Presonus Studio One 7 : Excited... but what's with the price?

[@wdkbeats]

Agreed on all points! Been using Studio One since V2, looking forward to seeing what's new and then deciding if it's worth the upgrade price. For now V6.6.2 has everything I need for professional work.

[@bigstewdio]

Still watching your video but before you've even finished I'm going to say it's a total kick in the teeth for Pro 6 users (like myself). Apparently my license is worth $50. wtf?! And also it's now $150 for a year of updates. Used to be 2 or 3 years. 🙄

[@DariuszBlasi]

The prices are very good - but the transistion from 6 to 7 for the current owners in not too good.

[@jesusislord1634]

Are any of you finding the bug where audio tracks drop out and come back when you stop the song and restart it? I hope they fix this bug. It's SUPER annoying!

[@Guitary007]

Same here since V5.5. For me, it happens specifically when there's a large number of audio files in my song.

[@jesusislord1634]

​@@Guitary007 Yes! When the track count ids hi mostly. I wish they would fix this!

[@mixedbypaygez]

Been using Studio One for years i don't plan on changing no time soon! Very powerful, professional and user friendly! Can't wait to see what version 7 has in store 💯

[@iamquaret]

I'm going to be real: I pay yearly for Studio One+. Now I ordered the HD2, which comes with a year of Studio One+. After going back and forth with them, they said that when my current subscription expires, the Studio One+ that comes with the HD2 will kick in, which would cover me until 2026. But with this, I'm completely lost. I feel screwed.

[@RareMaestro]

To be honest, I don't see the part where you got screwed?

[@iamquaret]

@@RareMaestro i already have studio one plus which expires July of next year. i bought an HD2 which comes with a year of studio one + which would mean July 2026. is the next time i would have to pay.

[@TheOneMonk]

Not sure where the problem is….

[@traezaX1]

I bought FL studio 12 ...now ive got the latest and greatest DAW for free...Nothing beats lifetime free updates 😂😂😂🥳✨✨✨

[@MrSupercracker1]

Yet it's not studio one so why are you here?

[@traezaX1]

@@MrSupercracker1 coz I love studio one too... 😂😂😂

[@Mutatedchromosomes333]

Yeah but your stock sounds are trash that’s why it’s free 😂. Your plugins for mixing are too.

[@traezaX1]

@@Mutatedchromosomes333 Yeah Abletons stocks are so amazing they sell em... Empty bottles make the most noise...😂😂😂Name a DAW with better stock resonance suppressor like Soothe 2...or better VST than Omni sphere...I'll wait

[@jrhager84]

No. Not upgrading. This is the precursor to sub. I can feel it. It's a slap in the face to everyone who just bought S6 Pro, or has paid for years. It doesn't foster a sense of faith or good will with the community. I'll just stick to 6 and see how it goes.

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

I'm still on Studio One Pro 5. I've never had to pay for a Logic Pro update ever, Ever!

[@YashOnTheBeat]

Was the transition from Logic 10 to 11 free? If you're happy with the new updates at the end of its release cycle then no need to buy V8 unless it has something that really intrigues you. I must say that I'm a little disappointed about the update price for long term users.

[@gabzerzerzer]

@@YashOnTheBeat Yep the transition from logic 10 to 11 is free

[@YashOnTheBeat]

@@gabzerzerzer is it a one time payment like FL Studio now? That's amazing.

[@gabzerzerzer]

@@YashOnTheBeat Yes you pay Logic pro X and you have it. that has been since 2013

[@NoQualmsTheArtist]

@@YashOnTheBeat yes it was free

[@VinnyLePes]

So if prices go up, it’s bad because it costs more money, and if prices go down, it’s a slap in the face to those who used to pay more? Not sure anything would please someone with that perspective. It sounds like people will be unhappy no matter what they do with prices.

[@JoeSteelOfficial]

It's not that hard to understand, you just don't want to.

[@VinnyLePes]

@@JoeSteelOfficial what a rude reply. There is a difference between not understanding and disagreeing.

[@RareMaestro]

​@@JoeSteelOfficial So a company that needs to stay competitive needs to just keep doing what they are doing to keep old/existing customers from not feeling ripped off if they decide to change their pricing to remain competitive.... YEAH, that makes perfect sense. Have you even noticed what is going on in the music industry, when have you EVER seen for instance UAD offering their plugins for the prices that they are going for right now and not even talking about going native. The companies are struggling because the market is saturated and those who don't adapt.... DIE

[@huberttorzewski]

First upgrade to version 7 for Studio One 6 Pro users should be free or 49usd and everyone would be happy. Simple as that. No one would feel ripped off then

[@JoeSteelOfficial]

@@VinnyLePes It's not rude just because you don't like it.

[@MaxMuccini]

I'm disappointed too, normal price for non users but if you got a previous Studio one you have to get an affordable price. 149,99 $ too too much!

[@Tendee]

That's interesting; I find the GUI much more intuitive and user friendly than ableton or reaper, (or even garageband).

[@theopacalypse]

Me too I love the interface

[@djayboogaloo]

I agree 100% I don’t think it’s fair that Studio one users that’s been there from day. One has to pay an annual fee of $179 a year when it’s cheaper just to pay for the updates every however many years it takes for them to bring out the next new version, and even though they give us all the bells and whistles, but for almost $200 per year is a bit much

[@JoeyFTL]

I can see how they're trying to spin it as being basically the same as before ("you'd spend $400 every two years on a new version anyhow"), but I fear this is a first in a series of missteps

[@piet245]

It doesn't always have to be the latest version. What else could possibly come out that is worth so much money?

[@_thaaatguy]

They're more corporate focused. Its obvious as they we bought by Fender...

[@Mutatedchromosomes333]

Oh boy now it’s going to become a guitar program huh? If that happens I’m leaving it behind. It’s great for hip hop and trap. Sampling etc.

[@joeyf808]

I agree 💯, my issue with studio one is always been the optimization, too CPU intensive, audio dropouts & etc. there are always claims that it’s been addressed, but from my experience they have not.

[@TheReal5lim8uggy]

Everyone who bought in the last 6 months should get a free upgrade.

[@nsp932]

@@Tyrell_Corp2019no he doesn’t. They literally said anyone who purchased it on or after August 21st gets it free.

[@avamomoh]

you know you can change the colours on studio one right?

[@grooveballoon2844]

No matter what is announced by whom and how. Everyone always complains about the price. Boring. But it gets even better: you also complain when new users will get it cheaper than you did. It's sad that people are like that.

[@jesusislord1634]

Yes! When the track count is hi mostly. I wish they would fix this!

[@DadRockAndGuitars]

Haven't seen the announcement yet, but will go watch to see what's new. Studio One is by far my favorite DAW, but I've been on Artist for a long time so having a Pro only option that costs more doesn't appeal to me. Artist does everything I need and I'm pretty sure that upgrade was only $99 every couple of years. The annual renewal for updates is very Pro Tools-ish. (One reason I left Pro Tools for Studio One.) The increased cost isn't going to ruin my finances, but I'm not convinced that it's really going to benefit me in any significant way either. I'm sure they are looking at how to increase revenue/save costs just like all of us are.

[@billyolsson3340]

it's funny that it's already leaked and cracked yesterday XD But it's not out officially.. ;O

[@Illiyinmusic]

Still cheaper than upgrading Ableton suite. I still have studio one 6, but I'm not upset about switching DAWS at all. Ableton is quick as hell in every step of composing, mixing, mastering. Can use thomann music to work around the upgrade price. Just switch over to the good side lol. Plus max4live devices like volume buddy.. putting it at the end of your chain adjust the entire chain so all the levels stay the same through each plug-in automatically

[@theopacalypse]

I'm faster on studio one

[@Lychegsye-nc6td]

Pro users, who paid more in the past, have to pay the same amount as Artist users. what a joke 😂😂

[@DadRockAndGuitars]

As an Artist user, I'll have to pay more when all I need is Artist. So some of us aren't excited either. lol

[@Feerlyss]

@@DadRockAndGuitars yeah but you didn't shell out 399 like the pro users did. this is a HUGE slap in the face

[@XenobraneStudios]

Studio One Newb that just impulsively crossgraded for $150 here. We're all on the same boat now 🫡

[@bigghopestudios]

true that, everything else looks fine so far but this. this sucks man, this sucks. as a pro user this sucks @PreSonus Audio Electronics

[@LuizMartan]

@@XenobraneStudios Like me, i dont believe that this is correctly! I think that the Presonus when did the $150 bucks promotion deceived us all!

[@michail_777]

If you can use the program without updates, you can buy an update every 5 years. The point is different, whether the user will be obliged to buy updates annually otherwise the program will simply not work. But as I understand it is possible to buy once the program and constantly use, and update to buy as needed. Sometimes some updates are not worth 10-20 dollars, so you should not buy such an update. Or will upgrading from version 6 to version 10 become more expensive than upgrading from 6 to 7?

[@morganbryan8045]

*Shocking* new pricing model! I love the software but will definitely look for an alternative. What was going through their heads? 1 year for £149 is basically Subscription lite! I smell Fender all over this

[@Mutatedchromosomes333]

Thankfully I know how to use studio one, fl studio, protools, and logic. Studio one is my favorite then protools. Fl studio I grew out of and at the time propellerhead reason had better sounds for beats.

[@VietKaraoke8893]

The old version of S1 feels thin and not as full and powerful as on Pro Tools or Nuendo. I don't know if version 7 can improve that. If it can, it would be great.

[@djbon2648]

Still don't understand how to fix clicks in studio one 6 during exporting

[@Freddekaddeth]

Would be nice if Studio One offer amp profiling own amps.

[@RomellAlaman]

yeap, the UI looks "unfinished" and the colors are washed not in a good way.

[@caopgtr]

我从studio one 2 free开始接触这个daw 当时也是初次学习音乐制作 因为说明书后面的菜谱 觉得这家公司很有爱 于是相继升级了4pro 6pro 乃至各种音频接口和监听音箱 我只使用其中一部分功能 但要频繁为自己根本用不上的3d环绕声 各种循环付费 加上永远连不上网的soundcloud 关闭卡死问题 所以最近我在研究其他daw

[@tonyrapa-tonyrapa]

As far as I'm concerned Studio one has the best interface.

[@Bonzvy]

A long time studio one user here and unfortunatly i did not upgraded to s1 v.6 because the features doesnt conviced me. i dont know how i should feel about this - i kinda happy but also disappointed if we look at something like fl studio - you purchase one license and get unlimited updates? Dude that is amazing but fl just sucks for me (i used fl for several years)

[@frequency_sequencer]

It's my favourite daw which I could never use because it kept crashing on me

[@Nuku01]

I been a Studio One Pro user since 2013 and now they have slap the sh*t out of me; Fender is killing Studio one slowly... i''m glad that I were force to learn how to used other DAW and not relay on S1 for my daily production work..

[@caopgtr]

我从studio one 2开始使用 最近也在研究其他替代DAW

[@xoffworld]

Is S1 project files backwards compatible like pro tools??

[@antoniobaronio9029]

As far as I remember no....

[@xoffworld]

@@antoniobaronio9029 this will be a problem when collaborating if persons are stuck on old version, but myb v7 will be backwards compatible 🤷

[@sickmessiah]

Been a user since v3 .. Tryed v1 artist and said meh ... Anyhow I love s1 .. However I want to be able to link plugin parameters like in group options in pro tools .. I miss that for stereo dubbed guitar sims .. I miss dialing in both guitars tone quickly in the wide stereo field ... Also with atmos mixing with side chained compressors to get a 2bus effect dialed in that works for atmos its very much needed as a quicker workflow ..

[@rich.cresswell]

Studio One Pro = Perpetual Studio One Pro+ = Annual or Monthly Annual Subscription = you keep the perpetual license (lose the + benefits only if you choose not to do another year) Monthly Subscription = Pay each month for everything but lose everything when you don't renew (Ideal for folks that only need to use it at times they need or those on a budget)

[@D76-z2h]

Feel very uneasy about it myself as the recent releases have tended to be short changed on the core DAW functionality whilst focusing on attracting other user-groups to the product. So really the old price bought us value that would be repaid in stages over the few years between upgrades. So they need to prove to us established users that paying what it a much higher price overall, is actually worth it. For me the Lukas add-on was good as it directly addressed shortfalls in the core product and Presonus need to do far more of that within these subscriptions to entice me to pay the $149 more than every other year at most. You only need to sit down with SO for a few days to realise where easy and significant upgrades are needed to the core product. But rather than addressed in what should have been V2, completely ignored. So in making this move SO have set a very high bar for themselves as that extra fee could be better spent on another DAW.

[@Metalpazallteway]

I like it but I need the interface to be more poppy, 3d or 4d

[@toddwmac]

Been a S1 fan boy since 2.x and had every version since then, This transistion to S1Pro for existing or long time users feels almost...insulting. We were chuckled at for years as Studio One users. I finaly gave up on S1 last year and dove into the Live world. It was refreshing having a creator centered DAW for a change. I still think S1 is top tier for recording, mixing, etc and their UI and Macro functionality is 2nd to none. However, the creator is second tier with almost nothing in that area for years.. 7 looks hopefull, but we will wait to see what the annual fee actually gets you. I'm sure the 150 and 200 won't last as the FenderSonus bean counters will be sure of that.

[@havemoney]

I like it, but piano roll has long needed graphical improvements

[@2probeats]

On the visual side of things I fee there’s alot of room for improvements

[@kenlemery2633]

Ummm...just curious. I'm a pro-user, and when I didn't have the subscription, I always paid for the upgrade. So I guess I'm not sure how people are getting kicked in the teeth. As for the subscription, it works for me. Just a couple less cups of coffee.

[@premeditatedplan5417]

Hey man, I enjoyed your video and your perspective but just a small correction. First though, to be clear I do no work for Presonus but I am a well known user within the S1 Community. You indicated that major releases where several years apart. This is incorrect. In the past releases have been roughly 18 months plus or minus a few. Each major release had between 4 to 5 minor releases. These releases contained bug fixes and often, new features. This new model is compressing that timeline of major releases if we go by number of minor-releases. Putting 4 scheduled releases into 12 months means a more reactive and consistent response to the customer base. So why has this perhaps happened? Well if you scaled your development environment because you had the financial ability to do so, due to subscription and Fender income then nudge nudge wink wink as Python said. Now does that mean you are paying more over a shorter period of time, well yes if you want to look at that way. In reality just pay the upgrade when a bug that impacts you or a feature you want comes out. There is no time limit. Wait a few years if you want. After all it's a choice. One that you can make every quarter if you want! Cheers a new subscriber.

[@VinnyLePes]

I don’t understand the frustration of getting updates for a year vs. two. If you are only upgrading every few years, you are already only getting new features when you shell out for an upgrade. So you can still wait a couple years and upgrade for $149. How is this any more expensive for people who don’t upgrade every year? And I’m speaking perpetual license here. Subscription users pay every year either way (or monthly).

[@RP14_Music]

with this logic i wouldnt have gotten my atmos features update that came with 6.5 i would have had to fork out for another year. 150 gave use all the updates and features for that version number which standard lifetime was 2 years. so inorder to stay up to date we are paying double.

[@VinnyLePes]

@@RP14_Music I see your point.

[@stephenr2434]

@@RP14_Music That upgrade meant nothing to me since I'm not a bit interested in Atmos, so I would have skipped it.

[@RP14_Music]

@@stephenr2434 it was an example...

[@hjorte.]

If you criticize a GUI, you have to be specific for it to be constructive. "something is off", "no slick or premium feel" doesn't cut it. Perhaps worth a separate video.

[@eddiexx]

the gui is mediocre, nothing too hard to grasp really, coming from a until recently long time loyal S1 user who will most probably not pay for any more updates stay put and if needed migrate to something else

[@theopacalypse]

Studio one's gui is beautiful, I wonder what he was talking about and what exactly he meant by premium too.

[@LFiers]

​@@theopacalypseAgreed. I don't get what me means.

[@richrich8487]

Really disappoint that Presonus keeps focusing those who make beats and use visual instruments. How about us who play, record, and mix real instruments. Not saying any wrong with making beats or using virtual instruments but some of us focus on playing, recording, and mixing our own instruments.

[@Russplight]

I agree with you on S1 GUI not looking premium. I've been saying this for years. Also the sonics are really flat and dull. However, I still believe it's still the best DAW on the market.

[@frankwalders]

I think you pay for a year feature updates, after that you'll still receive bug fixes

[@DadRockAndGuitars]

That's one thing I wasn't completely clear on. There are plenty of times I don't need feature updates, but bug fixes might be different.

[@frankwalders]

​@@DadRockAndGuitars I'm not 100% certain about it either, but the deal was that if you bought a year of subscription, you could keep Studio One. They said you would keep, for example, the 6.6.0 updates, meaning the second-digit updates. 6.6.1 6.6.2 etc.

[@brucekai7462]

Only person I've heard talk about the GUI and how it looks washed... doesn't feel premium at all... Spot on.

[@theopacalypse]

Can't be true, I love studio one for it's look.

[@stephenr2434]

@@theopacalypse I know right? Studio One is one of the best looking DAWs on the market.

[@huberttorzewski]

Look at the Reaper GUI lmao. Studio One looks great in comparison

[@gtk_NO]

As a pro owner I really dislike the pricing change to yearly. I might as well go pro tools then for a better look and proper mac support if im gonna be stuck in yearly anyway.

[@rahulborkar1942]

At least fruity loops is open about not handling 3rd party plugins well. Presonus studio one just blames it on the plugin companies, even though I don't have issues in other daws. Also, bug fixes just seem not not get fixed quite often, and now with the pressure on to update quarterly,, I feel ike bug issued will be even more of an issue. I also really hope this is optimized for use of efficiency cores, or I am out.

[@ZndBornMixedIt]

💯💯💯

[@eranddroory9987]

I ditched Studio one a long time ago. The fact that they couldn't and guaranteed still don't have scroll in background (as all the other daws) is unbelievable! The upgrade prices are mad! I went with Reaper after being on PT, Cubase and Studio One for a huge number of years. It costs a fraction and have more features and performs better (CPU optimization).

[@gabrielcarvajal5801]

150 a year for updates is just a way to make us all subscription based @12,50 per month, good thing is we get upgrades every 3 months….. we’ll see 🙄

[@wildmilne]

They corner the market in hate for the people that buy the upgrade and every year

[@T-BOUNCING]

Handsome man that's nice

[@no.1studiobox50]

Fl studio Life time update 😂

[@jcmedo15]

150 for an upgrade and 200 for new users thats not ok

[@petershute3580]

Since fender took over, like Aurisonics,gone downhill 😢

[@negan3112]

You have been Fenderized

[@billy1cee2]

Kick in the teeth is right . The price is great for everyone else , but what about us the Pro users we get nothing , it should be free for us . I spent good money on studio one for years. Really PRESONUS this SUCKS.

[@musicstudioml]

I have to disappoint you. Visually, almost nothing has changed. Only the section with the audio and MIDI tracks has been rounded off. The rest is practically unchanged. Studio One 7 has already leaked on torrent.

[@VLADINONEXOKUDELA]

yes, I already have it installed🙂

[@musicstudioml]

​@@VLADINONEXOKUDELA Try before a buy 🤭

[@teqnotic]

Pricing is ridicolous. Apparrently PreSonus is forcing users to pay $150 each year to stay updated. Who asked for this? I sure didn't. They should have left it the way it was!

[@panagope]

From last year , cubase is at the top. Better vst, library, sampler, browser, modulators etc. that's why studio one is in alarm mode.

[@_hide_-lb1gk]

Nothing worth the update. Still on 5 pro and not moving up.

[@thomasmoxley4862]

Just a bit? Straight money grab. They will lose thousands of customers.

[@JoeyFTL]

4:13 this. Idc about any of the instruments, sounds, loops or any of that. Give me more features. Plugin instance upsampling for a start.

[@darkmaer]

Apparently, you’re not allowed to question you’re supposed to just consume and get excited for next product

[@iliravdyli4109]

Looks like we get a clip launcher. The UI looks the same nothing changed…

[@eddiexx]

in one year they will do sh*t. S1 is going a clear path straight to their final chapter. their focus is on all sorts of crap, ALL sorts of crap for the latest 2 years. instead of making a perfect daw which should be their aim. fckn cloud, sphere addons, subscriptions bla bla bla. they dont know what they are doing and it shows

[@eddiexx]

and let us all remember what they did on V5 the fckrs jumped straight from 5.2 to a new number JUST TO MILK US of money. when you start doing stuff like that you show you have lost the plot and have no decency or care for your brand anymore. as said, loved the app but they simply dont get it, you can live of making just the perfect daw and making people purchase a perpetual license, there is enough people coming into the scene to achive that BUT then you have to really work on perfection!! with dedication!!! not spending 80% of the time thinking of money making shortcuts that will only kill the relationship with its base and their goodwill.

[@MrSupercracker1]

All you peeps that are complaining. This is nothing compared to what Protools did. It's annoying but at least it still affordable.

[@WhoIsAlexElliott]

Saw this coming which is why I left last year.

[@DadRockAndGuitars]

Yeah, I recently noticed on some interfaces they weren't giving a license for Artist anymore. Just a 6 month subscription to Plus. I figured a change was coming. I still really like and use Studio One though. However, I've been playing around with LUNA quite a bit lately.

[@WhoIsAlexElliott]

@@DadRockAndGuitars yeah it’s sad. I think S1 was great but if I support this stuff then I’m also part of the problem so had to leave

[@thomasmoxley4862]

F*** Presonus. I am going back to Mixbus and Fl.

[@Aharshreality9281]

Sounds like Diddy owns fender because wow👎🏽 👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽

[@nicolasmartz3793]

really! is the guy who concocted this new scale stupid or does he not care about the users of the pro version who paid 399€ for their license?

[@derrickchapman7283]

I won't be supporting studioone anymore I've been there since day one

[@georgemoore8577]

Really? Wow.... Disrespectful? What you said was disrespectful. Smdh!!

[@phadrus]

Reaper is the solution.

[@marekvoosen]

I think they like the people to subscribe and not to buy the perpetual license. The perpetual license is outrageous. As a Reaper user I pay 70$ for a license which works for years (round about 4/5 years) and I get updates every month, new features as bugfixes. I have no trust in great S7 updates, why should it be better than yet? You will get faster updates, but if it will mostly be bugfixing, that's not great.

[@VinnyLePes]

I disagree about bug fixing. Subscription models often incentivize shiny new features, and companies that adopt them often let bugs go for years without fixing them because they need to work on perception of value by having constant new features. This sucks for people who support them for years with the idea that they are newer in the market and will fix everything in time. Adobe comes to mind, there are bugs that have been around for years that keep getting ignored so they can roll out new features to justify their subscription model.