How much of Banjo Kazooie can you beat without Kazooie?

I challenged myself to see how much of Banjo Kazooie I could beat without Kazooie. While there's no doubt Banjo is pretty useless without Kazooie, I utilize a game changing glitch and pull off some tricks to collect more Jiggies than you probably would think.

[@MapleLunii]

That skip into Rusty Bucket Bay sounds like something a kid would have made up on the playground back in the day lmao

[@octoguygmod]

"If you-you uh- press the start button six times when Banjo plays his uh- guitar, you-uh- go to the boat level!"

[@ferociousfeind8538]

​@octoguygmod "he falls off the stage in the cutscene! And- and then you start the game WITHOUT A SAVE FILE and Banjo is dead! Because you killed him!"

[@NYKevin100]

Funnily enough, this is pretty much the same glitch as the infamous Back In Time from three separate Zelda titles.

[@ferociousfeind8538]

@NYKevin100 you're totally right, info leaking from a demo on the title screen into actual gsmeplay due to improper sanitization

[@Darcnova1]

To be fair, a lot of speedrunning tech does :P

[@Ariamaki]

"But what if we said fuck Kazooie?" The internet knows. The internet says it a lot.

[@pressaTD]

But KZbin doesn’t like the word

[@lovegalaxyfn]

I would 😫

[@lovegalaxyfn]

I’m joking

[@jayeldee2009]

Oof, yeah. 770 as of commenting.

[@ShadwSonic]

The windows don't need eggs to break! Heck, I didn't even know eggs would work! What's intended is that you use the Rat-a-tat Rap or Beak Barge! Which... are both moves using Kazooie. So that doesn't change the results in the slightest.

[@pressaTD]

Ahh yeah I don’t know why I even said that, I think because I knew Rat-a-tat and beak barge were off the table and when doing the challenge thought Banjo shitted out eggs lol

[@SpringyTwist]

Who cares? He's already using the KAZOOIE ground pound so what's even the point of rules?? Just do whatever you want!

[@SpringyTwist]

@@pressaTDKazooie literally throws her ass in the air when you fire eggs....and it's EGGS. Like, the things birds make?? Something tells me you don't actually know shit about this game.

[@WyattMC]

@@SpringyTwist It's literally a self-imposed challenge. That's the whole point of the video, dog. You've got fuckin bozo brain.

[@weirdosheep619]

there's probably some super technical shenanigans that would let you roll or punch off the ledge and into the window's (surprisingly generous) hitbox. ...probably.

[@emilydonegan3208]

I’d be totally down to see like, a minimum Kazooie run

[@pressaTD]

I think this needs to happen as well

[@collinpersinger4809]

Is this about to be a new A button challenge? We already got SM64, so I wouldn't mind seeing this game pushed to the limit too.

[@WTheW564]

​@@collinpersinger4809Before you know it, we'll be talking about Banjo going to parallel universes 😂

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

Hearing "Jingo" instead of "Jinjo" bugs me a bit. I mean, they even say it.

[@AndrewLarsson]

I've never heard the Jinjos called Jingos. Kinda fun way to say it.

[@pressaTD]

Lol oops

[@raydaypinball]

I always assumed he said it that way on purpose to tilt banjo fans into oblivion

[@Phillylove100]

They literally say their name every time you collect one.

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

It reminds me of Jiggies!

[@mrhalfsaid1389]

​@@raydaypinballsame

[@guysir1130]

I'm kinda curious now if the reverse challenge would be possible. Since it seems a lot more like Kazooie is doing the work, rather than Banjo. I guess that would mean...no moving, and no basic jumps, and no rolls? Kazooie flies, shoots eggs, you can move with the trot and swim with her, really it seems more like this should be called Kazooie-Banjo...

[@YEs69th420]

The big problem would be not being able to use transformations

[@ItsLux1211]

That may actually be possible if you use the glitch at the beginning to skip straight to rusty taller trot would already be unlocked as a movement option and would skip having to go through the otherwise impossible spiral mounting and most of rusty should be possible (Except maybe saving snorkel due to swimming being very banjo heavy) and from there most of the game should be very doable just far harder due to a lack of a ability to be precise with tough jumps

[@8Kazuja8]

Tbh this run is already kind of teethering on being so arbitrary that it isn't really interesting. Kazooie seems even more arbitrary because you need Banjo to reach any of Kazooie's moves in the first place, and even then Banjo is also part of various misc. animations. The most generous interpretation of a Kazooie-only challenge would basically just be normal gameplay except you Talon Trot everywhere.

[@GusThugShakerKong]

STOP CALLING THEM "JINGOS" IT'S JINJOS😭😭😭

[@pressaTD]

I’m sorry!!

[@DrakeoGames]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@PastorAndrewScott]

I cringed every time. 😂

[@crocworks]

I wonder if there could be some kind of mod that puts the separate Banjo or Kazooie from when they split up in Banjo-Tooie as the only playable character in this game (or the next one). But I distinctly remember in Tooie that the roll has Kazooie wrap her wings around Banjo, so that's no longer a solo-Banjo move.

[@edfreak9001]

while i can't speak to any specific experience I imagine backporting moves from tooie would be a massive undertaking, plus it'd be even harder in this version of the game most likely rather than the already somewhat explored N64 version.

[@CesarTorres61296]

I don't know if it's possible, but Solo Banjo might be possible to implement into Banjo-Kazooie...?

[@SpringyTwist]

I don't think there's a single move that doesn't involve Kazooie when the two are together in Tooie

[@leonardohidalgo5127]

First step: cheating. Second step: using kazooie by mistake. Third: use kazooie three more times but give a different excuse each time.

[@entropy-cat]

Wait when did they cheat?

[@nikolaast]

@@entropy-cat I think they're reffering to starting from Rusty Bucket Bay rather than the actual starting point of the game

[@entropy-cat]

@@nikolaast Ah, I see. That's more of an exploit than a cheat.

[@matthewseaholm4634]

Yes he’s exploiting and therefore cheating his dumb run making this video pointless

[@damiencouturee6240]

Wait wait no, I gotta see what happens when Grunty deletes your save when you dont even have a save. It might just be nothing but damn Im curious now lol. Cause I think those demo files use hidden saves or something like that, like file 0 or someething. It would be interesting and probably just crash tthee game lol

[@pressaTD]

Lol I’m pretty curious as well, but wasn’t curious enough to ruin my progress. I’ll have to check it out and make a short of it perhaps

[@damiencouturee6240]

@@pressaTD You definitely should if it's not too much trouble! Love the channel so I'll be watching whatever you upload regardless lol

[@WTheW564]

Banjo-Tooie loads

[@bradye21playsIndieHorror]

It unlocks Luigi

[@MushKinPuff]

9:29 CAPTAIN BLUBBER FOUND THE ONE PIECE?!

[@royalrick1]

CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER

[@viridisspielt]

This is the best timeline right there.

[@masterchiefkenobi4821]

it's allways a pleasure to see Banjo-Kazooie anywhere

[@zeaferjones1404]

That is how I played the game which is much harder. When I watch people online use Kazooie to walk around like 90% of the time I realized I played the game wrong.

[@pressaTD]

Lol yeah the talon trot is the only way to get around

[@MintyArisato]

I’m right there with you buddy. I find myself walking as banjo more often in the first game (when not around inclines) to be more precise and talon trot much more in the second cause it’s so HUGE

[@coleminer8847]

The title of this game is now Banjo-

[@timj3788]

"If done successfully, this will happen: AD"

[@pressaTD]

Lol ugh I’m sorry KZbin told me they would put ads at natural moments!

[@ferociousfeind8538]

Augh, of course youtube would say that

[@jiggylookback]

Interesting. I'd also be curious to see what else can be done. I have a feeling Banjo can get more.

[@pressaTD]

I have the same feeling

[@DarkGruntMusic]

That was a fun challenge, good job on the video!

[@pressaTD]

Thank you!

[@jbr1537]

I freaking love this channel coming up. The videos over the past few months have been awesome. Keep it up.

[@pressaTD]

Thank you!

[@zachdanz]

I love your Pikmin stuff but glad you're spreading into other games too!

[@pressaTD]

It’s all about balance!

[@ThePileatedSnagret.]

Sup, I been watching for a few months now. Your content is very good quality. It''s fun to watch, And i don't get bored watching it. Keep up the good work, I see the both of you making it big with this youtube channel. (Yes, For anyone wondering. There are 2 people who run this channel.)

[@alejandroenriqueyanesaparc6796]

My favorite game, Banjo and *ALMOST* Kazooie

[@pressaTD]

The title of my memoir

[@GelatinCoffee]

My first thought when seeing this was "oh, he's gonna use that bee transformation anywhere glitch to have access to every place" it's been forever since I watched anything banjo kazooie related so I got no clue if that'd require kazooie though. Also I don't know why but I feel like banjo had more moves than that 🤔

[@pressaTD]

If I could reach Click Clock Wood I would have tried to utilize that glitch as well. And yeah I also didn’t realize how little Banjo could do alone lol. In Tooie he can do a lot more so maybe that’s what you’re thinking

[@sweet5754]

@@pressaTD You could reach click clock wood through the puzzle mini game but it's really hard to do and requires you to turn off your internet and having the gameplay in the puzzle go off sync and having banjo die in the minigame to respawn at click clock wood, even then though, you'd still not be able to beat the game

[@rossbolin1023]

Banjo Kazooie is my favorite game. Great to see content coming out in 2024

[@FlapHedge]

They are called JINJO like Banjo Gin-JOE

[@bradsly3386]

Liked and subsribed to you. Love these videos!

[@MarioMastar]

Kind of feel like you threw in the towel WAY too early for this video... it's a really interesting question and I'm sure there are a lot of jiggies you can get if you could access the other worlds. I expected this to be a "minimum Kazooie" challenge where you'd just manually count every time you use Kazooie, with prioritizing minimizing Kazooie usage (so you'd only go back to get a jiggy you missed if you NEEDED a Kazooie required jiggy to get to the next world). Routing would be a bit of a challenge, but would probably spark community interest more. Sadly this came out more as a "I tried this challenge, couldn't figure out the rules, messed up several times, and kind of gave up." despite opening with the quesiton "No Kazooie was out of the question, but how much do you need her" implying it's a minimum use run... Sorry, just being honest, good effort, but giving up like this isn't worth the like. Also, I kind of disagree the backflip jump is "Kazooie", Banjo is using his legs to leap in the air from a crouching position. I guess you could say that Kazooie is using her wings to help propel him higher than his regular jump, but you let the Dive and for a long while the Ground pound slide with an excuse that "Banjo's doing all the work" and admitted several times you thought as a kid Banjo was pooping the eggs out even towards the end of the video. So just a tip since you're fairly new at this... you may want to try to put in more effort and if you fail like this, just scrap the video. Better to give us a full hearted attempt that tried everything (even if you admit a skill cap), or just upload something else entirely, than upload something where you can't seem to agree on your own rules and give up cause of that. Best of luck in the future. You have potential. Just push yourself harder and you'll be among the greats like DPad gaming, Seer, Particular Mushroom, and other "minimalist challenge" runners in time! Some suggestions of great challenge runners who made darn sure they gave us something to watch for an hour. XD

[@pressaTD]

Appreciate the constructive feedback and kind words! I understand where you’re coming from. I don’t want the video to come off as little effort, because I definitely did put in a lot of effort making this video and trying to find ways around not having to use Kazooie. I just wanted to do a run where Kazooie couldn’t be used at all, but I agree I should have done more and just kept the use of Kazooie very minimal. But as you said still pretty new and all I can do is continue to learn and make better videos. Thanks again!

[@ShursGarden]

"There's a glitch that makes you start in Rusty Bucket Bay." Oh yeah, that's fine. Just. Glitch your way in to LITERAL HELL to avoid having to use the bird friend.

[@pressaTD]

Haha I know but on the bright side you get the worst level out of the way first

[@shrym9621]

Itd be cool to see Banjo Tooie with only kazooie or something similar. This is a really cool challenge run!

[@pressaTD]

Thank you! A banjo tooie challenge is in the plans!

[@AryaPlus]

"Haha, if you cheat too much, I'll delete your save" "My save has been deleted for a long time"

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

Man, it's only been a few years, but I already forgot how big these worlds are.

[@ZakMcallister]

You should do this with all worlds, not worrying about the obstacles to getting to the worlds themselves so you can test every possible jiggy

[@389OpiE]

When it comes to Mumbo's mountain and returning I remember a glitch back in the day where you can leave the transformation range of the bee transformation and go wherever Also for returning from Freezeezy peek I thought that the Walrus transformation let you go up steep slopes though I haven't played for a long time

[@389OpiE]

Stop calling the Jingos that

[@pressaTD]

Yeah but you don’t turn into the bee until Click Clock Wood. And good call on the Walrus, can definitely get out of Freezeezy that way

[@vineheart01]

yeah for some reason in banjokazooie ALL the abilities are kazooie focused. All banjo does is jump and punch, which nobody every uses since the punch is terrible lol

[@pressaTD]

Haha yeah he’s truly useless on his own

[@meko750]

I do love how accurate the thumbnail is. It’s not a lot, but it certainly is more than I expected, thought Banjo would be completely useless. 😂

[@Zel-Veraan]

In actuality, you got zero of the Jiggies without Kazooie. All because she pops out of the backpack to store the Jiggy. . . That dang bird. Also, they're called "Jinjos" not "Jingos"!

[@_Tzer]

6:35 so banjo tooie's roll is 500% valid by that logic

[@dissonanceparadiddle]

Oh boy this is going to be a blast theoretically when you do banjo-Tooie you should I believe be able to hack banjo from the beginning to be by himself

[@pressaTD]

That would be cool! I’m just recently learning about this hack

[@gamesbygodwai5048]

Collect all 5 Djangos Unchained

[@Sandata64RD]

Now i want to make a horror game of kazooie stuffing someone into a smaller metal backpack. Also neat video.

[@liamfunnyman6965]

This is why I always insist on including Kazooie when referring to the duo in Smash.

[@MiTxGam3r]

Treasure trove cove sound track definitely still slaps

[@yomama9390]

jingoistic playthrough

[@RipVanFish09]

This’ll be interesting.

[@PhirenFayt]

found this channel through my man Lemon, good shit

[@Monkey-D-Luffy875]

Great job. 11 jiggys is more then I woulda thought.

[@pressaTD]

Thank you!

[@sterlingcampbell2116]

Lots of exceptions to no kazooie thing. Reasonable ones, though. Love this game

[@nikolaast]

No The ground pound move is literallty Kazooies move, Its named Beak Buster, Bottles Describes it as her move when teaching it to you, as something your doing with her body. Hes just objectively wrong.

[@weirdtyrant6274]

I wonder if this would go better in Banjo-Tootie

[@connorpoe]

say it like GIN-JOE

[@JossHenry]

I really enjoyed this challenge! Well done!

[@pressaTD]

Thank you!

[@user-ri6pp4nf9s]

The jinjo jiggy from mumbo’s mountain also needs beak buster

[@pressaTD]

Oh shit you’re right.. I guess that’s 10%

[@user-ri6pp4nf9s]

@@pressaTD You should do it for Banjo-Tooie, I bet you could do a lot more

[@HollandTHG]

Those are wonderful minor alliterations, ri6pp4nf9s. ❤

[@MrVelyx]

Lemon send me here, you made me stay

[@WTheW564]

Banjo walks around, carrying Kazooie. Kazooie does everything else 🤦

[@hardyjoe4278]

Kazooie was definitely the equivalent to Mario Sunshine's F.L.U.D.D.

[@pressaTD]

Love this comparison

[@Redhollow]

Would love to see a variation of this for Banjo Tooie (with a mod disabling the barriers ofc so you can truly go on a solo adventure). Banjo is surprisingly mobile without Kazooie when you know how to use him. His double jump in particular just feels like cheating.

[@phyllojoe5346]

I still enjoy a challenge video, even if you can only get 11 jiggies! It's more interesting than knowing for sure you will beat the game. Also those small colored things are pronounced jin-joes

[@pressaTD]

Appreciate it. Lol and I know I’m a horrible Banjo Kazooie fan. Next time I do a Banjo video I’ll make sure I pronounce Jinjo right

[@ls190v2]

I guess it's just Banjo now.

[@nikolaast]

@6:20 The Ground Pound move is literally called Beak Buster. Its explicitly Kazooies move. Bottles: "I call this move the Beak Buster, Jump into the air, Then Press Z To Send *Kazooie* Slamming down hard into the floor." Kazzoie:"Gulp...I dont like the sound of that Banjo" Bottles: "Get used to It nest girl, *You'll* Be using it alot" I can rationalize the swimming, but everything from 6:20 onward is invalid.

[@wolfetteplays8894]

I once tried the X button challenge in Banjo Kazooie. I played nearly a decade ago, but I can rememeber that I only needed to press the X button 4 times to get to Clanker's Cavern, as far as I remember. I am not sure if that could be lowered. I tried not using the triggers as well, but I did not get very far with that one so I gave up even faster.

[@pressaTD]

This is a fun challenge idea as well!

[@gracecollins6891]

Finally, Banjo-

[@nijucow]

"jingo" lol

[@cd31000]

Stupid bear, no care he gave. Price to wear, he cannot save.

[@prowler6435]

Maybe do a follow up where it is assumed that every world and every note door is open and accessible (so the slope in Grunty's Lair is ignored), so you could go world by world instead of the harsh limit. Just to open up more of the game and have a better challenge.

[@pressaTD]

Yeah I’m thinking I should have approached the idea as beating the game with using Kazooie as least as possible vs. not at all

[@heckssoda588]

It's so weird to me that Rare games often have a feature/glitch where you can cancel a middair attack with another jump when banjo, dkc, and dk64 have different dev teams.

[@InvaderTan1]

I left a comment earlier about using Kazooie to get underwater and seconds after carrying on watching your video, you mention excusing that exact mechanic ahaha Lesson learnt, don't leave a comment until you've watched the whole video XD Great video anyways. Never realised how much Banjo could do alone.

[@pressaTD]

Haha thank you! Appreciate the kind words. Was hoping Banjo could do more but still proud of his efforts

[@LoopyRick]

“Or 11%” 😂

[@-sk8-437]

at least half the game.

[@ChippyYYZ]

Could someone possibly make a romhack for banjo-kazooie where you play as just kazooie, a la tooie's split-up pads?

[@sabataexe101]

Thank you for being my adhd hyper fixation of the month

[@pressaTD]

Happy to help!

[@WillaGem]

lol didn't know banjo-kazooie had back in time

[@GovernmentFails]

Haven’t tested it on xbox but if grunty deletes your save it gets rid of all your collectibles and abilities

[@PrincipalSkinner3190]

Wow does the start glitch work on rare replay version?

[@pressaTD]

My understanding is the rare replay version is the same as the emulated Xbox 360 version so I want to say yes

[@jacobs.9661]

I haven't tried it myself, but Rare Replay uses the 360 version of BK so I'd assume it works.

[@SuperNobody64]

7:22 I'm sorry five what? Jin-jos my brother.

[@A13XLaircey]

It would be neat if there was a Tooie mod for Kazooie, then you could use the split pad, and try for a truly Kazooie-free run!

[@pressaTD]

This would be cool! Who knows, maybe there is already one out there. I’ll have to look into this

[@Synth_Dragon]

New video where you test if the codes actually erase a save or if it causes a new bug :D

[@Verlisify]

This dude rapid firing content

[@kid14346]

It helps that there are actually more than 1 dudes on the channel. I love how I didn't even realize that until they pointed it out in a video

[@Verlisify]

@@kid14346 lmao same but you pointing it out

[@pressaTD]

Lol we’ve been trying to make it more clear in recent videos that there’s two of us. We have some videos planned for the future where we are both in them

[@LancerkingNoel]

If you are always on kazooie running, you almost not need banjo

[@legionbeast]

"What if we said [BLEEP} Kazooie?" Artists: "Write that down! Write that down!" But seriously, this means that Kazooie is really the heavy lifter of the duo since it's her skills that are required for 89% of the game. I would have thought it would have been more of a 70/30 percentage split, but that neglects that the double jump and Talon Trot aren't just fun ways to move around faster, but is legitimately the only way to make it around some maps.

[@pressaTD]

Yeah I for sure thought Banjo could do a lot more on his own but pretty much every move involves Kazooie

[@TheXaviZone]

When I was a kid i’m pretty sure I activated the RBB glitch by accident. How? No idea, it just happened

[@syeddaahmed7460]

The game should be called Kazooie Banjo.

[@TCGPokemondude]

Play my banjo!

[@UlliNice]

Nice.

[@JamesTDG]

It may be fun to abuse a rom hack to try a kazooie only run

[@pressaTD]

Is there a rom hack like this that exists?

[@SeeYouInBluffington]

Gotta eq after vocal iso

[@parksyist]

Jingos.... Gobbys valley 🙈

[@Deadlock21]

Id be interested in how manny you can collect with banjo, while using kazooie where necessary. To unlock worlds and stuff but then dont use her. Like: i used her to go up the sand hills in gobis valley but didnt her for the flying carpet or somethinh like that.

[@pressaTD]

Yeah in retrospect that’s probably the approach I should have taken with the video, but I wanted to see how many Jiggies you could truly get without ever using Kazooie. But I think I’m going to do this again for Tooie and take this approach

[@MarushiaDark316]

Now for the inverse challenge - how much can you beat with just Kazooie? And by that, we'll say any time you walk or jump, it has to involve Kazooie somehow. So always Talon Trotting or fluttering or backflipping, no regular walking or slow swimming or climbing as these involve just Banjo without Kazooie. Should make narrow walkways and sneaking a lot harder. I'm guessing you can use the same intro glitch. If not, we'll count anything after skipping Bottles tutorial.

[@SpongeBobsTikiLand]

Now try doing it with only Kazooie

[@weirdosheep619]

so wait; if you press start to cycle through the attract mode levels, would it be possible to select CCW, steer banjo into the chinker, and kill him that way? does attract mode even have health?

[@MushKinPuff]

Omg You Have My Exact Same Taste In Games My Favorite Series Is Pikmin And My Favorite Single Game Is This One

[@TracksideProd758]

Fun Fact: you could have used multiple cheat codes as, for some unclear reason, the xbox version doesn't actually delete your save data. From the wiki: "Grunty's ability to erase your game pak doesn't appear to have the desired effect in the Xbox 360 version, as seen in a video on the subject in which the affected save file is still intact on the Xbox 360 version. It does, however, work as intended in the N64 and NS versions. However, on the Xbox 360 version, saving will be disabled until the game is restarted should too many illegal cheats be entered."

[@pressaTD]

I realized this much after, but either way I’m not able to use cheat codes still since it involves using Kazooie :(

[@stebbenwolfe]

Technically doing the glitch at the beginning involves Kazooie trying to save you which to me seems like you DID use Kazooie during this run.

[@pressaTD]

Lol well let’s not get too technical

[@jareddegear7503]

I’d be curious in a Kazooie run. Start at the Talon Trot without collecting anything (if you can get into MM without the first Jiggy). All movement from there is Kazooie: jumps, ratatat, eggs. Don’t move or jump as Banjo. 🧐

[@ShinMajin]

I mean, isn't the ground pound literally called the "beak bomb?"

[@ezrathefirstlionkeybladema4229]

On the Xbox version of this game, tooie, and nuts and bolts can you do a Professor Oak Challenge please

[@ShadowfoxProductions]

Kinda curious how a Kazooie only run would go. You'd have to talon trot pretty much everywhere, but I feel like you'd be able to do more

[@pressaTD]

You should definitely be able to do a lot more with just Kazooie, I’m just not sure how interesting of a video it would be lol. But I know a few people now have expressed the same curiosity

[@MeatSim9]

Okay but you can't use the cheats either because you need eggs to unlock the sandcastle anyway...

[@Kaepora2]

There's a reason they don't just call it Banjo...

[@Trillyana]

Is this what people are talking about when they say someone is a Jingoist?

[@pressaTD]

Lol

[@theghostofsmileyjunction]

that glitch to make you start in rusty bucket bay sounds like some made up playground rumor lol

[@pressaTD]

I wish it was!