Pretty Good for a Consolation Prize - FGO Charlemagne Servant Guide

Missed Summer Okita Alter? Well, you might be in luck, because Charlie's got a similar gameplan.
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[@blakeisthebeast]

72 swords for skill level 8 is pain

[@reddithirumuri5479]

Just wait for the summer Valkyrie’s

[@t_raywen8750]

That is actually insanity

[@TheBPP24]

Yeah, mine won't be getting to 10/10/10 any time soon lol

[@zaddyuwu9720]

I already got two skills 10/10

[@jaddentanks]

I know feeling brother

[@enfyrneaux]

As a direct descendant of Charlemagne, I figured I'd be a passable catalyst. Nope, ten Kriemhilds and a Roland before Charlie showed up.

[@barneypurple3435]

It kinda makes sense that Charlie's Stack gimmick has higher buff stack rate than Super Bunyan's because of it initially harder to pull off because you need the enemy to hit him until the Rank Up buff while Super Bunyan is on a Passive and can be activated whenever she attacks or gets hit.

[@blurb9319]

Makes you wish they'd somehow buff Superbunyan's NP to get a higher magnitude on those effects

[@naiRISE766]

@@blurb9319 sad thing is that Lasengle are really not into buffing NPs these days

[@blurb9319]

@@naiRISE766 I mean, they did buff Gawain last anniversary so it’s not impossible

[@perseus9535]

Buff Bunyan gang all the way. Even if they don't want to buff the amount she gets per stack for "balance" (like if they actually care about that), they can increase the max stack count and increase the amount of time she has the stacks for. That'd be a solid start to getting her to be good

[@ivanbluecool]

Me:(hugging my Jason) I will never replace you. Jason: HERACLES HELP

[@blurb9319]

Jason post buff is still far and away the most accessible Arts AOE farming saber in the game and can do surprisingly decent damage for a 1 star. He's nothing amazing but he works for what he is, especially when grailed.

[@orga7777]

@@blurb9319 That is because there aren't that many AOE Arts Sabers at all and all are either 5 star Limited servants or Limited/Story Locked 4 stars who are not that great in general themselves. Outside of Muramasa and Takeru, the rest have weak gains or in Shiki and Nero's case, a one hit NP which obviously won't refund. There just are not many options. There are only 6 AOE Arts Sabers in the entire game in JP right now and we in NA have five of them with only Takeru missing. If you can roll for Muramasa, that is probably the premium option until Takeru over a year from now shows up. Jason is probably fine as a budget option with some grails.

[@blurb9319]

@@orga7777 That is a big part of his viability yeah but his np upgrade also helped in patching up his damage issues to the point where he can actually be a proper farmer in level 90 farming. With grails he can even be slotted into a team with Dioscuri (though admittedly the team is still really jank and a second Castoria is obviously better).

[@pedropablotobon1017]

​@@blurb9319similar to Inshun and Orion. Ofc Orion is just WAY STRONGER and better but thanks to the mighty chain and extra attack append skill, Inshun can be one of the most useful NP spammer and crit dmg dealers in the game alongside Billy *"BEGONE!"* The Crit- i mean Kid

[@eldritchumbra9834]

Funnily enough Jason was my only surviving unit in the Kriemhild boss fight. He killed her on with a mere 1K HP remaining.

[@QyTheQTpi]

"Which flavor of amazing AOE Saber do you prefer? We have Chocolate Summer Breeze or Cool Emperor's Adventure."

[@IchigoShinagami]

I chose both ^^

[@GrandScheme89]

I'll be real. I went into the banner for Charlie. I wanted my bud from Extella Link, loved his story too much.

[@halobat64]

Same.

[@t_raywen8750]

I went into the banner for the goth. Got charli and nightingale instead. Not disappointed though

[@GrandScheme89]

@t_raywen8750 id say it was a good trade, especially if it was your first nightingale

[@Fureiji88]

All your complaints about him actually do have an explanation and that's just die to the fact that he's a paladin. Paladins don't really put saving themselves over others and that's the general idea for his kit. He's an attacker with the option to defend himself but that would be breaking the paladin oath and leads to him suffering consequences for it. As for old man rex... Yeah unless you have a fetish for old men with a sister complex given how extella played out especially given they basically turned Europe's founder and dad into the bad guy I think people rolling for Charlie has more to do with the fact people enjoyed his actual character rather than whether he provides anything to take seriously for gameplay uses. At least that's what I've seen pop up as people's reasons for rolling for Charlie.

[@RyanVonAegir]

Considering I got np4 Charlie trying to get NP1 Kreimhild, maybe I should use him.

[@quagsiren7782]

Bro I got NP5 Charles with NO SPOOKS, and no Kriemhild. ;-;

[@ivanbluecool]

Tou-chan who is disappointed in his crossing dressing kid

[@kyawminkhant2165]

LoL, It's funny how people are treating Charlie's banner like it's Kriemhild's banner

[@tim-myton6361]

I pretty much did, somehow got 4 of him and only 1 of her. Along with 3 Rolands. AHHHHH!!

[@vollied4865]

I've waited so long for Charlie and I feel like he was designed for an unorthodox Castoria skadi hybrid comp so I'm hoping whenever we finally start seeing more end game content Charlie will see some niche play

[@blurb9319]

Gonna be honest, even as someone who does genuinely run mixed support comps like Merlin and Tamamo/Castoria, regular Skadi just does not work well with the current existing supports. While Gate of Skye does provide a bit of defensive value and some extra crit damage it doesn't provide nearly as much value as something like Garden of Avalon or Around Caliburn. Keeping her on the field feels like more of a chore after her skills are depleted when compared to other supports for that very reason. I imagine that a Skadi Castoria setup will still let Charlie barrel over most basic nodes and even some CQs but it won't be his best team.

[@harrya9458]

@@blurb9319what about Summer Skadi?

[@blurb9319]

@@harrya9458 Eh, summer Skadi can arguably be run alongside Koyan of Light I guess? I’ve never tried it but if you don’t have a normal Skadi she could be used as a plug support I guess

[@84cmart]

@@harrya9458 Summer Skadi’s mixed Buster/Quick charisma makes her decent for multi-core quick/buster teams. I typically run her w/ Oberon as the other support.

[@vollied4865]

​@@blurb9319 my apologies for the late reply, KZbin notis be weird, but I meant summer Skadi and I def should've specified that, with Castoria and summer Skadi he gets a rainbow buff and has a stupid amount of np gain but I still need to test it unfortunately I burned too many apples on summer so it'll have to wait til lottery in November

[@barneypurple3435]

Invincibility from Charlie or from other characters that Invincibility skill like Mash's will trigger Charlie's Demerit so use the skill before you put any Invincibility on him.

[@briannguyen6248]

Good luck for NP6 Moriarty! I got np6 Charlie and just here cause I like listening to analysis about one of my favorite characters.

[@xanthosamoni2072]

Two copies of Charlie and two of Kriemhild. I'm having a good time.

[@AdeptRougeOfHorus]

We're having a ball. Don't stop us now.

[@Flaris]

Charlie is nice. Funny how I ended up with both him and Okita Alter Summer (although she's at NP2). Interesting to see how his stack mechanics work and how his kit will turn out in the future. This definitely screams out that Quick really needs a meta support more geared towards long fights.

[@IchigoShinagami]

"You're Not Okitan!" I have both and they are good friends >~

[@unova1995]

I was saving up for Charlie and I got him on my first 10 pull, I love this dude so much

[@mr.shadow8812]

ama be honest I just want him cause he looks cool. That’s it

[@88Somi]

Me after spending all my SQs and tickets for one copy of angry goth girl and ended with NP2 Charlemange Ok..... -_-"

[@reddithirumuri5479]

If you want something you usually get the the other thing which you don’t want

[@orb1611]

Literally my exact same situation, I'm so annoyed

[@plantedrabbit3]

Welcome to the club haha. Ive actually been using him a good bit with kriem, and they work pretty well together, with charlie giving her 2 hits of invul, she can hit him with a target focus to get the noble king stacks up

[@conorkirbymacguill]

this is a video i know i’ll keep coming back to so i can make the best of the charlies that accosted me on the road to kriemhild

[@ilmaripajola4387]

Was going for np2 Kriemhild, used over 1200sq and got np1 Kriemhild and np5 Charlie, desire sensor kills in FGO!

[@SavageDroppinDaBeats]

While aiming for Kriemhilds (I wanted at least np3) I ended up with 5 Charlies lmao. I already had np2 SmOkitan so that’s that. Also one thing I think you forgot to mention that sets Okita a bit ahead of Charlie at equal np levels is her preemptive defensive buff purge which is nice in challenge quests.

[@kingjgamer5977]

I wish the king buff activated when the enemy attacked the servant you decided to protect, still inconsistent but less inconsistent.

[@FatalityPWN]

I pulled him the day he came out on my bday lol. Just threw him 1 multi for the fun of it.

[@daullee939]

I have to admit, I was not expecting to get Charlie on my Kriem rolls And while I probably won’t spend any more quartz on the Kriem banner, I’ll probably put my Charlie to really good use

[@skycladobserver9246]

I have Okitan so I passed on rolling on him to save SQ for on the more important servants, namely Summer Skadi and Lady Avalon.

[@SirBufon]

Got 3 copies of him while rolling for Krim (including a double 5* roll). How many Krim's I got? Zero, worst 500 SQ of my life lmao even got spooked by a Tamamo caster in the process. Even worst? LAst year I rolled for NP3 Sumer Chokita cuz she is my beloved. I'm feeling so defeated lmao but I'm glad he gets kinda usable going forwards

[@MoonlightReaper14]

While I was rolling for Kriemhild my FIRST multi got me roland FOLLOWED by charles himself! I was floored, then while I spent more resources into the banner, I got another charles merge. I was like "whelp I can skip summer okitan now"

[@amai2307]

Wrong. she is much better waifu, than charlie.

[@professorkhepri]

spent so much sq on this guy and ended up with NP 2 Kriem, NP 4 Roland, and some random xiang yu who doesnt even have a rate up

[@kenkaneki2202]

Damn guess I'm a lunatic because I have limit broke poster girl but in my defense that very early in my fgo life I had not known multiple copies were better lol

[@TenebraeXVII]

I got 4 and 4 between Charlie and Kriemhild so I'm quite happy, and I even threw some grails at both of them

[@StarlightDreamDolls]

So. For mats/qp cost investment, which is better to build, NP1 Okitan or NP2 Charlie? Charlie then because I've had two copies? I got them both trying to roll 4 stars lol.... (Sadly, no Kriem.) I'm mostly thinking of using them to farm so, yeah. I have Skadi, dunno if I'll get summer Skadi, it will highly depend on how Lady Avalon treats me.

[@epicmarschmallow5049]

The good news is I managed to luck into a copy of every new servant without too big a SQ hit. The bad news is I now need to grind out a billion different mats to level their skills properly

[@Jest2795]

I have NP1 of him after trying to get Krim.

[@AriWazNotHere]

Nah Fino I def went out of my way to pull Charlie. I love my Germanic...uh...French...Roman Emperor. ❤ Grailed to 100 the moment I could get those blasted daggers.

[@MinniMaster]

Three copies of Charlie and no Kriemhilds. I’m watching this video almost exclusively out of spite.

[@Pomho1812]

Got him before getting my Kriemhild so it's not the worst. Hopefully i can get him NP2 in the next GSSR (or i'll forsake it all and try for Okuni)

[@Inriri]

I will always celebrate another reason to use Miss Crane

[@mythicalskeleton1546]

A very big pain pulling him just to see he requires a ton of the new materials so you won't get much use of him for a while

[@YoshiFan007]

I got Charl and two Rolands by accident while just trying to get a single Kriem, and failing 😭

[@Setanta69]

Okitan is still available on jp until the 6th of june i believe.

[@eldritchumbra9834]

Funnily enough I got Charlie on my first roll on his banner.

[@Savitar_G.O.S]

Can anyone recommend me a servant that can use target focus on allies. So I use Charlemagne np properly.

[@naiRISE766]

A really expensive option is probably level 1 Odysseus. You target his first skill on Skadi so Odysseus and Charle gets taunted. Odysseus explodes instantly because he's level 1 and now only Charle is left with the taunt. That skill also buffs quick.

[@amandusan4821]

first one was consolation prize, third one I thrown the phone

[@Areuils]

Feels bad because I went for np5 Charlemagne and got him and np5 Kriem in 700sq

[@TheStuffEnjoyer]

Yeap. I 100% agree. Charley is no Okitan~(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠) And not many Seervants let you kill your enemies as a literal baby kekekeke! Oh the horror! (Looking at you Baby Caren and Baby Rengoku)

[@Matthew1220]

Got three Roland's one krimhield and no Charly 😢

[@dontworryboutit7120]

Yeah you know I got some of him at my disposal… hell, I didn’t even get Kreimhild in the first place man I’m pissed

[@lancerclassbestclass9954]

couldnt get him, god damn 2 copies of kreim and anastasia😢 now to save up all comming and anni sq for skadi

[@AoiLucine]

I managed to get all three on the first Traum banner on one full pack. After using a second pack to get Don Quixote early, I decided to try for np2 Kriem Kriem... And got NP 2 Charlie. 😅

[@dragonmasterlance4010]

8:38 Left ass gang!

[@dicedonion464]

He should be grand saber I'll die on this hill

[@comicsans8994]

400 SQ 20 tickets What I got?? My first ever black Grail and Heaven feels Helena NP3 Kriemhild Np2 charlie ( in the same and last multi) And a bunch of useless CES Well i would say it great win + i have 100 SQ and 34 tickets left so i have to farm again 😅

[@AssailantAttacker]

When I rolled for krem and saw a saber gold card, I always pray that it's Roland 😂 I really don't like to get a useless np 1 copy of charly, I rather have a np2 or 3 Roland lol

[@TrapConnoisseur.]

Ok so. Charlemagne 2 Luvia 2 Rama 1 Penth 1 Herk 1 Nightingale 1 (rainbow) Kriemhild 0 All of that from only 300 sq . And it still is a 300 sq wasted

[@spmive]

What a nice vid

[@kingjgamer5977]

I got three Charlies and no Krimhield...

[@amai2307]

Cream gets two more solo banners soon. One with Brunhildr this winter, and one more with Wanjina next autumn.

[@mattshepherd3667]

I wish I could trade you

[@kingjgamer5977]

@@mattshepherd3667 ...I did it... I finally got Kriemhild!

[@mattshepherd3667]

@@kingjgamer5977 congrats. I got np2 krim now and finally got Charles now.

[@WilliamSutton1987]

Can someone explain to me how I got Charlemagne, Don Quixote, AND Jang Zue... ON THE SAME PULL!?

[@blurb9319]

That’s explicitly impossible as Don Quixote is on the Moriarty banner and is story locked. I think you’re misremembering.

[@kido2562]

I was doing the funny scam button to try and get Krim and managed to get np 2 Charlie Thats cool i guess

[@LoDDestroyer]

I'm thoroughly conflicted because I actually like the way they experimented with his kit, but I'm not a huge fan of the Kingdom Hearts OC design with the keyblade laser show NP when the version that summons a church themed super robot with mortar shoulders was right there. I get that this design and personality set meshes better with his paladins but I still get a bit disappointed...

[@kenkaneki2202]

Nah I'd still go okitan summer all the way when I get her lol waifu always

[@jeffreyherrera5069]

Tried rolling for him. No Charlie the Main (Character) for me for the foreseeable future 😔

[@7highstraight]

My best quick support is Hime! What am I supposed to do with 4 Charlies?

[@AdeptRougeOfHorus]

Pray to God you get Summer Skadi.

[@blurb9319]

He really wants to be in a Skadi team but he works better in slow teams than most quick servants so using him as a crit beatstick with generic supports or hime isn’t awful.

[@khuntsunagi7573]

Don Quixote video when

[@thefool8224]

oh yea, he definitely is a byproduct

[@sonicchaos-ir9kw]

The damage he scores from successive NPs is insane in bosses

[@ncrnmcn]

Pulling for Kriemheld gave me Europa at first, and then Charlie

[@lordtea]

Tbh some of his skill quite messed up for solo

[@imawhale8173]

LETS GOOO

[@skin1195]

I just want one copy of Kriemheld Now I have NP 2 Charlemagne from single pulls... No Kriemheld yet 😖

[@thesaltyweeb]

Wanted Kaguya-sama but got King Charlie the consolation prize... Hey at least its better than NP2 Roland! ...damn Roland

[@Zero_9875]

Honestly i don't care about charle Okitan all the way!

[@hunterh1998]

Well since I somehow got np4 (was trying for goth berserker) I’m gonna use him no matter what lmao