Pretension⎮Miraculous Ladybug Season 5 Review

[@bluebird1914]

That scene with Marinette just owning Gabriel was perfect, especially how all she basically said was "Dude your pancakes are shit."

[@topgame2645]

🥰🥰😎😎

[@PancakeRights]

Not just his pancakes, he's a piece of shit himself. Deserves to go to jail and rot in hell. What a psychopath, harming innocent people, torturing his son, just to bring back his wife who used a damaged miraculous knowing the consequences. It doesn't matter if he's trying to get better, he's still a terrible person! Nathalie is aswell, but at least she's finally left the evil route and is TRYING to become a good person! In evolution, she was absolutely right!

[@TARDIgirl21]

I loved that scene too 😁 And Gabriel can quit trying to justify his attempts to force Adrien and Kagami together by saying it's a better match. It's so obvious that he's only shipping them to stay on good terms with Tomoe Tsurugi.

[@PancakeRights]

@@TARDIgirl21 Do you also agree Gabriel is a bad person? Poor Adrian.....

[@TARDIgirl21]

@@PancakeRights He didn't start out that way...... But yes.

[@yanoizikawa770]

Am I the only one who really wants to see Felix interact with dusuu? I wonder how he treats her. Also I'm still mad that they didn't give us his transformation sequence

[@ElusiveMoth5]

I think Felix might treat Duusu with respect, after all, Duusu can just remove his amok. It's his power afterall

[@Ivypool123]

no i also want to see that that would be so cute

[@bmb4rllyxcgsss837]

Omg that's going to be so cute. Since Duusu is very tied to her emotions I wonder how's Felix gonna handle that? I'll crumble like a child if he comforts her djfjjdjdnd

[@harsharagoonanan2310]

We definitely need some felix-dusu interactions. Its gonna be so cute to see him understanding and respecting her in comparison so gabe and her liking felix so much better as a holder than gabe and maybe even emilie

[@stevenjordan3839]

@@ElusiveMoth5 that’s true, the kwami is allowed to extract amoks possibly in addition to him alone as a holder….

[@kamrynm3491]

This episode definitely confirms the Adrien is a sentimonster theory. From how passionate Felix feels about the treatment/creation/destruction of them to the way Adrien is PHYSICALLY unable to disobey his father’s commands despite him desperately wanting to. It just makes too much sense

[@miloradstanojevic3784]

It's been hinted, yet it doesn't make any sense. Gabriel always rubbing his finger/ring and Adrien obeys. But if Emily or Gabe created him, he NEEDS the peacock miraculous, so why would he give it to Felix? Also, Felix of all miraculouses, chose the peacock. In emotion he calls a sentimonster his friend and a sister and now as you said, he feels passionate towards them/he relates to them.. The only thing I don't undestand is how Adrien still exists if his mom created him (cause she is dead) or how will he still exist when Gabe dies, if he created him?

[@kamrynm3491]

@@miloradstanojevic3784 I could be wrong, but I believe the sentimonster can still exist as long as the object it has is destroyed or if the holder who created it destroys it. So in the case that Emile was the holder while creating Adrien, she would have had to have made no other sentimonsters after creating Adrien (the wiki says each holder can only make one Sentimonster at a time).

[@miloradstanojevic3784]

@@kamrynm3491 Yeah, my bad. I remember now in "Feast" that Nathalie could control the sentimonster that Fu created hundred years ago

[@kamrynm3491]

@@miloradstanojevic3784 You’re all good! That’s what talking out theories and stuff is all about!

[@miloradstanojevic3784]

@@kamrynm3491 thanks for being so kind

[@LtBasil]

I love this episode for a lot of reasons, but for me the biggest one is how it really shows that Felix is just a kid. I feel like the show makers sometimes forget that. Felix is the smart one, the competent one, and the manipulative one, and most of his appearances up to this point have focused on those traits. But he's also only fourteen, and in this episode, it shows. We see him being kind of shy and awkward with a girl that he likes, not knowing how to express his emotions properly, and all in all being a socially awkward mess, and it's BEAUTIFUL. This boy is a walking disaster and I love it.

[@yanoizikawa770]

Couldn't have said it better myself

[@dianeadkins1281]

Adrien is smart too, the writers just don't show it that often, he's a fast learner but not confident in what he knows is right to do like in Passion he wasn't sure what to do when the bolts were after him thinking he can't do it without her when he was De-transforming but he thought about un-paralyzing Ladybug by taking off her miraculous and switching miraculous' to keep the bolts from attacking them, he knows several languages including morse code he can do two things at once - writing a poem and still listen to the teacher and what the other students were saying Adrien can also be badazz if pushed too far especially when being protective of Marinette

[@topgame2645]

Yeeesssss😰😰😰💖💖👍👍

[@topgame2645]

@@dianeadkins1281 👍👍

[@johnsparrow2234]

Ο Felix δεν είναι τόσο πολύ κακός που λένε η άλλη για εκείνον καλά έκλεψε τα miraculous of Marinette για ένα miraculous peacock. Αυτός φταίει που έγινε ο monarch αλλά όμως η την kagami την ερωτεύτηκε δεν το είχα μεδι στην season 4 για αυτό στο μεγάλο φινάλε ο Adrien θα μάθει την αλήθεια ότι η μητέρα ζεί.

[@-.Cosmic.-]

Those damn sewers get more screen time then some of Marinette’s classmates and Lila I like to think that the team who made it for it’s first appearance was like: “we worked so hard on this stupid sewer and you’re telling me that you’re only going to use it for this episode??? Hell no every chance you get you better use that shit.”

[@TheCatNamedToast]

honestly 😂

[@topgame2645]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@famillesabot5719]

It's Paris true nature

[@jackypiros4561]

Nah just lazy writing. Why come up with new and creative places for them to transform? Just use the sewer default.

[@mushlii]

I’m just so glad marinette isn’t being stalkerish or obsessive anymore 😭

[@topgame2645]

💖💖🙌🙌😁

[@sumasukumaran270]

Same girl

[@axionlightedge6108]

Thats because she got the guy. Now she has to figure out how to make the relationship work

[@egbert-3]

​@@axionlightedge6108 nah, she just realized how her obsession made the world almost end do she tried to stop

[@ANIMATIONLOVERBT]

@@axionlightedge6108 and had a beloved guy that was not cruel and stupid like Kim

[@TPRules17]

I hope Feligami develops more and Marinette and Adrien slayed this episode.

[@kingmagikarp97]

I love Felix and kagami being a couple I really hope they end up together and don't break up

[@stefaniarusso]

​@@kingmagikarp97 yeah me too

[@GeorgeTankerYT]

Why not Kalix?

[@kingmagikarp97]

@@GeorgeTankerYT that's a good ship name for them too

[@starsiadraws]

@@GeorgeTankerYT Sounds like Kagami x Alix, so not the best ship name for her and Felix

[@thatwildwolf]

Honestly at this point I think Felix's superpower is the ability to swap rings undetected

[@PancakeRights]

Fetch. The superpower of the dog.

[@arosegaming4793]

I interpreted Kagamis boundaries dissoliving when she lowers the chair as more of her getting hit with a wave of her seeing what she wanted from Adrien while she was dating him- she leanred she wanted someone more assertive and protective of her- which is what Felix is. She wanted someone who was rather close to perfect and clever- and Felix is. Evil and naive kind of perfect, but close to perfect.

[@topgame2645]

😱😱😱😱💓💓💓👍👍👍😰

[@jenclemons5947]

Not evil, just self-serving

[@arosegaming4793]

@@jenclemons5947 I dunno, casually walking through the city on a murder spree seems pretty evil esque to me

[@jenclemons5947]

@@arosegaming4793 seriously...take a walk in Felix's shoes. If I had to deal with a narcissistic sociopath with a God complex for an uncle -given unlimited powers, I'd probably be snapping people out of existence left and right too.

[@arosegaming4793]

@@jenclemons5947 Oh I definitely agree, but just because you were raised by evil doesn't mean doing evil things isn't evil. It was only after he couldn't bring back Marinette that he realized what he was doing was bad and he quickly undid everything after that

[@kiddiewinnierobloxgaming6449]

Am I the only one who like adrien and plagg 's relarionship more than Mari and tikki here are my reasons: After one ep Mari and Tikki immediately get along and their dynamic never change even in season 5 While in adrien and plagg their relationship in season 1 is full of banter and annoying each other but as the seasons progressed they grew closer and taught each other lessons like adrien taught plagg responsibility and that is what makes the season 2 finale where plagg has control over his cataclysm more impactful and season 3 and 4 shows them as kind of the brotherly bond relationship teasing each other but getting defensive when one of them is hurt or sad, and season 5 just shows their relationship progress more, so it feels satisfying that they go from being annoyed at each other to being brothers over the 5 seasons of the show. But that is just my opinion.

[@bmb4rllyxcgsss837]

I agree very much. Marinette and Tikki's relationship was always good whilst Plagg and Adrien had a very good development. I wish they should've gone by a super naggy Tikki since at the start Plagg couldn't care less, they should've made Tikki be so overprotective and develop that. They really missed on that.

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisFan]

Yes!!! You are speaking facts!!!

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisFan]

@@bmb4rllyxcgsss837 Exactly!

[@twigb6863]

Adrien definitely needs plagg more then Marinette needs tikki for sure. Not saying tikki isn’t important but plagg is a lot more beneficial since Adrien has no one to talk to about his double life it’s so wholesome

[@michalelkin-bronner7958]

@@bmb4rllyxcgsss837 well at first tikki was obbsed with sweets and marintte couldnt control her emotions madye they should have delpoed that a bit more

[@The_Watcher_0]

If you, as a teenager, can intimidate a 300 lb of muscle man, such as Gorilla, then I don't want to see how intimidating she can be with a miraculous.

[@Thehistorygeographyandflagnerd]

Fr

[@KanaHyoshi]

I wanna see more of Duusu. See how she would interact with other kwamis, how she truly sees her holder, or even how she would react seeing Natalie again.

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisFan]

I agree!^^

[@kainightshade5033]

Marinette and Adrien are getting more comfortable with each other which is so great! Marinette's slowly working through her past trauma and Adrien's being so patient with her 😍 "she ain't leavin' him for nuthin" you don't know how badly I cheered at that line! Smarty pants is the best HAHAHAHA!!! P.S Feligami is adorable!!! 😂

[@sumayyahrahman]

Which past trauma is are talking about, please...?

[@joudyabdaljalil]

It's from ep 14 (it didn't come out yet)

[@kainightshade5033]

@@sumayyahrahman Episode 14 "Derision". It has not aired yet.

[@samanthacristinaburgosmera4160]

She is not the only one with a trauma I mean Adrien is not the heathiest boy that boy got his issues

[@sumayyahrahman]

@@samanthacristinaburgosmera4160 must be why everyone kept saying "those 2 are made for each other..."

[@Pteriidae]

Maybe I'm giving it too much credit due to the usual quality of the writing, but this episode had impeccable moments, even if a _lot_ happened in the second half. Marinette ripping Gabriel a new one, walking out like a boss and then panicking behind a wall? Excuse me? Since when did we get so real with this show? And don't get me started on how based Kagami is (and don't forget about Gorilla, what a sweetheart he is) or how much Felix has stolen the spotlight once again. Cat Noir will forever remain number one but it would be a lie to say that Felix isn't a close second, the man causes glorious chaos whenever he goes and is an absolute chad. To think we'd have writing of this caliber, I'll excuse all of the show's weaknesses and shortcomings if it means we can get gems like this. Bless all the writers working on this episode, us fans are eating well today.

[@starsiadraws]

I really like Felix as Argos, too, he'd be such a good member to the Miraculous squad once they get all the kwamis back

[@miloradstanojevic3784]

No we are devouring this season

[@florence8495]

Agreed!

[@topgame2645]

@@starsiadraws +++will..

[@cacaumassipanoficial6203]

12:00 I think it's important to mention that Felix didn't escape, he stayed there but Ladybug decided to trust him and let him go, giving Kagami the luckcharm to help them fight and letting Felix transform and flee.

[@doraora6176]

I think this episode basically confirms Adrien is aware that Gabriel is abusive, and that’s why he’s so desperately trying to stay with Marinette in the kitchen, because he knows his father is capable of doing horrible things to her.

[@Jason-ty4nt]

Abusive? Always thought Gabriel was more of a neglectful type

[@KreepyKumi]

@@Jason-ty4ntneglect is still considered abuse. You can look it up.

[@Jason-ty4nt]

@@KreepyKumi Hmmm... If you mean like emotional abuse, I guess that makes sense

[@willowingwhispers2612]

For some reason, I always thought Kagami and Luka would get together, but I guess they're gonna shove poor Luka into the background with the other side characters since he served his intended purpose.

[@coachcorrina]

I didn't really understand the Lukagami ship (mostly because I don't recall them interacting), but then I saw Determination, and I was all for them. I do wonder what they plan to do with Luka though. I'm still waiting for what his purpose is for finding out both Ladybug and Chat Noir's identities.

[@amandamakin1542]

Well some are saying that there's always Zoe

[@decemberinthesummer]

@@amandamakin1542 **i think spoilers** wait isnt she gay?

[@mmsh-gaming]

@@decemberinthesummer She could be bi 🤷‍♀

[@wingsthebright]

@@decemberinthesummer her voice actress headcanons her as pansexual, tho i could be wrong bc i heard this with no source

[@StealzSFX]

Marinette was always my favourite character and now I’m so happy that she’s being so wholesome instead of stalkerish 😅 Edit: y’all I wasn’t expecting so many likes thanks a lot! thanks for the comments too glad to see everyone’s views 😁😅

[@michalelkin-bronner13]

And adrein he was he is being wholesome see strike back instead of being pushy

[@matthewbraith0411]

Ew why like a trash character?

[@StealzSFX]

@@michalelkin-bronner13 yup we love to see it

[@sweetlydrc2052]

She’s one of the worst characters tbh

[@orangepeel9188]

the creators of miraculous ruined her, just like everyone else

[@estherkamara6722]

Felix carrying the episode as usual. His relationship with Kagami is amazing!

[@crow1628]

*Felix and Kagami carrying the episode as usual

[@billykaplan9915]

How is it amazing? Maybe it's just me but the guy is a stalker and crazy Kagami should have only start trusting him after he gave her the real ring plus this only make Gabriel's and Tsurugi's "perfect for each other " bullshit true

[@angeljafbenitez1843]

The roast Marinette does to Gabe's pancakes was both antonishing and hilarious

[@Cjaj2]

This episode confirms for me that Gabe can only cook pancakes

[@starsiadraws]

He's so rich he probably has a personal chef so it would actually make a lot of sense for Gabe to only know how to cook pancakes lmao

[@kierahenley2335]

And according to Marinette, they're not even good ones lol

[@JustMe-mf5ms]

Yeah and he sucks at it

[@safilan8643]

I find it funny how everyone agrees with Kagami that Félix was being a creep but by the end of the episode they were still like "Yeah, I ship it". I guess that's just the power of good writting. Félix's spying is portrayed more conpetently than Marinette's. He gives his reasoning for abducting Kagami but also apologizes and promises to never do that again and he does, in fact, never do that again unlike Mari who did that for 4 seasons. Also, while they do not absolve him, we should probably take into account Félix's extenuating circumstances. He is currently hiding from the heroes of Paris and the supervillain of Paris, both of whom want his head (the heroes figuratively and Gabe literally) so he cannot just risk exposing himself in broad daylight by normally coming up to her and saying he wanted to talk. It's off-topic but I would just like to say that if I had a nickel for every time Félix ultimately gets what he wanted by robbing someone last minute I would have three nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened thrice. On another note I noticed that Kagami's and Félix's social ineptitude manifests in opposite ways. Kagami has a problem with expressing emotions and at times looks completely emotionless, while also restraining herself from showing basic human reactions like crying. Félix on the other hand acts very emotional, theatrical even (unless he's playing to con someone of course), has no breaks and inhibitions and doesn't know when he's being inappropriate or crosses some other kind of line. Kagami shows too little, Félix shows too much. Yeah, I think they fit each other. They can complement what the other lacks and bring out the best in each other by calling each other out.

[@topgame2645]

😐😐😐

[@xoxo.pochacco]

You're so smart omg

[@itdraws_63]

Felix is officially my favorite he's literally just as this person said he's more intelligent than the whole city of Paris combined. He has such a unique character I also ship him with kagami

[@topgame2645]

🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@fatherplatypus2316]

Ive been waiting for Marinette talking with Gabriel about fashion since, idk, S2? And honestly, the show barely gave us scenes about Marinette's dream being a fashion designer that i actually forgot that's what she wanted to do in life, other than Adrien I know we should appreciate what we have, and this episode is indeed good, but if we were to take all seasons into consideration, this is awful, bcs everything is overdue. I fear the show already turned bad due to how overdue things are, no matter how good this season is

[@izzy1356]

Honestly? I'm *flabbergasted* at how little they bring up her dream job or idolizing of Gabriel. Like we already know Adrien learning Hawkmoth's identity would hurt. But Marinette finding out THE inspiration for her life-long passion is a horrible villian? Who's hurt her, her loved ones, AND friends? That should be almost equally as impactful.

[@declanedwards985]

Man felix being a creep and a Chad at the same time…

[@LtBasil]

His character in a nutshell tbh.

[@Saturday6981]

It was INSANE. 10/10 for me! - I was shocked when I saw Gabriel like that..., he's dying slowely and the power of the kwamis ain't helping..., and if he doesn't get better he can't safe Emile or Nathalie.😰 - i love how this episode is pretty much connected to the previous one and both Marinette and Kagami talked to Gabriel and Tomoe! Really brave of them! - All interactions between Tomoe - Gabriel, Adrien - Marinette and Felix/Argos - Kagami were amazing. The writing of Miraculous has improved a lot, just in general, imo👍🏼 - Quite cute to see how Adrien wanted to stay with Marintte during the "confrontation" between Marinette - Gabriel, but... - It's quite sad, how Gabriel treats his own son like that..., I really felt bad for Adrien..., he tries to be strong and stand for his love relationship with Marinette and for himself..., but Gabriel always turns that off with just one sentence - I also really felt bad for Marinette and Kagami..., they don't deserve to be treated like that..., especially Kagami when her mother called her a dissapointment..., i was like, damn - The scene when Marinette ran to Adrien...perfect👍🏼 and the way she destroyed Gabriel🔥, she was so confident! But I really needed to laugh at the scene when she freaked out because of the way she talked to him..., so relatable..., she did regret it so fast😅 - I LOVE Felix..., this character NEVER dissapoints, I swear! He was fantastic as usual..., Adrien and Felix are similar than we think. Both of them love a girl and they both want to protect her from evil..., and Marinette and Kagami want to protect their boy. - FELIGAMI is amazing..., and I'm glad that Kagami is doing better, especially after Perfection and Protection. (It was really heartbreaking to see Kagami getting manipulated by Lila..., she didn't deserve to get that much hurt. But I also think that, because of the fact that she constantly has this mentality, that she needs to be PERFECT at all costs otherwise she's a disappointment or something, is really causing a lot of problems for her. No one can be perfect, not even Kagami and that's totally alright, cause her being nice, brave, strong, honest, intelligent, independent, mature, protective, carying..., is already INSANE, like i wish i had a friend like Kagami. Her mother raised her probably with that "you need to be perfect"-mindset, but I wish Kagami wouldn't get pressured by it. So seeing her being sad or broken, because she wasn't/isn't perfect at something or for someone, actually hurts...) - this episode was amazing on every level: Character developement Writing Pacing Animation - I really like how Adrien's bodyguard helped them..., as well as in Protection - the Akuma battle was quite intense, ngl..., I was really worried for Felix..., cause Gabriel and Tomoe want to get his miraculous as well now... - Every left miraculous holder (Ladybug, Chat Noir, Argos and Monarch) were in danger in this episode..., which makes everything just more exciting - I'm glad that LB and CN are starting to trust Felix more...👍🏼 - The endcard looks great and the following scene was quite cute ngl...🔥Can't wait to see more of them... - The sentimonster theory regarding Adrien - Kagami - Felix is getting with each episode more and more realistic..., i can't believe I'm saying this, but i believe they are sentimonsters...

[@kayladia9828]

Bro wrote a whole essay

[@YourMomsAltAccount]

Feeling very similar! This season has been FANTASTIC, especially compared to previous seasons. Everything just feels like it's had an increase in quality. Also really love Felix, I really hope they don't drop the ball with him because I'm very confident in saying that he could easily become my favorite character with how he's being developed.

[@Saturday6981]

@@YourMomsAltAccount 100% agree with you, except from the fact that Felix is already my fav character, him and Nathalie! Those are my Top 5: 1. Felix/Argos - Nathalie/Mayura 2. Lila 3. Adrien/Chat Noir 4. Alya/Rena Rouge 5. Marinette/Ladybug

[@topgame2645]

WOOOOWWWW👍💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰💘💘💖💔💔💗💔💛❣💗❣🤎🧡💜💓

[@topgame2645]

@@Saturday6981 Lila?😅 OK...

[@crossfire34]

Gloob will never stop releasing episodes early. The only way to stop them is to stop giving them the episodes early.

[@oswaldtime]

More like, the only way to stop is that AND for the leakers to stop!

[@BucyKalman]

Since Gloob is co-producing the show, they have the right to do it, don't they?

[@darlybiller8488]

"When in doubt go into the sewers that's the true moral of this entire story and the whole show in general really" 😂 😂

[@sentientmushroom2594]

I mean honestly the only other moral I see is Stalking is fine as long as your the main character

[@rafaelrivera7594]

@@sentientmushroom2594 or an important character

[@darlybiller8488]

Lol true

[@cacaumassipanoficial6203]

8:49 I admit, I found Felix really cute in this scene 😅

[@Ivypool123]

same

[@stefaniarusso]

​@@Ivypool123 me too

[@xoxo.pochacco]

Hes literally so adorable i love him

[@Ivypool123]

i loved this Episode Felix was so cute in this Episode with Kagami🤩

[@stefaniarusso]

Yeah I agree ✋ 😊 💯

[@liblib620]

I ship it

[@TotallyChloe_Official]

Who would’ve thought, Adrien getting tortured this much-

[@starsiadraws]

It hurt my heart to see him like that, his face was so full of pain-

[@hirahiro2331]

The Marionette we’ve waited for has finally came to the light. Huh. It’s like the show gotten better once Thomas left, weird.

[@Realslay]

wait thomas left?

[@hirahiro2331]

@@Realslay If I remember, they kicked him out for season 5. That or he "quit".

[@hirahiro2331]

@@Realslay but he did create the series so his name is still there.

[@nicolas._.2294]

Wait what? He left? Why?

[@hirahiro2331]

@@nicolas._.2294 I think it was due to his Twitter but honestly I don't know why. Though the influence of the fans does have a part to play.

[@LCN009]

"Marinettes a great girl. I hope you carry great memories of her when you move to London." 😁 Adrian :😦

[@kierahenley2335]

Cue Gabi dropping all pretenses of trying to be a good father to Adrien

[@amandamakin1542]

Oh God, not only is Gabriel trying to drive Adrien to either s*icide or get Adrien to snap his neck, but Felix & Dusuu are in danger.

[@famillesabot5719]

Even him is in the ship

[@wwg2005]

The Frickin face Adrien made gets me every time!!!

[@boingyboop4960]

Smarty pants: “Our villains are doing villain things” Villain things: Yet another strange machine that abuses the kwami’s powers

[@amandamakin1542]

The only difference is that Gabriel got the karma he needed from that; speeding up his death instead of healing him. Karma is a beautiful beach.

[@Karlz1212]

Would’ve been pretty cute to add that Felix tells Kagami a cringy pickup line that Duusu taught him only to immediately backfire in his face and grumbling about it to Duusu telling them how he knew that phrase wasn’t going to work It would’ve made a fun interaction between the two of them

[@TheRealBunnyHops]

I kind of want them to redeem Felix through Kagami

[@millicentgordon5427]

they technically already did right?

[@wolfstormwizard424]

@@millicentgordon5427at the finale yes.

[@eunoiaaaaaa]

@@wolfstormwizard424 dont spoil things for others please

[@dianeadkins1281]

I'm afraid of what would happen to him if anything bad would happen to Kagami or appear to happen like a faked death by the bad guys, he would most likely turn evil

[@rafaelrivera7594]

@@eunoiaaaaaa mate that was litteraly in this episode and in the review

[@mrthejayvion8211]

Felix has been surprising me, always thought he was just an agent of chaos until now

[@JeremyBelpoisX]

This has to be one of the best ones so far, I laughed and cheered so hard as Marinette schooled Gabe and even more when Felix more or less confirmed he's a Sentimonster...but HOLD UP IS KAGAMI ONE TOO?! I'M NOT READY FOR THIS WHY GLOOB WHY

[@fawazamjad5257]

I think Nathalie lost the GdV ring to Gabriel which is why she can't give Adrien counter-order or give him freedom and Gabriel goes all dictator to Adrien

[@starsiadraws]

I was wondering about that, why did he say that no one can contradict him? Maybe she lost her ring in an episode we haven't seen yet, but I hope not. Nathalie and Gorilla are like, the only decent adults in Adrien's life.

[@yuki_sushi3480]

Feligami definitely just feels right…. But yeah, give him the chair Kagami. I understand 😂 And im sorry but I have been shipping them since the episode Gabriel agreste. I litterally just loved them in pretension! Forever Feligami

[@dabest8777]

This episode in a shellnut: Marinette stands up to Gabriel while Felix’s true name is revealed to be Dupain Cheng, Kagami gets Stockholm Syndrome and LB and CN decide to trust Felix Dupain Cheng cus Kagami’s Stockholm Syndrome manages to convince them. The End

[@Ivypool123]

😂😂😂😂

[@cheyennecedeno6867]

Damn I LOVE how state what I believe. Poor Adrien's Kagami (YES! ADRIGAMI ALWAYS) getting Stockholm Syndrome!! 😹😹😹😹

[@LtBasil]

It's _not_ Stockholm syndrome. Stockholm syndrome is more than just developing feelings for your kidnapper. It is when a captive starts to mistake abuse for affection. Felix did not abuse Kagami. He genuinely thought that he was helping her. Does that excuse him for kidnapping her? No. It was stupid and it was creepy and it was wrong. But that doesn't mean that Kagami has Stockholm syndrome. It just means that Felix needs to learn to express himself in a healthy way. And probably therapy too.

[@cheyennecedeno6867]

@@LtBasil In a nutshell every kid (Adrigami, Zoénette, Sabrina to name a few) in this series badly need therapy.

[@dabest8777]

@@LtBasil Hmm didn’t know that. I would whooosh you but I actually found that a bit insightful so nice

[@EnigmaPrince101]

Pretension sets up a whole lot to look forward to for the end of S5 and the Gabriel Arc. Gabriel is going all out to sink Adrinette into dead waters and ship Adrigami ALL DAY, Felix is playing more ad the decisive chess piece that will inadvertently help Ladybug and Cat defeat Monarch and Ms. Tsurugi and the Senti Theory for Felix, Adrien and Kagami are in full steam. I'm still on the fence of Felix being redeemed to be a thing that I want to happen or if he should be shipped with Kagami, but I will not say that I won't be keeping an eye on him, and the more that Adrinette develops, the more I wish that this had happened much earlier in the series than SEASON 5, but that is squarely Astruc's fault moreso than anything.

[@Mystik459]

I agree

[@stefaniarusso]

​@@Mystik459 me too

[@richardthang5266]

@@stefaniarusso So Gabriel is sending Adrien to London with Kagami as an icon of his brand for some stupid pancake? He does have petty issues with his enemies in Paris, but it’s his son’s fault that he’s been humiliated by the baker girl who is Adrien’s age in front of his bodyguard.

[@iri02802]

I did not expect to ship Kagami and Felix in this show but now I absolutely do!

[@ghostlywinds5334]

Gabe getting clataclsymed made me go well its about time he struggled more than the hey i have every mirraculous to turn everyone into OP super villians. But, yeah i agree with the felix ship. Sure it's creepy to.start off but, at the same time felix actually playing it smart with scsttering the scent with mixing up the peacock feathers. Thats 200iq there

[@AnimeBleachBabe]

When did Gabe get cataclysmed?

[@ChocolateLoveKitten]

@@AnimeBleachBabeIn the episode Destruction.

[@RockSunner]

I think the inventions may be from prototypes created by the Goat Miraculous. Gabriel can draw anything into existence as long as it isn't magic, and it seems like devices that transmit magic from outside sources (like the Alliance rings) are fair game.

[@staydetermined6717]

Gorilla dad should become Adriens actual dad someday

[@topgame2645]

Yes💗💖💓

[@shrootiscute4750]

“she’s less blinded by rage” me: but mrs. tsurugi’s blind

[@Gadgetman1989]

My theory about how/why Gabe has so much money is because how intertwined him and Kagami's mom have in terms of funds? A self driving car that seems like a supercharged Tesla? Not to mention Chloe (even though she's a brat, I feel obligated to talk about her) Chloe's mom is a fashion designer like Gabe, and I guess in this world, if you do anything with fashion, you have the entirety of 6x the amounts of Fort Knox gold, and there are other families as well (Felix's family for example) that probably have old money and that's my thinking about how quick and easy it was for Gabe and Kagami's mom made the alliance rings and then the machine that was snagging the Kwamis powers

[@codenate02]

I was kinda annoyed in this epsiode that when she was Deakumatized, Kagami's mom wasn't wearing multiple Alliance rings like she was when she was akumatized. Most of the characters in this show probably wouldn't have noticed anyway, but seeing her wearing multiple Alliances (something she presumably doesn't normally do since she put them on as a part of the plan) after weilding multiple miraculous powers as a villain would've been a pretty MAJOR potential clue.

[@Strwbrychaee]

marinette's ladybug side is finally coming out more i love her confidence this half of the season

[@topgame2645]

💖💖💖

[@akirayamaguchithekitsune4010]

Well Felix/Argos is an anti hero because he is a bad guy in Emotion but a good guy in this episode

[@emeros8631]

I never thought I needed something like Felix Kagami but now I can't live without it

[@kristiandimitrov7066]

Kagami has been my favourite character for a while. I really hope that she gets her happy ending.

[@electrobob992]

You know having gorilla's first speaking role happen when Adrien is on the plane, would be hilarious. Like having adrien leave the plane before it takes off and him saying "Sir, your son kinda jumped off the plane. Said he didn't want to leave for london, opened the door mid flight and jumped." Just to scare him xD

[@penelopehill9550]

I love this 😂

[@Anthyrion]

I think at this point, Tomoe (Kagamis Mother builds [or let them build?] those machines). However this is possible.

[@federicofranco6419]

Small thing: do I remember incorrectly or did Felix mention his own father? Even saying he was a worse person than even GABRIEL?

[@rafaelrivera7594]

Wait didnt felix say uncle or was talkong about gabriel?

[@LtBasil]

He did. He said that his father was worse than Kagami's mother. Which honestly explains a lot.

[@brodypl5804]

@@rafaelrivera7594 Nah he meant his father

[@clarehidalgo]

What did Colt do when he was alive to make Felix say that?

[@rafaelrivera7594]

@@brodypl5804 ah ok

[@Cullenkid24]

this scene where he physically could not go back downstairs like disobeying is going against his core directive puts a lot of stalk in that Adrien is a creation of the peacock miraculous .... what if Gabe and Emily couldn't have kids. Did they find something that could create their greatest desire for a child? because you have to activate the miraculous for it to affect you negatively in the broken state right

[@Strwbrychaee]

Also, i made a video on TikTok about this but IMO that last scene is the end of Adrien's hopes of a better relationship with his father/the end of their father-son relationship. Those dinners were special to Adrien because he usually ate by himself and thought he was finally getting a family again. To get angry and ask to leave means he gives up on that dynamic instead of staying to fight for it. I think moving forward he will regard his father the way we all have been: as an obstacle to his happiness instead of the overbearing but still caring father he had initially seen him as. Its heartbreaking because Gabriel was once someone Adrien was close to, they've mentioned it a few times in the show, I think Gabriel uprooting his life to London when Adrien finally found a good group of friends and a girlfriend he really loves was his final straw. On the flip side, Gabriel telling Adrien this awful news is a sign he no longer wants to try and make his time left about good memories but instead about setting his plans even if it means Adrien hates him for it. Gabriel's contract with Tsurugi is putting pressure on him and her physically always being there to call him out on how little time is left and how he's obligated to finish their deal I think is why he no longer is the pancake-making, supportive, and kinder "dad" he was trying to be earlier this season.

[@briauna025]

I can’t wait for these episodes to be released in English! And I’m glad it seems Kagami found someone for her

[@ducksina_row]

At this point, in order to preserve my emotional stability when it comes to Adrien's deservingness of happiness. I need Natalie to just up an adopt Adrien, leave Gabriel, and live happily ever after. deadass.

[@Jack_is_attacking]

Are all of the rich kids just... Not real and controlled by rings??? At least the question "Where's Kagami's father in all of this?" is answered. Also! Happy new years Mr Pants! Hope you have a great 2023!I honestly love your content and reviews!

[@StevenDaze]

The Fact that Felix has his own Standards and Emotional Connections with Sentimonsters adds a very Vulnerable and Loving Element to his Personality and Character in itself which makes him a rather Likeable Character. Although, he DID cause Gabriel/Hawkmoth/Shadowmoth to become Monarch but Felix did show some Remorse for his Villainous Actions in the Last Quarter of the Season 4 Finale. *He might be my Favourite Character Now*

[@kwayneboy1524]

Wait so kagumi's mum knows about Gabriel being a butterfly man, since when?

[@kousl0ver]

We will find out later when all the episodes come out since they have been released out of order.

[@brodypl5804]

Since episode two, Multiplication.

[@zaney2172]

If gabe used his brain for a single second since episode one he could have given himself the ability to heal anything so he could have saved his wife or give someone the ability to heal

[@childeater272]

How exactly?

[@childeater272]

@@_MyNameIsAJ_ he didn't have the rooster when his wife was alive and also when the kwamis said nothing can heal the cataclysm I'm pretty sure it means not even the roosters power will wlrk

[@zaney2172]

@@childeater272 I'm on about him using the butterfly because he can give himself powers using it because of the collector

[@zaney2172]

@@_MyNameIsAJ_ I forgot the rooster can do that but it should be able to

[@mariannemoon9042]

What like make a sentimonster that can heal any wounds, magical and all? That is pretty smart

[@vermiciousknid2456]

I just remembered when she first became Riposte the akuma went into her ring, so then why didn't the amok come out when her ring/sword was broken? And if Adrien is a sentimonster and his amok is in the ring why didn't Felix try to take it from Gabriel? And I don't think Felix saying him and Kagami are the same necessarily means sentimonster, you said Felix's dad was a controlling parent so he could have meant that's how there the same. And as for him caring about the sentimonster's maybe he see's Gabriel's treatment of them as more parentally abusive behavior. And as for Adrien's obedient behavior maybe he still hasn't found the strength to disobey Gabriel and all the emotional abuse he's put him through Adrien might not have any confidence when he's around. (I know they probably will do the sentimonster angle but I still don't want to believe it)

[@ayanitemarifrancisco9333]

I love Felix since his one of the so called "VILLAINS" that can easily get under the protagonist skin without the need of a super power. Like come on- A classic kid that can easily steal your life with ease by just changing cloths and personality, has good character development, has been more help in both good and bad sides then Chloe ever has been less of a pain in the show and his such a good character that even some viewers can feel annoyed with his action's of being a brat time to time I may also like him a lot since his the classic excuse for a parent to say "Why can't you be more like your cousin?" and then the cousin is like a jerk. XD

[@ultear_yunan]

Well Kagami was ready to give him a chair not because of stalking, but because she was prepared to defend herself after being kidnapped by a dude with superpowers who literally thanos-snapped like half of Paris few days ago. So yeah he probably deserved that reaction and he knows it. I love how he is self-aware but at the same time bold enough to try and approach her, even if it means causing chaos, rather then just continue stalking like Marinette did. BTW I think fandom is really overreacting on his "wrongdoings". Like he probably followed her for some time after Diamond Dance, yes - because he was surprised to see a senti with her ring on her, and also because he suspected that her mother would try to take it away from her as soon as she will try to disobey, given his own experience with that kind of people. And he knew she will try to disobey their matchmaking cause she told him about respect she has for Adrien and Marinette. And he was right, wasn't he? If he didn't kidnap her, her ring would probably be taken from her right then and there should she try to continue talking to her mother. Also Peacock powers are emotions, which means that Felix can probably feel emotions in a similar way Hawkmoth does - and he probably could feel Kagami`s distress of being forced into submission. And yes he is acting impulsively and he is incredibly chaotic, but he was not wrong. He also made sure to detransform before talking to her so to not overpower her, stating that he is not the enemy for her, and he gives her a proper apology, being honest and open about his feelings while also acknowledging that what he did was indeed socially incompetent as Kagami of all people called it out. And I really think they are a good couple. Kagami finally meets someone who is 1) strong, assertive, confident, bold, straightforward and also competent - enough to oppose adults, the whole world and her mother personally - to protect her from abuse, solitude, mind-control manipulations and stripping her of her emotions; 2) only have eyes for her, and actually have confidence in himself and his feelings to clearly and openly state it to her - without backing out and avoiding her like Adrien did to her. Kagami and Felix are both putting effort this time instead of Kagami pushing forward like it was in her relationship with Adrien. Also Felix not running away from kissing her so that probably helps too :D

[@xoxo.pochacco]

You are so right

[@eeropussinen613]

They really nailed it in how Adrien and Kagami should be made for each other, but still aren't falling in love. I think that Adrien and Felix have been accidentally swapped and he's the one that's made for Kagami.

[@Zinervawyrm]

As anyone who has ever worked in retail can attest to; telling someone off with confidence and then having a panic attack right after for the rest of the day is such a mood. LOL XD

[@dmarx0025]

I wonder is the object that Gabriel has is a way that he controls Adrien. Like throughout the seasons Adrien feelings and wants was easy for Gabriel to accept, then in this episode Gabriel has control over Adrien to the point he left marionette alone with Gabriel and Adrian was stuck at his door don't able to leave but he wanted too for marianette. It's reminds me of the moment as Cat Blac he couldn't wants to love marianette and his wants to obey his father. Are they trying to confirm Adrien is a sentimonster?

[@fluffystar1]

Once again Gabriel acts like he could win the worst parent of the year award. How could he move his son to another country just because he's dating someone he doesn't approve of? Even Kagami's mum sucks as proven by this episode when she just strips Kagami from her freedom for going off with some boy. These parents really need some parental counseling because this is not how you raise kids.

[@stevenjordan3839]

+FluffyStarXD, yeah I agree that he would be winning the worst parent of the year award as he's so far blind and oblivious to what his son immediately wants and needs in all honesty both analogies were very terrible to use with Marinette and a terrible idea as a whole to bribe her to break up with Adrien how can you move your son to another country just because he's dating someone he doesn't approve of, and an I understand why you like this girl so much, enjoy these precious memories with her my son and you'll be moving to London next year....in all reality he doesn't understand it as a lot of what teenagers do with themselves is not so easily understood Gabriel should be figuring out at this point that this is his son's Emilie, who he has chosen to love, he said it himself last season that she's the person he loves and admires most in the world by erased timeline Ephemeral, and by the permanent one as we know it to be with Psychomedian that nobody can make him laugh better than she can He should also be recognizing his immense love for her as a father, he should also be answering the harder questions as a father as well like the one his own son posed in protection this season about accepting people from different walks of life, instead we go with the played out "adrien I'm your father" card Let's go deeper, this is going to be your daughter in law whether you like the idea or not and a potential heiress to the Gabriel brand which she's indicated since the show started she wants to be a part of At the very least you should be commending her for her courage in coming to you to seek the blessing to be with your son not intimidating her for showing courage in doing so You will have potential heirs and heiresses apparent in the children they will bear to your brand should they choose to be part of this as well, there's no need to worry much about immediate descendants It will also be your duty to support the children should they choose not to associate with the brand and do anything else other than the business, be there and be committed for them and with them in whatever it is they choose to pursue and support your son and Mari and their potential parenting style they will have with their kids im sure Nathalie and the bodyguard will be more involved here than Gabriel ever was, and Emilie herself as well if awake as for Kagami, yeah its senseless as well as both her and Felix don't understand their feelings well and I'd personally allow this instead of stripping her of her freedom to serve under her like Gabe controls adrien Since Argos has her amok, he is allowed to remote control all other amoks and retrieve them and free others from control with Duusuu allowed to extract Felix's own amok as well if it is within the limits of the Kwami's powers, but by virtue of holding her he's immune to his own hence why that could be possible

[@matthewphillipsbetts8470]

I learned when evil corrupts pancakes, raven once said: "Evil beware, we have waffles"

[@glam4663]

I just like how Adrien is one step closer to realising just what he truly is. (Being a sentimonster)

[@goddessqueen7730]

I knew they were going to Felix and Kagumi were going to end up together. It makes sense in a way. I wish gave and Kagumi mom would leave them alone and let them be.

[@sparda100]

i still hate this senti thing, it still just feels like a twist for twists sake and just means backwards character arcs for adrien and makes gabe an even worse villain

[@hezelia]

Adrien is definitely under the rings’ control. Those are the Vanilie rings right? They have influence onto Adrien (but not Felix) as we can see how Gabriel uses it to order Adrien then Nathalie too.

[@strelitziamystery21]

Feels like we'll get that TMNT crossover any day now with how often they are in the sewers...

[@kotarinn]

Gorilla is my favourite character. We stan him.

[@wolfindragonsclothing]

Can I say that literally Kagami, Zoe, and Chloe explained that everyone in the party the episode prior are extremely rich and important people. To the fact that Chloe grabs marionettes arm asked them how rich or special their parents are and them quickly remove the discussion because only the extremely rich kids get in. So yes, he is sitting on a pile of gold. In fact the same episode when he threatens Marinette other her career choice or Adrien that he controls his whole market through hard manipulation tactics and controlling motions. No one buys Gabriel's clothes because they like them or cares for other people's preferences, but because they feel like they are missing out not getting them. Kinds like Gucci slappy Gucci on a random t shirt and people think it's worth a 1000 bucks.

[@MindfulMadama]

Another confirmation that Marinette could not be in her class just like that, and we can't see all the people under the masks

[@myfavoritebunkerman_]

The order of these episodes is making me a little bit annoyed but I knew I was getting into a dumpster fire so 🤷‍♀️🥺 P.S. kagami is the best character 😌👍

[@TheRealBunnyHops]

Is the Sentimoster Theory Confirmed Now?

[@Ivypool123]

i think so

[@DZ_Mania_2024]

Pretty much on these two.

[@ThatBroadwayGirlRaleigh]

This season is getting crazy you guys need to watch the write out for the last episode absolutely INSANE

[@angmarie-gd5nq]

I’m glad for the character development lately but I still can’t get into the show the way I used to be. I feel like this season is trying to fix the problems of the previous seasons but it’s just so long overdue. I wish this plot had started developing a lot earlier bc now so much content is being throw in our faces and it’s hard to keep up.

[@topgame2645]

Why,?

[@AndrewSnake]

This ep was something ... but in the same time I'm confuse whats the deal whit Felix,his new goal or what be ..... and man i hate the senti monster theory But i have to remember this is a teen drama first hero second ....

[@Martin-yh7vi]

Same, I really hate the sentimonster theory. I don't think it really adds anything special to the series. Some people just want it to be real for the sake of it.

[@cycymaca]

I hate the sentimonster theory too, more in the fact that it feels like people cant have controlling famillies without being something besides human. Thats just me tho.

[@topgame2645]

@@Martin-yh7vi 😨😨😨🥵🥵

[@PercyJackson12345]

Reversing the cataclysm is so simple. Literally! He has the rooster miraculous, just choose the power to reverse a cataclysm. Agreste smooth brain strikes again.

[@callmehcit]

The rooster miraculous cannot do anything to limit or copy the power of other miraculouses

[@ishamekala09]

I cant be the only one who is mad that felix didn't tell kagami or anyone else gabriel is monarch.

[@gigiisaweirdo8175]

I was kinda confused when watching it, but I enjoyed this episode, but the whole time I was thinking they’re in the sewers again, Paris is empty, And Felix x kagami I knew it was going to happen but I didn’t know it would happen this fast maybe I don’t enjoy the ship much bc I havent rlly seen them interact much and bc the episodes being spaced out and out of order again and because it so hard avoiding leaks, but other than that I liked the episode

[@mpanamashile3901]

I love the scene how Marinette talk smack to Gabriel. I already saw Felix liked Kagami

[@arfiCamsatnaF]

I think they hired some new writers, I think the sotry is getting a lot better at this fifth season!

[@austint4139]

At this point I’m just going to ignore miraculous until the seasons over then I can watch it in order and with no spoilers

[@Zvwry]

Same I don’t like watching it out of order it’s hard to understand what’s going on

[@josratubangura]

That’s what I do. I just wait till it’s all on Disney plus

[@mine_neko]

Yeah... It also explain the reason of why will won't get Adrien to know the truth about his father??? Or him being absent for the end of season... All the plot is basically centered around him but he won't be there...

[@brodypl5804]

Why the hell are you just spoiling with NO warnings bruh.

[@samanthacristinaburgosmera4160]

Yeah I mean I'm so mad that SPOILER He won't know about his father at all I wanted to it could a development to his character no that inocent

[@maverickhanecak1682]

If Adrien’s had enough, than so have I of Gabriel!!

[@amandamakin1542]

I seriously wanted Gabriel to d*e, especially after Destruction.

[@maverickhanecak1682]

No one’s replying

[@melit.]

Okay I get Marinette has improved as a character and that’s a good thing. But, I don’t think I’ll ever be able to get over her stalker thing especially when she doesn’t get punishment for it.

[@kainightshade5033]

I don't get how? And be punished for what? Being an overobsessive fangirl? If that's the case, all kpop stans who go chase their favorite idols in the airport and kiss their photocards at home should be arrested. Marinette didn't do anything or know anything a normal fangirl wouldn't. People seriously blow up her stalker phase. Was it extremely weird at times, yes. But punishment? What punishment would you suggest? LMAO

[@melit.]

@@kainightshade5033 well stalking is illegal, and breaking into his home is illegal. Stealing someone’s phone, illegal. Many things Marinette did were illegal. Maybe punishment isn’t the right word but like I can’t support them together when she’s previously stalked him to another country and has sniffed pillows. Even not on a legal basis I think stalking is considered morally a bad thing. Like would you date your stalker because they don’t stalk you anymore? Or like would encourage your friend to do so? I think it just needs to be addressed what she did was wrong. And people actually call her out on her previous behavior without backpedaling it later on.

[@kainightshade5033]

@@_MyNameIsAJ_ Like...what? The only ONE "crime" I can think of is when she stole his phone (which I don't condone btw). I'm not sure how the laws work in Paris with a minor stealing from another minor but most likely, if the police would've got involved, she may have received a fine. Nothing more. So again I ask, what punishment is suitable for a overobsessed fangirl because now I'm genuinely curious?

[@Floptropica.8]

I mean I say losing all the miraculous was one pretty big punishment due to her confusion with Felix. Still she did realise she couldn't control what Adrien does and he is free to do whatever. She basically knew her fault and became a better person so idk

[@kainightshade5033]

@@melit. Firstly, I believe you should put this into context. Adrien is a famous model and she was a fangirl. Following him to another country, while weird, isn't illegal. Also, Adrien was going to Shanghai for the opening of his father's storefront in that city so essentially, a business trip for the company he works for. So keeping all this in mind, consider this. If BTS fans knew that Jimin was going to be out in public in Shanghai, fans would certainly flock from other countries even to catch a sighting of him. Would that be considered stalking? In a technical sense, yes. But it would not be considered a crime. Therefore Marinette is not guilty of crime here. The cell phone thing, I explained in a reply to someone else.

[@roxanne410]

THE RING OMG they're both sentis?????? That makes so much more sense

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisFan]

Feligami is my new OTP! I don't care for Adrienette. Also Felix apologized to Kagami for following her. Marinette never has apologized for stalking Adrien!

[@topgame2645]

Um , aren 't you tired of remembering this already ? Or do you want to remind everyone so that someone starts hating her? She never kidnapped Adrian, but just chased him like a typical fan, especially since Adrian didn't know about it, so Marinette didn't have to apologize for it yet.And Felix kidnapped Kagami so quickly that, of course, Kagami did not understand this, because Felix was not good in society.Therefore, she explained that the abduction was not correct.

[@topgame2645]

And Adrinette will always be much better than any other couple

[@dangerbuffrocky]

Gorilla is a chad. And so is Felix.

[@tanequawoodson7609]

I hope is coming to see Marinette can change her mind about everything

[@iantaggart3064]

It's possible that Gabriel used the miraculous to build those crazy devices. For instance, he used the goat miraculous to conjure them, and then the rooster miraculous to give them magical powers. Or simply granting himself the power to know how to build crazy devices with the rooster miraculous.

[@elizabethz7808]

Felix and Kagami are 100% my favorite couple ❤ they’re so great and actually genuinely amazing together

[@DigiDestined13]

We're getting the Sentimonster Reveal before the Identify Reveal, aren't we?