Prepper Kills Family Before Hiding in Bunker Packed with Guns and Food | Peter Keller Case Analysis

[@claremizusawa]

His daughter was enrolled in college courses related to Peter’s interests. Really sad how he didn’t see that as exciting.

[@susancruise1499]

I think we can assume he wasn't thinking straight

[@anjinsan5582]

There's a college course on building bunkers and murdering your family? Truly America is the land of opportunities for everyone

[@mikimiyazaki]

Youve gotta be absolutely rotten and not have an ounce or glint of any decency whatsoever to murder your daughter. Wife obviously, but at least i can somewhat understand action in that his wife didnt come from him. He raised his little girl all the way to what? Young adulthood? I don't have kids but i have a huge soft spot for little girls. My best friend growing up had a daughter at like 16 and i was basically her uncle. Shes a beautiful adult now but ill always remember her as the cutest sweetest little girl lol. I was always playing with her she was my favorite kid ever. Just thee sweetest little cute smart kid ever. Id literally have gone berserk on anyone if i ever found out she was mistreated etc. i cant even imagine how much more the drive to protect her would be if she was my own daughter. There are certain evil people and evil acts i have 0 ability to understand even on a base level (like how husbands murder there own wives etc).

[@theproplady]

I saw the videos of him and his wife and it's clear the family was walking on eggshells around him. The dog outright hated him and snarled at him, as if it could sense his evil. When the wife talked about meeting him and him wanting to marry her right away, I thought about the kind of love-bombing that narcissists do.

[@KyleReinhard]

Your insight is very clever. I was married to a narcissist and thought I had an honorary degree on the subject, but I didn’t pick up on the love bombing in the video. Most people post judgemental comments, but yours is beaming with wisdom!

[@Blissfulnessence]

Peter Keller, what a feller, Built himself an in ground cellar. Offed his wife and his kid, Then Peter Keller ran and hid. Cops soon swarmed from clues he gave, And Keller's cellar became his grave. On a more solemn note, rip Lynette and Kaylene who seemed like very beautiful souls.

[@need-to-know-]

Bars! If they make a horror film based on the events, your poem should be used in it.

[@clicheguevara5282]

bars

[@Taco_Raider]

Keller wasn't a smart feller Keller was a fart smeller

[@Blissfulnessence]

I get that stuff stuck in my head (like intrusive rhyme lol), but usually refrain from posting. Thanks, i'm glad it's appreciated 😚

[@bellyfulochelly4222]

Hey, you could really help us when we're short on time if you continue to post these intrusive lyrical summaries.

[@l.s.s.8-8-16]

Another channel looked at this case and showed some of the footage from his AND his wife's videos (to earn extra money, his wife had a KZbin channel of crafts projects and life hacks.) In her videos, she mentioned that he was such a generous man and took care of the family and you could tell that she was genuinely grateful to him. In HIS videos, he called her lazy and a moocher ..it was so heartbreaking to see that she trusted and loved a man who thought of her as dirt.😢

[@kellykane7586]

This guy used the "Prepper" idea as an excuse to make a hideout for when he murdered his family.The fact that he killed the dog shows he just wanted an excuse to kill. He was board w/life and didn't want to support his loved ones financially or emotionally.I can't imagine his wife's last thoughts... forget infidelity, this is truly the ultimate betrayal. What a pathetic excuse for a man. I hope his victims are resting in peace. This was a sad one😢

[@HANZELVANDERLAAY]

Coward .lowest of the low

[@clicheguevara5282]

Wrong. He killed his dog (who he actually loved) because he was afraid the dog might give away his location in the bunker. He also took a very long time to work up the courage to kill his family. This guy wasn't motivated by killing at all. Killing was a means to an end.

[@GrannySoupLadle]

He is a 5’5” dude with narcissism, those dudes always end up killing people.

[@angeladansie4378]

Thank you. As someone who is very into preparedness, i.e. a "prepper," albeit a politically left-leaning one, I don't see his actions as "prepping."

[@peternovellie6409]

He was bored, but maybe used some boards in his hideout.

[@ladycake1515]

European here. Underground bunker is never a positive thing.... And avoid men with self built submarines.

[@ShannonStevens-gl7le]

"Avoid men with self built submarines" I spit out my coffee laughing at that, even though it's actually solid advice!

[@geraldfriend256]

We all died in a yellow submarine. A yellow submarine . A yellow submarine.

[@ImNotaRussianBot]

Right? It stinks of an unsettled mind that is riddled with mental illness and conspiracy theories.

[@aliciagriggs8531]

Paranoid schizophrenia. ( but I'm not diagnosing anybody only speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this.)

[@elizabethhamm5320]

I’ve heard you cover a lot of cases involving people who murdered their spouses and children. There are normally warning signs, but in this one, he managed to not give any concrete ones. Very tragic. He killed the two people who helped him achieve his dream of building a bunker. He could have worked towards retirement, and then lived in the bunker without a care in the world. There was no need to do something so horrific and drastic.

[@corvus8638]

Idk building a bunker in the middle of the woods seems like a red flag

[@LeeannG]

The thing I don’t understand is how he spent days in the woods and his family never asked any questions about it.

[@victorimmature]

but if people did that , we would not have Dr. Todd Grande . :)

[@Stardustpal25]

​@@LeeannG families often hostage to strongest personality, no asking this guy for anything, just keep him happy in his play bunker k? He looks so menacing. RIP Kaylene and Mom 🌹🌹

[@librab2497]

@corvus8638 seriously, the bunker thing is a pretty big red flag

[@wheelstandr]

This guy is one of the most confusing of all the cases you've covered. Huge drive to survive, but none for his wife and daughter. This is narcissism on steroids! Seriously! Ironically, the military has a saying; a cave is a grave. To be safe he did dig a cave to be saved, even while knowing it may be his grave.

[@olilumgbalu5653]

I have a saying...the military creates graves wherever they go. Also if he really had such a "huge drive to survive", why did he commit suicide in the end?

[@CrotalusKid]

I don't think you understand what narcissism is.

[@mrs.reluctant4095]

Nomen est omen. This man's last name is the German word for basement, cellar, bunker.

[@LDiamondz]

Hmm...I wonder if Peter knew this? Definitely an omen. Too bad his name wasn't Baker. Then, he might have just menaced his family with carbs, sugar. lol. How are you Mrs.Reluctant? Gtsy! Hope you're well. ❤

[@mrs.reluctant4095]

@@LDiamondz Sweet comment, TY! Always nice to read from you! ❤

[@RomanKOZAK-ef1up]

I think he knew the meaning of his lastname... 😊

[@mowabb]

Don’t think you can call him a prepper if he’s doing out of boredom and wanting excitement in his life. Seems to me he realized if he was going to live an exciting life of robbing banks he couldn’t keep a traditional address and people who knew of his hideout. He’s like a villain who needs a lair during the day when not committing crimes.

[@Rebecca-hc5ju]

Agree.

[@selenamccoig4017]

More of a hideout than a traditional pepper bunker. This is pretty clear in his videos.

[@Barb85044]

He was a loner. He loved no one except his dog, but ultimately killed everything that loved him.

[@aarondavis8943]

Yes I can't imagine many banks being operational after society crumbles. Grande misread this case.

[@BadgerBotherer1]

A perfectly-presented portrait of a perplexing prepping person.

[@Bobby20222]

😂

[@blueStarKitt7924]

😂😂

[@PetkesPaintings]

Admittedly, we all are in awe of our allies amazing alliteration despite the disturbing deeds of dis disgruntled dickhead.

[@jbuckley2546]

Piss poor presentation.

[@sunglassesron9464]

No need to kill his family! He could just feck off to the woods if that's what he wanted to do.

[@piotrekszczepanski5125]

Aye! I couldn't agree more!

[@piotrekszczepanski5125]

Or is "Aye" a Scottish phrase? I'm a dumb Aussie and I honestly can't tell the difference.... and I'm well aware that fact offends both sides.... So, was I right the first time or should I just go feck off and die?

[@dirtinmyeye6505]

​@@piotrekszczepanski5125Everybody in favor, say Aye. All those opposed say Nay. It's a good word.

[@mutinyonthekitkat]

Stories that involve a 'secret underground bunker' usually end badly in my experience.

[@a.walters123]

Right? It doesn’t even end well.

[@pipermccool]

Even without the “secret” part. : /

[@jerryw6699]

I know a guy that lives in one, he's a piece

[@inthedeadhours]

Fallout has a decent ending

[@JJRossi]

Dont tell Colin Furze that!

[@megalopolis2015]

This guy was so busy planning to keep his body alive, but neglected his soul. He was a so-called survivalist, but destroyed any reason he had to Live. He was clueless. His family was the best part about him.

[@LKre-vi5oq]

Couldn't have said it better. Thanks for that.

[@Hautenani]

This is what these people don’t understand. It’s spiritual warfare they need to be fighting, not physical.

[@stacyflood4319]

​@@HautenaniExactly!!! 🙏

[@matthew6695]

@@Hautenaniwhat are your thoughts on LGTBQ?

[@TheTrevelyansway]

Thanks Captain obvious.

[@sandangels73]

That's a shame. I don't understand why people want to kill others in these situations. He didn't do it to "save" them, because he intended to live alone. His daughter was 18, he could have just left and not killed them.

[@mikimiyazaki]

You gotta be some predatory demonic alien from another dimension as a father to murder your own flesh and blood. That saying daddys girl is because dads instinctively absolutely love there daughters. So fkcn depressing.

[@RomanKOZAK-ef1up]

They would have revealed the bunker to the cops after his crime spree...

[@Stargazergirl104]

I’m so glad you covered this case. He’s a sick sick individual. I watched some of his videos he made leading up to the horror. It’s fascinating and quite disturbing at the same time. But, why did he have to take his wife , daughter and dogs’ lives as well? He really thought the fire would burn the evidence 😢

[@l.s.s.8-8-16]

Can you imagine what would have happened to the poor firefighters who would have gone into the house to try to put out the fire? If the canisters of gasoline had ignited, there would have been 5 more victims and he might have gotten away with his plan !😢

[@JulioCezar-we9zo]

I've read about this case in the news and thought that would be great to see the video from Dr Grande. In here it is. As always very interesting. Thanks.

[@philochristos]

Ever since the pandemic, I've become somewhat of a prepper. I never have less than 30 rolls of toilet paper at any given time.

[@bthomson]

Mine would be canned cat food - very hard to get there for a while! 🙀

[@ph11p3540]

Canned toilet papper

[@micnorton9487]

I never understood the toilet paper rationale,, we just kept newspapers for awhile lol....

[@BeachsideHank]

We save our corncobs.

[@fritzidler9871]

Yes. I also hoard hand sanitizer and canned goods. Nothing excessive, just a few weeks worth. I also bought a bunch of How-To books about emergencies, but haven't really read them yet. 😂

[@northernlighter]

Guy spends 8 years building a "survival" bunker, then commits suicide in it.

[@berlingolingoful]

8 years

[@F_Yale]

It's clear that he was a fkin loser.

[@duanecarroll8255]

I can remember there was a guy named Adolph that did that in a bunker...

[@manictiger]

@@duanecarroll8255 To be fair, the amount of personal effort for that was minimal and he didn't think he'd have to use it anyway, because... Well, obviously he was winning the war. His tanks were better. His planes were better. His generals were better. What could possibly go wrong?

[@tglake2894]

​@@duanecarroll8255It took this nutjob longer to build the bunker than the so-called thousand year Reich lasted after invading Poland

[@JPTravels2]

Just watched another lengthy video on this case but as always, I can count on Dr. Grande to provide an incredibly thorough and concise summary and analysis that trumps others. Thanks, Dr. Grande!

[@martineldritch]

He was upset that it was he that was falling apart instead of the society and government around him.

[@LKre-vi5oq]

Exactly. An unstable, unhappy loser who had to blame all his failings on somebody else. Namely wife and child. An obsessive, homicidal narcissist. RIP to wife, daughter and dog.

[@blueStarKitt7924]

Yes.

[@blueStarKitt7924]

​@@LKre-vi5oqYes.😞🙏❤️

[@Ktmfan450]

He would have loved Jan6 and Trump

[@livelurked4103]

This guy didn't deserve what he had.

[@AndySalinger33]

Greetings Dr. Grande, longtime subscriber here. Forgive my fixation on such minutiae, but I notice you now have eight cacti on your set, whereas in previous videos, there were seven. I’m just curious if there’s any symbolic reason for this, or if it’s merely an aesthetic choice. I suspect the latter. Thanks for your fascinating presentations. As always, I appreciate your calm, easygoing pacing, as well as your comforting voice. Upon watching your latest uploads, I await with pleasure, your exquisitely dry joke. When I’m lucky, you’ll employ lovely little alliterations, which I long for, like a lavish latte. This video is no exception. To wit: 15:22 - 15:52. This one must be your best yet, and that’s saying something! I’m fully floored at the frequency of your fancy flourishes here, for sure! Thanks again for taking the time to add these elements, just for our amusement! Great stuff. Cheers. x

[@melissagrimstead7324]

I will never understand why people murder their spouse or family. If you're unhappy just leave. 🤷😢

[@yosemite735]

He would have owed her alimony for the rest of her life because of not working.

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

It's an "ownership" thing......when my son passed away my ex-wife decided not to inform me, I was working overseas and only got home once every 4 month's. He was dead and cremated, His Ashes are in her backyard and it's taken me 4+ year's to get access to His last resting place.

[@nanettevantriesteharder2469]

@@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg I am so sorry for your loss.

[@watermelonwishes4193]

​@@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg😥

[@excellentcomment]

Answer: He was insane.

[@BansheesBanshin]

Thank you for all your hard work! 🙏

[@nomopms1]

The dude's brain was rattled. Learning from my grandparents, I've always made sure we have extra in case one loses their job, gets sick....earthquake, tsunami, etc. I'm not doing the whole bunker thing. Above all, I want to provide for and protect my family. There's no way in heck I'd kill them! I'm sitting here shaking my head. This dude had some real serious issues. On top of that, he had some beans and a way to make wine? He wasn't a good prepper. Nope.

[@jenna2431]

Peter Prepper packed a pantry pit for peril. Paranoid Peter pumped his partner and his progeny. Peter Prepper's prison portion was predicted but for a pistol.

[@tedcrilly46]

monorail!

[@geraldfriend256]

That’s easy for you yo say buddy

[@Bobby20222]

😂

[@rayross997]

One would think people would have learned from Hitler's rather negative bunker experience.

[@stevecastro1325]

I am amazed at the ability of the author to add alliterative amusement to an already adequate anecdote and aptness for abstaining from abject absurdity.

[@tinad8561]

Are there more family annihilators than there used to be, or are we talking about them more?

[@cheeseballs3825]

During covid lockdowns I know family murders went up. Not sure if it tapered off, or it's still higher than before.

[@blueStarKitt7924]

Good question.🤔

[@Ktmfan450]

The ability for women to divorce their husbands has probably contributed somewhat Fragile male egos afraid of losing power Also guns

[@666MaRius9991]

There are less,believe it or not humanity is getting better.We just see everything now.

[@retsaMinnavoiG]

@@666MaRius9991 I've tried explaining that to people but they refuse to listen to anything because 'it's right in front of your eyes!'. Yeh it is right in front of your eyes but if you turned off your internet and TV it wouldn't be.

[@anikopocsai6163]

416 views 7 min. following release. It's because us hard-core fans are ready when the new upload appears! Thank you Dr Grande 😊

[@thelostronin]

You forgot one movie that the group motivated by fear probably connect to... The Road. One of the most terrifying movies I have ever seen.

[@axhed]

reading that book was a miserable experience.

[@mowabb]

Even if he didn’t kill his family, are people allowed to just go into the forest and build a compound if they don’t own the land directly? Can anyone fill me in on this, I’m genuinely curious in how this works. Are people allowed to do this in public national forests and parks? If it isn’t illegal I’m shocked more people don’t do it.

[@WestOfEarth]

You can't do this legally.

[@NealBurkard-ut1oo]

People are allowed on state land and national, however it is illegal to leave property, divert water using piping, cut down trees. Etc

[@evelynwaugh4053]

No, it's not at all legal. I suspect that he would also have murdered any hiker who happened upon his secret bunker.

[@kaybee8205]

I don't think he was particularly concerned about legalities of things.

[@azulgaia7782]

people do it all the time here. you'll come across little poorly built forts that someone psychopathic survivalist thought was a good idea, but obviously couldn't stand to live in. Summers are short here and thank god there's 6 feet of snow and rain all winter or they would be full time residents. Forest service doesn't have the staff or guns to rout them all. but if enough of the land is trashed by 'camping" they will block the area so you can't drive close to it. Most of these jerks are lazy and not as ambitious as this ______ was.

[@lindas5964]

Although he was indeed “preparing for the end of the world”, it didn’t seem like he thought the outside world was going to end, more like he knew he was terribly depressed and his own “inner world” was coming to an end. It’s strange to me how a lot of these suicide types feel they need to kill their whole family in attempt to save them from suffering in a life without them. The human mind works in terrible and mysterious ways…

[@drn13355]

I see the prepping really helped his family to remain safe.

[@nattie911]

Can't wait to see the video he'll make about Bad Surgeon: Dr. Paolo Macchiarini

[@dissidentfairy4264]

What a selfish man without a conscience who was devoid of love and natural affection! He was a lazy man who no longer wanted to work. If he wanted to leave his family and live in the bunker on his own, why didn't he? He didn't have to kill his wife and daughter to do it. 🧚

[@dissidentfairy4264]

Isn't ironic how he was so obsessed with his own survival while not caring about anyone else's.

[@GM-vr2yh]

When mid life crisis’ go beyond buying a sports car and having an affair

[@sandy-quimsrus]

No good ever comes out of building underground bunkers. Put your energy into enjoying your life, buy a boat and go fishing instead. Great calmness comes from being by the sea⛵🌊.

[@datbat1]

Unless you're Dexter Morgan.

[@sandy-quimsrus]

@@datbat1 I'd rather not be his 'passenger', especially a dark one.

[@Darkwarlord1533]

This guy was a piece of work. Apparently, he was mad at his wife for not contributing to the household income and he grew to hate her. His daughter probably was just collateral damage. EWU has a cool video dissecting his video diaries.

[@hopeausbyn1734]

Out in the Woods behaving like a Manchild.

[@OneBadAssMoMo]

She received disability checks so, she did contribute, she also made and sold scrapbooks! Since it took 8 yrs to come to fruition I’m confused as to his why…. She still worked when he started the camp Keller!

[@greatamericandreamrealtyli6583]

What is EWU?

[@Darkwarlord1533]

@@greatamericandreamrealtyli6583 Explore With Us, It's a true crime channel on KZbin.

[@Ktmfan450]

​@@greatamericandreamrealtyli6583 ExploreWithUs

[@nickg4856]

Dr Grande, such a penchant for word play!

[@skepticusmaximus184]

WHAT? Nothing about how Peter Prepper Picked a Peck of Pickled Peppers? 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Oh, but I do love those alliterations you do Doc. You're a treasure. ❤ Merry Christmas to you your family and your lovely pooch too.

[@SparkesIsRunning]

oh my thoughts exactly!!

[@librab2497]

My dad lives in north bend Washington. I lived there for a few months at the end of 2003, and have lived about 2 hours away since then. I'm surprised I've never heard of this.

[@Jeanninecomeau]

I know a couple of preppers. They also think (for example) Britney Spears online is an actor and so is Joe Biden. I told them, "ok, I can get that, but why and why would they make them crazy and senile if they're actors?" Never really got an answer that makes sense.

[@NealBurkard-ut1oo]

Conspiracy theorists will or want to believe anything except the most logical answers. I know a few (some of their theories are absurd and offensive), but one of my favorite is that human species were created by aliens to mine gold years ago. However they also claim aliens visit earth, abduct humans, and perform experiments on us to learn about humans. Why would aliens need to do experimental research on humans if they created our species? 😂

[@LibertyOrD___h]

Your conflating a prepper with a conspiracy theorist…. But Brittany was a child star who got used and abused by elitist p*dos while Joe is a career political puppet elected by rigged elections

[@geraldfriend256]

@@NealBurkard-ut1ooThat is preposterous. We are put here to mine uranium, not gold.

[@MrNexor-cj8gs]

I've never met a prepper that wasn't "off."

[@DavianSinner]

@@NealBurkard-ut1oo Yes, I have a friend who has watched every "Ancient Aliens" episode and believes all of it. He has even told me how the aliens needed Earth's gold and changed early man to make them mine it. It's crazy, and I just smile and nod.

[@MEL2theJ]

Returning to watch this analysis again. Thank you Dr. Grande 🙏

[@marciabosteder9781]

Not a prepper, He was a survivalist .

[@animula6908]

There’s a lot of overlap.

[@diegodonjuan]

Nah, this was like a villain bunker. This dude is like a scary movie character.

[@tedcrilly46]

there are some other terms which also seem to apply to peter.

[@Panwere36]

Wonderful alliteration, Dr. Grande!!

[@natwhite1679]

Hide your bunker well But when you get old or sick and eventually die nobody will find you.

[@stt5v2002]

Neighbors: “He seemed like such a normal guy.”

[@hopeausbyn1734]

Peter needed Mental Health Counseling, some good Psy meds, and a career change, as he was suffering a "Mid Life Crisis."

[@mistrjt9213]

What the hell was the point in all that???! 🤦🏻 Why prepare to survive a post-apocalyptic world only to get his brains all over the place in less than 24 hours. 🙄

[@lisasmith7066]

I saw a video about this. I’m glad you covered it. I was curious as to what was wrong with him. One thing that I wondered about was did he kill his family to protect them in some morbid way? He could have just divorced and gone off the grid. Scary.

[@Ryan_Rants]

The alliteration at the end was impressive! The page "explore with us" shows a lot of the video footage for this case. You can see the cold and calculated nature of Peter. He was so matter of fact about "what he had to do". There is also video footage of his wife talking about how great he is, and his daughter filming him and laughing with him. Absolutely heartbreaking this one.

[@diegodonjuan]

It really sucks to not get the full confession and motive. He seemed to have the perfect life... Aside from the underground bunker. Bunkers should be on the red flag list.

[@Ktmfan450]

Guy was a gun nut Psychological checks to buy guns could have saved their lives

[@EM-yc5il]

That closing statement was poetically filled with "p" words

[@greenbrain8725]

Here’s my theory, just an opinion: Peter as a child fantasized about building a forest fort in which he could be safe- possibly to avoid terrible childhood abuse, something he also alluded to. I suppose the thing(s) that happened to him completely broke him and that broken thing lived in him, stunting his ability to develop normally and achieving empathy. His broken mindset prompted him, as he approached 40, to return to the only thing that ever made sense to him. Something which he obsessed over as a helpless child living in constant danger, and never receiving empathy himself. His psyche was so damaged, that he never could rise above it, but instead he relied on maintaining a facade of normalcy which his personality created for him to survive in the world. Survive he did, but always as a sad empty shell with a broken child inside. When midlife approached he realized he could no longer continue and as he put it “could no longer fight it” and decided to do the only thing that made sense to him. He was so empty and dead it cannot be termed narcissistic, because narcissism is a form of self-preservation. He did not feel one iota of self-entitlement, because he despised himself and gave into it. He thought carefully and long about what to do with his loved ones and killed them as painlessly as possible. Perhaps he thought it was merciful. He took good care of them and couldn’t conceive of them continuing happily without him. His world view was such that they too were just hapless victims of being alive, as he was… they just didn’t know it, as he did. His self-recordings and his joyless nihilism are poignant and disturbing. I don’t think he fits the description of “prepper”. It’s a testament to how someone can be so broken on the inside while growing up that the inner resources required to grow mentally are irreparable. I wish someone would delve into his past. It’s a fascinating look at human nature. I feel that Dr. Grande didn’t do this story justice.

[@KyleReinhard]

This guy left “Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers” looking like a kindergarten recital.

[@SirenaSpades]

It sounds like he had a mental break. Was this post pandemic? People are needing a lot of mental services that many are not seeking. I don't think he was a prepper, most are family oriented.

[@Rebecca-hc5ju]

Before the pandemic. 2012 I believe.

[@steveshea7725]

I don't think he was a gun owner. Most of them don't commit murders. I don't think he was a gun owner. Most of them are not peppers. I don't think he was a gun owner. Most of them don't set fire to their homes.

[@wellscampbell9858]

I applaud your plosively punctuated postscript, and I am persuaded to pronounce that it is perfect.

[@natwhite1679]

If you don't like your family just divorce or leave.

[@yosemite735]

He would owe alimony and the daughter would not be on his side.

[@ophanimangel3143]

His daughter was 18 that time. She would have been independent from both.

[@lanadaniels4989]

I love the ending analysis!

[@deboracopeland4795]

I would bet that he did DV against his wife. Just because she was sweet to him in a recorded video, doesn’t mean he wasn’t abusing her. Sometimes a woman will say good things about an abuser to keep the peace. He put himself and his wishes ahead of his family by building this bunker. He could have done many things for his family with all that money and time.

[@ost324]

I agree. There’s little hints in the things she says in some of the video clips. Like being afraid to wake him up in one. Very subtle.

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

Always best to go with "feeling's" Deb. How are your Cats?

[@deboracopeland4795]

@@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg oh brutal. Unfortunately when the Drs told me that I would be dead in about three months I rehomed my kitties. It was part of my trying to put things in order so my 82 year old mother wouldn’t have to. Sold my house, car etc. I grieve for my kitties most of all. I think of them everyday even after 18 months. I worry that they are okay. I am in remission and doing great but still grieving for my babies that I bottle fed. I have no way to check on them as they were adopted by a friend of a former friend. So that’s how the cats are. I live across country now, but I still have my doggo because he was earmarked to go to my mom so there is that and he’s doing great. See how your offhanded remark led to a long story.

[@ShakazuluJones]

Neighbors describe Keller as a "great guy" that always said "hello" and always asked about "your mom and nem".

[@MrTheEdge]

Dr. Grande! Still a fan. I just got your book on the Psychology of Notorious Serial Killers at my Work Christmas Party! I cannot wait to read it. Keep up the exceptional work !

[@m.f.richardson1602]

Always interesting Thank you

[@bthomson]

And clever!

[@vladimirputindreadlockrast812]

Well, you told us who he was, but why he murdered his wife, daughter, then himself is unexplained. Being a prepper isn't really a motive.

[@DrBellaLJ]

He was having delusions and was psychotic. A person who is psychotic has lost touch with reality. He thought he was doing his family a favor and so he wouldn’t have to worry about them because he was the one who was providing for the family. This is not uncommon in murder suicides. Keller was delusional and wanted to live in an underground bunker since he was a teenager. I actually watched the entire video made by Keller. It’s pretty chilling. He had to work up the idea of “accepting what needed to be done.”

[@clicheguevara5282]

Also, he wasn't even a "prepper" at all. Preppers are preparing to survive a total breakdown of society. This guy just had a teenage fantasy of living in the woods and had no interest in survival.

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

He was probably afraid his family would become "Zombified" during the Apocalypse?. These preppers think in "Absolutes"

[@byronfoppola8676]

All preppers are delusional. I wouldn't trust any of them.

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

@@byronfoppola8676 What?.....don't you know that the Zombies are coming!

[@spiffygonzales5160]

Honestly the bunker looks cool and as a project seems cool. Shame that the dude was selfish to the point where he'd rather rob and kill his own family than get a job.

[@SirenaSpades]

Guessing the pandemic made his business or sales fail, which didn't help the situation.

[@vicvega3614]

​@@SirenaSpadesthis happened in 2012. And to the original comment he did work

[@corvus8638]

@@SirenaSpadesExcuses

[@Rebecca-hc5ju]

Agree. After watching EWU's upload about him, I was impressed by all he was able to create.

[@MsSilverTulip]

He did have a job. He was sick of the daily grind and he was depressed. The family had major financial issues and he resented his wife for not working. Meanwhile he blew thousands on this stupid underground cellar which he didn't even end up using for more than 3 days.

[@ShannonStevens-gl7le]

Watching this on EWU's channel, I was hoping Dr Grande would analyse it! This was crazy enough, but he documented it, which is just next level

[@drummerdorcas]

Not sure why we're even calling this guy a prepper. He did the same things as a prepper but the motivation behind it is completely different

[@marlyrondon2979]

You are extremely intelligent Dr Grande. Very informative and educational. Thank you so much. Loved the "P's" game in this narration too.

[@jeremybr2020]

I would definitely be a prepper if I could afford to be one. However I also definitely don't fit the role of a typical prepper. I despise conspiracy theorists and I have zero issues with authority. I have listened to a lot of post apocalyptic audio books. Whether its fantasy like zombies, or real threats like post global nuclear apocalypse, or EMP disasters, or gamma burst, one thing I believe that most of these books get right. Its that if a true disaster ever happens, things are going to get bad, really quick. Societal infrastructure is going to collapse rapidly. Just look at the beginning of the coronavirus. People rushing out and buying all the toilet paper and sanitizer that they could buy. Now imagine what would happen in a truly bad incident like a nuclear war. Or an asteroid hitting the planet, or a super volcano erupting. Imagine the panic then. And these things happening are not as far fetch as many would like to believe. We could easily have another pandemic with something far deadlier than covid. Nuclear war with Russia or N Korea or even China, are real possibilities. Are they likely to happen? Probably not. But if i had the money, I damn sure would want to be prepared if it ever does. One other thing those books get right, if you are trying to prepare AFTER the sh*t has already hit the fan, then you're probably as good as dead.

[@Traderjoe]

What was going on in the news around the time of the day he recorded the video? Something must have convinced him that then was the time. Whatever that was.

[@Floppyearsmomma]

How bizarre and sad.

[@BeruCampos]

Of course one of these dungeon warlords would snap some time

[@herculesbrofister265]

Another one of those "law abiding gun owners" that we so often hear about

[@SABbrew]

People all over are ready to snap. Look at all the "dont tread on me trucks" tailgating and instigating fights.

[@thestraydog]

@@SABbrew Had a dude with a Dodge Ram and a "We the People..." constitution sticker (among others) scream at me today because I was only going 30-35 in a 25. Truly unhinged people

[@bthomson]

Their rage is so close to the surface!

[@MsSilverTulip]

I watched his videos and other analyses. I think you missed the mark in this analysis. He wasn't a prepper. You ignored the fact that had severe financial issues and the family lived in a trailer/portable home. He secretly resented his wife because she could no longer work and he felt she was draining their finances (even though he injected many thousands into constructing his bunker). He didn't kill his family to cover up the location of the bunker - if that was the case he wouldn't have told them anything about it or taken his daughter to the area, or made videos about it. Keller annihilated his family partly due to the shame of being a failure and convinced himself it was necessary as he couldn't take care of them once he left society. Keller didn't seem narcissistic or psychopathic. He was very depressed and hated himself and the world. Yes, he was self-centred, but he also had low self esteem, described himself as unattractive and having no personality - that's doesn't seem consistent with narcissism. Also, you described him as having high neuroticism, which is inconsistent with psychopathy (psychopaths are low in neuroticism).

[@Mizzlenum]

I recently saw this case on Bruce Rivers channel. Stop self snitching. LOL. but it's always refresing to see a different take from Dr. Grande.

[@sandangels73]

Dr. Grande, I think you have overlooked another group of preppers...the graduates of the school of hard knocks. There are people who are considered preppers who prep because they have experienced hard times and hunger and try to safeguard against it for any future hard times. Rather than being driven by fantasy, it is driven from reality. These people are often ones whose needs have been ignored or downplayed. They may suffer from PTSD and not have proper help, or may not be able to attain the help they need. General mental health facilities don't have the same level of care for PTSD as the military, and the military doesn't even have the greatest care. These people live on the fringes of society and instead of getting the help they need, they are repeatedly turned down and rejected by society. Many have suffered on the fringes from childhood, consistently being failed by the system, and simply surviving the best they can. Maybe this is the same introverted group you referenced, and if so, you grossly misunderstand the interworking of their minds. This group has been disenfranchised and no longer believes that society has a place for them because they have been failed repeatedly. We live in a society that says that true poverty doesn't exist in America, but it does, and this group has felt the sting of living in that true poverty while their reality is being denied. It's like they are being gaslit by society. How can they not become distrustful and jaded? Please consider this group as well. They are the forgotten ones until their mere act of trying to survive puts them on the wrong side of the law, (mundane things that shouldn't even be illegal such as dumpster diving and camping in unauthorized areas) and they come in all colors, ages, and sexes. If the government isn't going to help them, then they need to leave them alone for simply trying to survive.

[@kaybee8205]

Hey, let's also not forget the people who happen to live in extremely rural areas prone to natural disasters. In my 20 years of living way out here, I've experienced multiple ice storms, snow storms, tornados, floods, and, of course, the lock down. There are times when it's not possible to get to town, or if you get there there's nothing there, sometimes for weeks. When the power goes down, we, out here, are the electric company's last priority. And if we have no power, we have no water. One winter, the roads were sheets of ice for weeks, no water, no power. They sent the national guard but they were busy helping people in the towns, they couldn't probably make it out here even if they tried. I remember breaking ice in the driveway to melt for water to make baby bottles and when there was absolutely nothing left to drink except driveway ice and hard liquor. Some of us stock up on things because it's stupid not to. Some of us learn survival skills because we've seen what a few weeks without power can do, and unexpected long-term power outages are something we must consider.

[@mr.horseshoe2301]

I think the reality was much simpler. He was a depressed middle-aged guy having a mid-life crisis. He blamed his mediocrity on his wife and daughter, who drained him of his money. He killed them in revenge.

[@erockromulan9329]

I don't think I have ever seen someone with the alliteration skills like Dr. Grande's. Purely amazing!

[@goofusmaximus1482]

Not to mention his signature deadpan humor.

[@rajsharma5316]

I see u put that P.P.P. check to good use Professor!!!

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about a bunker-building gun nut like this.

[@livelive7435]

I was waiting for you analysis on this case thank you Dr grande !!

[@lilbitsleepy2574]

I’ve watched a few vids on this guy but I missed some of the new info I heard here (like that he started construction of the bunker in 2004). It was certainly disturbing to see him apparently talk himself into killing his wife and daughter before reaching that stage of acceptance. I wondered why he didn’t just disappear, leave them behind, but if they knew as much as you mentioned here, there was no way he would let them risk his future, so now that makes sense too.

[@greenbrain8725]

I don’t think he cared about himself or his future. He gave into nihilism, despised himself, and thought his wife and daughter were hapless victims of being alive, as he was… they just didn’t realize it, as he did. He killed them mercifully (in his mind). His childhood fantasy of building a forest fort speaks of trying to get away from horriffic child abuse, something he alluded to. As he approached middle age he knew the only thing that would make him feel “alive” albeit temporarily, was to go back to that childhood impulse and build a bunker where he could feel safe. My theory, just an opinion.

[@ehrgeiz0]

Nice use of alliteration, like a certain nursery rhyme.

[@selecttravelvacations7472]

That was a lot of “P” words at the end, Doc. Impressive!

[@calendarpage]

Preppers also prep for joblessness, illness, and natural disasters that might disrupt the supply chain for awhile. You don't have to prep for Armageddon and having extra food and supplies on hand doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist. It just makes you prepared.

[@evelynwaugh4053]

There's normal prepping for potential emergencies. What he was doing wasn't normal. He could have gotten a part-time job with all the energy and time he spent constructing his hideout. He was just a guy who had repressed antisocial urges for a long time and finally decided to act them out. Tons of people built bomb shelters in their back yards during the Cold War. Rational and proportionate emergency preparation is great.

[@manictiger]

I do find that way too many of them don't prep for "what if nothing bad happens and society goes onward". It's a bit of a short-coming, I think. Prepare for all futures; that includes the one where you'll want a nice beefy investment account, friends, hobbies, etc.

[@DerekCully]

I worked with Pete at FedEx circa 2004-2006. I can’t believe what I am reading. He made our work-group, home-made beer.

[@weenbaby]

Did a documentary come out? Why is this suddenly popular again?

[@weenbaby]

@@caddieohm7059thanks 💜

[@ArtemisSmith]

Alliteration game at the end go crazy

[@ceilconstante640]

I recommend watching the video by EXPLORE WITH US:. When a Killer vlogs his murders. His wife and daughter had absolutely no idea. His wife was also completely out of touch with what was going on. Peter did not pick a peck of peppers.

[@ShannonStevens-gl7le]

I second that recommendation, the whole vlogs they had were chilling. Also, the ravens narration is really good.

[@vaneast411]

some nice alliteration following another very sad story

[@michaelgreer9023]

"Camp Keller" a symbol of fear, irreality and vulnerability😁 The famous Viennese psychoanalyst A. Adler suggested that the "birth trauma" is never overcome, even when individuals reach the age of maturity (roughly 21+). It's clear that most adults fail to come to terms with the fact of "having been born." Birthing is painful for all parties and while often celebrated it's actually viewed by many, mostly subconsciously, as a misfortune. This is evident when young people around the age of 15 say things like "I wish I had never been born" or, a variation, "I never asked to be born." It should be clear to anyone that the "bunker" is symbolically a return to the "womb." The bunker represents self-contained and undisturbed existence where there is no anxiety and no apprehension. We can say that being an adult in our society means an acceptance of risk, anxiety, and living with vulnerability. As I understand the situation, there are basically two options given our common predicament: retreat or surrender. Retreat is the avenue known as "psychosis." This is a rejection of reality and a preference for one's own wishes and desires. Or there is another option. This option I call "love"- love in the sense of self-surrender, sacrifice, ridding oneself of one's self and living for others. Through acts of self-sacrifice we realize why we were created in the first place: to share the love that God has for all of us. Thank you.

[@wizzardofpaws2420]

I watched the EWU channel on this. I was blown away. He started building this bunker 8 whole years before this happened. This guy had it all, yet whined that he had nothing. He had money in the bank, a loving wife, and a good daughter. and a nice home. I wonder what his friends and coworkers said about him.

[@strangerdaysss]

that "Peter Piper" reference though. i appreciate your humor doc.

[@greenbrain8725]

If he was a Narcissist, then it was a “vulnerable” one. He described himself as ugly, soulless, boring, and a loser.. certainly not a grandiose one. Unless I’m missing something. Also, his incompetence at staying hidden was a sign of depression and not giving a fig about what happened to him. Not very narcissistic.

[@christopherleah7253]

I saw the video on ewu the other day , disturbing

[@MrAwning]

I can't help but ponder, did Peter prep any pickled peppers and protect them from being pilfered. On a serious note, why do these guys feel the need to have families and just eliminate them when they become inconvenient? RIP his wife and daughter.

[@mariavaldez7147]

Always great content in a concise manner we can understand. Someday could you analyze Claudine Longet the ex wife of Andy Williams. I don't feel anybody has reported on it factually.

[@robertgiles9124]

She murdered her BF and her ex, ANDY WILLIAMS, paid for the Lawyer. The rich are sometime able to get off.

[@geraldfriend256]

Never knew she remarried, let alone to Paul” Rainbow Connection”

[@mariavaldez7147]

​@@caddieohm7059 thank you

[@ericdoe2318]

10:56 he had a family and cool ass bunker😢😢😢