I can’t recommend this enough, it is an essential bit of kit for anyone with a lay-a-spa, not just for descaling but also very useful for testing the pump without having to fill the tub just to test the pump.
@MrKelvincurtis Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. We are glad you found our EASY-SCALE kits versatile
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. We are glad you found our EASY-SCALE kits versatile
@davidsayles470 Жыл бұрын
I just bought one of these, will be delivered tomorrow.
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your purchase David. Every EASY-SCALE kit comes with dedicated after sale service so if you encounter any issues with your pump please get in touch via our website😉😁
@alburglar3 ай бұрын
Perfect. Just got my airjet pump going after soaking it all day in descaler and eventually the pump has kicked in again and no more error 02.
@RamiroSugis Жыл бұрын
just what i was looking for, thank you.
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Glad to be of service. Thanks for your purchase. Every EASY-SCALE kit comes with dedicated after sale service so if you encounter any issues with your pump please get in touch via our website
@nickpont85679 ай бұрын
Is there a version for intex spas please....
@kelvinsgadgets25579 ай бұрын
Hi. Yes, there is. The Intex video can be found here kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZyveZ6Vp8-ho7M
@nickpont85679 ай бұрын
@@kelvinsgadgets2557 thanks for your help...
@obviouslytwo4u Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know this was a thing. thinking about buying a jacuzzi so I'm considering making my own manifold using a 10L ad blue water tank and replacing descaler liquid with either white vinegar or citric acid. Thanks for the insight
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
There will always be DIY’ers who make their own. No worries there. That said, quite a few of our thousands of customers have given feedback about how versatile our kits are when they have changed their tub, in addition to the cost of the fittings to make their own Our kits (at the time of this post) come with free ABC washers, spare EASY-SCALE coupling washers and sachet of OUST worth over £4. You may want to consider using something a lot smaller than a 10L vessel as this will over-dilute the solution
@obviouslytwo4u Жыл бұрын
@@kelvinsgadgets2557 any chance of making a transparent one that also has a mesh filter in the lower part?. Just to stop any large lumps of limescale or debris being recycled into the pump. If you would think of ideas my thoughts are maybe you could do a rectangle filter the same ID of the vessle with a long stick that you push down to some Mounting points just above lower return aperture.
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
@@obviouslytwo4u short answer, no. We did consider mocking up something transparent to illustrate our kits working - but it wouldn’t be exactly the same size and shape and thus wouldn’t be a true representation. Our EASY-SCALE’s are made of polypropylene, which - in its natural state is slightly opaque - which defeats what we would be trying to achieve The descaling solution we include tends to change limescale from a solid state to a milky solution. Any fragments or debris is usually collected in the very bottom of the EASY-SCALE as the bottom boss is 2mm from the bottom A descale cycle typically takes 15-30 minutes, once a month, sometimes less frequently dependant upon where the owner lives. This is a very small proportion of total overall running time of a pump We have allowed peoples reviews and endorsements, along with the product itself to show potential customers how it works and how effective it is. People can often get a mis-conception of how good something ACTUALLY is, when all they see is some edited footage Hope this helps
@grahametippett115710 ай бұрын
Where can i find this item to purchase please
@kelvinsgadgets255710 ай бұрын
Hi Grahame, You can purchase your EASY-SCALE kit from our website, eBay or Amazon. www.kelvinsgadgets.co.uk (or google Kelvins gadgets) amzn.to/3srayz9 ebay.co.uk/str/kelvinsgadgets
@W00dsdale2 жыл бұрын
Hi. This looks great and I will purchase for routine maintenance. However how does it work if the pump won't start at all?
@kelvinsgadgets25572 жыл бұрын
A popular question. Quite a few of our customers have shifted limescale by doing a ‘static descale’ - leave the EASY-SCALE attached and let the Oust work its magic overnight. Try the pump again the next morning. It doesn’t work in all cases but certainly worth a try If that‘s not worked, the chances are it’ll probably be a failed impeller or flow sensor. Don’t fret, both are cheap and fairly easy to replace and certainly not as daunting to replace as you may think. Your EASY-SCALE kit won’t give the kiss of life to a failed impeller or flow sensor but is a very handy tool for testing your pump during and after repairs, aswell as it’s main purpose, a descaling device
@terjegrov2013Ай бұрын
How often do U recommend doing this?
@Itsme-zv1rb Жыл бұрын
Hi I used your descaler and tool and worked fine. Took off, removed solution and put back on to run through with clean water and now I have the dreaded E02 any help or advice? Thanks
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Sorry to hear your’e having trouble. You need to prime the pump by filling with water and tipping back to expel air. If you’ve done that and still getting E02 and it worked before, with no issues, you may have a faulty flow sensor, impeller or a blockage.
@tetrapanax1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I’ll be ordering one of these. I’ve also been looking at servicing the pump but can’t work out how best to remove it from the latest air jet (same as the one featured in the video). Are you aware of any video guides? Thanks
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your interest. You should have 2 black silicone caps that go on the inside of the tub in order to remove the pump.
@tetrapanax1 Жыл бұрын
@@kelvinsgadgets2557 Thanks but sorry I mean how to access the impeller inside the pump.
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
@@tetrapanax1 ah ok, sorry. We haven’t managed to find the time to do a pump strip down just yet, but it’s very similar to the older ‘eggs’. The only difference being the removal of the 2 clamps securing the heater matrix. I have some pictures of when I helped a customer recently. Please contact us via our website and I can send you the pictures. Here’s the link to the ‘egg’ version kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGXagKF7gNaoo8k And here’s a link to our website www.kelvinsgadgets.co.uk (or google Kelvins gadgets)
@benjiejohn Жыл бұрын
Legend
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to leave an endorsement Benjie, very much appreciated. We don’t just sell our products, we also provide excellent after sales support too 😊
@jasonbernstein81224 ай бұрын
I've just received my easy scale,is it ok the leave it running for 24hr after the descale wirh the easy scale attached to see if my E02 alarm come on
@kelvinsgadgets25574 ай бұрын
Hi. Thanks for your question. Yes, it’s fine to run your pump whilst attached to your EASY-SCALE for prolonged periods, provided you use just clean water We recommend setting the temperature to 35°C to mimic usual running of the pump. Keep an eye on the water level as some evaporation will take place
@donnajacobs2113 Жыл бұрын
I have the coleman saluspa tahiti hot tub with the grey egg like pump and it leaks when I turn on the pump... I've replaced all Gaskets and o rings on the pipes and it still leaks!!! Also replaced the umbrella shaped places where the air blows from! Idk what else to do... I also used a bottle of the seal a leak solution in it!!!! What do you recommend for me to try next?
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Hi Donna. So sorry to hear you are having trouble. Our EASY-SCALE kits are excellent for this type of thing as you can test the pump ‘off the tub’ If you have invested in a kit, attach it to your pump. Remove the bottom panel, split and elevate the pump, fill your EASY-SCALE with water and run the pump. You’ll see within seconds where the leak is coming from As you have a Coleman I’m guessing you are not in the UK. Our kits are available from Amazon.co.uk Here’s a link. Hope it goes well for you www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09V3JYNMQ/ref=cx_skuctr_share?smid=A33SZE4UXL0GJH
@CallumAitken-vi8fd7 ай бұрын
Hi mate do you get the descale dust with the kit? I’m needing to order one so just making sure . Thanks
@kelvinsgadgets25577 ай бұрын
Hi. Thanks for your interest. This depends on where you are in the world and which sales platform you use This is due to shipping restrictions Here are the links to the Lay Z Spa Airjet ‘with Oust included’ versions amzn.to/45A3fTS ebay.co.uk/str/kelvinsgadgets If you purchase through our website and you’re not in the UK or NI, I’m afraid we can’t send with OUST Hope that helps
@Leo-gt1bx7 ай бұрын
The pump I am trying to fix has no heat and no error codes. All sensors and flow switch are good and so are the elements. The customer changed the heating unit. Is wiring the elements in the incorrect sequence going to cause a problem?
@kelvinsgadgets25577 ай бұрын
I’m afraid without seeing your pump I can’t comment on root causes of no heat. Answer to the wiring question though. The wires should have letters on them. From right to left, it should be A,A,B,B (followed by other wires…) Hope that helps
@adrianmartin1888 Жыл бұрын
Hi do you have a video on replacing pump lmpeller...eo2 error won't stop after descaling.?
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for your question. We don’t have our own video, but here’s a link IF you have the newer square Airjet pump, it’s exactly the same principle as the older ‘egg’ Only difference being, you need to remove the 2 clamps on the heater matrix and raise it to gain access to the jubilee clip underneath Here’s the link. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGXagKF7gNaoo8k
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for your question. Here’s a link to test the flow sensor. Chances are it’ll be ether that or the impeller but checking and ruling out the flow sensor will narrow it down. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2mamHiJhtiKi6M
@adrianmartin1888 Жыл бұрын
@kelvinsgadgets2557 thank you so much for getting back to me.. however I do not have an egg shaped pump and no screws looks like a sealed unit although I have not turned it upside down. 🙃
@adrianmartin1888 Жыл бұрын
I have the one you done the descaling vid on.
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianmartin1888 please message us on our website and we will send you instructions
@AkilBux-xj9qd6 ай бұрын
I received my easy scaler today. When i connected it and turned it on. The E02 message comes up and it does flow the water or heat it? I have flushed water through the pipes so I know they are not blocked. Just wondered what I can do?
@kelvinsgadgets25576 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear you are having trouble. Your EASY-SCALE kit can also be used to diagnose E02 errors such as testing the flow sensor ‘off the tub’ and is also a great tool when repairing and testing your pump. E02 is a lack of or reduction in water flow. Please go to our website where you’ll find a handy checklist for causes and remedies for E02. Chances are it’ll be something simple. www.kelvinsgadgets.co.uk/faqs
@andyscullion Жыл бұрын
Hello my friend. This is only my second year with the lay z spa. Just ran it through a cycle for setup and I'm getting no hot water. Tried starting and restarting. Switching the heat on and off but it hasn't worked. I can't hear the thermostat 'click' either when I adjust the heat. My guess is a scaled water heater element. Do you agree? Also, if it is that, can I descale it using your method? Or is it a full replacement jobbie? Thanks in advance for your help.
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for your interest and question. Answers as follows. Yes, you can descale the heater using an EASY-SCALE. They don’t give the kiss of life to failed parts such as heaters, impellers, etc but are great for testing the pump ‘off the tub’. Could be a failed thermal reset switch, heater control cable / switch (depending on age of the pump) or the heater matrix itself. Another common cause is a frogspawn-like substance caused by using multifunction tabs. An investment in an EASY-SCALE will sort / help diagnose any of these, aswell as it’s main use - a descaling device. Hope this helps
@shaungoldsborougb4385 Жыл бұрын
Hi my lazyspa helsinki everything works fine apart from failing to heat up av order a descaler from your ebay will this help fix problem
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Hi Shaun. Many thanks for your purchase. Answer to your question - our EASY-SCALE kits help remove limescale that causes heating and flow issues. They are also very handy at testing your pump ‘off the tub’ Please message us via our website and we’ll talk you through how to test the heating elements www.kelvinsgadgets.co.uk (or google Kelvins gadgets)
@shaungoldsborougb4385 Жыл бұрын
@@kelvinsgadgets2557 thanks very much received the part yesterday fitted and the hottub is fully working again
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
@@shaungoldsborougb4385 Thanks for the feedback. Always very humbling to read these comments. So glad you’re sorted 😊
@mikeyii Жыл бұрын
Do you do sales to the US by chance?
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for your interest. We have stock of our best sellers in Amazon UK fulfilment centres. Simply search for B09V3JYNMQ, or go to www.amazon.co.uk/s?me=A33SZE4UXL0GJH&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P For other makes and models, we ship worldwide. The cost depends on where you are and the weight of the kit you need. We use Royal Mail for international shipping and charge it at cost price; the difference between EVRI (Hermes) and the cost of Royal Mail international prices
@adrianaramirez31042 жыл бұрын
How often do you recommend descaler maintenance? Monthly?
@kelvinsgadgets25572 жыл бұрын
Short answer - it depends where you live. We would recommend 3-4 times a year but it doesn’t hurt to do it more frequently (monthly) or repeat treatments in severe hard water areas. There's no such thing as over-descaling your hot tub pump, and the simplicity of use means it’s easy to do😉
@mikeharris5264 Жыл бұрын
Hi can you tell me how to descale my lazy spa vagas it has a e02 code so I can not run the pump to descale it had new filter and new impeller
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you are having trouble Quite a few of our customers have shifted limescale by doing a ‘static descale’ - leave the EASY-SCALE attached and let the descaling solution work its magic overnight. Try the pump again the next morning. It doesn’t work in all cases but certainly worth a try If that‘s not worked, the chances are it’ll probably be a failed flow sensor. Easy to test, see our other video for that. Our EASY-SCALE kits don't give the kiss of life to failed components like impellers etc but do flush out limescale and any remnants of multifunction tablets, a common cause of E02 errors We sell impeller kits and flow sensor paddles and also provide helpful advice. We can guide you through some simple checks to see what is causing an E02 error. Firstly, go to our FAQ page on our website. Next - contact us to let us know if you’re still having trouble. Hope this helps
@mikeharris5264 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help
@mikeharris5264 Жыл бұрын
Hi i have used you dealer kit and was just wondering if there is a way to test the egg without filling the hot tub don't want to fill it and have to empty it
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
@@mikeharris5264 yes you can test the pump (and heater) on the pump. Simply fill with plain clean water. You can test for leaks by removing the top half of the casing and / or bottom panel. Test the heater by setting the temperature to 30°C (no higher). It usually takes around 60-120 secs to reach 30°C
@PBFPartnership Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin thanks for the tips. I have a squarish airjet similar to the first one in your video which was only used last year, with a Hawaii square Spa. On connecting it up this year there was a leak from the bottom, on contacting Bestway and sending them a video of the problem they have replaced it under their 2 year guarantee, Any idea what the problem may have been? I have searched KZbin for the disassembly and repairs for this pump model to no avail in case the problem shows itself at again at some future date when out of guarantee. Sadly I can only find fixes for the egg shaped one. cheers John
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Hi John Answers to your questions… The pumps are pretty much the same inside. The only significant difference is the necessity to ‘release’ and lift the heater matrix on the newer square one to remove the circulation pump. The screws around the middle are accessible from under the middle section on the new ones too Leaks are soooo much easier to detect by using our EASY-SCALE kits as you can test (run) the pump ‘off the tub’ Take a look at our other KZbin video on how to test the flow sensor. That’ll give you an idea. Here’s the link. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2mamHiJhtiKi6M
@PBFPartnership Жыл бұрын
@@kelvinsgadgets2557 At 76 years of age I would like to say taking the time to reply Kevin. I watched the link but sadly even though I am relatively DIY minded I am still not certain on how to disassemble the base section and the brain and fingers are not as nimble as once were.. I don't want to go messing about and not be able to reassemble. Will keep looking around on KZbin. Thanks once again
@TheStuwinter Жыл бұрын
Hi Kelvin, I just purchased a descaler kit from you which I've tried to use today...one question, I've replaced the impeller and attached your kit but as soon as I turn on I'm getting the e02 within 5 seconds. So how can I start the descaling with that error showing??? Many thanks
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Hi Stu. Firstly, many thanks for your purchase. A few things to check… 1. Did you replace the impeller with a decent quality one? Some don’t fit properly 2. Did you replace the rubber ends of the impeller? They need to be replaced as they wear and elongate, causing the impeller to knock against the pump casing and fail 3. Did you remove the old rubber ends? Sorry to ask, but you’ll be amazed how many DIY’ers leave the old ones in and crush it with the new one 4. Have you checked the flow sensor? Easy to test - with a fridge magnet (or your old impeller if you still have it). Remove the single screw on the top of the flow sensor housing, remove the short black rod. Attach your pump to your EASY-SCALE kit, activate the pump and put the end of the black rod on a magnet within 1 second of startup 5. Are you using Multifunction tabs? They contain algaecide which causes / creates a frogspawn like substance which blocks the heater matrix 6. Did you reconnect the wire on the internal pump? A very common thing to forget to do when carrying out repairs 7. Have you reinstalled the pump ‘backwards’ i.e flow is in reverse direction
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Hi Stu. Firstly, many thanks for your purchase. A few things to check… 1. Did you replace the impeller with a decent quality one? Some don’t fit properly 2. Did you replace the rubber ends of the impeller? They need to be replaced as they wear and elongate, causing the impeller to knock against the pump casing and fail 3. Did you remove the old rubber ends? Sorry to ask, but you’ll be amazed how many DIY’ers leave the old ones in and crush it with the new one 4. Have you checked the flow sensor? Easy to test - with a fridge magnet (or your old impeller if you still have it). Remove the single screw on the top of the flow sensor housing, remove the short black rod. Attach your pump to your EASY-SCALE kit, activate the pump and put the end of the black rod on a magnet within 1 second of startup 5. Are you using Multifunction tabs? They contain algaecide which causes / creates a frogspawn like substance which blocks the heater matrix 6. Did you reconnect the wire on the internal pump? A very common thing to forget to do when carrying out repairs 7. Have you reinstalled the pump ‘backwards’ i.e flow is in reverse direction Please get in touch using the contact details on the business card that came with your kit if you’re still having trouble
@HossamHakem19 күн бұрын
Bought the descaler and got it shipped to Australia 🇦🇺 what descale solutions do you recommend here as I can't get the oust ? Thanks
@jasonhoward57872 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin having the same issue I turn my pump on and within five seconds it sounds like the fuse pops on the inside and will not pump with the E O2 code
@kelvinsgadgets25572 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear you are still having trouble. Quite a few of our customer have shifted limescale by doing a ‘static descale’ - leave the EASY-SCALE attached and let the Oust work its magic overnight. Try the pump again the next morning. It doesn’t work in all cases but certainly worth a try If that‘s not worked, the chances are it’ll probably be a mechanical issue such as a failed impeller or flow sensor.
@Alexandra.9922 жыл бұрын
hi Kelvin would I be able to purchase an impeller kit as I had an a02 fault took motor apart and impeller is split so need a new on I live in New Zealand
@kelvinsgadgets25572 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for your interest. We do ship Worldwide. Please go to our website where you can find contact details. We can give you a quote for shipping and go from there
@sleepwalker312 жыл бұрын
Hi I wonder if you could help diagnose my issue. In the past the Eo2 error has been cleared with flushing. This time when I turn it on there is no sound and within seconds the eo2 flashes up on the display. I've flushed it several times with no joy. Is this likely to be a descaling or mechanical problem please?
@kelvinsgadgets25572 жыл бұрын
Hi David. Thanks for your question. Sorry to hear you’re having trouble. Our EASY-SCALE kits are excellent for assisting with repairs, both during and after as it acts as a ‘mini tub’ You can also use them to test for leaks as the pump becomes portable. If your pump is more than 18 months old, and is a little noisier than usual it is likely to be a failed impeller. We sell them on our website. They are very high quality from the UK’s leading supplier, Headseal.com. Also on our website are other causes of E02 Here’s a link to our website where you can look up the causes and buy an impeller. www.kelvinsgadgets.co.uk (or google Kelvins gadgets) Here’s a link to a KZbin video on how to replace the impeller. Lay Z Spa Airjet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGXagKF7gNaoo8k Lay Z Spa Hydrojet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmGcZmdpd5urgpY I hope this helps
@antoniswiatkowski38572 жыл бұрын
gdzie można kupić ten pojemnik na wodę
@kelvinsgadgets25572 жыл бұрын
www.kelvinsgadgets.co.uk (or google Kelvins gadgets) www.amazon.co.uk/s?me=A33SZE4UXL0GJH&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P ebay.co.uk/str/kelvinsgadgets
@kiradesotel73872 жыл бұрын
Will that work if your pump won’t turn on?
@kelvinsgadgets25572 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question. I’ve had quite a few customers report that an overnight soak using their EASY-SCALE has shifted limescale. That said, it doesn’t give the kiss of life to a mechanical issue such as a failed impeller. I hope that answers your question
@allenkrug11886 ай бұрын
My hot tub isn't heating properly e2 code a few hr won't get over 90
@kelvinsgadgets25576 ай бұрын
Dependant on which model of pump you have, you’ll either have 2 or 4 heating elements, which you can easily and quickly independently test with an EASY-SCALE kit
@jonathanmccartney24972 жыл бұрын
Is there a link to order?
@kelvinsgadgets25572 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thanks for your interest. There are 3 ways to buy; Through our website, Amazon or eBay. Here are the links www.kelvinsgadgets.co.uk (or google Kelvins gadgets) www.amazon.co.uk/s?me=A33SZE4UXL0GJH&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P ebay.co.uk/str/kelvinsgadgets
@davidjosset2703 Жыл бұрын
J’ai le code erreur e04 tu c’est d’où ça vien?
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Voici un lien vers la page d’aide Bestway pour les codes d’erreur. Bonne chance support.bestwayaftersales.co.uk/faq/get-help-with-your-lay-z-spa-pump/#:~:text=E04,-%E2%86%90%20swipe%20%E2%86%92&text=The%20pump%20unit%20has%20overheated,cool%20down%20before%20connecting%20again.
@michelletucker2269 Жыл бұрын
I’m still getting the E02 error code 😩 whilst trying to run to descale 😩
@kelvinsgadgets2557 Жыл бұрын
Hi Michelle. Sorry to hear you are still having trouble. Quite a few of our customers have shifted limescale by doing a ‘static descale’ - leave the EASY-SCALE attached and let the descaling solution work its magic overnight. Try the pump again the next morning. It doesn’t work in all cases but certainly worth a try If that‘s not worked, the chances are it’ll probably be a failed impeller or flow sensor. Don’t fret, both are cheap and fairly easy to replace and certainly not as daunting to replace as you may think. Your EASY-SCALE kit is a very handy tool for testing your pump during and after repairs, aswell as it’s main purpose, a descaling device. You'll find a link to impellers for Lay Z Spa pumps on our accessories page. Here’s a link to a handy checklist for E02 errors www.kelvinsgadgets.co.uk/faqs-links-and-useful-info
@michelletucker2269 Жыл бұрын
@@kelvinsgadgets2557 thank you very much I shall take your advice going forward and give it a go 😊
@neilp70246 ай бұрын
just seen this video i have an error messahe e02 come on,i have chnged pump and madesure the impeller is good to go,i have tested it and the impellor spins fine but after a couple of seconds the message comes back ...any ideas what else it could be? I tried the impellor out without adding to the pool i doubt it makes any difference ?
@kelvinsgadgets25576 ай бұрын
We have replaced ‘a few’ impellers that ‘look ok’. Despite them appearing fine, they get ingressed with water and become imbalanced. My advice would be to troubleshoot and explore other areas (flow sensor etc) and buy an impeller anyway. For what they cost, atleast you can rule this out. Remember to replace the rubber ends.
@neilp70246 ай бұрын
@@kelvinsgadgets2557 Hi kelvin thanks for the reply...will have another look at it.