I REALLY Liked The Miraculous World London Special

Now listen, I know what you’re going to say. “Smarty Pants where the hell have you been?! This special came out days ago and I’ve been eagerly awaiting your faultless analysis!” Well I’m here now with a big one! 20 minutes! That’s an achievement for me, and I’m very excited to share my thoughts on it all with you. I may have been somewhat wrong on my theories but a few story beats did hold up so I’m happy about that, and for a special with the title of a city in it that showed up for less than 30 seconds I really have very few complaints. But I’m not going to give everything away in this description! You gotta watch the video! So enjoy.

[@hannahbarley97]

I liked the more darker tone this special took I did laugh when when ladybug said something along the lines of the new hawkmoth was much more cunning and smart. I was like “yeah because the one you’ve been fighting for the past five seasons was a smooth brain” 😂

[@greenstarlover1]

Yeah, I was like - finally! A competent villain!

[@animezilla4486]

​@@greenstarlover1I couldn't agree with you more

[@Mightymewing360]

Well you have the terrible written Villain Sue vs the writers pet Mary Sue so it’s no wonder why they say that main point is both Marianette and Lila are both terribly written characters

[@rubenlohata5263]

Ngl i liked the movie seemed more like an episode but idk why its called london while most of the things happen back home

[@rubenlohata5263]

@@Mightymewing360 how if they are both poorly written why do they continue with them

[@adawnn8901]

the reason her suit is yellow is so that bunnix can distinguish present Marinette with Marinette from other timelines. Imagine if she got them mixed up and pulled the wrong up back to the borrow and just ruined the entire plan 💀😂

[@greenstarlover1]

Pretty much, the hazard suit merged into her form, and made her glow neon yellow.

[@motez2355]

now i'm imaging if she pulls ladybug from origins P1 that knows literally nothing about her powers and forces her to fight one of the toughest enemies (Lila)

[@millicentgordon5427]

Plus it isn't weird since ladybugs are also yellow not just red.

[@hunterharkins6129]

Is the English dub of Miraculous ladybug London coming out before Season6?

[@murillomesmo8189]

that was for the outfit. I thought she was going to made the change intentionally since they can change their outfits if they wish to. But she seemed surprised after turning yellow, and as we had saw a few times in the show, the clothes they are currently wearing does not alter their superhero outfits.

[@realphantom321]

I love how Marinette got revenge for the “Marinette is monarch” thing Lila did in season 5

[@Mightymewing360]

Did the people in universe really believe that they got to be really stupid that a 14 yr old girl looks and sounds like a 40 yr old man

[@BRAINROT-f8p]

It's was Lila's power when Monarch akumatized her.

[@Xiuying.official]

Lmao that epi was wild

[@Orionsupernova]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Mightymewing360do you not pay attention to the show, it’s the quantum masking that’s gonna confuse people regardless of how similar their civilian appearance is to their outfit and even then, they were under hoaxers control. They can change their outfit hair nd even eye color but they can’t change their gender as a super hero/villain.

[@dizzyheads]

@@Mightymewing360 Her Akuma power made people believe whatever she says no matter how stupid

[@rainbowphoenix1363]

"Ghosts aren't real" Marinette you met santa claus who became possessed by a demonic butterfly, ghosts don't sound so crazy

[@joeydoesstuff2142]

Underated comment 😭

[@topgame2645]

and she also told shady bug about the signs according to which it is unfortunate to break a mirror

[@Str_berrydoll]

HELP THATS WHAT I THOUGHT

[@LucifrMorningstar]

“Ghosts aren’t real 🤓” Yet tiny creatures that live inside magical pieces of jewlery and give their wearer superpowers are…. I don’t think a ghost would be too impossible in this universe, Mari…

[@Crux_JCr]

Tbf that was just a mall Santa that got akumatized into a Santa monster not the actual Santa. And beside the Kwamis all the supernatural stuff is usually an akumatized human.

[@turmalin5072]

at this point I just want chat noir to do anything of importance. Just let my boy be. Also make gorilla take a full custody of him because I don't trust the rest of the adults at all.

[@reviewsandtheories4941]

Gorilla is literally the only person of importance in his life who has not lied to him every other person whose important lied to him

[@kitdoesstufflmao]

Gorilla is literally the best adult in the series. Definitely my favourite character.

[@proclarushtaonasat]

i have a feeling, that they gonna make him the main character for an entire sub-arc. right now, he is not doing anything, but he is at the centre of what everyone else was doing around him. when the s5 finale aired, people were angry, that they skipped from gabe dying straight to everyone being happy ever after, without adressing the consequences, BUT now we got an entire special about the immediate fallout. the writing staff did not forget the fallout, they were just saving it for this special, at least marinettes part of it. right now, everyone tries to hide gabes secret identity from adrien, but Cerise KNOWS the secret identity of monarch, and i dont think she will comply with everyones wishes in this regard. she has the ability to debunk ladybugs story whenever she wants. let them cook.

[@sonalimahajan8965]

Gorilla can’t talk so don’t know who they would lie-

[@mayotango1317]

Chat Noir's current situation reminds me of Chloe's in Season 3. Alone, feeling betrayed by Ladybug...and then Hawk Moth shows up to talk.

[@KennaL0vesU-r3l]

When chromobug tells Lila- "You're probably smart enough to not have the miraculous of the butterfly with you.." ..I paused it and thought ABT THE FACT THAT GABRIEL WOULDVE BROUGHT IT😭

[@Mightymewing360]

To be fair ladybug brings her miraculous with her all the time hell she gotten hers and the cat taken from Gabe so really what’s that say about her

[@ultimatefandom3127]

The show did not deserve such a banger soundtrack. The scene of her destroying everything in the lair was actually so cold though.

[@ishashifar]

True and the completely dead and expressionless look she had in her eyes the whole time she walked through those white corridors to talk to Adrien and her destroying the lair it felt like what it was a teenager who had to grow so much in a day because of the things she'd witnessed and the burden she had now.

[@PDD555]

And the intro with that music?! The Paris intro gave me chill but this. Omg

[@nellewoodruff6337]

Felt like an inverse version of Felix thanos snapping everybody except kagami and adrien

[@szelda]

People rarely ever talk about this kinda stuff but personally I think they REALLY popped off with the music in this special (and the previous season too honestly), really enhanced the entire movie, big props to whoever composed these tracks

[@Unbrickable27]

That's exactly what I was thinking the entire time. The score was majestic.

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF]

Some of the music in this special sounded like something from ace attorney. That’s a compliment by the way.

[@samanthaperry4543]

yess that was my reaction!! when i heard some of that orchestral goodness, it actually caught my attention (which i rarely pay attention to)

[@chxrryery4188]

especailly when she came back in the other portal when flipping the jazzy music was just bomb

[@Unbrickable27]

When Alex said "ultimate blunder" when watching the final battle I thought it was a reference to how badly they messed up the season 5 finale. I then realised they would never admit that

[@modest9584]

😂

[@paintingdreams290]

i mean she is acknowledging Marinette's stupidity in that

[@Dred0n]

I didn't even realize that😂😂

[@OldenGordonIV]

Im pretty sure I know what cerise's wish was

[@ztyran]

Two things. One: I find it funny that Adrien is better at keeping his identity secret than Marinette, as the only two who know are due to forms of time travel. Two: One mystery from the season 5 finale remains. What attacked "Lila" in the epilogue? I'm half expecting them to drop that plot point in season 6.

[@troublingcow925]

I'm thinking it could have possibly been "Lila's" akumatized form but I'm not sure

[@ztyran]

@troublingcow925 I'm pretty sure it's not, now that we know that the epilogue takes place months after the London special.

[@millicentgordon5427]

​@@ztyran It could be The Supreme,as only the Supreme defines reality,reality is the Supreme.

[@theofficialmonarch]

Thomas said they are bringing that up again and it has nothing to do with the special

[@lockskelington314]

I actually think that who we see in the special isn't Lila but rather The Supreme who came here after Shadybug and Claw Noir Rebelled against her!

[@arie735]

Man poor nooroo little guy just can’t catch a break I’m glad he’s at least happy in one universe with betterfly

[@akitkat-1225]

Ah yes, that ONE UNIVERSE.

[@Mightymewing360]

Really just one I’m pretty sure there are other universes where he’s happy if we’re including fanfics that is

[@hunterrousseau3770]

Hopefully this'll all change if he, Duusu, Felix, and Cerise learn about Cat Blanc one day who would probably be worse than Cerise, or Gabe really

[@_.xhoneybabyx._3946]

12:26 everyone has been saying it doesnt make sense but listen! As you all know, the typical ladybug you'd see is black and red. Duh. However, like everything else in life, ladybugs come in different shades and colours. This is where yellow ladybugs comes in. Symbolically, yellow ladbybugs represent prosperity or fortune. Particularly when a new era in your life beginnings. As a fandom, we're saying bye to an old animation style (SAMG) and an old villain (Hawky/Gabe), and welcoming a new animation company and desgin (Dawrf) as well as villain (Lila/Cerise). This is to "wish" luck and success to the series, as it leaps into these new changes. (As we hope for a future filled with better writing😭) It's very clever y'know. But then again, that's my theory.

[@deannerodriguez2208]

Love the parallel to Hoaxer there... Lila lying to frame Mari is Hawkmoth, now LB tricking Lila that Gabe is LB...

[@bonny2778]

WAIT WHA- She doesn't believe her, right? RIGHT????

[@AshBlueFox16]

I guess that was because of those Gabriel is Ladybug memes

[@deannerodriguez2208]

@@bonny2778 Nah, the writing is hopefully smarter moving forward and so far, Lila pieced it together as a lie... she doesn't believe Gabe is Ladybug... its like karma

[@bonny2778]

@@deannerodriguez2208 Oh ok thank miku

[@black-shadow-eclipse]

This special was so emotional. Seeing Bug Noir/Marinette so broken down made me feel so bad for her. While I'm still iffy about the decision to make Chat Noir not part of the final, I do kinda get why Marinette wouldn't tell the truth...She doesn't know either. She want's so badly to be honest, but know's that either way will hurt Adrien. And Adrien's breakdown was sad to see, the voice acting was really good. Do I think the special was a good setup for S6.

[@AarnaAmbardar-n5d]

Marinette did a lot of bad actions before...and I hated her for those reason! but now! SHE COLLABORATED WITH A TERRORIST! SHE COLLABORATED WITH 3 CRIMINALS! SHE DISOBEYED THE LAW! SHE LIED TO THE WHOLE WORLD! And she lied because of HER selfish toxic LOVE FOR ADRIEN!!! She lied for her personal gain! She's not just protecting Adrien, she's protecting herself ! She knows if Ladybug tell him the truth, Adrien would be furious with ladybug (and if he knows her identity, he would break up with her too) so she just scares to tell the truth! She's a coward liar! spread the word

[@animezilla4486]

I think not telling Adrien is going to be a big mistake in season 6

[@usernotfound_____yet]

​@@animezilla4486 I hope it does. It would be a shame if they don't capitalize on this plot line.

[@muichirotokito5624]

@@animezilla4486 Thats the main reason, I believe.

[@jestphoenix]

​@animezilla4486 it's like the bunnixes said: either outcome would've led to big consequences, especially for adrien's psyche. whether she lies or tells the truth, she is ultimately choosing how she damages Adrien's mind, and in the case of revealing hawk moth, his entire life. this special juggles the question in marinette's mind really well. it is a HARD choice, and her instinct is to spare adrien the heartache right now bc she's only 15 and doesn't understand how much lying to him will hurt him down the line. people's bias against marinette have kept them from understanding her perspective whatsoever and it's honestly so annoying.

[@themegagamer6086]

Ladybug: "There's no such thing as ghost" Ghostforce which is cannon to miraculous: "oh really."

[@redram6080]

I don't think it's canon to the show. It's most likely set in alt universe. Ghostforce New York is too drastically different from Miraculous version

[@themegagamer6086]

@@redram6080 Jeremy zag said so and there was supposed to be a crossover

[@redram6080]

@@themegagamer6086 I know there's going to be a crossover but she did travel the multiverse before and she most likely will again. I'm going to look up if Jeremy said that later. If true it doesn't really make sense to me but oh well

[@Neukarsmell]

When Marinette says “It feels like that (Origins) was 10 years ago!” 😂😂😂😂😂 Well played.

[@icaruskidm]

In reference to did tikki know all along this was going to happen, this is hinted at by tikki when Marinette first goes to sleep. Before she goes to sleep, tikki says she'll really need the sleep she's about to get, probably because of all the craziness about to ensue and probably to ensure that she stays asleep so chronobug can fight spectral looter without her waking up. And after chronobug uses the lucky charm to fix everything and marinette goes back to her room and wakes everyone up, plagg says he feels like he's missing something and tikki's reply to him indicates she remembers it all from all aspects. So yes, I think tikki always knew this was going to happen, ever since the origins special and just kept it quiet.

[@ItsJae_37]

thats very impressive of her ngl

[@paintingdreams290]

@@ItsJae_37 i mean she's shown she knows a lot more but just doesnt reveal as the need for it s lacking

[@ItsJae_37]

@@paintingdreams290 true

[@Will_Morand]

I get that the scene of Bug Noir breaking the news to Adrien about his dad was supposed to be sad, but between the goofy Bug Noir outfit and the Shinji meme pose had me cracking up and unable to take it seriously.

[@lateerfly]

I thought I was the only one who thought about the Shinji meme I BURSTED OUT LAUGHING

[@nellewoodruff6337]

aaaaand now i can't unsee thx lol

[@josratubangura]

I really like how they didn’t go the typical “Chat Blanc” route and just let us know the reasoning for why Mari lied (which makes sense to me). From the Ladynoir scene at the end, it seems like Cat Noir does know Ladybug is lying but doesn’t know the specifics. This was a strong episode for Marinette. The fact that she was so empty and in a moral dilemma the entire special was so interesting as you can tell the difference between s1 Mari to her now. I really do think there is a possible villian arc for Mari and an antihero arc for Adrien in the future. Finally, I really like how the special doesn’t make it seem like Mari lying or telling the truth was the right choice, because no matter what she chose, it would lead to good/bad consequences. All that matters, is how she handles it in the future. Overall, really good special (on par with the Reverse one)

[@JeffUni]

Exactly. The Paris and London specials make me think someone other than Thomas wrote them ngl.

[@dangerbuffrocky]

​@@JeffUnithe fact that he did shows that he's capable of doing good things. And even looking at the show, he has nailed some stuff.

[@dangerbuffrocky]

And now we don't know what would've happened if Adrien knew the truth.

[@josratubangura]

@@dangerbuffrockyit would be really cool if they showed both versions: Mari lying vs Mari telling the truth

[@Unbrickable27]

I'm praying the villain in the season 5 finale is chat blanc and not Lila. Lila can just be pulling the strings.

[@ACriticalRetrospective]

Why is Lila so scary??? Her outburst at the end gave me chills.

[@Mightymewing360]

Really it’s just a brat throwing a whiney fit

[@maellesaliou5871]

It's probably to hype her up as the next villain. In season 5 Gabriel became very mad and more evil and abusive than he ever was, so to higher the stakes they needed to show how more crazy and dangerous than him Lila can be

[@Ink_Nova]

Frrrrrrr!! whenever someone does that hyperventilating, hands on their face, and shrunken puiples, you know its SERIOUS and gives the chills.

[@Mightymewing360]

She isn’t that scary

[@Harumi27282]

Lila has anger issue. Also villain need to have weakness so hero(es) can defeat her

[@kamarismith9422]

Going into this, I was really worried that the special was going to try to justify Marinette's decision. I'm glad they didn't, though, and they just explained her thought process on why she did it. If this special is a taste of what the dynamic between Marinette and Lila is going to be like in season 6, I'm kinda looking forward to it as it's nice to have a villain that's actually competent.

[@Mightymewing360]

Replace Lila with Tomoe than you got a good villain

[@ethancox9737]

I think Lila being able to do all this is stupid.

[@Doomzdeh]

@@ethancox9737 It really isn’t stupid tbh. This is the kinda thing that a villain with the Butterfly Miraculous (arguably one of the four most powerful Miraculouses) should be doing, if they have any brains or any drive whatsoever. This is the sort of plan that Gabe should have been implementing at least a every few episodes. Instead, he just randomly chose a person, akumatized them, and hoped that they would bludgeon Ladybug and Chat Noir enough to grab their Miraculouses. That lack of strategic planning could have been excused for the first season, but it really became lazy and dumb as it continued past that.

[@ethancox9737]

@@Doomzdeh No, I meant that I think Lila being the new Big Bad in the first place is annoying.

[@muichirotokito5624]

@@Doomzdehtop 4 are ladybug, black cat, butterfly and peacock right? (Rabbit is to op)

[@sapphirewingthefurrycritic985]

If Marinette told the truth about Gabriel being Hawk Moth, it would destroy Adrien's life in more ways than one. Aside from Natalie getting arrested and no one being able to care for him, therefore either going to London permanently to be with his aunt or into the foster care system. There's also the chance that everyone would despise Adrien because they will think he was working for Hawk Moth. It doesn't matter if he didn't know or not, people are stupid and will look for someone to blame. He will forever be labelled Hawk Moth's son, even long after he is dead and gone.

[@reviewsandtheories4941]

True but you could argue that she pr Nathalie could have told Adrian at the very least he deserves the truth the public eh not so much

[@sebaschan-uwu]

Marinette or nino's family could adopt adrien if it was that serious also adrien is a celebrity he's the basically the justin bieber of this world so if justin bieber's dad turned out to be someone like osama bin laden, he'd still be known as justin bieber because he already had fame

[@krriss090]

Trust me, if you lie to someone, when they find out it will be much worse. She was supposed to tell the truth because if Adrien finds out, or Lila tells him, it will be chaos (but the writers are very cowardly so it probably won't happen)

[@modest9584]

@@krriss090that’s the point lol, this show is built on drama

[@Doomzdeh]

That’s the thing-Marinette didn’t necessarily have to tell EVERYONE about Monarch’s identity, but she could’ve told Adrien. She could’ve let Adrien, the one who would be affected by it, decide whether it should be made public or not. But, as usual, Marinette decided that she should control the stream of information and that she alone should decide who gets to know what. She seems to function on the basis of “need to know” rather than “right to know”. In a way, it makes her a lot like Gabe himself. He too decided to keep things from Adrien because he didn’t feel like Adrien had a need to know-he never cared whether Adrien had a right to know anything. Overall, my only hope is that the narrative doesn’t sugarcoat or brush past Marinette’s controlling nature when or if the lie is finally revealed. It would feel really cheap if Adrien forgave her right away, and doubly cheap if he stayed with her afterwards.

[@lilaswigx]

adriens reaction had me in TEARSS.

[@lasseehrenreich5502]

when Alex said they finally kissed it almost felt like she was one of the viewers - that gave me a good chuckle. But in all seriousness I really loved the special unlike Gabe Laila is actually intelligent and when Marinette said to Natali that she is the closest thing that Adrian has to a mom it moved me to tears.

[@Mightymewing360]

Is she really she seems to just be more lucky than smart that the people of this world seems dumb

[@ishashifar]

I mean Alix is literally in the position of the viewers though,she looks through all the events in her burrow she's seen the entire show play out 😅

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF]

I couldn’t help but roll my eyes. If I want a ship that actually feels well developed and adorable. I either rewatch Lumity moments, Huntlow, Raieda, Phinabella, Canderemy, etc.

[@lasseehrenreich5502]

@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF I mean Nothing will ever be as good Lumity but I agree that it could have handled Romance a lot better

[@Mightymewing360]

@lasseehrenreich5502 Hot take but I think Lumity is overrated like I don’t think is awful or anything but I think people call it perfect when really it isn’t like it’s mostly just for Luz so it’s really one sided and when it’s about Amity it still goes back to bring about Luz also kinda think they are boring just vanilla ice cream with the chocolate syrup if people like it that’s fine but I’m more of a Vegeta x Bulma kinda guy

[@Dtoons]

Ladybug’s lies are going to blow up in her face, and it’ll be exciting to see. But man, I’m so glad Lila’s the new Hawkmoth. She’s like the best character on the show. Cunning, manipulative, and mysterious. I kind of hoping we don’t see what she’s working towards for a long time. As for those that know Marinette’s secret identity, how did Kagami and Felix figure it out?

[@MillmooYT]

Kagami overheard Marinette saying to Alya that she's Ladybug and then later Kagami told Felix

[@Mightymewing360]

@Dtoons Quick question can Lila be any of those things you say when the world she in is full of idiots?

[@unknownguywholovespizza]

She's not smart. Just that the writers make everyone around her brain dead who believe everything she says even though she's obviously lying

[@chxrryery4188]

i wonder what she wished for???

[@cjgamer6356]

@@MillmooYT Then how did Natalie know Ladybug's secret identity

[@murillomesmo8189]

14:30 the first appearence of Bunnyx is her adult version comming from the future fighting an akumatized older Nino's younger brother. So yeah, Hawkmoth will keep existing for many years in the future if they don't overwrite it.

[@bellaboo818]

The only issue I have with the special is it still has the problem of things not making sense whenever Lila is involved, we still have no idea how she managed to get the miraculous before ladybug and without ladybug noticing and judging by what astruc said on Twitter I don’t think we’re getting a explanation since he said “it doesn’t need to be shown or told how she got it she just did”

[@davidwatson6202]

My head canon girl decided to take a dip instantly and that’s y she had to shave her head and get a wig cuz girl stanks 😂😂😂

[@ishashifar]

She had a backpack with her so she probably just dived in the water the minute no one was looking and ran out while Marinette was occupied with the Gimmi/Gabriel situation

[@dabest8777]

Why would Lila even pack swimming gear? Unless it was in those super secret Gabe info that she found out the base was full of water, it’s also quite lucky that there even was water to dive into because I guess Gabe just wanted to have water and it saved Lila’s arse. Also, you would think Nooroo would’ve tried flying away with the brooch once they saw Lila swimming towards it but I digress. Also also, I think a dive from that height would definitely still hurt big time unless she’s some Olympic diver.

[@javondozier7904]

When it comes to Miss Tsurugi, it would be best to not tell people the truth. The reason for that is that they don’t have any evidence linking her to helping Gabe. You could say that she’s involved because she helped create the alliance rings, but she can make the argument that she wasn’t aware that Gabriel was Monarch and couldn’t “see” him for the man he truly was, pun very intended🙃. If that were to happen, it would just be Marinette‘s words against hers. And being the careful person that’s Tsurugi is she will start being more cautious and hide evidence if it turns out that someone knows about her.

[@Harumi27282]

Yes, it maybe wise to not against her. I mean Teenager heroine VS Tsurugi the Blind Asian parent dictatorial Rich powerful president of Tsurugi company I want get away from that mother

[@njivwathomassilavwe2056]

The tone of this special was way darker than I expected but I really shouldn't have been surprised. I may not like Lila but I can respect she gets shit done her first attack and she straight up won. Poor Mars Bars was going through it emotionally here. Mama Nathalie my beloved she was so good here

[@Mightymewing360]

The only thing is I still can’t take Lila seriously because she still a kid and this is our big bad like come on if she was 26 I would take her serious but for now she just a brat throwing a fit

[@JeffUni]

@@Mightymewing360 Ngl to me I’m taking Lila more seriously than Gabe because what was he on in season 4 and 5?😭

[@Mightymewing360]

@JeffUni Well the problem is one an idiot and the other is a lazy replacement with the delusion of grandeur with no work and just lucky but really stupid it’s the Salem and Cinder problem really

[@Mightymewing360]

It’s still goofy tho that she able to do all this without any trouble despite being a newbie

[@sunglory4488]

I cried when Marinette told Natalie that she shouldn't go to jail because Adrian needs a mother and how she's the closest thing he got to a mother. I never thought that Miraculous would ever make me cry, but here we are. This special was an emotional one, and I really like that.😌

[@ethancox9737]

Why do you like that it made you cry?

[@sunglory4488]

@ethancox9737 Crying on behalf of a character and caring so much for them that I can not help but feel immense sadness for that character is I believe us humans' superpower. How we can connect deeply and care so much about a story. I find that the most admirable thing about life and humanity. Oh, and also, above all, emotional connection and crying is a level of connection to the story unlike any other. So yes, I like how it made me cry~

[@Mightymewing360]

To bad she still helped him hurt alot of people hell she also partly a reason chat blanca happened too she told gabe that adrien was noir

[@sunglory4488]

@Mightymewing360 Yes, but what I liked about in this Special is that unlike any other time she's being set up to face the consequences of her actions, I think that's a really big progress in miraculous.

[@TheNyleve16]

Now thinking about it, Lila having blonde hair now might be a way to channel Austruc's hate toward Cloe on to Lila so he stops ruining the serie's writting lol btw: I think she uses the butterfly miraculous upside down to distinguish herself from gabe.

[@dspace4514]

Things i didnt like: Adrien barely being in this movie, Alix has to stay away from her friends even longer and considering S6 is in a new school year, she has been there for at least 3 months, Lila being the villain for one day and immediately winning when it took Gabriel multiple tries, Nathalie knowing who LB and Marinette not evn tellling CN who Gabriel truly was. Things i liked: More Alix and even older Bunnix, though it sets the precendent that the heroes are doing this until they are in their 60's.

[@Mightymewing360]

Lila villain sue for sure can’t take her this seriously especially since she just got her miraculous for like a day or 2 ago

[@Skylar_candova]

I was also kind of disappointed that we didn't get to see Kagami confront her mother but nonetheless it was a good special.

[@Malialuvsmilesmorales]

keep in mind that lila is much smarter than gabriel. he was only worried abt saving his wife, and we don’t know lila’s. we don’t know much about her yet😭

[@Dred0n]

I don't think they're doing it in their 60's my theory is that Mari took back all the miraculous after Lila was defeated but gave Bunnix the bunny miraculous to ensure that the timeline stays intact.

[@SnapeZealous]

This special was emotional and Fun

[@caesarcesar7488]

The issue with the Bunnyx disappearing is a matter of paradox. Basically, there is one definitive timeline, but, because time travel is possible, cracks will appear at some point within the Burrow if/when people start to mess with it. That's why the Bunny Miraculous was made, to manage these types of events. Anything seen from within the Burrow is what could have happened without interference, but since the Bunny holder has the duty of protecting time, they are the ones that have to interfere. For example, the 2 older Bunnyx disappearing is what could have happened if young Bunnyx and Ladybug didn't interfere with the timeline.

[@Ink_Nova]

i think the best way to look at it is: that there is the normal timeline which is what the characters see, and what the burrow sees. and there's the 'super timeline' (crappy name but idk what else to call it) which is the story narrative as we see it and how things occur. so even tho alix is chilling in the burrow, the super-timeline is progressing and when something happens like the stuff in the london special, the super-timeline still flows and is unchanged, since all this stuff with chronobug and lila's/ Cerise's ghost villains is stuff that's meant to happen. while the normal timeline collapse when lila/ Cerise makes her wish, the super-timeline is all chill and sorta holds everything together, preventing this all from being a flaming wreck. simply put: there's the in story timeline, and the plot armour, cannon show events timeline. whenever the characters fiddle with time, it involves changes to the story timeline but in the end its all apart of the plot armour cannon show events timeline

[@dabest8777]

@@Ink_Novabut how does a super timeline even make sense in the first place? Because these events would’ve had to already have taken place for any of these characters like future bunnyx, Timetagger and etc to even exist so time must have already flown from our time to the distant future and so I don’t understand how the Bunnyx are only NOW disappearing considering the fact that Lila never really messed with the timeline and what makes it even more confusing is how chill they are, as if they know what’s going to happen which would never make sense if they don’t exist which means that they never solved this problem in the first place. Another thing to consider is the fact that they vanish from existence in an instant but in Chat Blanc, we see it takes ages for older bunnyx to vanish despite both of them being destroyed by a huge ball of miraculous energy

[@mxribug]

this special was so depressing 🙁 felt so bad for marinette and adrien the entire time. Mari looked so numb and sad the ENTIRE time. Gabriel really did ruin her and her happiness entirely.

[@animezilla4486]

That's why the special is very interesting

[@phoenixshadow6633]

On one hand, Marinette acknowledge that Gabe was a smooth brain. On the other hand, Marinette lost to a smooth brain by letting her guard down while he was still armed. Who is the bigger fool? The fool or the fool that follows the first fool?

[@Mightymewing360]

Marinette at least Gabe knows to try something new to work you know experiment with the script telling you to lose Marinette was just being dumb

[@ishashifar]

I mean it was the fact he was the fool that made her job easier

[@Doomzdeh]

Marinette is a fool when it comes to love and Adrien. Gabe is just a straight-up fool. Like, he had the power to akumatize anyone and later the ability to make Sentimonsters and to imbue his minions with the powers of the other Miraculouses, and he still didn’t craft any complicated plans (beyond Sentibubbler and Optigami). Then, he committed the ultimate blunder by allowing Felix to just leave after he recognized that Felix knew his identity.

[@Mightymewing360]

Marinette just a fool in general

[@Doomzdeh]

*This Special’s Main Takeaway:* The Chad Villain Lila vs The Virgin Annoyance Gabe

[@Mightymewing360]

Not that big of a highbar one sucks and had the scripted against him and the other is playing on rookie baby pussy mode I think Tomoe would’ve been better to be honset

[@ethancox9737]

Frankly, I'm mad that they made Lila so much smarter than Gabriel.

[@Doomzdeh]

@@ethancox9737 They kinda had to. They originally wrote Hawkmoth to be a cheesy episodic villain, so they kinda had to keep that element all the way through. But people have long since tired of that. By the end of Season 3, I think everyone was kinda sick of how incompetent Gabriel was. Making Lila just as incompetent would just make people tune out

[@ethancox9737]

@@Doomzdeh I know, but I think making Lila the new main villain in the first place was kind of silly, especially since she already caused so much trouble while Hawkmoth was still around. Plus, they could have made Gabriel at least a bit smarter while still keeping the cheesy monster of the week aspect.

[@Harumi27282]

​@@ethancox9737 actually it's backward. They lower Gabe's iq

[@bonny2778]

Me and my friend were watching the special, and I started shouting "W-WAIT LILA LOOKS SO BADASS"

[@Harumi27282]

Lila-the least smoothest brain of the show

[@patrokwanzana4075]

The cool thing about the yellow ladybug is that yellow ladybugs actually exist :)

[@richardk4625]

I would like to believe that the rabbit miraculous is not so op because of the possibility of many time paradoxes (like the second film of Back to the Future), and that it is not shown in the series only because the paradox is fixed by the miraculous ladybug. So far, it seemed to me that Gabe remembers his akuma transformations, as do Natalie and others who volunteered to help him.

[@Str_berrydoll]

But honestly Marinette cold, soulless expression due to the trauma was like such a punch to the gut

[@kitdoesstufflmao]

Personally, I thought the special was pretty good. Not as good as the Paris special, but it was definitely the better writing from Miraculous

[@hirahiro2331]

Im actually hyped for the new look! And it does sound like a good story so far! It is stupid to call the special "London" is they aren't really in London. Your title was more engaging. Im a bit fed up with the color = new name when it should be new color = same name, especially if theres nothing added to it other than a different skin. It is ironic how nearly every important person knows "THE BIG SECRET" and life goes on, but for some reason if Adrien knew, the world will end. Kind counterintuitive... ah well but sometimes, we have to shut our brains off to understand that there's nothing to understand.

[@thanatosdriver1938]

I think the problem comes down to the existence of Gimmi the Kwami of reality

[@ishashifar]

It's not really Adrien knowing that would cause the world to end the root cause was always Gabriel,Cat Blanc nor ephemeral would've happened had Gabriel not taken advantage of his son at a vulnerable moment to akumatize him,by that logic if Lila weren't so occupied at the moment the moment Ladybug told him his dad died would've also been a perfect moment for akumatization but that didn't happen,he needs time to process it grief is normal but people do eventually move on even if it takes a long time for some,it would've hurt Adrien the same but he wouldn't have been akumatized without Gabriel intervening

[@fluffycorn_njst]

Just to note that the bright yellow suit *does* have a significant purpose and that’s so bunnix knows which is present-day LB and so she would accidentally pull out a diff LB from a diff timeline.

[@MalikIshtarSama]

ok this one was undoubtedly the best one so far. What stood out the most to me was the CINEMATOGRAPHY. Like holy crap, it was such top tier. Interesting angles, unique composition, just such a stark difference to the usual show. Also liked the dialogue, it felt mature and not dumbed down. The story was really good. I love the dark undertones, very emotional and I teared up a couple of times. Action was great, Marinette was really witty and the villain was super cunning. I love that the good guys won, but there is no real celebration at the end, LB and CN are both mentally and emotionally drained. I rlyrly hope the new season is gonna continue on this path, this was such a drama and action tense episode, I won't be able to take it if we go back to Icecream Man-villain and trash filler episodes. They are for sure setting up Marinette's lie as a big plot device for the future, most likely truth will come to light in the finale of one of the next season's finales. It really feels like they're setting Adrien up as Marinette's final boss battle.

[@MelodyMeadows11037]

This whole thing made me cry twice. TWICE!😭😭😭😭😭

[@SkyPerson]

“Too timey-wimey for me” Me, A DrWho fan: I have no such weaknesses

[@Lionwoman]

Yeah, I did like this special too. The emphasis on the heavy emotional part and the moral ambiguity, you can feel it in each of the scenes where Bug Noire / S5 end Ladybug appears, specially when Bug Noire (spoilers) destroys the evidence and when she tells Nathalie that the truth is what Ladybug would tell the World.

[@jestphoenix]

this feels like the first time they're REALLY grappling with the amount of power ladybug has over paris. it's surprisingly compelling and well done.

[@elsinaattheworkshop]

Her suit is yellow bcuz she needed to differentiate herself from all her past self. That's why she also wore the vest.

[@goldenjax13]

Really liked the special! The darker tone makes me so excited for S6. 6:34 I'm guessing Lila's wish is something miraculous-related like the Ladybug never existing. 18:45 Isn't this the first time the show's referred to somebody as 'dead'?

[@ChetanSharma-g1w]

Yea coz they always used to say that Emilie "DiSaPpEaREd"

[@ethancox9737]

Why do you like the show getting darker?

[@goldenjax13]

@@ethancox9737 I think I like it best when the goofy stuff is mixed with some more serious plotlines; a wider spectrum of stories gives the characters more opportunities to evolve

[@ethancox9737]

@@goldenjax13 Got it. What if they don't end up evolving much? Also, have you seen the awakening movie?

[@twinyang1770]

@@ethancox9737 bro why are you interrogating them chill

[@CreativeStoryteller35]

THEORY!!! At the end of the London special, Marinette said she gave the miraculous some new features. What if one of those allows all the miraculous to be able to capture an akuma!! Or just gives them all a magical yo-yo. That would allow any hero to battle an akumatized villain without Ladybug always needing to be there!! And it would give our new heroes time to shine and show off their individual strengths!!

[@pslayer8943]

Image if she was able to put a tracking device, in case Lila manages to steal one miraculous.

[@paintingdreams290]

@@pslayer8943 i think she'd probably do this

[@MarinetteWinters]

I hate how Cat Noir/Adrien has been pushed aside for all these seasons, BUT I do like now that it at least can be used to build up towards an INSANE villain/anti-hero arc. Adrien knows SO little and is being lied to and kept in the dark about so much, I'm DYING to see him finally learn everything. Of course, like everyone else, I just want him to be happy, but we have to deal with the tragedy of his life. (Ideally, he'd be treated as an equal character early on, but at least there's something to look forward to in the future.)

[@ethancox9737]

I'm not looking forward to it at all.

[@koko-chan228]

Somebody remember when in s4 finally, chat noir said to ladybug he would help her defeat hawkmoth?? Just me 😢?

[@krriss090]

The writers: We need to get rid of him, if he fights he could steal the spotlight from our protagonist,and also put Marinette to have some connection with Gabriel in civilian life as soon as possible so that the final fight has the least emotional charge.

[@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaDennisTRF]

F*** you show writers! You damn cowards!

[@Patted_Potato]

been waiting for you to post this

[@sandragruber3095]

the 4th wall break when Marinette says the origins episode feels like 10 years ago

[@shacharlem4424]

I like to think that everything from season 1-5 was basically the equivalent to the first Jojo story "phantom blood". A bit clumsy, awkward and still sort of getting the hang of it, but had a genuine heart in it. The next one will be its "battle tendency". Believe It or not, but both phantom blood and the agreste arc have far more connections than you think. Reception wise, they're probably the lowest rated (but will still be the most important part to understand the story) as the creators were still like a bit learning to walk with it. Ironically, it happened in opposite ways (the agreste arc started well but began to sour with time while Phantom Blood started sour but improved as time went on. Same goes to the protagonists Jonathan and Marinette and even their relationships with Adrien and erina). Story wise, both feature people of lower and high class finding supernatural artifacts (the miraculouses and the stone mask), blonde deciveful handsome devils abused by their dads before those dad's died from disease (Felix and Dio with colt dying due to using a broken miraculous and Dario dying due to Dio poisoning him), old Chinese men who drove the plot forward (Fu and Wang Chen), innocent nobles (Adrien and Jonathan), characters who were originally poor but became connected with rich people later on and became successful themselves while also being English voiced by Keith Silverstein (Gabriel and Speedwagon), a bullied girl who later became stronger (Marinette and erina), villains who use minions (Gabriel and Dio), a mentor who sacrifices themselves (Fu and zeppelin) and even a bittersweet simultaneous win/lose ending involving the rich characters (Gabriel sacrificing his life to heal Natalie and move on with Emilie by using the wish and Jonathan encouraging erina to escape the exploding ship and rescue a baby at the cost of his life while also keeping Dio detained).

[@jedemu]

To me, it was an OK special. I like that we get to fill in the gaps between the wish and the "epilogue" of season 5. It kinda explains why Marinette doesn't want to explain anything to Adrien, but the story also recognizes that it might not be the right thing to do. It also sets up Lila as a competent villain, rather then a bad liar. The thing I don't like about the special is that it doesn't really change anything. The special starts with Marinette hiding the truth about Gabe and being unsure about making the right choice. And it ends with Marinette hiding the truth about Gabe and being unsure about making the right choice. This is one of the few moments in the series where you have access to time travel, since Bunnyx is going to stay in the burrow again for the next season, so Marinette has a way to change her choice. I wish her choice to hide everything was more based on what happened in this story (for example, Marinettes story to Adrien could've clued in Adrien that Marinette is Ladybug, and Lila found that out because she was stalking Adrien because he's Monarchs son). I feel like they could've done more to explain Marinettes choice. Also small detail that was missed: There should've been a scene with Lila diving up the butterfly miraculous and bringing it to her lair

[@Mightymewing360]

I just wish Lila was learning to be competed instead of just starting right out she just got the damn thing and is suddenly is a master at it would’ve been more interesting to see the villain rise to power then to start out

[@rensike569]

@@Mightymewing360I mainly think it’s because she got a copy of the translated book that Fu had and she got it on Hoaxer, she had time to study it

[@Saturday6981]

I've already seen it 7 times..., SO GOOD. My ranking of the specials: 1️⃣ Miraculous World London 2️⃣ Miraculous World Paris - 3️⃣ Miraculous World Shanghai 4️⃣ Miraculous World New York

[@Owell_Owl]

12:49 "That's Comsic Queen Catbug Rouge"😂

[@IceMasterFilms]

The voice was so good and funny 😆

[@Owell_Owl]

I know there's always a funny line in the reviews

[@AriesDZ]

That was the most _intense_ Miraculous episode I've _ever watched!!!!_

[@gamingdestruction2918]

4:44 yeah Nooroo can barley move, and she snapped him so he was like a doll, that is way more than what Gabriel did.. he silent nooroo a few times but still allows nooroo to speak and doesn't turn him into a doll and nooroo was allowed to move alot more than just one bit of space.. Gabriel was horrible but not that evil..

[@alexbynkov3887]

Love Cerise’s new design as well, I hope that she will continue having this design in Season 6

[@hunterrousseau3770]

And Felix if he ever revert back to his old enemy ways with series Ladybug if they also found out how different animated movie Ladybug is from her there here

[@delphoxhoopa7289]

As someone who's been through a lot of traumatic and painful experiences in their life to the point that they're just now becoming comfortable with being honest with their emotions, Marinette's empty stare at the beginning of the special made me feel seen. And I hate it. Very accurate representation of someone who's been through so much crap that they're borderline numb to everything around them.

[@littlesparrow303]

I just love when the writers take things serious especially LB using more physically form than relying on her weapon. We know Adrien will go down that route. The yellow suit was a grower for me & it does look nice on her. I don’t have an issue with the new animation it looks cute. Also Cristina did say in an interview it’s a soft reboot but a continuation of the series. Hopefully the writing is like this especially Lila being a scary villain

[@AriesDZ]

Lila and Felix are the smartest characters in the show. I'm gonna say this: If *_anyone_* is gonna find out Lila's identity in the upcoming seasons, it's gonna be *Felix.*

[@Mightymewing360]

Felix yes but Lila not really

[@nellewoodruff6337]

Lila is giving me Junko Enoshima vibes, only thing crazier than her is what she's capable of

[@ReginaMacKenzie1994]

I am excited to be getting a scary villain. It really augments the stakes and the sense of urgency and importance. I never cared if Gabriel won because his goal was ultimately harmless; in fact he did win and the worst thing that came from it was that his successor is more dangerous by far. With her though? We are getting a sense of being truly afraid of her victory, giving us a reason to care.

[@artusking9747]

12:28 I think it's like what happened to rina rouge. The costume adapted to a new role. In this case, distinguishing her from other marinettes

[@josemacias8010]

Let’s go! I was waiting since Saturday for ur content for this special. I enjoy your reviews and opinions + theories for MLB content so thank you for all ur hard input. The special is a straight up 8/10 🎉 it did in great in introducing a premise for S6 and close off the agreste saga

[@Doomzdeh]

*Past Bug Noire and Kagami:* Having a serious and emotional conversation in an open room *Chronobug and Timestalker:* Loudly fighting in the hallway, just a few feet away, with Chronobug loudly calling for a Lucky Charm *Past Bug Noire:* “You hear something?” *Past Kagami:* “…No. Let’s go tell Adrien that his dad is dead.” This. This is one of my only issues with it. I really felt like the threat of being heard by others should have been more present. Overall, I think this Special was easily top 2, alongside the Paris Special. The mature themes and emotional depth and Lila’s epic villain plan took things to a new level.

[@coursefearwell4847]

Also how Chronobug suddenly got good after changing the book. Before she was really struggling, then after she had no problems with Timestalker.

[@Doomzdeh]

@@coursefearwell4847 I agree, of course, but I think you can kinda chalk that up to Chronobug becoming increasingly confident (at that point, she knew she had already won), while Timestalker became increasingly desperate as she recognized that her plan was being thwarted yet again. Personally, I think it would’ve made more sense for Marinette to write someone else’s name down as Ladybug in Lila’s notebook. Or maybe even write that Lila couldn’t figure it out. That way, Lila wouldn’t know that Ladybug had necessarily thwarted her and would instead think that Ladybug’s identity wasn’t made clear enough for her akumatized self to figure it out. Because really, what was stopping Lila from trying again? She knows that Ladybug intervened, but she also knows that the plan probably would’ve worked otherwise. Ergo, she could just try again in a more discreet way so as to avoid Ladybug entirely. After all, she doesn’t remember what happened while she was akumatized, so she shouldn’t remember exactly HOW Ladybug bested her.

[@coursefearwell4847]

​@@Doomzdeh That did cross my mind, so I hope that's the case rather then the writer's falling back into making the villain incompetent just so Ladybug can win. I mean, her plan was really cleaver, but it's a slippery slope and I don't trust the writers anymore. And you're right, she could have just erased the whole "Ladybug =" thing entirely, because Timestalker had no real reason to suspect that the notebook had been tampered with. And even if Lila had noticed after that it had been tampered (cause that hand sanitizer is going to warp the paper), she shouldn't be able to figure it out. Putting a random name could have accidently endangered a real person. Though it would be funny if she picked a super common first and last name and so Lila would have to go through a ridiculously long list to try and figure out.

[@ultimategohan982]

Lilas Hawkmoth will be interesting to see. Ladybug's Lies will definitely blow up in her face, and Adrien will not take it well especially if he finds out from Lila that not only did Ladybug lie but Nathalie was an accomplice knows the truth.

[@ReginaMacKenzie1994]

Lila will be the Carnage to Marinette's Spiderman just as Gabriel was the Green Goblin to Marinette's Spiderman. This guy well articulated just how scary she seemed in this episode; and I am looking forward to it continuing and expanding. I am quite sure that her meltdown scared many people; let us hope that they continue to make her nightmare fuel.

[@Mightymewing360]

I can never see Lila as Carnage I can see her as more maybe Mystrio at best

[@ReginaMacKenzie1994]

@@Mightymewing360 Mysterio is not as cruel or violent as Lila; the scenes of Lila in private in Perfection in S5 and in this special give me serial killer vibes so yeah Carnage not Mysterio.

[@Mightymewing360]

@ReginaMacKenzie1994 I might be thinking of no way home but the thing is take away the miraculous, lies and tech getting rid of the lies and illusions form lila all you got is a pathetic nobody who throws fits kinda like mysterio in no way home see where I’m going with this a bit

[@ReginaMacKenzie1994]

@@Mightymewing360 I mean in Marvel more generally. Several times she has acted like a serial killer and this special gave plenty of people (Smarty Pants among them) the creeps. As for the claim that without a miraculous she isn't much, I have to disagree, she has managed to be a menace before she took Nooroo. And tbh, the claim that being less relevant without a miraculous makes a character inconsequential could apply to everyone other than Lila and Felix. Find me anyone other than those two that remain relevant at all without a miraculous.

[@aphiidoidea]

such a good special, but yeah my only issue is that one main character is being totally left out. which would be fine by me, i’m not against an episode or special dedicated to one main character, but honestly ladybug is ALWAYS the main focus. i mean chat wasn’t even in the finale lol. soooo to solve this i would love to see another special focusing mostly on chat noir, maybe it could be a secret side mission he wants to take because he’s losing trust in ladybug or smth. idk lol but this was very good still

[@kaileyturtleborn2484]

I have been refreshing hourly for this video - well done smarty pants!!

[@mayotango1317]

I half expected Bunnyx to confess that all the retcons that came out of nowhere in the series, from Zoe Lee to the "secret trauma" in Derision, were consequences due to resetting time so many times to help Marinette. It would have been a cool meta-joke. It was also a wasted opportunity that they didn't reference the birthday gift (the scarf) to make Marinette realize that lying to Adrien is for his own good. (Although, if we learned anything from Smallville with Lana Lang; it's that lying to protect someone always backfires so badly)

[@LyraValley]

This was a good one, but of course Adrien/Cat Noir wasn't involved in any way. Go figure. And she is so wrong for not having told Adrien the truth, but at least Tikki and Plagg weren't telling her that she did the right thing when she asks them. Also, I would have really liked to know what Lila's wish was.

[@-lee-6282]

20:19 i love that you said the "don't let the nostalgia goggles blind you" because i genuinely think that the reason why the new animation is so hated is purely just because of nostalgia. i personally, as someone who loves animation and plans to be an animator in the future, love the new animation, there was so many things to say about the animation, how the animation of some scenes didn't make sense like one where marinette is on a scooter and her bag flies but he jacket doesn't???? and there was so many other scenes too, and objectively, the og animation just isn't thaaaaattt pretty- on top of that i learned that one of the reasons was that the other animation used a really old software that made it take much longer to make compared to the new one sooooooo it just makes it easier for everyone really ! also just objectively the new animation is genuinely beautiful, all the shadows and lights are themselves to much better than in the old animation, i just love it way too much rn x) i also heard some stuff about how some people are mad about the new designs, but holy shit the marinette one was long overdue, i've been fighting with myself since the beginning trying to convince myself that her outfit was nice and that i liked it but goddamn it just did not feel right, the vibe of it was a yes, the execution was a no, it always felt weird both with marinette and gabriel agreste how much i tried to convince myself that they weren't bad KNOWING THAT ONE IS A FASHION DESIGNER AND THE OTHER PLANS TO BE ONE....... and now i am LOVING this new design, hell the detail i saw of the button of her shorts being a flower????? i LOVE it. the few other re-designs i've seen are also pretty, to me they really did the characters justice now, it fits so much better with them!!

[@sabamacharashvili6233]

Best part about this special is that lila did all that jsut with butterfly miraculous, she had no technology except for those smart watches, no money back up, no help from anyone, and no extra information, she just used butterfly miraculous well and almost won

[@Mightymewing360]

Which brings up the question how can she do and even know all about this like is she like vandel savage or is she even human at all what if she is something else in general something ancient

[@shahmeerchoudhary6846]

Finally more accurate content how long had it been

[@watermelon3266]

12:29 remember the construction vest that Alex gave mari so that they would know she was the current timeline ladybug? Yeah I assume that ladybug adopted that idea into her suit for the same purpose (especially since we don’t really see her as mari much) and chromo means time so that suit (her time suit) would be chronobug Heavy on the “I think” though

[@byetoxic2658]

Pretty sure the costume is yellow with reflective dots cuz the ladybug outfit was combined with that neon yellow jacket

[@Thatanticapitalist]

Wow. Its actually been a year since S5 ended. Feel's weird

[@ajaymlbtv]

it sucks that we don't see explicitly the way Lila/Cerise took the butterfly miraculous, and Thomas' responds towards that topic makes me feel disappointed, since this show is always puts many little attention to details as possible, especially for Marinette herself.

[@beezybee64257]

EEEYYYHEYYY I watched the London Special day before yesterday and was immediately excited for your review on it!! Cuz I thought the special was ACTUALLY pretty good and it especially felt refreshing there were a bit less words being said to let the emotions sink more

[@SonicSpeedGaming759]

I think it would be cool if Adrian finds out at the end of season 6 and then joins Lila with a darker suit and in season 7 is when he comes back

[@hampter7188]

then Marinette will have to gather all the heroes to fight Lila and evil Adrian

[@SonicSpeedGaming759]

@@hampter7188 It should also be that only Cat Noirs identity is revealed to Marinette, that would raise the tension, like Marinette would be trying to figure out how bring him back to light while also being told by Nathalie to tell him she's Ladybug believing that Adrien will listen to her if he knew, but Marinette being Marinette she would let her anxiety get the better of her.

[@Mightymewing360]

@SonicSpeedGaming759 He’ll betray Lila like let’s be honest who would trust her I say backstab her when you have the chance

[@SonicSpeedGaming759]

@@Mightymewing360 In that moment he would work with her to get Ladybugs miraculous to wish Gabriel back, so it's not that he trusts her, he just doesn't trust Ladybug anymore

[@Mebro-m6d]

I don't think Adrien will team up with a super villain. Especially with Lila. What? He will escape from a liar to another, bigger liar? Who is a super villain and tried to capture miraculous? But I think the team can split. Some of the heroes will think Ladybug is in the right or understand the reasoning in her choice to lie, and stay with her. While some of them will think Chat Noir is right and leave the team with him. I think this makes more sense. Like "we have the same goal but we can't trust to someone who lied to whole world. I don't want you to be my leader anymore."

[@adambump5297]

I enjoy Miraculous Ladybug & Cat Noir but I'm also critical of it for certain choices but this definitely was a step in the right direction taking a more mature & dark turn by finally having Marinette look inward to confront herself to face the mistakes she made while trying to deal with the weight of her guilt it definitely felt sort of like a really good Spider-Man story line.

[@acegill852]

The new suit color is supposed to be so Alex knows it’s present time ladybug I think. Like a way to make sure she can keep track of ladybug through these timelines, without mixing her up for the past ladybug

[@ZiggyZero_]

its crazy that they only have good supersuits in the specials Lila's new hawkmoth suit is more more disguising than any of the suits in the show It covers all the hair and the eyes and I even think it might change the voice but I don't think she spoke in the special. They should honestly make more suits like that.

[@ZiggyZero_]

also the eyes kind of remind me of spidey and Deadpool but blue

[@yashenumulla4068]

We don't seee herr outfit as the new hawk moth. Both those outfits are her as different akumatized villains.

[@yashenumulla4068]

​@@ZiggyZero_oh yeah even I thought that, especially with Timestalker.

[@Allthingsasian]

I wonder if Gabriel dying is something that happens in every universe kind of like with Emilie. Makes me think if Betterfly dies in the reverse universe and the fallout of that- I mean I imagine reverse Adrien would be a lot more volatile and angry if his dad died compared to the reaction of our Adrien.

[@Ominvus]

AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT SEES THE BIGGEST PLOTHOLE EVER! Nathalie and Gaberial were Akumatized more than once before and still REMEMBERS! It has bugged the hell out of me. Also, Tomoe was also Akumatized more than once as well and I am sure that once she joined Gaberial, she remembered what she has done. But mostly Gaberial Akumatized himself and remembered and rehashed old villain forms before. So why is it that Lila is the only one that can't remember shit?!😠Don't get me wrong, I love for her to lose but COME ON!

[@ReginaMacKenzie1994]

Yep I noticed it too; we can consider it a retcon.

[@pikathemimikyu6655]

I likes the speical. However, the fact that Adrien/Cat Noit yet again got completely screwed over is just really annoying and brought it down a lot for me.

[@kerrygligorovic9758]

I still don't know Lila/Cerise's goal and why she wanted the both Ladybug & Cat Noir's Miraculous but I am definately right that she will become the next Hawkmoth now that Gabriel Agrest is gone forever.

[@the13thgoogler]

I didn't like this special honestly. Miraculous Time Travel Broke my brain and it somehow felt low stakes compared to the other specials despite the opposite. I dunno, it just feels like a regular episode, maybe a two parter, instead of a movie special. Also, where's the London part?

[@ishashifar]

I kind of wondered the same thing the other specials atleast had Ladybug and Cat Noir either visit to New York and Shanghai for the specials to happen or in the case of the Paris special that was meant to signify the alternate universe Paris,but this special didn't really happen in London besides that one moment when Ladybug visits Kagami and Adrien

[@paintingdreams290]

i think it rlly would've been a two part if it werent for the restrictions or the logistics of it being contradicting

[@Ink_Nova]

I completly forgot your channel existed ToT. So happy I re-found you

[@mikinesis]

honestly, this special made me excited for mlb again. i’ve been falling out of the show (and the fandom) since season 4 because the writing, character designs, and romance (at least, the way it was executed) was boring and seemed like they kept throwing plot points or conflicts in to lengthen the show for no reason. but its obvious that this new phase has brought about some serious upgrades. lila being a villian is so exciting because theres so much more cunning ways she can achieve her goal, and she’s not predictable like gabriel. i’m excited for season six, and even though its confirmed that they’re producing until season 9, i just hope that they don’t rush the plot or butcher any of the other characters. i’m on the edge of my seat for season six!

[@reviewsandtheories4941]

And let's hope she's doesn't stay a villain for longer than well two seasons because it'll just be repetitive

[@Mightymewing360]

I think I rather have an alien overlord then some dumb lucky 14 yr old brat as a villain

[@mikinesis]

@@Mightymewing360 alien overlord? i’m sorry, i don’t think i understand which character you’re referencing lol

[@Mightymewing360]

@mikinesis None really just an alien overlord unless we wanna do something that’s close to frieza or darkseid also it’s not like aliens can’t exist if we have real superheroes heck I think the kiwami might be aliens themselves Actually now saying all this we can have an alien invasion that comes to earth to take back there kiwami that we’re lost and conquer the planet doing so

[@xv1ouz]

for anyone confused and didn't get what 17:34 scene meant let me explain, so at that point lila still doesn't know ladybug's identity (because chronobug has been stopping her obviously) but she knows adrian was at london but she didn't know ladybug was going there because she never mentioned it, and if you remember at the beginning of the episode the lights were still on, BUT she already knew ladybug's identity at that point so what that scene was for is to make us think, "why was she there in the first place" if she already knew ladybug's identity. was she going to tell adrien everything that happened since she hates marinette, ladybug, and adrien so did she wanted to get revenge on all of them ON TOP of stealing the miraculous' later that night. i think that was her plan but then bugnoir showed up and maybe that ruined her planned, so she left and went back with the original plan of just stealing the miraculous (and she will mostly like try again and tell adrien later in s6). i think i was the only one who understood this scene but lmk (i tried my best to explain this because it's very complicated)

[@dabest8777]

But why would she even know where exactly Adrien is? Unless Gabriel’s secret files included this place I don’ know how she could’ve possibly found it, also if that was her plan, you would think she would teleport to inside Adrien’s room but I digress

[@yashenumulla4068]

Didn't she go to London because Nathalie mentioned they are trapped there? And since she knew Bug Noire will come, she just waited over there, but Chronobug did not realise that and was shocked to discover that when she went there earlier, she was being observed.

[@savannahvictor8819]

Omg thank you!! I was so confused why she was so pressed but that makes so much sense!!

[@skymmac]

a line I liked was when she was like "woah that feels like 10 years ago" which, for us it was. For them it was like, within a year

[@launacyko4523]

Chronobug's suit is yellow because Bunnyx has previously gotten Marinette to wear a yellow life jacket while in the burrow to ensure that she can distinguish between present day Marinette and the Marinette(s) from other timelines. Marinette suddenly transforming into Ladybug with her normal suit would defeat that purpose. Also, I'm pretty sure that Chronobug decided to call herself that because she changed her suit colour specifically for the reason I've mentioned above. It's like how Rena Rouge decided to change her suit colour in order to fulfill a specific role and called herself Rena Furtive to reflect that.

[@gryficowa]

15:14 There was actually a comic where she goes to the kitchen with this slingshot and meets Adrien, I love the fandom

[@twinyang1770]

buggachat mention outside of tumblr holy shit

[@Bmo.Player]

Lila didn't need to see how to make the wish because she already have that information because of her time as Hoaxer in revelation

[@user-dv8cj1rm3w]

It was the worst episode in Miraculous. Adrien was pushed aside, and the entire episode was for Marinette to sympathize with. How can I sympathize with her when she prevented Natalie from surrendering herself to prison?? She helped Gabrielle, even if she changed in season 5. This does not prevent her previous mistakes and helping the criminal. She should have gone to prison. Poor boy, Adrien. He does not deserve this gorilla guard and his aunt Amelie. They were not evil and did not help the evil one. He is not alone, and let us not forget her lie to Adrien. Well, I understood that she cannot tell him, but everyone told her that this was a mistake, and look what she said. “Ladybug bears the truth.” She told her coldly, to hide that his father was evil and that he was a monster of feelings, and that we should follow suit. She was a former villain and an assistant to a criminal. How do you want me not to hate her?? And also Cat Noir, who stood by her side and trusted her throughout their journey. Can’t she tell him a secret once in her life? Marinette ruined Adrien’s life forever.💔😭

[@josratubangura]

Oh gosh, you deleted your previous comment and switched accounts again huh?

[@user-dv8cj1rm3w]

What are you talking about?? True, I remembered that you are one of the defenders of Marinette's obsessive, stalker, and hypocritical character who destroyed Adrien's life​@@josratubangura

[@josratubangura]

@@user-dv8cj1rm3wUm because you are the same person just using a different account….i know this because you just deleted your previous comment under the name Elsa__ miss me with that bullshit bruh

[@josratubangura]

@@user-dv8cj1rm3woh yeah and I’m a PROUD MARI STAN 🤪🤪

[@user-dv8cj1rm3w]

​@@josratubanguraBecause you are crazy like her

[@Pixzeh]

Time travel is so confusing also bcz young bunnix said that one day she would look into the futer to see granny bunnix's moves in the chess game or whatever they played which means that there is a burrow to the burrow which makes no sense bcz the burrow is a place not effected by time and you could live there for 100 years when no time passes in the real world. Also, I think they should've named the special: Miraculous Universe: At the Edge of Time. Bcz of the burrow and time or whatever. And about the yellow suit, it makes no sense but looks good. Probably another Rena Furtive Situation. Also about timestalker when chronobug says "they where always there bunnix" that makes no sense because timestalker would not have to go to the facility if chronobug was not there to stop them when they were at the mansion so again time travel makes no sense in mlb.

[@thebreezybigt]

10:40 "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey, stuff." Basically, within the burrow, time happens all at once, whether it makes sense or not for the linear progression of history.