Pretty Impressive! 2024 300xcw First Ride Review

[@TrailBoundco]

This is my GF's bike I got to test, what model TBI do you think I should get? I cant decide

[@BAYAREAMX]

I want you to get an XC but for what you ride, the xcw is the way to go. Better stator for fan and lights, no linkage to destroy or get hung up when you’re smashing into rocks and smoother power. I’d say a remap and maybe a head and you’re dialed!

[@BehindBarsEnduro]

I tried a Husqvarna TE300 TBI -- which should run like the EXC/XC-W models -- yesterday and it's mapped waaaaaay too soft in my opinion. If we got the XC models here in Europe I'd probably be looking at that, but for now we only get the EXC and SX for two strokes.

[@TrailBoundco]

@@BehindBarsEnduro I've always wondered why you guys cant get the XC models I believe it's only USA and AUS. problem with the XC is its mapped way to much so I guess either way gonna get a TSP running on it

[@BehindBarsEnduro]

@@TrailBoundco Yeah I’m guessing it’s about environmental regulations. We seem to get a few 125 XC, but that’s about it. What’s your opinion on the feeling of the weight on this bike? I find that my bike, a -19 TPI, could drop a few kilos. And the generation after that one feels spot on to me. The TBI generation almost feels too light to me. 😬 Perhaps a heavier fly wheel and mouses would fix that.

[@WASemiHardEnduro]

Seems like the TE would be the best choice - I prefer the linkage myself, it sits a bit lower (tho the PDS keeps improving each year). Maybe throw on a med-comp head if you want more snap off the bottom.

[@PNWEnduro]

I rode one yesterday with the sag not set as well and I also found it tall. I think once the sag is set it will feel a lot better in terms of ride height, I'm the same weight as you.

[@ThrottleNectar]

Been on mine for 2 weeks, found with the new generation ktm running more sag then usual, im about 113mm. Thats the sweet spot so far!

[@LBRides]

I could watch this all day!

[@codyrrussell]

Thanks man, I had the same exact thoughts. I went with the TX 300. Great height and ergo

[@avz46]

I bought the 24 TE300pro and have ridden the 24TX300 and found the tx to be too jumpy on slippery turns where is the te is smoother and easier to maintain traction. The TX is significantly louder so dont let the quiet TE/XCW exhaust fool you with where the bike is with the RPM and power curve. You do have to twist the throttle more if you want to apply more power. It is like the first half of the throttle is really dumbed down, but over half really jumps to life just fine. The TE/XCW pulls really well and controlled at really low rpm without spinning out much.

[@donttrustnobody]

Just curious, how tall are you? Im 5’10” been running for about a year and a half on a KX250F motor cross bike beating my self up on the trails but I want to move to a trail bike. I feel like the hight of the bike might have set me back a little but just curious.

[@Haroold127]

do you mind sharing whats best gearing for this freakin bike? 13/50?

[@JakeAfkos]

what start/ kill switch do you have

[@jacobdewey2003]

Get a ride on a husky te with linkage now so we can see all the tbi differences! Great stuff. 👍

[@sancoblanco]

New models are great. Get the HUSQ TE300 2024. Stock, it's lower than the KTM bike (almost 2cm) so it's better for shorter riders. You can also add low seat on it. IMO, husky looks better. Wish I could ride where you are riding, crazy cool trails! Greetings from Norway ✊🏻 Enjoy!

[@TrailBoundco]

where did you see that its shorter? I've been trying to get photos of the 24 xc, xcw and ec to see if the linkage bikes are lower but it doesnt really seem like they are. the older model linkage bikes were always much shorter than the pds bikes though

[@doukanylmaz5789]

@@TrailBoundco I just bought Husqy 2024 TE, it is defiantly shorter. Actually that is the reason I changed the order from KTM to Husqy.

[@TrailBoundco]

@@doukanylmaz5789 oh interesting is it shorter than the KTM XC which has the linkage? or just shorter than the XCW with PDS

[@endurokenya2306]

my XC 2023 came 954mm tall while I believe XC-W come at 970mm (not sure about the new 24 platform though)@@TrailBoundco

[@smashedhulk8492]

Husky has the shorter seat stock, hence the height difference.@@TrailBoundco

[@avz46]

My last 2T was a 17 XCW 300 and I did do the SX300 head and cdi. Kept the head and went back to stock cdi as it started better and ran really nice down low. Will probably do the same to my TE300pro, just bump up compression a little.

[@TrailBoundco]

Oh I never tried the stock ecu on my bike just the sx one that came with my 250 to 300 cylinder kit. I do have a tsp high comp had though and very high head for northern summer rides

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

Does it come with the faster action throttle cam? Does it default to the traction map if no map switch installed?

[@TrailBoundco]

someone said it defaults to soft map without the map switch but I thought in the past it was actually the opposite

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

@@TrailBoundco Yeah it was opposite before. On my EC300 the dealer said it defaults to full map, or I could get a map switch or unplug the connecter under the tank to put in Soft all the time.

[@onthethrottle7104]

@@TrailBoundcoaccording to a very recent video by Kyle (Dirt Bike Channel) he took the map switch from his 24 XC and installed it on the 24 XCW. When he started the XCW the thing showed it's in the green map by default. FYI. Here is the vid kzbin.infoUI5lr27KX_A?feature=share

[@danegreer2270]

Put a different cam in the throttle and it makes a big difference!

[@onthethrottle7104]

Looks like you gelled with the bike really well - is momma getting her bike back😉

[@seanwahl1000]

Is that delay possibly from the throttle cable being too loose? Every new bike I've gotten it's too loose and I have to tighten it up so that there's no hesitation.

[@TrailBoundco]

I dont think so because thats literally the first thing I did to the bike when she unloaded it haha. so much slack in those things stock for some reason

[@BraaapoholicBob]

Maybe consider Slavens Mule Head for a little more snappiness?

[@geoffgeoffbrown]

From the KTM website it looks like the seat height on the xcw is approx 10 mm taller than the xc. I think you’re supposed to setup the PDS with 10 mm more sag though (110 mm on the xcw as opposed to 100 mm on the xc). So the seat height difference should more or less cancel out once you set rider sag shouldn’t it?

[@TrailBoundco]

could you link me to the seat height for the 24xcw? I'm only seeing that spec mentioned in the XC page for some reason www.ktm.com/en-us/models/enduro/2-stroke/ktm-300-xc-w-2024.html www.ktm.com/en-us/models/cross-country/2-stroke/ktm-300-xc-2024.html

[@geoffgeoffbrown]

@@TrailBoundco if you choose a euro version of the KTM site they give you the seat height. For some reason not on the Canadian or US site e.g www.ktm.com/en-no/models/enduro/2-stroke/ktm-300-exc-2024.html

[@geoffgeoffbrown]

Scroll down to the chassis section and click “show all”

[@TheKitchenTechnician]

The whole throttle thing is weird. When I ride my friends fuel injected KTM’s, they’re all the same with that soft initial pickup. Not crispy. No chance of whisky throttling it like my Beta 300 RR carby bike. I will agree that the suspension is amazing! Rear just soaks up everything! It’s like friggin magic!

[@TrailBoundco]

yeah I'm not sure whats up with that, we dont have a power valve anymore, you can usually spice it up with that

[@outfitr9703]

Man, my set up '18 carb has almost too much initial pick up and whiskey throttle is very possible. However I'm also able to lug the heck out of it in almost any gear. Not sure these newer bikes have much advantage.

[@TrailBoundco]

@@outfitr9703 yeah its hard to beat my light 2018 carb bike but theres something really nice about a 0 hour bike..

[@grutzmac]

Put a xc throttle cam on. Shorter pull for the boys

[@nightrider4370]

The clutching may be due to the high gearing.

[@mikebarger3563]

You might check your throttle cam. If its the gray one, I'd swap it with the black one for a quicker turn throttle.

[@thesmoness]

Mine came with gray one installed but a white in the extras bag not black - any ideas ?

[@danegreer2270]

The white one is the the more responsive cam

[@mikebarger3563]

Yes the white is the shortest throttle throw of the three.

[@TrailBoundco]

yeah might need to try the shorter cam or map switch. I wish I could adjust the power valve like the old bikes

[@Smiling_mike]

Nice!

[@panic-revv85]

Tsp has mapping updates

[@motoenduro8585]

Yeah we're praying attention.. you meant 2024

[@mixalis6168]

Good power, yet another reviewer stated it had no power !

[@TrailBoundco]

yeah I saw that not sure if he got a dud or just trying to stir the pot but this bike feels like its got some good power to me especially the mid and top

[@CoRQc]

I am not a fan of the 13/45 gearing on my 24 xcw.

[@TrailBoundco]

what did you change it to?

[@CoRQc]

@@TrailBoundco 12/45 work much better for type of trails I ride. I might try a 13 / 49 or 50 for the really tight technical hilly trails

[@thesmoness]

@@TrailBoundcoI went 12/46 and it keeps the exact same wheelbase as stock and feels good. Btw the bike is in soft map by default pull the dongle out behind the number plate until you get a map switch

[@bevinjohnson1003]

2022? You meant 2024 though.

[@TrailBoundco]

@@thesmoness oh really it comes in the the soft map? in the past I always thought adding a map switch allows you to go in a softer mode

[@petebusch9069]

Seems like your never really in the powerband much.

[@TrailBoundco]

I think that’s more how these modern 2 strokes are, much smoother in general

[@geoffboyd]

They need to put a two finger easy/light pull clutch lever on these bikes