2024 KTM 790 Adventure Review | High Performance for Less Money

[@BigRockMoto]

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[@DB-sd3cw]

Yup. Not a fan of slave labor

[@BlazinBlades]

I’m by sorry I stopped trusting this company a few years ago It doesn’t matter where they manufacture they are just not worthy of my hard earned money.

[@ogasi1798]

it makes no difference to me where a bike is built - if anything the bikes built by CF will be better on QA because they will really be cracking their own whip due to breaking ground and building their brand, they know how the west is and they know not to give excuses or reasons

[@GiosueMannino]

yes, we have to let this new form of corporate communism fail

[@Pocahonkers]

The only reason I don't like this bike being built in China is that it's probably a cost-cutting measure, but at the same time it costs a good 2-3 grand more than its Japanese competitors with KTM service intervals.

[@Angry-Lynx]

Its not camshafts thats the biggest problem of ktm. Its how they handle it, or rather how they put head in sand instead of taking responsibility

[@dg1019]

I'm a dealer. I have sold a ton of 790/890/901 units. I have yet to see a camshaft issue and I have gotten several bulletins form KTM on how to take care of the problem if I see one. If its still in warranty just submit a claim, if its out of warranty just submit a goodwill claim and I will get paid to fix the bikes.

[@casar.704]

@@dg1019 So then explain to me.... My dealer set the claim. Rebuild my engine due to worn cams... I payed all the labour and parts. Parts meant to be refunded to me... It´s already over 6 months and I am still waiting for refund. And dealer keep saying hes waiting for KTM. :-D Sounds like BS to me :-D

[@TheSupasonic82]

@@dg1019 No, you are a random dude on youtube who claims to be a dealer.

[@dg1019]

@@TheSupasonic82 I'm very much a dealer. Been one since 2000

[@TH3G0ODGUY]

@@casar.704 based on how you spell labour im guessing you are not in the US, thats likely the difference. The US has strong warranty laws, KTM likely has to behave better in the US than they do in your country.

[@stephencampbell7405]

😃Thanks! You do such an awesome job with your bike reviews!

[@donnyjackson1908]

Currently 3k miles from home on my 2024 790 ADV. has 7k miles on it now and will have 10k in the next week. It’s had 0 issues so far. Gets 58-60mpg and is comfortable and fast. No complaints so far.

[@Ian.adventure_]

I would just like to say. I have watched many of your videos and find them amazing. You cover the whole topic with great detail. For people that have less bikes to try the videos and information is fantastic. Thank you. 🙏

[@Gatekeeper2007]

Ktm‘s email doesn’t even come close to addressing the scope of the issue. They are correct there is nothing wrong with the camshaft. This has been proven by hardness testing and heat treat testing. However the main oil passage and the main oil jet does not allow proper lubrication for the camshaft, which is destroying the camshaft. This is confirmed by Ktm North America rep. It is also confirmed from Ktm North America rep, that all 790s 890s and 901s duke and adventure have this problem. My 2023 890 adventure R with 2300 miles was in a dealer for the same problem at the same time a 901 was in there for the same issue. The dealer had also confirmed what the Ktm North America rep said this is affecting all bikes, all models globally.

[@BigRockMoto]

Good info - if this is correct, I wonder why KTM is not sending this message out.

[@merzto]

The whole letter: "If your feeling..." lol feelings have nothing to do with a wrecked engine lmao. And everything is "goodwill" - no, it's not. Its warranty and they better honor it but the difference is in accounting and KTM is thight on money right now.

[@ericduncan2283]

@@merzto thats what my thoughts went to as well. completely dodges accountability. class PR spin.

[@Alkumist]

@@BigRockMotodamage control of the brand? Edit: this is a design issue, not a manufacturing issue

[@wacoolidge4]

Mines in the shop getting the replacement parts. Doubt it’ll “fix” the problem. Will dump mine sadly.

[@RandyBB-yz1kq]

Thanks for the informative review Ian, well done! This 790 is my sixth KTM product, no more issues than with any of the four Japanese brand bikes I’ve owned. They have all been good while applying the correct maintenance to them. Without question, the KTM’s offer a larger grin factor than anything else I have owned. I now have over 6500kms on the 790, which has all the Tech Pack, no problems to date. The bike is a true hoot to ride on or off road. You do need to pay attention to the air box if riding in groups in dusty conditions. I run a pre filter and check the air filter after every extreme dusty ride. Suspension, comfort and fuel range work perfect for me and my riding. Love this bike!

[@kickbhack7610]

Perfect timing ! I got quotes from my local dealerships last week for this bike and you have just released this video today 👍As I'll be using it on the road mainly, with some offroad from time to time, it suits my needs perfectly. I think it is the best value for money if you want real performance and electronics. I had a Tenere World Raid before, it was a fantastic bike for offroad use but not so great on the road. Not at all concerned about the camshaft issues or the fact that it is being made by China. Thanks for your review, I am off to sign the contract... 😁

[@MotoGuzziMoto]

This is the thing about owning reliable bikes, we just take reliability for granted and don't even comprehend what it is like to have the bike at the dealer for 3 months, or waiting 6 months for parts.

[@cpuuk]

It took the internet to get KTM to admit it. When Ducati released the Multistrada and that experience cam failure, they went "yup, we have a problem and we will recall all units...".

[@JinKazama92]

lol Ducati is even worse. If you are a motovlogger and talk shit about Ducati you can get sued.

[@brucerossonthetube]

And their response to the Desert-X wheel failure was complete denial. Ducati of 10 years ago was good, but their handling of the wheel issue ( and other issues I had) convinced me to never buy another. My Tuareg is a much better made motorcycle.

[@chrisvito007]

Great work Ian! Great review as always & even better intro! lol!!

[@lele.grazioli]

The new 790 has been out in Europe since 2023. I have 15k km on mine, apart from a small radiator liquid leak (easily solved under warranty) I haven’t experienced any issue so far. Of course I hope I will never have any other isse as I truly love this bike! This is by far the best entry level adventure bike, I can say this because I did everything with it: solo and couple traveling, light and heavy offroad. The engine is superb, comfort is good and no other competitor come even close on electronics.

[@Nostrildomus]

At 15, 000 miles , I'd research Valvoline's Restore' . It's targeting symptoms the factory says needs addressed in there assessments of problems over time . T/C/E

[@cmdogphotography657]

I have the 790 adventure 2023/2024 off road addition. I got it back in march this year and I've put just over 6000 miles on it. So far all running great. Plenty of green laning and I love the bike so much 👌🏻

[@DB-sd3cw]

@@cmdogphotography657 the issue usually happens around 10k miles. Brace yourself when you get around there

[@cmdogphotography657]

@DB-sd3cw if it happens it happens. Nothing I can do now unfortunately, but fingers crossed and thanks for the heads up 👍🏻

[@mikeconforti6820]

85tt has so much going for it. If I was not going off-road much, it would be my very first choice. Great looks, character, reliability, easy to maintain yourself and they can be had for a good price for everything you get.

[@WinifredMulvey]

I agree…I have. 23 V85TT.. 12k miles in 10 months…. Just waiting to experience MG unreliability…… nope…. Bike has been bullet proof

[@JamesBond-gv8yd]

Have mine since march 2024. 12000 km so far and it’s been absolutely flawless. Brilliant motorcycle !

[@ricardorgomez]

Ooooh... You got me interested in the KTM again.... This is such a great bike it seems. I've wanted a KTM for YEARS but it just never happened. I rode a 990 Adventure once when KTM came into town and had a demo day. It was scary fast! Haven't had a bike in over a decade but got to get one. I think 2025 is going to be the year. My two top choices: The Himalayan 450 or KTM 790 Adventure. I love the cost and relative simplicity of the RE. But the KTM is so perfectly designed and I love the looks. It's so perfect I think I could be happy with it for years. In that sense, it would be less expensive to own than the RE. We'll see what happens. Thanks for your great videos!

[@Neil-s4x]

The Yamaha T7 is the same price. It has less power but the Japanese reliability makes up for it

[@richymoto]

Whatever the 790/890s are capable of ... all those reliability issues makes them a no go for me. I would also choose the T700 over the KTMs. An adventure bike first and foremost has to run. A low center of weight or a great suspension is not worth a penny, when your bike is not running and you are far away from the next dealership. Before considering one of those bikes, they would have to rebuild a good reputation over two or three years. Then we can talk again.

[@bpatinas1578]

T7 worst of all worlds.. too heavy for off-road , too slow for the road

[@richymoto]

@@bpatinas1578 Adventure bikes are always a compromise. Of course you could do better on the roead with a Panigale, offroad on a 2-stroke dirtbike and long distance on a Gold Wing. You just have to shrink the two bikes you don't need at the moment and put them in your pocket. Problem solved. BTW - the bike, the video and my comment was about, is 9 kg heavier, than a T700 ;-)

[@Neil-s4x]

I got my T7 out the door with all dealer fees for 10k. It is light enough and has plenty of power. I also don't have to spend an extra 1000 to unlock all the modes. The KTM might be faster and have more features but I am of the philosophy less is more. I think the T7 looks bad ass and has a lot of presence on the road. If I have unlimited funds I would have my T7 as a daily driver and. 1390 super adventure as a toy.

[@CptSlow89]

@@Neil-s4x They need to make T7 less top heavy.

[@grantlingley1385]

Excellent review and great update! Sounds like KTM has attended to the Oiling issue and a few other items as well! A buddy had his 790 engine rebuilt by the dealer back in the day! All cost was cover3d. He has since moved on and picked up a 1290 Adventure and of course loves it! He ridesthe hell out of it both on road tarmac and back road / forest roads. I will have to follow up and confirm his most recent experience!

[@user-cv9my1jq2r]

Thanks Ian. You’re the best and honest. Keep em coming.

[@54zk]

I’ve got 33,000 miles on mine and it runs great. It’s a 2020 and I’ve not received a letter yet

[@drrider1658]

My 2020 adv R is being fixed for eroded cam lobes right now. Whole new head and components that KTM is covering in full so that is the good news (I have a good dealer). IF it is ONLY poor oil delivery and not also a combination of possible metallurgy and or heat treating issues, AND it really is random and most bikes will never be affected, I hope hope hope that the replacement parts will resolve this issue for good. If I have to revisit this same thing in another 3 years, ANGRY will be a gross understatement! I really love the bike otherwise and would hate to become a "Never Again KTM" former owner. Do admit though that the performance bang for buck is great for these bikes.

[@JasonRidesmoto]

800miles on mine and love it so much! Winter in Minnesota is killing me. I put the Mosko Moto Reckless 80 luggage on it!

[@IRLtrolls]

Here is my impression of every 790/890 owner. “Well I put 3,000 miles on my KTM the last 3 years and it’s been perfectly reliable!” The milage these KTM guys are citing is embarrassing. These bikes don’t fail till you get over 10,000-15,000 miles which is also embarrassing but I keep seeing KTM owners with shockingly low miles praise the bikes reliability. Every modern two cylinder fuel injected motorcycle should be able to go 50,000 miles with only oil changes and valve checks. These KTM guys pay for the prestige and the “Look at me” factor and then do a bunch of mental gymnastics about how they need professional level performance and don’t mind dealing with more maintenance because they really need the best off-road performance for riding 1,000 miles of dirt roads every year. Adv is the new Harley. Klim is the new leather. Lots of mid life crisis getting cut short by cam shaft failures. That being said. Ian does this motorcycle stuff better than anyone. What a fantastic opening 😂😂

[@justsomedude445]

LoL so you dont know any your just another internet expert hater boi

[@DB-sd3cw]

@@IRLtrolls thank you for pointing this out. I thought I was living in the twilight zone with these ktm guys listing miles that are barely break-in miles for yamahas that go 100k miles with just valve checks and oil changes.

[@DB-sd3cw]

@@justsomedude445 don't get why you're so upset by reality

[@IRLtrolls]

@@justsomedude445 Don’t know any? I personally know people with KTM issues and all of them were pre cam shaft. My good friend just sold his 1290 because of electric issues the dealer basically told him “tough luck”

[@IRLtrolls]

@@DB-sd3cw I swear to God I was on instagram the other day and saw a guy say he has a 2024 901 with 1,000 miles and it’s been flawless. Geez I hope so!

[@rorymiskimen5221]

Great review, and I believe you know more about the 790/890 platform as an owner and rider than any other reviewer. My 2 cents, the 790 KTM is an amazing value, period. Start of the year I seriously considered the purchase of the 790 KTM, and if the bike had shown up in dealerships when promised, I probably would have bought one. As it turned out I bought a Tuareg 660, which I love riding, and it really is as good as you rank it. However, I do think the KTM 790 is better suited for longer distance touring and riding with a passenger, my wife doesn’t appreciate riding with me on the Aprilia. Thanks!

[@bradfuller1667]

I'VE e owned (2) 1290 SA , 690 Enduro R and many 250/300 platforms . I just bought a Vstrom 800 DE and absolutely love it ! It gives me piece of mind knowing im back on one of the Big 4

[@Paul-b3e8d]

Thank you for covering the "elephant". I own a 2023 890 Adventure. Have had no issues, 9,300 KM, Canada. (5,800 mi). Computer things, turn signals flash, stop working, cycle the ignition goes away. So far so good.

[@tech-kyle]

Despite following break-in procedures (varying speed, revs under the break-in warning zone, staying away from full throttle), and strictly following the maintenance schedule performed by the dealer, my 390 Adventure has had a wide range of issues. Day 1 coolant leak, occasional check-engine and throttle input not responding, weird issues with cold starts where it starts, idles 2 seconds, then dies (but ALWAYS runs on the third try), warping two front rotors despite normal road use (no track, no abuse, just commutes to work and occasional casual trails), sudden drop in fuel econ (48-62 instead of the 70-75 I was getting), quickshift+ operation difficult, issues detecting neutral preventing the bike from starting with the clutch out, 5th gear now sticking and sometimes popping out under accel, and recently, bolts backing out... It's been in for multiple warranty fixes (and I don't like being "that guy") and while they fixed the throttle issue, everything else has remained. Other than being disappointed by the suspension and overall offroad worthiness of the bike, I've really enjoyed it when everything works but my other bikes have needed nothing more than regular maintenance. I just feel like I made a huge mistake not going with one of the Japanese Big Four and I don't think I'll trust KTM again.

[@sled9263]

Zero issues with my 390 Adventure that I had for a year and a half.

[@gummball]

Interesting that KTM have given this bike an Offroad mode considering they're on the record telling us the original 790 (non-R) wasn't made for offroad

[@jaynadler4136]

I have one. 2024 model year. Put Motoz tires on it right away. Side stand sensor went at 5000km, replaced by warranty. No other issues. I plan to replace oil every 5000km. I am now at 10,000km and just did the ORBDR. It performed flawlessly. Happy with my choice.

[@christopherpekel6096]

I keep saying it but people won't listen, the Chinese made bikes don't have the issue. Otherwise the 800mt / ibex would have this problem, they don't

[@rkroz4005]

Great review and honest evaluation of current issues with quality/reliability. Thanks!

[@BigRockMoto]

Thanks for watching!

[@hmbseesaw]

Nice job Ian, will you really keep the whole thing moving forward quick with rapidfire knowledgeable Q&A pretty impressive over the years

[@LordOfGreatness]

I bought one and have enjoyed 5000km problem free this summer. 😎 Only problem i had was the screen that created a lot of buffeting. So i put on the screen from the 890 SMT and now it is fantastic..

[@paul.vanhout57]

Great opener - brilliant! This comment sans any KTM bashing but I do hope they find their way in terms of delivering consistent quality.

[@rogermac117]

My biggest question is, what happens when I want to sell or trade in a 790? Buyers will want to get them at giveaway prices because they are made in China and have known manufacturing issues. Trading them in the dealer will give you nothing for them because they are taking a risk. All in all it just screams "don't buy".

[@Jacob99174]

Sorry, but you are correct

[@jimcarr8425]

My 2019 790 Adv had its 18k "big" service back in June with no issues and it still runs sweet as a nut. I've had two 990 Adv, one of which almost made 100k (myopic car driver killed it and almost me) and neither had any issues. My only annoying KTM was a 640 Adv and that was mainly because I wasn't prepared to rag it off-road. Maybe I've been lucky but I do recall other bikes I've had that were utter pigs and they were Italian and Japanese.

[@C_R_O_M________]

The 990s were quite reliable. I'm currently on my second one. P.S. There's a guy with a 990 Adventure with 300K miles on the original motor with no rebuild ever made! FB group guy.

[@notgamingwithmax]

I was a big advocate of KTM prior to these issues and how I saw them treating their customers. In that facebook group there are many stories of customers who had to eat the cost of the repairs if the dealer didn't do 100% of the service maintenance on the bike. It will be a long time before KTM regains my trust. I even opted to go old school on my latest 300 two stroke purchase and picked a Rieju over a new TBI bike. I know the TBI is better but with all the tech in it, I just don't trust it not to fail. The rieju's old tech will last trouble free for a long time.

[@shaggydogsales]

Spot on review Ian. I currently have close cousin bike the 23 901 expedition with 13k miles. You hit all the key points for the platform. Just to emphasize, high fun factor, versatile and confident on/off road personality. Only issues I've had so far are quick shifter needed calibration, both spark plugs not torx correctly from factory, and failed water pump seal. All covered under the 2 year warranty. My local ktm service center currently has a 890 waiting on a ktm good will request for camshaft repair/replacement.

[@Veenker]

No one WANTS chinese bikes. But those that do definitely don't want to pay European prices for Chinese products.

[@0verfiend]

Uhhhwe do actually. China isn’t bombing people. They are building bridges and helping people. They are the future.

[@davidrsmith2417]

Ian, another great review, thanks. Regarding the engine smoothness when cruising on the highway. I had a similar complaint on my '23 KTM 890 (s) with 3k miles. I changed the oil 3 times and chose the Amsoil 10W-50. That different oil reduced the engine vibes by maybe 25%. Then I called D.I.D. USA and got a recommendation for their 520ERV7-120ZB Gold X-ring chain with a rivet master link. I also swapped the two sprockets for JT brand, a damped 16 tooth (looks similar to OEM) and a "self cleaning" light 45 tooth rear. These changes definitely further improved the smoothness of the bike, perhaps removing another 50% of the perceived roughness when cruising. Nice improvement when the chain is tensioned properly. I do think that an extra spring-loaded chain tensioner on the low side of the chain would be helpful in reducing chain whip and slap which seems to be the remaining issue. I'm still looking to the aftermarket for this extra tensioner.

[@MichiganMotoADV]

I bought a CFMOTO 450NK at the end of March this year and have just under 8k miles on it and zero issues so far. So in the discussion of trusting the reliability of Chinese manufacturing, the CFMOTO facility is one of the most state of the art factories in the world and are striving hard to be known as a global player with their own brand as well as partnerships with other companies. So it’s no longer a question of production quality trust and boils down to geopolitical biases that would turn anyone away. That being said, almost every motorcycle from every brand has some part(s) that originate from Chinese manufacturers. Like it or not, we are a global economy and in order to keep consumer prices lower while still maintaining good profit margins companies will always source cheap labor, and right now that comes from China and India. But cheap labor doesn’t mean inferior goods so long as the demand to adhere to high standards remain firm.

[@noidreculse8906]

NO CHINA FOR ME. iPhone is OK, no other choices. It’s purely economic politics. The less money I give china, the better

[@denniswilliams5659]

Great.... Great, review, Did you ask Ben if his blew up yet, Ben Mr. KTM hater just can't say enough great things about his 790. I want one so bad but still out of my price range, and probably ability I'm a 70 year old rider with a 2022 KLR, and will probably end up with an IBX 450 or Himalayan 450. Looking forward to an IBX review. Keep up the awesome work.

[@IRLtrolls]

Dude he has 1,000 miles on his KTM. Let it hit 15-20k and see what happens. Every bit of criticism of KTMs reliability is warranted.

[@DB-sd3cw]

KTM makes good performing machines at the cost of being an overall trash product.

[@justsomedude445]

@@IRLtrolls 16085 miles on my 2022 Husqvarna 901 no cam wear , 32000miles on the 1090r i had prior without issue , 36500 on a 690 prior to that without anything out of the ordinary

[@justsomedude445]

@@DB-sd3cw what models have you owned with what issues at what miles ??

[@justsomedude445]

odd dude i stopped watching him when he sold the 901 with almost no miles on it because he didnt trust it and said his channel was going back to being geared for the beginner then he puts $4000 worth of high end aftermarket suspension on a Honda 750 transalp and then buys a 790 made in china and openly states over and over he did so to break it and prove his hatred for KTM

[@teresad7174]

I own a 901 and a 2018 FE450. I haven't had an issue with either. That being said, my confidence in the brand going forward has taken a hit. Selling these bikes on the used market may become a challenge. I've seen some bikes of this platform taking price hits or sitting on the used market for extended time periods.

[@genedavis1984]

Thanks!

[@ektalon1]

GREAT review Ian. Thank you. As you said, ADV bikes are so good there is almost no reason to get a street bike. That said, please give your fun factor rankings of these five bikes assuming that they would get little if any off-road use. Thank you.

[@JeffChessher-dj4tu]

Thanks good review. What would really be fun is if you could get a BMW R80 GS to review. I sold mine a few years ago or I would let you use it. The R80 started it in the 1980s. I think you would find that the new adventure bikes are not an order of magnitude better.

[@beau9207]

One thing you, and a lot of other reviewers don't mention with KTM's. Every KTM I've ever bought, the dealership gave me the tech package free. I understand you can't advertise that they will "always" give it free, but at least mention it so people can give the dealership the ultimatum and I guarantee 9 out of 10 times, they'll give you it for free.

[@brianq103]

I got a voucher at a motorcycle show that got me the tech pack gratis on my '24 790 adventure. I am also taking the bike to the dealer for oil changes to get the 4 year warranty. After having a Ducati and a Harley serviced at the dealer, the KTM oil change is cheap!

[@jameslee5428]

Bought my 2023 KTM 890 adventure S in Southern California it now has 3500 miles on it. I got the complete tech package thrown in free with the bike. Also to note I paid $ 10,500 before tax and licenses for my bike.

[@human1513]

It is a nice looking bike. KTM has never been know for reliability. For 30 years. Heck mine seized 2 times before 10 hours. If I was to do any long distance riding I would never buy a KTM, Husky, GasGas as I want to ride and not be held up getting it fixed. They have issues with 4 and 2 strokes.

[@mototrailz]

Stop the BS 3 ktm 500 and each went to 40000km 600H without getting valve adjustment. Ride your bike instead of watching in the mirror. SMH

[@daveramsay8887]

You don't do any serious miles on a bike. You don't $uffer the crap regular blokes do. Good to see you are recognising the Pieir KTM has issues. Cant wait till you try the Empty 450 - I see lots of backflips ahead. I do follow you and like and support your work ...love the intensity.

[@daveramsay8887]

Fly out to Aussie and I'll let you ride mine for a week.

[@CrawdaddyChris]

Solid/in-depth review Ian. Reaffirmed my decision to purchase one. As I mentioned in the other 790 thread, Suspension 101 resprung my bike with shorter/proprietary/weight specific springs up front and a weight specific/progressive spring in the rear. Economical investment in suspension yielded transformative performance. Let’s ride! 💪👍

[@samhill3496]

Glad you were ready. You may have to turn the comments off. One thing about it. Current KTM owners will be building much more machines from there. There's a big world that will be glad to buy them. It's a lot to due with the price. Not everybody lives on a USA standard of life. I wonder about the warranty available in other markets. All good. I own KTM's and love them. There's a lot of issues with many manufacturers these days. Social media drives a lot of it, really a lot of things are contact parts without good quality control. The auto world has been swamped with bad parts of late.

[@AJKinetic1]

Love the intro Ian😂😂😂 couple of things: I have a 23 Norden Expedition, I've owned a total of 6 KTM products and none of them have given me issues. But ifdthe Norden eats it's cams, it is what it is. It's just parts. I don't care. Also, I run my throttle in Rally mode all the time. With the bike in Explorer mode. I found off road to not have the snap you need to loft the front over rocks or logs or whatever on command. It will pick the front in off road it just won't do it immediately. I also would not be afraid of the Chinese manufacturing of the 790. China is more than capable of producing quality.

[@sandwaves5642]

Many bikers, who encountered camshaft / other issues, bought these KTMs because they wanted to RIDE them - not to fight the dealers.... People did not purchase these bikes to prove a point, or to engage a war with the company, so KTM SHOULD HAVE, with no arguments, and as soon as the cases piled up ( to more that 20 ), declared a TOTAL RACALL on all these 7-890s ! - which they STILL DID NOT DO ! Yes - there will, always be those, who are willing to take a risk, but for ME and many like me - NO thanks ! The indifference demonstrated by the management = a smelly fart in the owners' faces 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂

[@jonay9221]

If not a recall then a commitment to remedy any problems with the camshaft/head funded by KTM should have been given. They have extended warranty on new 7/890 from 2 to 4 years, this does nothing for existing owners into it having exceeded their shorter 1 or 2 year warranty, apart from to dump the value of their bike

[@williamzeller294]

My KZ650 had 79,000 miles (127Kkm) when I sold, no repairs ever. My Concours 1000 had 126,000 miles (203Kkm) when traded. It had had one repair, to the final drive. My ZX1100E had 106,000 miles (170Kkm) when sold. No repairs ever. None. My last Gold Wing had 116,000 miles (186Kkm) when traded. Only repairs were two switches replaced. My FJR has 90,000 (145Kkm) miles. One repair, a starter motor replaced. When you start seeing KTMs running like those bikes, let's start talking.

[@IRLtrolls]

Yeah but bro are any of those bikes “Ready to race??” That’s what’s important here. We have to be ready to race!’

[@williamzeller294]

@@IRLtrolls Funny!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@IRLtrolls On the other hand, how many ignorant comments have I read that people say "race tuning" (whatever that means) is why motorcycles aren't built for reliability and longevity. Yeah okay dude. I'm sure racing circuits don't prioritize longevity or reliability for winning races.

[@IRLtrolls]

@@exothermal.sprocket Uhhh they don’t? All professional race bikes and cars are rebuilt often. Most factory Motocross bikes get a new top end every race. A twin cylinder adventure bike is not a race bike and you nor I are a professional racer. Even the most extreme endurance races like La Mans, Baja or Dakar are still destroying equipment with no intention of using that engine again without a complete rebuild.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@IRLtrolls My POINT was, people spout useless drivel with no detail, and in the process imply that race builds are mostly garbage, or that high performance (what is "high" by the way?) cannot coexist with reliability and longevity and efficiency.

[@kobi-kobsen]

This is cool, detailed and still on spot. I have the 2019 model but I think about changing to the 901 because I like the optic way more.

[@jetmuchacho]

Jaaaaysus. It's pretty bad when in 2024 you buy a motorcycle for half a years salary after taxes and have to take the motor apart and inspect the god dam thing to make sure the oil passages line up and it's not eating itself like you would some kind of freakin kit motor for a gocart or something...

[@nomading_in]

I put the Nordon 901 suspension on mine...much improved!

[@Motozstu]

The Low slung fuel tanks is an absolute game changer, the weight distribution is similar to what BMW did with the Boxer engine, it’s one of the main reasons I purchased a “24 790 Adv, love it so far, time will tell on its reliability, in the mean time I’m gonna ride the hell out if it and enjoy Adv riding

[@harleyngekss8491]

Please try reviewing the Kove 800 pro or Kove 450 rally or better still the CF MOTO 800MT-X when it comes out..

[@g0bi]

Great video as usual, reallylike all your videos! Would be interested to hear you point on the other versions of the T7 with upgraded suspension etc.. Im thinking of buying the T7 extreme.

[@melt2992]

Some of the dealers and internet post say don’t put a lithium battery on the 890/790, it can cause electrical issues. I have had one on my 2023 Adventure for 6 months no issue yet. Do you have any info on the topic. Nice review. Thanks

[@advredbikes]

Thanks for the great video Ian, Thanks for the great video Ian, really appreciate you answering my question thank you for that. It looks like an amazing bike. It would be a consideration of me moving from my 2017 Africa twin down to this bike as it has so much and also with you showing how easy it is to pick up off the ground that would be a game changer for me , in a good way, always appreciate your honest, accurate reviews and yes, I would buy a Chinese bike

[@MegaVipes]

I have the 790 adventure since july 2023 it has 19000Km and she's amazing litle problems with it, and Ktm solve it. loving my bike and about reliability, well my friend has a t7 and had problems with it, the other one as a voge 900 and 0 problems...

[@jameslee5428]

Thank you again for another world class review! You are, our source of information when it comes to anything motorcycles… I believe a long-term test somewhere in the range of 15 to 30,000 miles to determine if the 790/890 is truly reliable Motorcycle… thank you again for all the information that you put out there for us motorcyclist.

[@JuergenJakob-zr2vs]

great vid as usual, thank you! Engine sound: compression is significant lower that on on the 890, that might be a contributing factor for more smoothness. Suspension: the suspension from the 890 standard version should fit 1:1, shouldn't it?

[@sandralunsford5108]

Big fan , but chewing popcorn while seeming annoyed by the fact that people may bash on ktm because of lack of maybe weak parts or QC seems a little counterintuitive! The bikes they make in Austria have these issues as well. I realize you like ktm and I do as well but that’s the world we live in. I don’t really know a lot of serious adv riders that don’t consider reliability at the top of there list when buying a bike.and ktm has issues more than Japanese brands , it’s just the truth. How was the popcorn?

[@ogasi1798]

this particular model is an absolute beauty

[@krisfant4749]

Thank you for this super helpful and thorough review. I'm noodling between a used ktm 790s, a new KTM 790 and the Ibex 450... this reminded me that the new engine might be much more manageable at low speeds, and the warantee is a huge draw. I'll have to check the cost of local shops maintenance, since that is something we usualy do on our own. Thanks again!

[@mikeconforti6820]

That sounds like a great bike for you. I am on holiday in Italy and there are a lot of new Transalps with owners who look happy driving by.

[@skandou012]

Hi, love your videos from France! What do you think of the 2025 version with better front rear suspension from the 890…from a comfort perspective, could that put it in the 800DE/Norden bracket?

[@chukku2175]

I find it really strange, how pricing works in different parts of the world. And I am not talking about simply differences in prices, but how the whole relative positioning of different products to each other completely changes. Because here in Switzerland, the 790 Adventure incl. tech pack costs 13.030 CHF which is significantly more than the Tuareg660, Transalp, VStrom and Tenere, which all 4 cost pretty much the same at 11.995 CHF. (Tenere 200 bucks less). Anyway... at those prices, I would say it is pretty much a no-brainer to get the Tuareg instead of the 790. Considering that the only argument against the Tuareg usually is "I am afraid of the uncertain reliability of an Aprilia" and KTM certainly doesn't win THAT argument ;)

[@marchofthecontraption8060]

Lots of people in this comments saying things, so shall i! I own a 2024 790 or at least my wife does. I purchased a V85TT...4k miles into ownership. We had a poor purchasing experience, not KTMs fault...we had a 'botched' 1st service that was remedied quickly by the servicing dealer. Story: Purchased bike without tech pack, 1st service is before demo mode ends, added tech pack at 1st service demo mode ended, tech pack didnt activate. Few days later got back in and got it added. I hear many people talk about the menu being intuitive and sure maybe compared to some other convoluted menu systems, but its way more complicated then my V85TT. Other then that tho, oh boy what a great bike, forget everything you want to think about the bike and give it a shot, it climbs onto the cams around 5k has an comfortable surge of power, that can excite even us, 20 year riders with sports bikes. The chassis handles its wheel sizes well for the road and the standing position at 6'1 requires no adjustment from my wifes 5'10 setup. I do think the STR are kinda trash offroad, very low lateral grip and even the trick rally mode slip control cant hide it, but on the road in the pouring rain, theyre legit. We got the bike to do 200+ mile days and FS roads, it does it. Reliability to be determined, but honestly im lucky we have the n+ 1 curse, if its down for the count we have a spare bike to ride. I daily an Italian bike, lol... who am i to throw spears? We often talk about the KTM as we ride and hot dang...we dont know what you would get instead if you where in the market for something like it. It'll blow the doors off a t7 on the road (we have an mt07 to compare), Its got more feaures then the transalp (what we cross shopped it against), and its waaay cheaper than the rally/bmw 900gs. My wife doesnt know what she would move to within the KTM line / other line when she looses confidence in the 790, she just hopes they keep the model alive. For my V85TT? Love it, cant wait to put the I told you so to bed and get the base africa twin, lol. Great review, stinks this bike has so much baggage, if youre in the market def try to throw a leg over. When you ride it like a complete fricken goon like we do sometimes that quickshifter works a dream too, the bike can hustle. Were about 10-15k a year across a few bikes people, sure if it'll break we'll find it...lol Final note, the engine sounds horrible...its marbles in a box, legit biggest complaint

[@WinifredMulvey]

Haha .. exactly I purchased a 23 V85TT to replace my 2013 GSA 90th anniversary….after seeing how momma BMW was cheaping out in the 23 GSA ..all for $30k+. I told my Piaggio dealer , after the first 500 Mike service to “stand by”.. I put 6000 miles on the V85TT in 2 months just waiting to be left stranded… nope… bike was bullet proof , zero mechanical issues aside from a loose rear brake master cylinder..3 minute fix….. from Daytona to Utah and back.. limited highway droning, plenty of 2 lane cruising and a “ respectable” amount of single track in Moab… 10 months later , the V85TT has over 12k miles….. easy/simple at home maintenance as well…

[@spencervidal3168]

I have owned a couple Chinese bikes, and they were crap. Knowing the 790 is built there as well, I would RUN away from any bike made in China..

[@Interbeing_CDN]

With the bad history of Chineses QC, I was surprised to see BMW having their GS900 motors built in China as well.

[@spencervidal3168]

@@Interbeing_CDN Down here in Central America, it is a running joke.. "Oh it's made in China" With the understanding that it is CRAP!!

[@Howling-Mad-Murdock]

Almost everything you use is either made in China or is chock full of Chinese made components. Like anything no matter where it’s made, what’s important is quality control, and that’s down to the brand.

[@spencervidal3168]

@@Howling-Mad-Murdock I think it's safe to say the QC at KTM and their affiliates SUCKS!!!!

[@Howling-Mad-Murdock]

@@spencervidal3168 Why? The camshaft issue has nothing to do with QC. I’m not aware that KtTM has a particular issue with incorrectly assembled bikes. Why do you think their QC sucks?

[@FedericoRamalloDev]

I decided against a Chinese motorcycle. I had Vstrom and dual sport Honda bikes. So I’ve been choosing the more reliable option. Recently I bought a Ktm fully aware of the reliability issues. Thanks to your great videos. I chose fun over reliability. But I draw the line on the Chinese Ktm and got a 890 Duke. Baby step I guess. The adventure was too wide for city driving in Mexico where traffic is more hectic. A lot of driving through narrow spaces between cars. I use it to daily take my son to school. Overkill. I use rain mode with my son and sport mode when I’m solo. Having to pay extra for the tech pack is ridiculous but hey i bought it. I struggled with my choice for 2 years. I can see the appeal of a lower cost Chinese moto with Ktm support. In addition to quality you also have the lack of parts for Chinese motos. With Ktm you avoid the latter issue. Great content and videos!

[@FedericoRamalloDev]

Went through the rear tyre in 1500 miles. Crazy fun. I do miss hitting the trails though.

[@skifast1356]

Great video.I think you said the seat was 840mm in low position - can you get a lower seat arrangement ?Thanks

[@BigDaveTALKS]

Great video as usual. I was considering this bike or the 890. After watching this I see the 890 is bettter for how I ride. If I added the price of the TouraTech suspension then I may as well get the 890. Thank you again for this and all the other informative videos.

[@ryantherriault]

Great review. I’m interested in buying a new 790 but my dealer is trying to sell me a new leftover 22 890s instead for $2k less. They claim the biggest difference is the street oriented tires. Thoughts on 890s vs current 790?

[@OlemartinBuringrud]

and where does the 'coating' on the camshaft end up? yes, it gets inn the lubricating oil around the engine, which is not good!

[@Fubar684]

I 'd buy one if I wanted a big bore ADV bike. But at the moment I'd rather have a smaller displacement machine like the CFMoto 450 or the Royal Enfield Himi.

[@obud3777]

Light is right! 👍

[@Catboy-hr2qp]

Same way I'm leaning, debating whether to go see if my dealer can pre-order/reserve an ibex 450 for me for when they start arriving here

[@JustinRepo29]

Ian never fails to give an outstanding and thorough review. Best reviews you can trust on KZbin. Zack Courts for street riding and Ian for off road/all around fantastic reviews and information.

[@BigRockMoto]

Wow, thanks!

[@robertstuck3214]

Great info. Thanks for putting this together. I have been a Honda man most of my life but my last two bikes have been KTMs. 690 and 390ADV. both were great bikes. My question is about your comment on the fuel gauge only reading after 1/2 tank. Does it also give you milage remaining at current fuel MPG for the entire full tank? I could live with that.

[@nickabrahall1412]

Love the opening Ian 😂😂😂

[@alessandroroca8113]

Thanks from this comprehensive video. From a short test ride I had the impression that the Aprilia Tuareg 660 is far superior off road (ground clearance, suspensions etc.) and overall similar on road (Ktm better low rews, Aprilia catching up (being also 10kg lighter) at at high rews). Your opinion? Thank you.

[@mfranquemont1884]

Well done, as usual. Thank you Ian

[@BigRockMoto]

Very welcome

[@petelafontaine4641]

Love your videos Ian, I have a question witch you might or might not know the answer. Since KTK are going through a difficult time for the last year and a half, I herd that they were going to transfer most of their production to China and India in the future. Witch bike from KTM is completely build in Australia? Or are they all made in Asia from now on ?

[@mitchwiebell2785]

LOVE THE INTRO!!

[@AndersPetersson79]

Great review, as always!

[@fredericooliveira-cc2mb]

Amazing review! Best in the world

[@danielreagan3771]

While the japanese bikes had growing pains im sure everyone thought of them as they do the chinese produced bikes. I have a kayo 250efi dirtbike and literally sunk it tailpipe under water drained it new oil ran it, repeat 2 more times before things were no longer cloudy in oil site glass. still cranks today with no problems so i would not concern myself with the factory location as much as i concern myself with factory support. IF they are willing to do what needs to be done to remedy a defective product then thats a big kudos to them.

[@lewiss66]

Let's see what the 990 engine offers as far as reliability concern. From what I've seen they relocated the exhaust CAT which is a good point!

[@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449]

mate ( an depth) vid was made with a stripped down 790 engine) Apparently it’s not the cams , it’s the oil wells that feed the top end - cams etc , not large enough or wrong angle and top end is not getting sufficient oil lubricant.

[@AndreasBrander]

I’m just going to by a new adventure bike and it stands between the KTM 790 Adventure ore the Aprilia Tuareg 660. I need some help to choose??? What would you suggest? I ride more dirt and enduro trails.

[@manolete433]

Aprilia for sure, it is more capable for off-roading. I was on the same boat as you, but I’m leaning towards the KTM because it has the cornering ABS and I mainly will use the bike for commuting in Seattle, which means a lot of rain.

[@caffrey9762]

I was looking at Taurag as well, Ktm 790 is a Nicer looking front & more comfortable riding position, ktm 790 has a lower centre of gravity making It a sweet bike for commuting adventure & touring

[@admoto77]

@BigRockMoto Hey Ian, great review as always. when off-roading you tend to drop the bike few times, so which one do you think would be easier to pickup more than once 😅 KTM 790 or Tuareg 660 ? Thx

[@d0ct0rkai999]

hahaha love the opening! 🤣

[@johnstraw5390]

I bought a KTM 790 Adventure S brand new in May 2024. It’s technically a 2022 made from Austrian parts and assembled here in the Philippines. I absolutely love the bike. The suspension is amazing! However, I was having trouble with surging when riding up the mountain. Had it tested and I need a new oil pump. It should be covered but KTM management is changing here in the Philippines so my dealer has no idea when I might get the replacement oil pump. Fortunately I can still ride it. Pretty frustrating.

[@noControl556]

"A cruise control button that doesn't work" Yea it is strange especially when you paid for it but what is likely a faulty brake sensor prevents it from working.

[@genxgamerdad71]

4 2023 890 R's discounted at my dealer for $11.9k. As an owner of a 1290 SAS, I'm not a fan of the APEX shocks if you plan on doing any serious off roading. Already had a leaking front fork seal and rear blown shock. Front fork covered by extended warranty, rear shock KTM is covering thankfully.

[@TimothyGreen-ko2vm]

Love the intro.😁

[@DragoniteMotoJP]

You say it's fast enough, but can it complete the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs?

[@sultanorefan8701]

Can you please make comparison between KTM1290 S and R.. also do you think they will change anything in 2025. Thank you for all your time and great job

[@benvirgil1573]

Great review. Love the low center of gravity on the KTM design, but until the KTM demonstrates reliability, I will just stick with my DR650 or buy the T7. Reliability is a critical factor to me SINCE I like to ride solo. IMO, Manufacturing in China is risking backwards step in reliability and reputation. Now if KTM went to Japan to manufacture, and with the design improvements, that might have been interesting to me. I really like your comparison chart showing three Japanese bikes in the same price range.

[@burb3l]

Nice review! the 790 adventure R SH is like 4k usd cheaper. should I buy a new 790 2024 adventure or get a 790 adventure R SH . I had a tiger 900 rally pro which was great . I am 181cm and rookie on dirt, but would like to do the TET roads. thanks a million