high schools ( home etc and woodshop) yet they still don’t stick around, it’s such a shame

[@hhhhhhhhhh6687]

This is such a good idea!

[@annabanana7298]

@@YOLO-yx2nz there are very few schools offering home Ec and shop these days. These classes and the arts were all drastically cut 20 years ago so that the schools could afford computer classes. It’s time for the pendulum to swing back again

[@elasticheart6694]

​@YOLO-yx2nz I can vouchers for tht too were I am in England my kids have done something once or twice but its seen more like craft time then an actual skill it's definitely more math English history geography n p.e twice a week x

[@kezzokav5905]

The older kid who said she thinks gorger teenage girls in school is 'disgusting'... what a horrific thing to teach your child.

[@Timm-v4l]

Yes

[@sarahwarlady]

Of course a 10 year old does not like the feeling of meat and washing dishes. And that poor girl cannot do subtraction. She thinks basic education is not needed at home, but how will she read a recipe? Handle money if she ever loses her husband?

[@snakatac]

Even reading safety instructions on cleanser labels, using new appliances!

[@zoeinez5061]

thought my computer was tripping for a moment at the long clipet of silence

[@geena_gee]

Same bro

[@donnamays24]

Same!..and I really want to hear what that Mom had to say!

[@pamvoss1787]

I turned on subtitles for that part lol

[@marthanone4783]

@@pamvoss1787smart!

[@suzanneedmonds1566]

@@pamvoss1787 I tried that but the subtitles weren't visible....bummer

[@oldsoulhomestead89]

I will say everything I’ve watched about travelers and those I’ve met (since they had caravans seasonally where I grew up and came to my school) the mums really do keep impeccable homes and let the kids play without being stuck affront a tv all day. It is a shame the girls leave education early though because you can learn domestic skills and finish high school.

[@bethenecampbell6463]

I wish the children stayed in school longer. With current technology some schooling could travel with them. They need to be able to read and do math well enough to keep track of their money and read a simple contract. Course work needs to be obviously relevant to their lives, but practical skills are good for all kids to learn.

[@kaleahcollins4567]

It's more to keep them virgins and not be influenced by outside boys

[@dixie6294]

They would leave with more education and exsposure....

[@ZiggaMau]

Thank you! I do wish the kids stayed in school longer but, I can see how in the past, that would've been more normal. But, they seem like lovely people. As with any group I'm sure there are bad apples. But, overall they just seem lovely.

[@MsJeanneMarie]

That’s so true! I feel like part of it might also be because the parents need the help. I wonder if these children feel parentified. Being responsible for child care and income could feel quite burdensome, but maybe since it’s normalized in this community, it doesn’t feel as burdensome to them.

[@Toni-d2g]

I know it’s their tradition but after raising a lawyer, teacher and environmental scientist daughters. I feel sad for these girls.

[@jens2old2care]

Exactly. By cutting off education early, they really pigeon hole them into domestic life.

[@dennisahlarson1584]

Sounds like the hood I grew up in, only marriage was uncommon and a highchool diploma was only encouraged if you had a career plan. College was considered an overacheivement. This was in the USA, New England. The hood I grew up in had this as a culture: 1. Childhood was short (ended at 13, when parents stopped parenting). 2. Get a partner and get pregnant asap (between 13-18) 3. Apply for benefits and housing once pregnant. Or stay at your parents' place until you qualify to apply (age minimum Is 16). 4. Men hustled/dealt drugs or found a way to get money from "back injuries". Getting and keeping an honest job was not favored. Hustling/dealing made more money. 5. Women stayed home and had/raised kids. Maybe worked, often just collected at home. 6. Everyone had low expectations for life and found happiness in a shared love of drama and parties. Glad I got out as a teen and never went back.

[@j.lingle4713]

Additionally, upper- and middle-class liberals in both countries support both “lifestyles” and deem anyone who speaks out against it as “racist” (even if they are of the same race/ethnicity), yet the people who are harmed the most by the “lifestyle” are the women and children from that lower-class group who have no power or voice. They are incredibly susceptible to DV and s*xual violence. #MakeItMakeSense

[@t.leanne88]

What part of new England USA?

[@tiffanykim2773]

Kudos to you for breaking that chain.

[@pandaamachine]

Sounds depressing Jesus

[@denaalfers7028]

Sad for those girls

[@carolinehops]

It’s their tradition .

[@urleastfavpolish]

@@carolinehops a sexist tradition

[@anastasiaclarke1560]

​@@carolinehopsdoesn't make it right

[@christienelson1437]

They are safe, clean and are cared for in a respectful manner. Today children are given everything can’t clean, cook or care for themselves. I do wish they had a stronger education to protect them. But compared to children today who are being exposed and preyed upon by media and strangers they are safer. 💕🙏💕🙏

[@geekyotaku8251]

@@carolinehopssome traditions should be canceled for good since this is 10 billion percent wrong and stupid plus I gotta make a phone call to the fbi to stop this, because it’s called grooming

[@thatsdebatable1361]

Just because it’s your culture doesn’t mean we as a society should be allowing this abuse and neglect of all these children.

[@DeliaDeLyons]

Exactly! It these people belonged to any other “culture”, society would not stand for little kids dropping out of school before they have a clue what is good for them. Disgusting! Why is England allowing this??

[@nadinehart8624]

So children who lived in a very similar way back in the day were all abused were they? They’re fed, they’re cared for. That’s not abuse. They’re just instilled with different values. Is the quad biking reckless? Yes. Is it abusive? No!

[@sunnyandthechlo]

@@nadinehart8624 Not allowing your child to learn things that may help them survive in the current society is abuse yes.

[@carlygardner9561]

@@nadinehart8624 Fed and clothed is no longer the standard and for good reason. Yes this may have been the life their family before them had but it was in a world where that kind of lifestyle made sense. The values are solid but theyre forcing these children to grow up way before their time. You cannot honestly agree that pulling a 10 year old child from school is correct because its not. You should not treat your 10 year olds as second moms and secondary incomes for the home that absolutely is abuse.

[@kaleahcollins4567]

They learn practical skills boys learn a trade most of the time Roofing construction etc. ​@sunnyandthechlo

[@0ph3liar]

One thing I can't stand is the carting. To anyone that is non horsey, trotting on concrete for a horse is so damaging for their joints. Research has shown that roadwork results in forces on the hoof around 20 times higher than working on good grass or artificial surfaces. I can understand why it might be hard for them to hire somewhere to do these events but there's just no need for this blatant neglect. The horses shown in the show are fairly well looked after but this is just showing the very best side of travelers horses. Just think of the amount of times you've seen a horse tethered to the side of a busy road. They can also easily slip since they're trotting so fast on concrete, metal on a smooth stone surface means there just isn't much friction.

[@Gabriella01111]

The horse part was a really hard watch for me. Blatant abuse making them run on concrete who tf thinks that's okay!? I'm not even around horses and I know that's not okay... common sense.

[@SunnaHealingUK]

@@Gabriella01111 abuse? explain how thats abuse??

[@cindyd.01]

😢

[@dianafrancisco9689]

That is SO BAD on those horses LEGS ! Driving them so hard on pavement! And they say they love their horses ? 🤬🤬🤬

[@melisaprietoaboitiz7184]

There's more to being a girl than cooking and cleaning

[@plan4life]

Glad you cleared that up, I was starting to think I was a guy 😂

[@rebeccakeenaghan2062]

Aww that little girl singing was just adorable ❤

[@janu10048]

The desire to keep your community ignorant by pulling the kids out of school is very hard to understand.

[@nursekate6772]

Considering most kids in the US learn more about gender studies and $exuality than they do reading, math and science, maybe it's not so bad.

[@4WingedAngels]

It’s all about control. If you keep them uneducated, they cannot learn they are being taken advantage of by those around them.

[@1JewelOfTheNile]

@@nursekate6772 Only a CONservative would make up something like that! 🤥

[@1JewelOfTheNile]

@@nursekate6772 Just lying! We have access to the curriculum in the US under the Department of Education website to debunk you!

[@SissyFlower5]

@@nursekate6772have you been to a real school lately or did you just read that online

[@JustLavell]

Omg jimmy looking after his younger brother just really touched my heart what a great brother

[@ritajaklitsch7559]

I can understand the boy's education: Working with animals, learning a proud and effective special craft from their fathers and grandfathers. I can see they thrive on achieving these skills and earn their honors for their communities in a highly respected traditional way. - But on the other hand it is absolutely heartbreaking to watch these little girls struggling with basic academic education, not because they would be slower or dumber as their classmates, but just because they missed out so much of schooling and lessons and therefore feel inferior to their classmates. -So they pull back from any basic education and "learn" about housekeeping, a skill they probably pick up in a few weeks. Nothing creative about it, nothing really interesting, only dull, repetitive actions serving their families and their husbands and sons. Every day. Over and over again. I feel so very bad for this fundamental loss of girl- and woman-power, their natural abilities, their intelligence, creativity and abilities in every form ... It is just devastating to watch this power fade away with cleaning houses (or vehicles), bearing and raising kids, and obeying men. What a waste of human power!

[@scdl-m2z]

seriously. they’re teaching the little boys that women shouldn’t be working, that looking after children is a “woman’s” job, and that men shouldn’t be doing those jobs. it’s heartbreaking

[@beckyharding6571]

As a stay-at-home mum (with a good degree), sadly I agree with you. The boys are thriving with the physical work and I think many in our school system would be the same. But where are the skills the girls are being given? Running a household isn't for the fainthearted but give them some other skills! Unless this programme has been deliberately designed to hide the skills they're gaining, like accounting or food preservation?

[@amandab8433]

​@@scdl-m2z Isn't this exactly what the new "Trad Wife" thing promoting? Look at all the Influencers who are getting popular and racking up followers because they stay close to home and hearth.

[@spudbono5747]

​@amandab8433 - but "trad wife" being a chosen life path is quite different than a cultural expectation that you enter that life in your teens with no other options because you have no other skills or education.

[@rebeccashields9626]

@@amandab8433choosing to learn cooking and raise children is different than it being forced on you though. Humans have a very wide variation in their interests and natural abilities and gifts. So for many women, being home with their children may be a wonderful life. But for a percentage of women that would not be their ideal life. The idea that one exact life would be perfect for everyone is absurd. The ability to choose is what it’s important here. Also even trad wives in American still have a high school education and usually a job for at least part of their life. Like personally I am a mostly stay at home mom (just work average 6 hours a week as a nurse). I LOVE being home with the kiddos. But I still have a high school diploma and a BSN. So there’s a backup plan if something catastrophic happens. Totally different than a particular path being completely chosen for you at the age of ten.

[@Windigo-OAK]

Why is the narrator going on and on about Shannon's ' choice ' to leave school at 10? She's too young to think that through and is just parroting her mom & relatives. She will have so much regret later! 😢

[@nadinehart8624]

How do you know she’ll regret it?

[@Kalani_Saiko]

I disagree that it's parroting. HOWEVER, she has the mentality that being out of school would be better for all the same reasons a normal kid would. "I won't have homework", "School is boring", "Home is so much more fun" are all things you hear ALL THE TIME from kids her age. She's thinking of it as summer holidays times the rest of her life. To a kid, that sounds pretty awesome. Unfortunately, I don't think she'd be able to keep that mentality for long after it happens. We saw a little of the same situation from young Paddy. He didn't like sitting in a boring classroom all day. He LOVES being outside, something a classroom setting doesn't really allow for. Now, he has the opportunity to leave school for good and skip all that boooring work and be outside, driving cars and creating irl building blocks. Fortunately, Paddy had an older brother to point out his flawed thinking. Jimmy was SPOT ON. Unfortunately, I believe Jimmy's own mindset from when he left is the contributing factor there. Jimmy doesn't want his little brother to make the same mistake he did. Shannon doesn't have an older brother or sister who she looks up to and can tell her it's not all sunshine and daisies leaving so soon. She knows it's tradition and sees a way out of school and thought "HECK YEAH! NO MORE HOMEWORK! PERMANANT VACATION!". They're both just so young and naive.

[@nickislade5533]

Because thats their life style, look at American Indian culture, the women were the homemaker/ gather. The men were the hunters

[@janu10048]

If everyone in society let the 10-year-olds decide if they will return to school, NOBODY would be in school! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@harmonyln7]

I agree. It's the parents' choice to enroll their child or children into the school or home-school them in the first place, so it's also their decision as the *parents* to pull them out of the said school.

[@JaneEvans-yw6nu]

I think it’s a great idea to have a school specifically for traveller children. I used to teach a traveller boy who was constantly bullied by the other children. At least they’re getting some education which is better than none at all. I do feel sorry for the girls though whose only aspirations in life are to become wives and mothers.

[@Millieshin-yj5mb]

"Your mother is so fat, people run around her for exercise" 🤭. Forgive me! But I had to laugh at that one! 😂

[@chealaja3727]

It was the "Your mama so poor , she eat cereal with a fork to save milk" for me 🤣🤣

[@k.cxsmic]

That one takes a bit of thinking to undedstand so im not surprised he didnt get it😂 ​@@chealaja3727

[@thatsamegaoofer6027]

I wonder why she wants to leave school… Everybody in her household is telling her that it’s a woman’s job to cook and clean the house and she complains about bullies at school. There are other factors, causing her to neglect her education that need to be addressed because this will affect her for the rest of her life.

[@carlygardner9561]

At a certain point we have to stop calling this "culture" and start calling it neglect. leaving school at 10? no absolutely not.. maybe 16 maybe...

[@SusiRP]

I like the kid who says, stop for a second there's a spider 🕷 thank you, miss! I don't do spiders

[@daniellemallozzi8548]

imagine teaching your daughter to depend on a man and not to self sufficient and setting them up in life with no education and no way of taking care of themselves and their children if the man up and leaves???!! I could never imagine doing that to my daughter. wow. just sad. Ive seen these poor girls when their men leave them or they leave bc of abuse and they have NOTHING and no education and cannot support themselves or their children.. your basically hoping to marry somone who wont just leave you or abuse you... so sad!

[@buzzzzzz69]

I can see technology (especially wifi) making a huge difference in these children's lives from now on. In Australia we've had "School of the Air" for many decades- for children in isolated or transient situations. I can see distance education creeping into Traveller lives. Hopefully it will make the girls realise they can do so much better.

[@mrsdixon3524]

Cant believe they can pull a 10yr old out legally?! That shit wouldn't fly here in Australia

[@Sammie.jo.]

It don't fly for us either. Only the traveler community

[@jules9111]

The government has learned which groups of people don't allow themselves to be walked over and have their entire lives dictated by the government. I don't agree with pulling children out, but the government should have no say

[@donnamays24]

Nor the US either…regardless of their beliefs!..thank goodness we have child protection laws in that regard!

[@YOLO-yx2nz]

The UK seriously needs to take a look at what they are allowing

[@Sammie.jo.]

@YOLO-yx2nz if they dont it gets called discrimination ro racism, because its their culture. I let my son stay off for his birthday and I get letters saying they'll fine me lol

[@cindyd.01]

“Shannon’s decision to leave school (at 10!) has the full support of her family. ‘We like the girls to stay home, learn how to cook, clean.. just learn how to be girls.’” Wow. To expect so little of your girls, that their only purpose is to cook, clean and look after children. That they don’t have any choice to be something else. 😟

[@katekburns3495]

The culture is slowly changing. The women get stuck in a cycle of being raised to think the only important thing in life is to find a husband get married, have a extravagant wedding and kids. Husbands are always abusive,never let them go anywhere. the woman get hit and leave and then their daughters start all over again at 14 for the wedding, and they abuse them

[@Yootuber19]

You can’t generalise and say that every single gypsy male is abusive.

[@jinaratsoma9306]

I have so many questions, for one, if the girls leave school without learning how to read properly, how do they get around in the real world, like reading road signs, important family documents like tiles, wills and bank statement, what happened if the husband dies young??

[@nadinehart8624]

Their reading skills are likely sufficient. My father was an idiot and also severely dyslexic but drove for a living. So he could understand road signs no problem. Regarding wills then the family likely has their own setup and many travellers I knew didn’t have bank accounts anyway.

[@YOLO-yx2nz]

Is a mess really I don’t know how they’ve last so long in the real world and managed to keep a hold of these so called “traditions”

[@tinatina1104]

Yes there’s a big world out there, some may regret growing up so young

[@jinaratsoma9306]

@@nadinehart8624 Thank you for the insight.

[@sunnyandthechlo]

@@jinaratsoma9306 They don’t have anything to do with wills or bank statements, the husband has control of everything. I have no idea what they do if he dies young though.

[@Shawna87]

Jimmy is an amazing big brother. Hes so smart and patient, his parents should be proud ❤

[@bperez9066]

I respect other peoples traditions but having your kids leave school SOOO young is wrong on many levels.

[@punkstermom1984]

Depends on what they are doing out of school tbh though. 🤷‍♀️ Sometimes keeping them in typical school is worse.

[@deethompson2854]

Shame on the parents. Those kids don’t understand the choices they are making.

[@theL0VERS]

Lmao i am from Kentucky and the thats the most interesting version of blue moon of kentucky i have ever heard. On another note I am sad for these girls lack of options because of lack of Education. There's nothing wrong with learning trades but cant the kids go to school for a few hrs a day and then go to work? Girls who are going to raise children at home still need to know Reading Writing and arithmetic as well. What happens if something happens to her marriage or her husband and he can no longer be the breadwinner then she either has to rely on other people or the government to take care of her and her children

[@EmmaChapman-h5s]

This is absolutely mind blowing. By 11 I was more educated on every front then that girl pulling out of school. I did well in school. I loved cooking shows, so I pushed myself to learn to cook to the point that by 9 I was competent enough to used the oven on my own unsupervised. My mom loves fiber arts so I also learned kitting, crocheting, tatting, weaving, etc. I was teaching 18 year olds how to use a sewing machine when I was 12. I got a science degree, got married nearly a decade ago at 25 and now have 3 kids and a stable marriage, with a kind and respectful husband. My mom has a master's and my parents are approaching their 50th anniversary. Education only helps moms be better moms and I don't see any how they think you have to give up basic education to learn how to cook and clean. You absolutely can learn both academic and domestic skills at a young age while still having a full and lengthy childhood. And the boys learning nothing but trade is such a disservice. My dad and brother are more respected at work and the community BECAUSE they can cook and sew etc. I'd consider myself a failure as a mom if my boys didn't learn at least the basics of cooking and sewing as well as my daughter. I started cooking with all of them around 2 and they've all held at least a plastic darning needle in hand. Before they move out I also expect all 3 of them to learn how to change the oil of a car, balance a check book, be well versed in our religion, and get minimum a highschool diploma, and I don't think that's too much to expect of every kid. Childhood should never end at 16. They argue that those kids are more mature, but that's not what I'm seeing at all. I can't believe all the 14, 15, 16 year olds that LOOK like they're in their early 20's but still act like immature young children. This whole things is really tragic. Ignorance is not a culture.

[@iamjustsaying4787]

It’s not that they’re expected to be stay at home moms. It’s how the men treat them. There’s no greater joy than being housewife with a loving respectful supportive husband. Trouble is that he is extremely rare.

[@Lismaniely]

As much as i think these kids are being rushed into adulthood i think the way they cherish and look up to their family members is unmatched

[@janahcoaching]

How does the UK actually allow this? School should be mandatory until 14-16, like many other European countries. Other than that, I think kids working with the family is great, they all learn how to feed their family and make money, many other kids bever learn that at a young age.

[@LatchKeyKid_78]

They are Travelers the government doesn’t care about them.

[@HeidiSholl]

It is mandatory until 18, which is why it's still so strange to me that this community seems to be exempt? I'm wondering if it's just easier for our authorities to turn a blind eye in the case of travellers. But I do agree that doing real work can be good for teenagers too. I started working at 16 (part time after school) and I actually do think that was hugely important, it contributed to confidence building and learning how to talk to people who aren't friends my age!

[@efitz3397]

In Ireland travellers have less of a mortality rate than in the settled community and the rates for domestic violence is higher too. They should not be allowed to operate outside the law, leaving school early, illegal horse racing on the roads to name but a few!

[@Lismaniely]

Patty and his boys be living foreal LMAO

[@mirandachristina3412]

These kids are happy, well fed and well presented, loved, educated beyond the system and very cool! Also love thiersense of pride in themselves, thier animals and homes. Bloody impressive❤👍

[@LauraGCB]

Wow jimmy is a proper big brother

[@landonducharme7657]

Not all little girls can sing,its best not to encourage when the talents not there! Dont set up a child for failure!😢

[@dogsareprecious4842]

Watching those little boys ride those DANGEROUS vehicles without helmets gave me so much anxiety!

[@erinl1729]

The mouths of the kids man o man!

[@dixie6294]

That's the point,barefoot and pregnant,and cleaning....

[@harmonyln7]

I understand the thing of wanting to keep traditions alive, but don't just pull the *children* out of education as soon as they hit 10 or 12 years old. Even one of the boys was talking about wanting to leave school and work with his dad, but you would never legally be allowed to go up on roofs or do near enough any of the things until at least the age of 16 or 18 and only then if you have the appropriate training and certificates and things.. Can we say child labor?

[@3minutestill]

2:13 😂😂he didn't know what that meant? 12 year old me would have fought! You calling me poor?! 😂😂 maybe his ignorance is a good thing😂😂😂

[@BellaIsMyBaby]

I've seen so many of these Gypsy shows now. It makes me so sad that they aren't ensuring their children get a decent education. I understand many of them left school early, so homeschooling would be tough, but they have to have the wits to atleast get their kids some tutoring instead of just working. Let the kids be kids so they can have a better chance at a future. Like the 1 brother explained, even in trade work, you need to understand how to read, write & comprehend ATLEAST basic math. These are some of the brightest & well rounded children I've seen on these shows. Seeing how much worse it is for the majority, is somewhat disturbing. The culture is more or less animalistic & all centered around catering to men, bc they're literally trained/brainwashed that their lives are about homemaking, which fully keeps them dependent on the men. I would hope that more traveller girls gain some dreams bigger for their futures. Atleast so they have the skills if they ever do need to get away & can then fend for themselves. If they were smart, all the females would marry outside of the community, so that it could safetly end the sickness within their "culture." Seeing the amount of abuse & young girls dressing & acting like baby prostitutes, is genuinely distubring. Odd that they aren't showing that side of it on a lot of these children's episodes.

[@marychristmas4911]

So if travellers live on a permanent site, they're no longer travelling, so surely they can longer be classed as travellers 🤔

[@YOLO-yx2nz]

And take part in said crazy so called “traditions”

[@dmemcfc3]

Some of these kids come of with some comments that had me in stitches Shannon saying about gorger girls can't last without their phones for longer than a minute with a shock on her face then she says I can Shhh.. haha I can go without mine for 20 minutes 😂

[@jillgott6567]

You might want to be a roofer but an education can keep you from being cheated, ensure you know what money is coming in and going out. As for the girls Good Lord teach them ! It is not a waste of minds if someone wants to stay home and raise their children. BUT, if there are no other choices in life you are limiting them.

[@TigrissJiatanglimhak]

Usually I would say it’s sad, but being an adult myself now, I’m like, the kids saying they don’t want to be at school is really how all of us as adults feel about study and work. It’s tough out here haha. So I’m conflicted about how I feel. Condemn the ignorance or appreciate the honesty

[@annapaw6027]

I understand that gypsy community value their ways of living, but the world is moving on, and you can only sustain your ways but adapting. Younger generation is your future, and they must choose your values not being groomed cos this is the quickest way to resetment and end of your community. Education is a must have if you want your young generation to help you survive. Education provides options, new ideas, and self-respect. I have two degrees, and I'm stay at home mum by choice. The difference is I always have a choice.

[@feministmermaid4769]

They act like a person can't learn to clean and cook AND anything else 🙄 it's not an either-or. Most people in the world work and somehow eat too.

[@elasticheart6694]

The little girl tht sings oatsy clibe cracks me up shes so cute 😍

[@gumisora]

I think they need to wait until 15 to leave school if they want, but they need to learn more than just 5 years of education. Mother are no capable to teach kids to write and read and it's going generation to generation.

[@elenafun1413]

As a non-native English speaker I have difficulty sometimes with understanding these kids and adults, but then I remember the scene from the Snatch movie where the native speakers couldn’t understand the travelers (Brad Pitt) and I less worry after that 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ashotofmercury]

🙏🏻🤣

[@jesswueb9505]

Audio stops working at 13 minutes… anyone else have this problem? Its happened on a lot of these videos

[@knory123]

It's only for a minute or so and the audio pops right back

[@judydamelio2218]

If the girls are cleaning and looking after the children what is the Mom doing all day?

[@tiffanykim2773]

These traditions need to be refined because they keep these people in an endless cycle of abuse, ignorance and poverty. It's kinda sad. But it's their way I guess 🤷🏽‍♀️.

[@TheWhiteGyrfalcon]

Ps as many have said i admire the work hard ethics they teach their kids, the genuine love, friendship and respect these kids give the parents and each other as siblings. Helping out, doing your part, family comes first! I admire these morals and ethics being taught here. It's nice to see kids be kids and play outside. I like the school idea. Clearly they need to rethink kids leaving school that young, for both sexes

[@HaveCommonSense76]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@kezzokav5905]

I feel so sorry for the kids in this community who will grow up to be gay. They will have to either leave everything and everyone they know or live a lie to please them.

[@toriamigo]

This is absolutely fascinating. Wow. What a great insight.

[@WhoamI0318]

Oh Lord shes just a little girl but take the microphone from her

[@itsdebs]

Anyone who dealt with travellers and their horses may take a different view on how some travellers treat their horses

[@Abutado]

I'm in Oregon and descend from the Romani people that came here. I didn't grow up practicing any of their traditions, it was just known that's where my maternal family comes from. I've been greatly intrigued to learn more. I do see some similarities in personalities and ideas in their culture to mine, and there are some habits I wish I could imbue more of (like housekeeping 😅). Overall though, I'm a bit grateful that I haven't dealt with the racism/bias/bullying as well as the home insecurities to the extent they have (or the culture of grabbing 😅). I hope you get more of a feel after more ancestry tracking.

[@LeolaGlamour]

Prejudice not racism

[@firandcurly84]

I know this is a dumb question but why are they traveling?

[@madtempleofno7795]

😅whAt do you think?

[@bettinaorevil5056]

His big brother want him to stay in school so he can learn to write 🥹

[@r_me_mom4806]

So, other than the religion aspect, Travellers aren't any different than Amish here in the states. They focus on traditional male and female roles, which something can be said for those beliefs missing in today's society. I agree with a comment i read about education being tailored more toward their lifestyle. This would help tremendously.

[@pburke5274]

There are enormous differences. I believe that the Amish are honest , hardworking and respectful towards others?

[@YOLO-yx2nz]

@@pburke5274I agree as someone who lives in Amish lands, they are wayyyyyy different from Irish travelers by a long shot. And I respect the Amish way more than a Irish traveler, though I would still give them an equal chance

[@jeannettemagin3291]

One big difference is they don’t live on other peoples land for free!! It’s stealing!! They move because they don’t pay taxes or fees like the other people they mooch off of.. it’s not the same world it was 50 years ago.. no one talks about the meth problem or alcoholism!! Breaking laws is not a way to show children “traditions”

[@carrotspaghetti236]

I'm in a Mennonite area where the girls only attend school through 8th grade. It seems to work out well enough. There are many home schoolers here and they are generally well educated, but I have met home schooled daughters of mothers who only went until age 13 and their writing and arithmetic skills were maybe at 4th grade level, so....

[@I_am_not_your_sister]

you should watch the interviews with former amish- sexual abuse is rampant, that's not lifestyle anybody should want its like a cult

[@michellel564]

Look we grew up exactly like these kids in the mountains but we went to school too😅 Both can be done. It doesn't have to be either,or, it can be both.😢

[@kayflynn2523]

42. I still struggle with ‘the maths’

[@bettinaorevil5056]

If schools taught housekeeping skills, these girls would not have to leave to learn at home

[@paulineduthie96]

Isn't it legal for children To go to school until 16

[@tinatina1104]

18 now

[@EugeniaCooneyClips11]

So sad for all the poor animals 💔

[@Kalani_Saiko]

What about the kids?

[@EugeniaCooneyClips11]

@@Kalani_Saiko I said what I said ?

[@sharonmarie66]

Over here in Ireland the cruelty to dogs and horses is diabolical, they dispose without a thought once their purpose is over, leaving animal rescues to pick up the pieces

[@Babysharkpuppet]

13:39 the audio cut- 😂😂

[@busymama8537]

How is it legal that a child can drop out of school at age 10???

[@btsarmygirl9750]

Different culture so they have to respect their culture

[@vampfire-radio]

How do they get to leave school so early without their parents going to jail? I thought it was law you had to stay in education until you're 16?

[@ebonymurray7370]

Home schooling is the main way to get around it

[@findingbeautyinthepain8965]

The video said the UK has special laws for travelers. It shouldn’t be that way. These kids, at least, need to learn basic math, reading, and writing. Most of them didn’t have a grasp on the basics. They should need to take a test, and prove they know the basics, in order to leave school.

[@j.lingle4713]

@@ebonymurray7370- “homeschooling” assumes that the parents are teaching state-mandated/approved curriculum. They’re just teaching girls how to clean and cook, while they teach boys how to make money.

[@roses_of_ludovico2709]

They keep the children uneducated to control them. Shameful. You can love and be proud of your culture whilst being educated and providing your children with a safe and healthy home. The elders pick and choose which part of the Bible they follow. You reap what you sow. Bless the kids.

[@missselizabeth5696]

Letting one child teach another child gun safety is ridiculous!

[@Namu_Min]

Children should not be allowed to leave school at such a young age. In Germany, schooling is compulsory for everyone for 10 years. This includes 4 years of elementary school and at least 5 years of secondary school.

[@paigedavis1753]

These children need education, this breaks my heart. How trapped these women must feel knowing they can’t leave their situation because they can’t read and write.